Today's Daf Yomi
May 22, 2015 | ד׳ בסיון תשע״ה
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This month's learning is sponsored by Leah Goldford in loving memory of her grandmothers, Tzipporah bat Yechezkiel, Rivka Yoda Bat Dovide Tzvi, Bracha Bayla bat Beryl, her father-in-law, Chaim Gershon ben Tzvi Aryeh, her mother, Devorah Rivkah bat Tuvia Hacohen, her cousins, Avrum Baer ben Mordechai, and Sharon bat Yaakov.
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Masechet Ketubot is sponsored by Erica and Rob Schwartz in honor of the 50th wedding anniversary of Erica's parents Sheira and Steve Schacter.
Ketubot 109
תשב עד שתלבין ראשה אדמון אומר יכולה היא שתאמר אילו אני פסקתי לעצמי אשב עד שתלבין ראשי עכשיו שאבא פסק מה אני יכולה לעשות או כנוס או פטור אמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון
the betrothed woman can be left to sit unwed in her father’s house until her head turns white. If the groom does not wish to marry without a dowry he cannot be forced to do so, as the father failed to fulfill his promise. Admon says that she can say: Had I apportioned the money myself and broken my promise, I would agree to sit until my head turns white. However, now that my father was the one who apportioned the dowry, what can I do? Either marry me or release me by a bill of divorce. Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon.
גמ׳ מתניתין דלא כי האי תנא דתניא אמר רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה לא נחלקו אדמון וחכמים על הפוסק מעות לחתנו ופשט לו את הרגל שיכולה היא שתאמר אבא פסק עלי מה אני יכולה לעשות
GEMARA: The mishna is not in accordance with the opinion of this tanna, as it is taught in the Tosefta (13:1) that Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, said: Admon and the Rabbis did not disagree with regard to one who promises and apportions money for his son-in-law as a dowry and subsequently went bankrupt, that the betrothed woman can say: My father apportioned money for me; what can I do?
על מה נחלקו על שפסקה היא על עצמה שחכמים אומרים תשב עד שתלבין ראשה אדמון אומר יכולה היא שתאמר כסבורה אני שאבא נותן עלי ועכשיו שאין אבא נותן עלי מה אני יכולה לעשות או כנוס או פטור אמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון
With regard to what did they disagree? It is with regard to a case where she apportioned money for herself, as the Rabbis say: Let her sit until her head turns white, as she did not fulfill her promise. However, Admon says that she can say: I thought that my father would give the money for me, and now that my father is not giving the money for me, what can I do? Either marry me or release me. And it is with regard to this case that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, as the betrothed woman has no money of her own, and she was clearly relying on her father to provide the dowry.
תנא במה דברים אמורים בגדולה אבל בקטנה כופין כופין למאן אילימא לאב איפכא מיבעי ליה אלא אמר רבא כופין לבעל ליתן גט
§ It is taught: In what case is this statement said? It is said in the case of an adult woman. However, with regard to a minor girl, the court compels payment. The Gemara asks: Whom do they compel? If we say that they coerce the father to pay, the tanna should have stated the opposite. It is more reasonable to suggest that the father is compelled to pay when an adult woman promises the money, as the promises of an adult are legally valid, whereas a minor is not legally competent and therefore her promises are of no consequence. Rather, Rava said: In the case of a minor, the court compels the groom either to give her a bill of divorce or to marry her.
אמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אמר ליה רבא לרב נחמן אפילו בברייתא אמר ליה מי קאמרינן במשנה בכל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל קאמרינן
§ Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar said in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion. Rava said to Rav Naḥman: Does this halakhic principle apply even when the debate between Admon and the Rabbis is recorded in a baraita? Rav Naḥman said to him: Did we say: Anywhere it is recorded in the Mishna? We said: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said, which means even in a baraita.
אמר רבי זירא אמר רבה בר ירמיה שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כיוצא בו מאי קאמר
Rabbi Zeira said that Rabba bar Yirmeya said: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai (see 107b); however, with regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Gamliel. The Gemara asks: What is he saying? What does this ruling mean?
אילימא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו ושבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כמותו ולא כיוצא בו והאמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו
If we say that this is what he is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, and with regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not in accordance with his opinion and also not in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, but didn’t Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar say in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion.
אלא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כיוצא בו הא כמותו הלכה בכולהו
Rather, this is what Rabbi Zeira is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and is also in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai. With regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not only in accordance with the ruling of Rabban Gamliel, who ruled similarly to Admon in three of these cases. Rather, the halakha is in accordance with Admon’s ruling in all seven cases.
והאמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אמר אין לא אמר לא
The Gemara questions this interpretation: Didn’t Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar say in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion? It may be inferred from here that in those cases concerning which Rabban Gamliel said his statement, yes, the halakha is in accordance with Admon’s ruling, but in those cases where Rabban Gamliel did not say his statement, no, the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Admon.
אלא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון יש מהן שהלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו ויש מהן שאין הלכה כמותו אלא כיוצא בו
Rather, this is what Rabbi Zeira is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and is also in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him. With regard to the seven statements that Admon said, there are among these rulings those in which the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, and there are among these rulings those in which the halakha is not in accordance with his opinion but in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him.
בכל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אינך לא
The Gemara explains the above statement. In other words, anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion, whereas in those other cases, where Rabban Gamliel remained silent, indicating that he did not agree with him, the halakha is not in accordance with Admon.
מתני׳ העורר על השדה והוא חתום עליה בעד אדמון אומר השני נוח לי והראשון קשה הימנו
MISHNA: With regard to one who contests ownership of a field, claiming that a field under the control of someone else actually belongs to him, and the claimant himself is signed as a witness on the bill of sale to that other person, Admon says: His signature does not disprove his claim of ownership of the property, as it is possible that the claimant said to himself: The second person is easier for me, as I can reason with him, but the first owner, who sold the field to the current holder, is more difficult to deal with than him. The claimant might have been afraid to protest against the first one, who is perhaps violent, and therefore he was even willing to sign as a witness to transfer the field to the control of someone more amenable to his ensuing protest.
וחכמים אומרים איבד את זכותו עשאה סימן לאחר איבד את זכותו
And the Rabbis say: He has lost his right to contest ownership, as he signed a bill of sale that states that the field belongs to the present holder. If he established that field as a marker for another field, everyone agrees that he has lost his right. In other words, if the claimant wrote a document concerning another field and in that document he listed the first field as a boundary marker and described it as belonging to someone else, even Admon concedes that he has lost his right, as he had no reason to say it belonged to someone else other than his belief this was in fact the case.
גמ׳ אמר אביי לא שנו אלא עד אבל דיין לא איבד את זכותו דתני רבי חייא אין העדים חותמין על השטר אלא אם כן קראוהו
GEMARA: Abaye said: They taught this dispute only with regard to a witness who signed on a bill of sale. However, a judge who was contesting the ownership of a field and at the same time sat on a court that certified the bill of sale for that very tract of land has not lost his right. This is as Rabbi Ḥiyya taught: Witnesses do not sign a document unless they have read it, which means that a witness cannot reasonably claim that he is certifying only part of document; it is assumed that he read and is aware of everything it contains.
אבל הדיינין חותמים אף על פי שלא קראוהו
However, judges do sign a document even though they have not read it, as they are merely certifying the signatures without relating to the content of the document at all.
עשאה סימן לאחר אמר אביי לא שנו אלא לאחר אבל לעצמו לא איבד את זכותו
§ The mishna taught that if someone established a field as a marker for another field, everyone agrees that he has lost his right to contest its ownership. Abaye said: They taught this only in a case where he stated this in a document unrelated to the field in question, which was written for another person. However, if he established it as a marker for himself, when he was buying a different field owned by the person who is in possession of the contested field, he has not lost his right.
דאמר אי דלא עבדי ליה הכי לא הוה מזבין לה ניהלי מאי אית לך למימר איבעי לי למימסר מודעא חברך חברא אית ליה וחברא דחברך חברא אית ליה
The reason is that the claimant can say: Had I not done this act of writing that the field belongs to him, he would not have sold me this other field. What have you to say against this argument? Will you say that I should have put out a notice and declared in the presence of witnesses that I am forced to write this way in the contract? I was concerned about doing this, as your friend has a friend and your friend’s friend has a friend. In other words, it is hard to keep an announcement of this kind secret, and ultimately my notice would have become public knowledge and would have reached the owner of the field himself, and he would have refused to sell me the other tract of land.
ההוא דעשאה סימן לאחר ערער ושכיב ואוקים אפוטרופא אתא אפוטרופוס לקמיה דאביי אמר ליה עשאה סימן לאחר איבד את זכותו
§ The Gemara relates: There was a certain individual who established a field as a marker for another field, with ownership of the first field ascribed to someone else. Later he contested the ownership of the first field, claiming it as his own, and he subsequently died. And prior to his death he had appointed a steward to manage the properties of his orphans. The steward came before Abaye. Abaye said to him: The deceased established the field as a marker for another, and therefore he has lost his right to contest ownership of the land.
אמר אי הוה אבוהון דיתמי קיים הוה טעין ואמר תלם אחד עשיתי לך אמר ליה שפיר קאמרת דאמר רבי יוחנן אם טען ואמר תלם אחד עשיתי לך נאמן זיל הב ליה מיהת תלם אחד
The steward said to Abaye: If the father of these orphans were alive he would have claimed and said: I established one furrow for you. In other words, the marker I established by means of this field was not meant as a reference to the entire field but only to a furrow at the edge of the field. Abaye said to him: You have spoken well, as Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If he claimed and said: I established one furrow for you, he is deemed credible. Go and give him one furrow in any event, as you freely admit that at least one furrow belongs to the one currently in control of the property.
הוה עלה ריכבא דדיקלי אמר ליה אי הוה אבוהון דיתמי קיים הוה טעין ואמר חזרתי ולקחתי ממנו אמר ליה שפיר קאמרת דאמר רבי יוחנן אם טען ואמר חזרתי ולקחתיו ממנו נאמן אמר אביי האי מאן דמוקים אפוטרופא נוקים כי האי דידע לאפוכי בזכותא דיתמי
On that particular furrow there was a row of palm trees, which the steward did not want to lose. He said to Abaye: If the father of these orphans were alive he would have claimed and said: I did in fact sell the field to him, but I went back and bought it from him sometime later. Abaye said to him: You have spoken well, as Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If he claimed and said: I went back and bought it from him, he is deemed credible. After the steward won his suit in court, Abaye said: One who wants to appoint a steward should appoint someone like this person, who knows how to look out for the rights of the orphans and how to argue on their behalf.
מתני׳ מי שהלך למדינת הים ואבדה דרך שדהו אדמון אומר ילך לו בקצרה וחכמים אומרים יקנה לו דרך במאה מנה או יפרח באויר
MISHNA: With regard to one who went overseas and in the meantime the path leading to his field was lost, e.g., the path he used to reach his land was taken over by the owner of the field through which it passed, so that its exact position is now unknown, Admon says: Let him go to his field by the shortest possible route. And the Rabbis say: Let him buy himself a path from an owner of a neighboring field at whatever price he can, even if it is one hundred dinars [maneh], or let him fly through the air.
גמ׳ מאי טעמא דרבנן שפיר קאמר אדמון אמר רב יהודה אמר רב כגון שהקיפוה ארבעה בני אדם מארבע רוחותיה אי הכי מאי טעמא דאדמון
GEMARA: The Gemara asks: What is the reason for the opinion of the Rabbis that he is not automatically entitled to a path leading to his field? After all, Admon speaks well, as it was established that he owned a path beforehand. Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: The mishna is dealing with a case where the field was surrounded on four sides by the property of four different people. Each of the four properties adjoining his field belonged to a different person, each of whom denied that his path cut through his land. Since he is unable to prove his claim with regard to each one of them, he has no choice but to buy himself a new path. The Gemara asks: If so, what is the reason for the opinion of Admon?
אמר רבא בארבעה דאתו מכח ארבעה וארבעה דאתו מכח חד כולי עלמא לא פליגי דמצי מדחי ליה כי פליגי בחד דאתי מכח ארבעה
Rava said: In a case where there are four owners of fields who come by virtue of four previous owners, and in a case where there are four owners who come by virtue of one previous owner of all four properties, everyone agrees that they may put off the claims of the owner of the field in the middle, as each can say: Your path did not cut through my property. When they disagree is in a case where there is one current owner of four fields who comes by virtue of four previous owners.
אדמון סבר מכל מקום דרכא אית לי גבך ורבנן סברי אי שתקת שתקת ואי לא מהדרנא שטרא למרייהו ולא מצית לאשתעויי דינא בהדייהו
Rava elaborates: Admon holds that the claimant can say to the landowner: In any case, I have a path through your property. Although he cannot prove where the path ran, it was certainly within the perimeter of the landowner’s property that borders his own tract of land, and for this reason he selects the shortest route. And the Rabbis hold that the landowner can say to the man: If you will stay silent, then stay silent and we will compromise; and if not, I will return the document of each field to its previous owner and you will not be able to negotiate with them, as you do not know through which field your path passed.
ההוא דאמר להו דיקלא לברת אזול יתמי פלוג לנכסי לא יהבו לה דיקלא סבר רב יוסף למימר היינו מתניתין
§ The Gemara relates: There was a certain man who said to his heirs, in his will: I am leaving a palm tree for my daughter. The orphans went and divided up the property and they did not give the daughter a palm tree at all. Rav Yosef thought to say that this is exactly like the case of the mishna, as each heir can say to her: The tree designated for you is not in my portion but in that of a different heir.
אמר ליה אביי מי דמי התם כל חד וחד מצי מדחי ליה הכא דיקלא גבייהו הוא מאי תקנתייהו ליתבו לה דיקלא וליהדרו וליפלגו מרישא
Abaye said to him: Are the cases comparable? There, each and every one of the fields’ owners can put him off, as in fact the path might not have passed through his property, whereas here, the palm tree is in their possession, i.e., they all share the obligation to give her a tree, and each is illegally holding on to a share of it. Abaye adds: What is their remedy? Let them give her a palm tree and go back and divide the inherited property once again from the outset. Since the palm tree will be taken from one of the shares, they must redistribute the estate afresh.
ההוא דאמר להו דיקלא לברת שכיב ושביק תרי פלגי דדיקלא
The Gemara relates a similar story: There was a certain man who said to his heirs, in his will: I am leaving a palm tree for my daughter. He died and left behind two halves of palm trees, as there had been two trees he had shared with different business partners. The heirs wished to give the girl these two halves, despite the fact that tending to them would involve considerably more trouble than taking care of a single tree.
יתיב רב אשי וקא קשיא ליה מי קרו אינשי לתרי פלגי דיקלי דיקלא או לא אמר ליה רב מרדכי לרב אשי הכי אמר אבימי מהגרוניא משמיה דרבא קרו אינשי לתרי פלגי דיקלי דיקלא
Rav Ashi sat and posed a difficulty to the proposal of the heirs. Do people refer to two halves of a palm tree as a whole palm tree or not? If the statement of the dying father can reasonably be interpreted as referring to these two halves she is at a disadvantage, as the burden of proof rests upon the claimant. Alternatively, if this is an unreasonable explanation of his wishes, they must give her a whole tree. Which alternative is correct? Rav Mordekhai said to Rav Ashi: Avimi of Hagronya said as follows in the name of Rava: People do in fact refer to two halves of a palm tree as a whole palm tree. Consequently, the heirs may fulfill their father’s dying wish by giving the girl the two halves they inherited.
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This month's learning is sponsored by Leah Goldford in loving memory of her grandmothers, Tzipporah bat Yechezkiel, Rivka Yoda Bat Dovide Tzvi, Bracha Bayla bat Beryl, her father-in-law, Chaim Gershon ben Tzvi Aryeh, her mother, Devorah Rivkah bat Tuvia Hacohen, her cousins, Avrum Baer ben Mordechai, and Sharon bat Yaakov.
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Masechet Ketubot is sponsored by Erica and Rob Schwartz in honor of the 50th wedding anniversary of Erica's parents Sheira and Steve Schacter.
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Ketubot 109
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תשב עד שתלבין ראשה אדמון אומר יכולה היא שתאמר אילו אני פסקתי לעצמי אשב עד שתלבין ראשי עכשיו שאבא פסק מה אני יכולה לעשות או כנוס או פטור אמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון
the betrothed woman can be left to sit unwed in her father’s house until her head turns white. If the groom does not wish to marry without a dowry he cannot be forced to do so, as the father failed to fulfill his promise. Admon says that she can say: Had I apportioned the money myself and broken my promise, I would agree to sit until my head turns white. However, now that my father was the one who apportioned the dowry, what can I do? Either marry me or release me by a bill of divorce. Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon.
גמ׳ מתניתין דלא כי האי תנא דתניא אמר רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה לא נחלקו אדמון וחכמים על הפוסק מעות לחתנו ופשט לו את הרגל שיכולה היא שתאמר אבא פסק עלי מה אני יכולה לעשות
GEMARA: The mishna is not in accordance with the opinion of this tanna, as it is taught in the Tosefta (13:1) that Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, said: Admon and the Rabbis did not disagree with regard to one who promises and apportions money for his son-in-law as a dowry and subsequently went bankrupt, that the betrothed woman can say: My father apportioned money for me; what can I do?
על מה נחלקו על שפסקה היא על עצמה שחכמים אומרים תשב עד שתלבין ראשה אדמון אומר יכולה היא שתאמר כסבורה אני שאבא נותן עלי ועכשיו שאין אבא נותן עלי מה אני יכולה לעשות או כנוס או פטור אמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון
With regard to what did they disagree? It is with regard to a case where she apportioned money for herself, as the Rabbis say: Let her sit until her head turns white, as she did not fulfill her promise. However, Admon says that she can say: I thought that my father would give the money for me, and now that my father is not giving the money for me, what can I do? Either marry me or release me. And it is with regard to this case that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, as the betrothed woman has no money of her own, and she was clearly relying on her father to provide the dowry.
תנא במה דברים אמורים בגדולה אבל בקטנה כופין כופין למאן אילימא לאב איפכא מיבעי ליה אלא אמר רבא כופין לבעל ליתן גט
§ It is taught: In what case is this statement said? It is said in the case of an adult woman. However, with regard to a minor girl, the court compels payment. The Gemara asks: Whom do they compel? If we say that they coerce the father to pay, the tanna should have stated the opposite. It is more reasonable to suggest that the father is compelled to pay when an adult woman promises the money, as the promises of an adult are legally valid, whereas a minor is not legally competent and therefore her promises are of no consequence. Rather, Rava said: In the case of a minor, the court compels the groom either to give her a bill of divorce or to marry her.
אמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אמר ליה רבא לרב נחמן אפילו בברייתא אמר ליה מי קאמרינן במשנה בכל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל קאמרינן
§ Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar said in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion. Rava said to Rav Naḥman: Does this halakhic principle apply even when the debate between Admon and the Rabbis is recorded in a baraita? Rav Naḥman said to him: Did we say: Anywhere it is recorded in the Mishna? We said: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said, which means even in a baraita.
אמר רבי זירא אמר רבה בר ירמיה שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כיוצא בו מאי קאמר
Rabbi Zeira said that Rabba bar Yirmeya said: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai (see 107b); however, with regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Gamliel. The Gemara asks: What is he saying? What does this ruling mean?
אילימא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו ושבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כמותו ולא כיוצא בו והאמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו
If we say that this is what he is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, and with regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not in accordance with his opinion and also not in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, but didn’t Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar say in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion.
אלא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון אין הלכה כיוצא בו הא כמותו הלכה בכולהו
Rather, this is what Rabbi Zeira is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and is also in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, i.e., Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai. With regard to the seven statements that Admon said, the halakha is not only in accordance with the ruling of Rabban Gamliel, who ruled similarly to Admon in three of these cases. Rather, the halakha is in accordance with Admon’s ruling in all seven cases.
והאמר רבי יצחק בן אלעזר משמיה דחזקיה כל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אמר אין לא אמר לא
The Gemara questions this interpretation: Didn’t Rabbi Yitzḥak ben Elazar say in the name of Ḥizkiyya: Anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion? It may be inferred from here that in those cases concerning which Rabban Gamliel said his statement, yes, the halakha is in accordance with Admon’s ruling, but in those cases where Rabban Gamliel did not say his statement, no, the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Admon.
אלא הכי קאמר שני דברים שאמר חנן הלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו שבעה דברים שאמר אדמון יש מהן שהלכה כמותו וכיוצא בו ויש מהן שאין הלכה כמותו אלא כיוצא בו
Rather, this is what Rabbi Zeira is saying: With regard to the two statements that Ḥanan said, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and is also in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him. With regard to the seven statements that Admon said, there are among these rulings those in which the halakha is in accordance with his opinion and in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him, and there are among these rulings those in which the halakha is not in accordance with his opinion but in accordance with he who ruled similarly to him.
בכל מקום שאמר רבן גמליאל רואה אני את דברי אדמון הלכה כמותו אינך לא
The Gemara explains the above statement. In other words, anywhere it is recorded that Rabban Gamliel said: I see as correct the statement of Admon, the halakha is in accordance with his opinion, whereas in those other cases, where Rabban Gamliel remained silent, indicating that he did not agree with him, the halakha is not in accordance with Admon.
מתני׳ העורר על השדה והוא חתום עליה בעד אדמון אומר השני נוח לי והראשון קשה הימנו
MISHNA: With regard to one who contests ownership of a field, claiming that a field under the control of someone else actually belongs to him, and the claimant himself is signed as a witness on the bill of sale to that other person, Admon says: His signature does not disprove his claim of ownership of the property, as it is possible that the claimant said to himself: The second person is easier for me, as I can reason with him, but the first owner, who sold the field to the current holder, is more difficult to deal with than him. The claimant might have been afraid to protest against the first one, who is perhaps violent, and therefore he was even willing to sign as a witness to transfer the field to the control of someone more amenable to his ensuing protest.
וחכמים אומרים איבד את זכותו עשאה סימן לאחר איבד את זכותו
And the Rabbis say: He has lost his right to contest ownership, as he signed a bill of sale that states that the field belongs to the present holder. If he established that field as a marker for another field, everyone agrees that he has lost his right. In other words, if the claimant wrote a document concerning another field and in that document he listed the first field as a boundary marker and described it as belonging to someone else, even Admon concedes that he has lost his right, as he had no reason to say it belonged to someone else other than his belief this was in fact the case.
גמ׳ אמר אביי לא שנו אלא עד אבל דיין לא איבד את זכותו דתני רבי חייא אין העדים חותמין על השטר אלא אם כן קראוהו
GEMARA: Abaye said: They taught this dispute only with regard to a witness who signed on a bill of sale. However, a judge who was contesting the ownership of a field and at the same time sat on a court that certified the bill of sale for that very tract of land has not lost his right. This is as Rabbi Ḥiyya taught: Witnesses do not sign a document unless they have read it, which means that a witness cannot reasonably claim that he is certifying only part of document; it is assumed that he read and is aware of everything it contains.
אבל הדיינין חותמים אף על פי שלא קראוהו
However, judges do sign a document even though they have not read it, as they are merely certifying the signatures without relating to the content of the document at all.
עשאה סימן לאחר אמר אביי לא שנו אלא לאחר אבל לעצמו לא איבד את זכותו
§ The mishna taught that if someone established a field as a marker for another field, everyone agrees that he has lost his right to contest its ownership. Abaye said: They taught this only in a case where he stated this in a document unrelated to the field in question, which was written for another person. However, if he established it as a marker for himself, when he was buying a different field owned by the person who is in possession of the contested field, he has not lost his right.
דאמר אי דלא עבדי ליה הכי לא הוה מזבין לה ניהלי מאי אית לך למימר איבעי לי למימסר מודעא חברך חברא אית ליה וחברא דחברך חברא אית ליה
The reason is that the claimant can say: Had I not done this act of writing that the field belongs to him, he would not have sold me this other field. What have you to say against this argument? Will you say that I should have put out a notice and declared in the presence of witnesses that I am forced to write this way in the contract? I was concerned about doing this, as your friend has a friend and your friend’s friend has a friend. In other words, it is hard to keep an announcement of this kind secret, and ultimately my notice would have become public knowledge and would have reached the owner of the field himself, and he would have refused to sell me the other tract of land.
ההוא דעשאה סימן לאחר ערער ושכיב ואוקים אפוטרופא אתא אפוטרופוס לקמיה דאביי אמר ליה עשאה סימן לאחר איבד את זכותו
§ The Gemara relates: There was a certain individual who established a field as a marker for another field, with ownership of the first field ascribed to someone else. Later he contested the ownership of the first field, claiming it as his own, and he subsequently died. And prior to his death he had appointed a steward to manage the properties of his orphans. The steward came before Abaye. Abaye said to him: The deceased established the field as a marker for another, and therefore he has lost his right to contest ownership of the land.
אמר אי הוה אבוהון דיתמי קיים הוה טעין ואמר תלם אחד עשיתי לך אמר ליה שפיר קאמרת דאמר רבי יוחנן אם טען ואמר תלם אחד עשיתי לך נאמן זיל הב ליה מיהת תלם אחד
The steward said to Abaye: If the father of these orphans were alive he would have claimed and said: I established one furrow for you. In other words, the marker I established by means of this field was not meant as a reference to the entire field but only to a furrow at the edge of the field. Abaye said to him: You have spoken well, as Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If he claimed and said: I established one furrow for you, he is deemed credible. Go and give him one furrow in any event, as you freely admit that at least one furrow belongs to the one currently in control of the property.
הוה עלה ריכבא דדיקלי אמר ליה אי הוה אבוהון דיתמי קיים הוה טעין ואמר חזרתי ולקחתי ממנו אמר ליה שפיר קאמרת דאמר רבי יוחנן אם טען ואמר חזרתי ולקחתיו ממנו נאמן אמר אביי האי מאן דמוקים אפוטרופא נוקים כי האי דידע לאפוכי בזכותא דיתמי
On that particular furrow there was a row of palm trees, which the steward did not want to lose. He said to Abaye: If the father of these orphans were alive he would have claimed and said: I did in fact sell the field to him, but I went back and bought it from him sometime later. Abaye said to him: You have spoken well, as Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If he claimed and said: I went back and bought it from him, he is deemed credible. After the steward won his suit in court, Abaye said: One who wants to appoint a steward should appoint someone like this person, who knows how to look out for the rights of the orphans and how to argue on their behalf.
מתני׳ מי שהלך למדינת הים ואבדה דרך שדהו אדמון אומר ילך לו בקצרה וחכמים אומרים יקנה לו דרך במאה מנה או יפרח באויר
MISHNA: With regard to one who went overseas and in the meantime the path leading to his field was lost, e.g., the path he used to reach his land was taken over by the owner of the field through which it passed, so that its exact position is now unknown, Admon says: Let him go to his field by the shortest possible route. And the Rabbis say: Let him buy himself a path from an owner of a neighboring field at whatever price he can, even if it is one hundred dinars [maneh], or let him fly through the air.
גמ׳ מאי טעמא דרבנן שפיר קאמר אדמון אמר רב יהודה אמר רב כגון שהקיפוה ארבעה בני אדם מארבע רוחותיה אי הכי מאי טעמא דאדמון
GEMARA: The Gemara asks: What is the reason for the opinion of the Rabbis that he is not automatically entitled to a path leading to his field? After all, Admon speaks well, as it was established that he owned a path beforehand. Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: The mishna is dealing with a case where the field was surrounded on four sides by the property of four different people. Each of the four properties adjoining his field belonged to a different person, each of whom denied that his path cut through his land. Since he is unable to prove his claim with regard to each one of them, he has no choice but to buy himself a new path. The Gemara asks: If so, what is the reason for the opinion of Admon?
אמר רבא בארבעה דאתו מכח ארבעה וארבעה דאתו מכח חד כולי עלמא לא פליגי דמצי מדחי ליה כי פליגי בחד דאתי מכח ארבעה
Rava said: In a case where there are four owners of fields who come by virtue of four previous owners, and in a case where there are four owners who come by virtue of one previous owner of all four properties, everyone agrees that they may put off the claims of the owner of the field in the middle, as each can say: Your path did not cut through my property. When they disagree is in a case where there is one current owner of four fields who comes by virtue of four previous owners.
אדמון סבר מכל מקום דרכא אית לי גבך ורבנן סברי אי שתקת שתקת ואי לא מהדרנא שטרא למרייהו ולא מצית לאשתעויי דינא בהדייהו
Rava elaborates: Admon holds that the claimant can say to the landowner: In any case, I have a path through your property. Although he cannot prove where the path ran, it was certainly within the perimeter of the landowner’s property that borders his own tract of land, and for this reason he selects the shortest route. And the Rabbis hold that the landowner can say to the man: If you will stay silent, then stay silent and we will compromise; and if not, I will return the document of each field to its previous owner and you will not be able to negotiate with them, as you do not know through which field your path passed.
ההוא דאמר להו דיקלא לברת אזול יתמי פלוג לנכסי לא יהבו לה דיקלא סבר רב יוסף למימר היינו מתניתין
§ The Gemara relates: There was a certain man who said to his heirs, in his will: I am leaving a palm tree for my daughter. The orphans went and divided up the property and they did not give the daughter a palm tree at all. Rav Yosef thought to say that this is exactly like the case of the mishna, as each heir can say to her: The tree designated for you is not in my portion but in that of a different heir.
אמר ליה אביי מי דמי התם כל חד וחד מצי מדחי ליה הכא דיקלא גבייהו הוא מאי תקנתייהו ליתבו לה דיקלא וליהדרו וליפלגו מרישא
Abaye said to him: Are the cases comparable? There, each and every one of the fields’ owners can put him off, as in fact the path might not have passed through his property, whereas here, the palm tree is in their possession, i.e., they all share the obligation to give her a tree, and each is illegally holding on to a share of it. Abaye adds: What is their remedy? Let them give her a palm tree and go back and divide the inherited property once again from the outset. Since the palm tree will be taken from one of the shares, they must redistribute the estate afresh.
ההוא דאמר להו דיקלא לברת שכיב ושביק תרי פלגי דדיקלא
The Gemara relates a similar story: There was a certain man who said to his heirs, in his will: I am leaving a palm tree for my daughter. He died and left behind two halves of palm trees, as there had been two trees he had shared with different business partners. The heirs wished to give the girl these two halves, despite the fact that tending to them would involve considerably more trouble than taking care of a single tree.
יתיב רב אשי וקא קשיא ליה מי קרו אינשי לתרי פלגי דיקלי דיקלא או לא אמר ליה רב מרדכי לרב אשי הכי אמר אבימי מהגרוניא משמיה דרבא קרו אינשי לתרי פלגי דיקלי דיקלא
Rav Ashi sat and posed a difficulty to the proposal of the heirs. Do people refer to two halves of a palm tree as a whole palm tree or not? If the statement of the dying father can reasonably be interpreted as referring to these two halves she is at a disadvantage, as the burden of proof rests upon the claimant. Alternatively, if this is an unreasonable explanation of his wishes, they must give her a whole tree. Which alternative is correct? Rav Mordekhai said to Rav Ashi: Avimi of Hagronya said as follows in the name of Rava: People do in fact refer to two halves of a palm tree as a whole palm tree. Consequently, the heirs may fulfill their father’s dying wish by giving the girl the two halves they inherited.