Search

Bava Batra 58

Want to dedicate learning? Get started here:

podcast placeholder

0:00
0:00




Summary

Rabbi Bena’a measured burial caves to mark the locations of the graves for reasons of ritual purity. What happened when he reached Avraham’s and Adam’s graves? What was he allowed to see and what was he not allowed to see? A story is told of an amgosh (a Persian priest or magician) who entered the graves of others to take things or remove bodies from the caves. In a separate story about Rabbi Bena’a, he was imprisoned by non-Jewish authorities but later released due to his great intelligence and appointed as a judge. As a judge, he critiqued some signs hung at the entrance to their city, and they incorporated his edits into the signs.

The Mishna discusses various items that may or may not create a chazaka (presumptive right) depending on various factors, including sizes – such as a gutter, the spout of a gutter, a ladder, and windows.

Today’s daily daf tools:

Bava Batra 58

לִמְדוּרָה, וּקְדֵרוֹת מַקִּיפוֹת אוֹתָהּ.

to a bonfire, where the fire is in the center and pots surround it. Similarly, the table of an ignoramus is arranged with the food in the center and is surrounded by plates.

מִטָּה שֶׁל תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים – כֵּיצַד? כֹּל שֶׁאֵין תַּחְתֶּיהָ אֶלָּא סַנְדָּלִין בִּימוֹת הַחַמָּה, וּמִנְעָלִין בִּימוֹת הַגְּשָׁמִים. וְשֶׁל עַם הָאָרֶץ – דּוֹמָה לְאוֹצָר בָּלוּס.

Rabbi Yoḥanan asked: How should the bed of Torah scholars be kept? He replied: It is acceptable as long as there is nothing except sandals beneath it during the summer, and shoes beneath it during the rainy season, i.e., winter. And the bed of an ignoramus is similar to a cluttered [balus] storehouse, as he keeps a wide array of items beneath it.

רַבִּי בְּנָאָה הֲוָה קָא מְצַיֵּין מְעָרָתָא. כִּי מְטָא לִמְעָרְתָּא דְאַבְרָהָם, אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ לֶאֱלִיעֶזֶר עֶבֶד אַבְרָהָם דְּקָאֵי קַמֵּי בָּבָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי קָא עָבֵיד אַבְרָהָם? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: גָּאנֵי בְּכַנְפַהּ דְּשָׂרָה, וְקָא מְעַיְּינָא לֵיהּ בְּרֵישֵׁיהּ.

§ Having mentioned Rabbi Bena’a, the Gemara relates an incident in which he was involved. Rabbi Bena’a was marking burial caves for the purpose of helping to prevent the contracting of ritual impurity. When he arrived at the cave of Abraham, i.e., the Cave of Machpelah, he encountered Eliezer, the servant of Abraham, who was standing before the entrance. Rabbi Bena’a said to him: What is Abraham doing at this moment? Eliezer said to him: He is lying in the arms of Sarah, and she is examining his head.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ, זִיל אֵימָא לֵיהּ: בְּנָאָה קָאֵי אַבָּבָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֵיעוּל – מִידָּע יְדִיעַ דְּיֵצֶר בְּהַאי עָלְמָא לֵיכָּא. עָיֵיל, עַיֵּין וּנְפַק.

Rabbi Bena’a said to him: Go tell him that Bena’a is standing at the entrance, so that he should assume an appropriate position to receive a visitor. Eliezer said to him: Let him, i.e., Rabbi Bena’a, enter, since it is known that there is no evil inclination in this higher world, so it is not inappropriate for Rabbi Bena’a to see Abraham and Sarah in this position. He entered, examined the cave in order to measure it, and exited.

כִּי מְטָא לִמְעָרְתָּא דְּאָדָם הָרִאשׁוֹן, יָצְתָה בַּת קוֹל וְאָמְרָה: ״נִסְתַּכַּלְתָּ בִּדְמוּת דְּיוֹקְנִי, בִּדְיוֹקְנִי עַצְמָהּ אַל תִּסְתַּכֵּל״. ״הָא בָּעֵינָא לְצַיּוֹנֵי מְעָרְתָּא!״ ״כְּמִדַּת הַחִיצוֹנָה כָּךְ מִדַּת הַפְּנִימִית. וּלְמַאן דְּאָמַר שְׁנֵי בָתִּים זוֹ לְמַעְלָה מִזּוֹ – כְּמִדַּת עֶלְיוֹנָה כָּךְ מִדַּת הַתַּחְתּוֹנָה״.

When he arrived at the cave of Adam the first man, who is buried in the same area, a Divine Voice emerged and said: You gazed upon the likeness of My image, i.e., Abraham, who is similar to the image of Adam the first man. Do not gaze upon My image itself, i.e., Adam the first man, about whom the verse states that he was formed in the image of God (see Genesis 1:27). Rabbi Bena’a said: But I need to mark the cave. The voice said to him: As the measurements of the dimensions of the outer cave where Abraham is buried, so are the measurements of the dimensions of the inner cave, where Adam is buried. The Gemara notes: And according to the one who says that the Cave of Machpelah consists of two chambers, this one above that one, not two adjacent chambers, the voice said: As the measurements of the dimensions of the upper cave where Abraham is buried, so are the measurements of the dimensions of the lower cave. Therefore, there is no need to measure it.

אָמַר רַבִּי בְּנָאָה: נִסְתַּכַּלְתִּי בִּשְׁנֵי עֲקֵיבָיו, וְדוֹמִים לִשְׁנֵי גַּלְגַּלֵּי חַמָּה. הַכֹּל בִּפְנֵי שָׂרָה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. שָׂרָה בִּפְנֵי חַוָּה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. חַוָּה בִּפְנֵי אָדָם – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. אָדָם בִּפְנֵי שְׁכִינָה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם.

Rabbi Bena’a says: I gazed at his, Adam’s, two heels, and they shone so brightly that they are similar to two suns. Along these lines, the Gemara states that all people compared to Sarah are like a monkey compared to a human, as Sarah was exceedingly beautiful; Sarah compared to Eve is like a monkey compared to a human; Eve compared to Adam is like a monkey compared to a human; and Adam compared to the Divine Presence is like a monkey compared to a human.

שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב כָּהֲנָא מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּיַעֲקֹב אָבִינוּ, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּיַעֲקֹב אָבִינוּ מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּאָדָם הָרִאשׁוֹן.

It was also stated that the beauty of Rav Kahana is a semblance of the beauty of Rav. The beauty of Rav is a semblance of the beauty of Rabbi Abbahu. The beauty of Rabbi Abbahu is a semblance of the beauty of Jacob our forefather. The beauty of Jacob our forefather is a semblance of the beauty of Adam the first man.

הָהוּא אַמְגּוּשָׁא דַּהֲוָה חָטֵיט שָׁכְבֵי. כִּי מְטָא אַמְּעָרְתָּא דְּרַב טוֹבִי בַּר מַתְנָה, תַּפְשֵׂיהּ בְּדִיקְנֵיהּ. אֲתָא אַבָּיֵי, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: בְּמָטוּתָא מִינָּךְ, שִׁבְקֵיהּ. לְשָׁנָה אַחֲרִיתִי הֲדַר אֲתָא, תַּפְשֵׂיהּ בְּדִיקְנֵיהּ. אֲתָא אַבָּיֵי, לָא שִׁבְקֵיהּ עַד דְּאַיְיתִי מַסְפְּרָא וְגַזְּיֵהּ לְדִיקְנֵיהּ.

On the topic of burial caves, the Gemara relates that there was a certain magus [amgusha] who was rummaging through the graves of the dead. When he arrived at the burial cave of Rav Tovi bar Mattana, Rav Tovi grabbed him by his beard and would not release him. Abaye came and said to Rav Tovi: I beg of you to release him. The magus came again in another year, and Rav Tovi grabbed him by his beard. Abaye came and requested that he release him, but Rav Tovi did not release him, until Abaye brought a scissors and cut his beard.

הָהוּא דַּאֲמַר לְהוּ: חָבִיתָא דְעַפְרָא לְחַד בְּרַאי, חָבִיתָא דְגַרְמֵי לְחַד בְּרַאי, חָבִיתָא דְאוּדְרָא לְחַד בְּרַאי. לָא הֲווֹ יָדְעִי מַאי קָאָמַר לְהוּ. אֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: ״אִית לְכוּ אַרְעָא?״ אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ: ״אִין״. ״אִית לְכוּ חֵיוָתָא?״ ״אִין״. ״אִית לְכוּ בִּסְתַּרְקֵי?״ ״אִין״. ״אִי הָכִי, הָכִי קָאָמַר לְכוּ״.

§ The Gemara relates additional incidents involving Rabbi Bena’a: There was a certain individual who said to his family before he died: A barrel of earth to one of my sons, a barrel of bones to one of my sons, and a barrel of wads of wool to one of my sons. They did not know what he was saying to them. They came before Rabbi Bena’a for guidance. Rabbi Bena’a said to them: Do you have land that your father left as an inheritance? They said to him: Yes. He asked: Do you have livestock that your father left as an inheritance? They said: Yes. He asked: Do you have quilts [bistarkei] that your father left as an inheritance? They said: Yes. He said to them: If so, this is what he said to you, i.e., he meant that he is bequeathing land to one son, livestock to the second, and quilts to the third.

הָהוּא גַּבְרָא דְּשַׁמְעַהּ לִדְבֵיתְהוּ דְּקָא אָמְרָה לְבַרְתַּהּ: ״אַמַּאי לָא צְנִּיעַתְּ בְּאִיסּוּרָא? הָךְ אִיתְּתָא, עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אִית לַהּ, וְלֵית לִי מֵאֲבוּךְ אֶלָּא חַד״. כִּי שָׁכֵיב, אֲמַר לְהוּ: ״כׇּל נִכְסַי לְחַד בְּרָא״.

There was a certain man who heard his wife saying to her daughter: Why do you not act clandestinely when you engage in forbidden sexual intercourse? That woman has, i.e., I have, ten sons, and I have only one from your father, and no one knows. So too, you must be careful so that no one will discover your illicit behavior. Having overheard that only one son was his, when that man was dying he said to his family: All of my property is left to one son.

לָא יָדְעִי לְהֵי מִינַּיְיהוּ. אֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: זִילוּ חֲבוּטוּ קִבְרָא דַּאֲבוּכוֹן, עַד דְּקָאֵי וּמְגַלֵּי לְכוּ לְהֵי מִינַּיְיכוּ שְׁבַקא. אֲזַלוּ כּוּלְּהוּ, הָהוּא דִּבְרֵיהּ הֲוָה לָא אֲזַל. אֲמַר לְהוּ: כּוּלְּהוּ נִכְסֵי דְּהַאי. אֲזַלוּ אֲכַלוּ קוּרָצָא בֵּי מַלְכָּא, אָמְרִי: אִיכָּא גַּבְרָא חַד בִּיהוּדָאֵי, דְּקָא מַפֵּיק מָמוֹנָא מֵאִנָשֵׁי בְּלָא סָהֲדִי וּבְלָא מִידֵּי. אַתְיוּהוּ חַבְשׁוּהוּ.

They did not know to which of them he intended to leave his property. They came before Rabbi Bena’a for guidance, and he said to the sons: Go strike your father’s grave, until he rises and reveals to you to which of you he left his property. They all went, but that one who was his son did not go. Rabbi Bena’a said to them: All of the property belongs to this son who did not go. The other brothers were angry. They went and slandered [akhlu kuretza] Rabbi Bena’a in the king’s house. They said: There is one man among the Jews who removes money from people without witnesses and without any evidence. The king’s guards brought Rabbi Bena’a and imprisoned him.

אֲזַלָא דְּבֵיתְהוּ, אֲמַרָה לְהוּ: עַבְדָּא חַד הֲוָה לִי, פְּסַקוּ לְרֵישֵׁיהּ וּפְשַׁטוּ לְמַשְׁכֵּיהּ וַאֲכַלוּ בִּישְׂרֵיהּ, וְקָא מָלוּ בֵּיהּ מַיָּא וּמַשְׁקוּ בֵּיהּ לְחַבְרַיָּיא, וְלָא קָא יָהֲבִי לִי דְּמֵי וְלָא אַגְרֵיהּ.

The wife of Rabbi Bena’a went and said to the guards: I had one servant. They cut off his head, and skinned him and ate his flesh, and they fill him with water and give their friends to drink from him, and they have not paid me his value nor have they rented him.

לָא יָדְעִי מַאי קָא אָמְרָה לְהוּ. אָמְרִי: נַיְתוֹ לְחַכִּימָא דִיהוּדָאֵי, וְלֵימָא. קַרְיוּהוּ לְרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: זַרְנוּקָא אָמְרָה לְכוּ. אָמְרִי: הוֹאִיל וְחַכִּים כּוּלֵּי הַאי, לִיתֵּיב אַבָּבָא וְנֵידוּן דִּינָא.

They did not know what she was saying to them. They said: Let us bring the wise man of the Jews, and let him say what she meant. They called Rabbi Bena’a, and he said to them: She spoke to you of a water skin [zarnuka]. In other words, she was referring to a goat she owned that was slaughtered, its meat eaten, and its skin made into a water skin that could be filled with drinking water. They said: Since he is so wise, let him sit at the gate where the judges congregate and render judgment.

חֲזָא דַּהֲוָה כְּתִיב בַּאֲבוּלָּא: ״כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין – לָא שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין״. אֲמַר לְהוּ: אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, אֲתָא אִינִישׁ מֵעָלְמָא

Rabbi Bena’a saw that it was written upon the gate [be’abbula]: Any judge who is summoned to judgment is not considered a judge, as judges must be above reproach. He said to them: If that is so, then if a person comes from elsewhere

וּמַזְמֵין (לְהוּ) [לֵיהּ] לְדִינָא, פַּסְלֵיהּ?! אֶלָּא כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין, וּמַפְּקִין מִינֵּיהּ מָמוֹנָא בְּדִין – לָאו שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין. כְּתַבוּ הָכִי: ״בְּרַם סָאבֵי דִיהוּדָאֵי אָמְרִי: כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין וּמַפְּקִין מִינֵּיהּ מָמוֹנָא בְּדִין – לָאו שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין״.

and summons a judge to judgment, has he disqualified the judge even if he were later to be exonerated? Rather, it should say: Any judge who is summoned to judgment and money is lawfully taken from him, i.e., he was ordered to return someone’s property, is not considered a judge. When they heard this, they wrote this addendum to the original inscription: But the elders of the Jews say that any judge who is summoned to judgment and money is lawfully taken from him is not considered a judge.

חֲזָא דִּכְתִיב: ״בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מוֹתָא – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל חַיִּין – אֲנָא חֲמַר״. אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, דְּנָפֵיל מֵאִיגָּרָא וּמִית, וּדְנָפֵיל מִדִּיקְלָא וּמִית, דְּמָא קַטְלֵיהּ?! וְתוּ, מַן דְּדַרְכֵּיהּ לְמֵימַת – מַשְׁקוּ לֵיהּ חַמְרָא, וְחָיֵי?! אֶלָּא הָכִי בָּעֵי לְמִכְתַּב: בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מַרְעִין – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל אָסְווֹן – אֲנָא חֲמַר. כְּתַבוּ הָכִי: ״בְּרַם סָאבֵי דִיהוּדָאֵי אָמְרִי: בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מַרְעִין – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל אָסְווֹן – אֲנָא חֲמַר, בַּאֲתַר דְּלֵית חֲמַר – תַּמָּן מִתְבָּעוּ סַמָּנִין״.

Rabbi Bena’a also saw that it was written there: At the head of all death am I, blood, i.e., people die from an excess of blood; at the head of all life am I, wine, i.e., wine is what gives life. He said to them: If that is so, in the case of someone who falls from a roof and dies, or someone who falls from a palm tree and dies, was it blood that killed him? And furthermore, concerning someone who is on the way to death, can they give him a drink of wine and he will live? Rather, this is what should be written: At the head of all illness am I, blood; at the head of all healing am I, wine. When they heard this, they wrote this addendum to the original inscription: But the elders of the Jews say: At the head of all illness am I, blood; at the head of all healing am I, wine. In a place where there is no wine, herbs are required there as medicines.

כְּתִיב אַפִּיתְחָא דְקַפּוֹטְקְיָא: ״אַנְפַּק, אַנְבַּג, אַנְטַל״. וְאֵיזֶהוּ אַנְטַל? זֶהוּ רְבִיעִית שֶׁל תּוֹרָה.

Having related that incident, the Gemara notes that at the entrance of Kapotekiyya it was written: Anpak, anbag, antal, which are all names for the same measurement. And what is antal? It is the quarterlog of the Torah.

מַתְנִי׳ הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה. הַמַּזְחֵילָה יֵשׁ לָהּ חֲזָקָה.

MISHNA: With regard to a spout protruding from one’s roof gutter draining water into another’s property, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as the Gemara will explain. With regard to a gutter pipe that traverses the length of the roof, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

סוּלָּם הַמִּצְרִי אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְלַצּוֹרִי יֵשׁ לוֹ חֲזָקָה.

With regard to an Egyptian ladder, which is small and portable, one has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use. But with regard to a Tyrian ladder, which is large and fixed in place, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

חַלּוֹן הַמִּצְרִית אֵין לָהּ חֲזָקָה, וְלַצּוֹרִית יֵשׁ לָהּ חֲזָקָה. אֵיזוֹ הִיא חַלּוֹן הַמִּצְרִית? כֹּל שֶׁאֵין רֹאשׁוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם יָכוֹל לִיכָּנֵס לְתוֹכָהּ. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אִם יֵשׁ לָהּ מַלְבֵּן – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין רֹאשׁוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם יָכוֹל לִיכָּנֵס לְתוֹכָהּ, הֲרֵי זוֹ חֲזָקָה.

With regard to an Egyptian window, one has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use; but with regard to a Tyrian window, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use. What is the defining feature of an Egyptian window? It is any window that is so small that a person’s head is not able to fit inside it. Rabbi Yehuda says: If a window has a frame, even though a person’s head is not able to fit inside it, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

גְּמָ׳ מַאי ״הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה״? אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל, הָכִי קָאָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – מֵרוּחַ אַחַת, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – מִשְׁתֵּי רוּחוֹת.

GEMARA: The Gemara asks: What is the meaning of the mishna’s statement: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place? Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: This is what it is saying: Concerning a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use with regard to one side, i.e., the owner of the field below has the right to move the spout from one place to another on one side of the roof, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege concerning its place with regard to two sides, i.e., the owner of the field below does not have the right to move it to another side of the roof.

רַבִּי חֲנִינָא אָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם הָיָה אָרוֹךְ מְקַצְּרוֹ, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם בָּא לְעוֹקְרוֹ, אֵינוֹ עוֹקְרוֹ.

Rabbi Ḥanina said there is a different explanation: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its size, as if it was long, the owner of the field below may shorten it, but one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as if the owner of the field below comes to remove it entirely, he may not remove it.

רַב יִרְמְיָה בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם רוֹצֶה לִבְנוֹת תַּחְתָּיו בּוֹנֶה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם בָּא לְעוֹקְרוֹ אֵינוֹ עוֹקְרוֹ.

Rav Yirmeya bar Abba said there is a different explanation: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, as if the owner of the field below wishes to build beneath it, he may build, and the owner of the spout may not prevent him from doing so; but one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as if the owner of the field below comes to remove it entirely, he may not remove it.

Today’s daily daf tools:

Delve Deeper

Broaden your understanding of the topics on this daf with classes and podcasts from top women Talmud scholars.

For the Beyond the Daf shiurim offered in Hebrew, see here.

New to Talmud?

Check out our resources designed to help you navigate a page of Talmud – and study at the pace, level and style that fits you. 

The Hadran Women’s Tapestry

Meet the diverse women learning Gemara at Hadran and hear their stories. 

After reading the book, “ If All The Seas Were Ink “ by Ileana Kurshan I started studying Talmud. I searched and studied with several teachers until I found Michelle Farber. I have been studying with her for two years. I look forward every day to learn from her.

Janine Rubens
Janine Rubens

Virginia, United States

I graduated college in December 2019 and received a set of shas as a present from my husband. With my long time dream of learning daf yomi, I had no idea that a new cycle was beginning just one month later, in January 2020. I have been learning the daf ever since with Michelle Farber… Through grad school, my first job, my first baby, and all the other incredible journeys over the past few years!
Sigal Spitzer Flamholz
Sigal Spitzer Flamholz

Bronx, United States

I was exposed to Talmud in high school, but I was truly inspired after my daughter and I decided to attend the Women’s Siyum Shas in 2020. We knew that this was a historic moment. We were blown away, overcome with emotion at the euphoria of the revolution. Right then, I knew I would continue. My commitment deepened with the every-morning Virtual Beit Midrash on Zoom with R. Michelle.

Adina Hagege
Adina Hagege

Zichron Yaakov, Israel

My husband learns Daf, my son learns Daf, my son-in-law learns Daf.
When I read about Hadran’s Siyyum HaShas 2 years ago, I thought- I can learn Daf too!
I had learned Gemara in Hillel HS in NJ, & I remembered loving it.
Rabbanit Michelle & Hadran have opened my eyes & expanding my learning so much in the past few years. We can now discuss Gemara as a family.
This was a life saver during Covid

Renee Braha
Renee Braha

Brooklyn, NY, United States

I am a Reform rabbi and took Talmud courses in rabbinical school, but I knew there was so much more to learn. It felt inauthentic to serve as a rabbi without having read the entire Talmud, so when the opportunity arose to start Daf Yomi in 2020, I dove in! Thanks to Hadran, Daf Yomi has enriched my understanding of rabbinic Judaism and deepened my love of Jewish text & tradition. Todah rabbah!

Rabbi Nicki Greninger
Rabbi Nicki Greninger

California, United States

The start of my journey is not so exceptional. I was between jobs and wanted to be sure to get out every day (this was before corona). Well, I was hooked after about a month and from then on only looked for work-from-home jobs so I could continue learning the Daf. Daf has been a constant in my life, though hurricanes, death, illness/injury, weddings. My new friends are Rav, Shmuel, Ruth, Joanna.
Judi Felber
Judi Felber

Raanana, Israel

Michelle has been an inspiration for years, but I only really started this cycle after the moving and uplifting siyum in Jerusalem. It’s been an wonderful to learn and relearn the tenets of our religion and to understand how the extraordinary efforts of a band of people to preserve Judaism after the fall of the beit hamikdash is still bearing fruits today. I’m proud to be part of the chain!

Judith Weil
Judith Weil

Raanana, Israel

I heard about the syium in January 2020 & I was excited to start learning then the pandemic started. Learning Daf became something to focus on but also something stressful. As the world changed around me & my family I had to adjust my expectations for myself & the world. Daf Yomi & the Hadran podcast has been something I look forward to every day. It gives me a moment of centering & Judaism daily.

Talia Haykin
Talia Haykin

Denver, United States

I started learning at the beginning of the cycle after a friend persuaded me that it would be right up my alley. I was lucky enough to learn at Rabbanit Michelle’s house before it started on zoom and it was quickly part of my daily routine. I find it so important to see for myself where halachot were derived, where stories were told and to get more insight into how the Rabbis interacted.

Deborah Dickson
Deborah Dickson

Ra’anana, Israel

Having never learned Talmud before, I started Daf Yomi in hopes of connecting to the Rabbinic tradition, sharing a daily idea on Instagram (@dafyomiadventures). With Hadran and Sefaria, I slowly gained confidence in my skills and understanding. Now, part of the Pardes Jewish Educators Program, I can’t wait to bring this love of learning with me as I continue to pass it on to my future students.

Hannah-G-pic
Hannah Greenberg

Pennsylvania, United States

I learned daf more off than on 40 years ago. At the beginning of the current cycle, I decided to commit to learning daf regularly. Having Rabanit Michelle available as a learning partner has been amazing. Sometimes I learn with Hadran, sometimes with my husband, and sometimes on my own. It’s been fun to be part of an extended learning community.

Miriam Pollack
Miriam Pollack

Honolulu, Hawaii, United States

My husband learns Daf, my son learns Daf, my son-in-law learns Daf.
When I read about Hadran’s Siyyum HaShas 2 years ago, I thought- I can learn Daf too!
I had learned Gemara in Hillel HS in NJ, & I remembered loving it.
Rabbanit Michelle & Hadran have opened my eyes & expanding my learning so much in the past few years. We can now discuss Gemara as a family.
This was a life saver during Covid

Renee Braha
Renee Braha

Brooklyn, NY, United States

I started Daf during the pandemic. I listened to a number of podcasts by various Rebbeim until one day, I discovered Rabbanit Farbers podcast. Subsequently I joined the Hadran family in Eruvin. Not the easiest place to begin, Rabbanit Farber made it all understandable and fun. The online live group has bonded together and have really become a supportive, encouraging family.

Leah Goldford
Leah Goldford

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

I had tried to start after being inspired by the hadran siyum, but did not manage to stick to it. However, just before masechet taanit, our rav wrote a message to the shul WhatsApp encouraging people to start with masechet taanit, so I did! And this time, I’m hooked! I listen to the shiur every day , and am also trying to improve my skills.

Laura Major
Laura Major

Yad Binyamin, Israel

It has been a pleasure keeping pace with this wonderful and scholarly group of women.

Janice Block
Janice Block

Beit Shemesh, Israel

I learned Mishnayot more than twenty years ago and started with Gemara much later in life. Although I never managed to learn Daf Yomi consistently, I am learning since some years Gemara in depth and with much joy. Since last year I am studying at the International Halakha Scholars Program at the WIHL. I often listen to Rabbanit Farbers Gemara shiurim to understand better a specific sugyiah. I am grateful for the help and inspiration!

Shoshana Ruerup
Shoshana Ruerup

Berlin, Germany

I started learning Jan 2020 when I heard the new cycle was starting. I had tried during the last cycle and didn’t make it past a few weeks. Learning online from old men didn’t speak to my soul and I knew Talmud had to be a soul journey for me. Enter Hadran! Talmud from Rabbanit Michelle Farber from a woman’s perspective, a mother’s perspective and a modern perspective. Motivated to continue!

Keren Carter
Keren Carter

Brentwood, California, United States

After enthusing to my friend Ruth Kahan about how much I had enjoyed remote Jewish learning during the earlier part of the pandemic, she challenged me to join her in learning the daf yomi cycle. I had always wanted to do daf yomi but now had no excuse. The beginning was particularly hard as I had never studied Talmud but has become easier, as I have gained some familiarity with it.

Susan-Vishner-Hadran-photo-scaled
Susan Vishner

Brookline, United States

Inspired by Hadran’s first Siyum ha Shas L’Nashim two years ago, I began daf yomi right after for the next cycle. As to this extraordinary journey together with Hadran..as TS Eliot wrote “We must not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we began and to know the place for the first time.

Susan Handelman
Susan Handelman

Jerusalem, Israel

I started my journey on the day I realized that the Siyum was happening in Yerushalayim and I was missing out. What? I told myself. How could I have not known about this? How can I have missed out on this opportunity? I decided that moment, I would start Daf Yomi and Nach Yomi the very next day. I am so grateful to Hadran. I am changed forever because I learn Gemara with women. Thank you.

Linda Brownstein
Linda Brownstein

Mitspe, Israel

Bava Batra 58

לִמְדוּרָה, וּקְדֵרוֹת מַקִּיפוֹת אוֹתָהּ.

to a bonfire, where the fire is in the center and pots surround it. Similarly, the table of an ignoramus is arranged with the food in the center and is surrounded by plates.

מִטָּה שֶׁל תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים – כֵּיצַד? כֹּל שֶׁאֵין תַּחְתֶּיהָ אֶלָּא סַנְדָּלִין בִּימוֹת הַחַמָּה, וּמִנְעָלִין בִּימוֹת הַגְּשָׁמִים. וְשֶׁל עַם הָאָרֶץ – דּוֹמָה לְאוֹצָר בָּלוּס.

Rabbi Yoḥanan asked: How should the bed of Torah scholars be kept? He replied: It is acceptable as long as there is nothing except sandals beneath it during the summer, and shoes beneath it during the rainy season, i.e., winter. And the bed of an ignoramus is similar to a cluttered [balus] storehouse, as he keeps a wide array of items beneath it.

רַבִּי בְּנָאָה הֲוָה קָא מְצַיֵּין מְעָרָתָא. כִּי מְטָא לִמְעָרְתָּא דְאַבְרָהָם, אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ לֶאֱלִיעֶזֶר עֶבֶד אַבְרָהָם דְּקָאֵי קַמֵּי בָּבָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי קָא עָבֵיד אַבְרָהָם? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: גָּאנֵי בְּכַנְפַהּ דְּשָׂרָה, וְקָא מְעַיְּינָא לֵיהּ בְּרֵישֵׁיהּ.

§ Having mentioned Rabbi Bena’a, the Gemara relates an incident in which he was involved. Rabbi Bena’a was marking burial caves for the purpose of helping to prevent the contracting of ritual impurity. When he arrived at the cave of Abraham, i.e., the Cave of Machpelah, he encountered Eliezer, the servant of Abraham, who was standing before the entrance. Rabbi Bena’a said to him: What is Abraham doing at this moment? Eliezer said to him: He is lying in the arms of Sarah, and she is examining his head.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ, זִיל אֵימָא לֵיהּ: בְּנָאָה קָאֵי אַבָּבָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֵיעוּל – מִידָּע יְדִיעַ דְּיֵצֶר בְּהַאי עָלְמָא לֵיכָּא. עָיֵיל, עַיֵּין וּנְפַק.

Rabbi Bena’a said to him: Go tell him that Bena’a is standing at the entrance, so that he should assume an appropriate position to receive a visitor. Eliezer said to him: Let him, i.e., Rabbi Bena’a, enter, since it is known that there is no evil inclination in this higher world, so it is not inappropriate for Rabbi Bena’a to see Abraham and Sarah in this position. He entered, examined the cave in order to measure it, and exited.

כִּי מְטָא לִמְעָרְתָּא דְּאָדָם הָרִאשׁוֹן, יָצְתָה בַּת קוֹל וְאָמְרָה: ״נִסְתַּכַּלְתָּ בִּדְמוּת דְּיוֹקְנִי, בִּדְיוֹקְנִי עַצְמָהּ אַל תִּסְתַּכֵּל״. ״הָא בָּעֵינָא לְצַיּוֹנֵי מְעָרְתָּא!״ ״כְּמִדַּת הַחִיצוֹנָה כָּךְ מִדַּת הַפְּנִימִית. וּלְמַאן דְּאָמַר שְׁנֵי בָתִּים זוֹ לְמַעְלָה מִזּוֹ – כְּמִדַּת עֶלְיוֹנָה כָּךְ מִדַּת הַתַּחְתּוֹנָה״.

When he arrived at the cave of Adam the first man, who is buried in the same area, a Divine Voice emerged and said: You gazed upon the likeness of My image, i.e., Abraham, who is similar to the image of Adam the first man. Do not gaze upon My image itself, i.e., Adam the first man, about whom the verse states that he was formed in the image of God (see Genesis 1:27). Rabbi Bena’a said: But I need to mark the cave. The voice said to him: As the measurements of the dimensions of the outer cave where Abraham is buried, so are the measurements of the dimensions of the inner cave, where Adam is buried. The Gemara notes: And according to the one who says that the Cave of Machpelah consists of two chambers, this one above that one, not two adjacent chambers, the voice said: As the measurements of the dimensions of the upper cave where Abraham is buried, so are the measurements of the dimensions of the lower cave. Therefore, there is no need to measure it.

אָמַר רַבִּי בְּנָאָה: נִסְתַּכַּלְתִּי בִּשְׁנֵי עֲקֵיבָיו, וְדוֹמִים לִשְׁנֵי גַּלְגַּלֵּי חַמָּה. הַכֹּל בִּפְנֵי שָׂרָה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. שָׂרָה בִּפְנֵי חַוָּה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. חַוָּה בִּפְנֵי אָדָם – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם. אָדָם בִּפְנֵי שְׁכִינָה – כְּקוֹף בִּפְנֵי אָדָם.

Rabbi Bena’a says: I gazed at his, Adam’s, two heels, and they shone so brightly that they are similar to two suns. Along these lines, the Gemara states that all people compared to Sarah are like a monkey compared to a human, as Sarah was exceedingly beautiful; Sarah compared to Eve is like a monkey compared to a human; Eve compared to Adam is like a monkey compared to a human; and Adam compared to the Divine Presence is like a monkey compared to a human.

שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב כָּהֲנָא מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַב מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּיַעֲקֹב אָבִינוּ, שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּיַעֲקֹב אָבִינוּ מֵעֵין שׁוּפְרֵיהּ דְּאָדָם הָרִאשׁוֹן.

It was also stated that the beauty of Rav Kahana is a semblance of the beauty of Rav. The beauty of Rav is a semblance of the beauty of Rabbi Abbahu. The beauty of Rabbi Abbahu is a semblance of the beauty of Jacob our forefather. The beauty of Jacob our forefather is a semblance of the beauty of Adam the first man.

הָהוּא אַמְגּוּשָׁא דַּהֲוָה חָטֵיט שָׁכְבֵי. כִּי מְטָא אַמְּעָרְתָּא דְּרַב טוֹבִי בַּר מַתְנָה, תַּפְשֵׂיהּ בְּדִיקְנֵיהּ. אֲתָא אַבָּיֵי, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: בְּמָטוּתָא מִינָּךְ, שִׁבְקֵיהּ. לְשָׁנָה אַחֲרִיתִי הֲדַר אֲתָא, תַּפְשֵׂיהּ בְּדִיקְנֵיהּ. אֲתָא אַבָּיֵי, לָא שִׁבְקֵיהּ עַד דְּאַיְיתִי מַסְפְּרָא וְגַזְּיֵהּ לְדִיקְנֵיהּ.

On the topic of burial caves, the Gemara relates that there was a certain magus [amgusha] who was rummaging through the graves of the dead. When he arrived at the burial cave of Rav Tovi bar Mattana, Rav Tovi grabbed him by his beard and would not release him. Abaye came and said to Rav Tovi: I beg of you to release him. The magus came again in another year, and Rav Tovi grabbed him by his beard. Abaye came and requested that he release him, but Rav Tovi did not release him, until Abaye brought a scissors and cut his beard.

הָהוּא דַּאֲמַר לְהוּ: חָבִיתָא דְעַפְרָא לְחַד בְּרַאי, חָבִיתָא דְגַרְמֵי לְחַד בְּרַאי, חָבִיתָא דְאוּדְרָא לְחַד בְּרַאי. לָא הֲווֹ יָדְעִי מַאי קָאָמַר לְהוּ. אֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: ״אִית לְכוּ אַרְעָא?״ אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ: ״אִין״. ״אִית לְכוּ חֵיוָתָא?״ ״אִין״. ״אִית לְכוּ בִּסְתַּרְקֵי?״ ״אִין״. ״אִי הָכִי, הָכִי קָאָמַר לְכוּ״.

§ The Gemara relates additional incidents involving Rabbi Bena’a: There was a certain individual who said to his family before he died: A barrel of earth to one of my sons, a barrel of bones to one of my sons, and a barrel of wads of wool to one of my sons. They did not know what he was saying to them. They came before Rabbi Bena’a for guidance. Rabbi Bena’a said to them: Do you have land that your father left as an inheritance? They said to him: Yes. He asked: Do you have livestock that your father left as an inheritance? They said: Yes. He asked: Do you have quilts [bistarkei] that your father left as an inheritance? They said: Yes. He said to them: If so, this is what he said to you, i.e., he meant that he is bequeathing land to one son, livestock to the second, and quilts to the third.

הָהוּא גַּבְרָא דְּשַׁמְעַהּ לִדְבֵיתְהוּ דְּקָא אָמְרָה לְבַרְתַּהּ: ״אַמַּאי לָא צְנִּיעַתְּ בְּאִיסּוּרָא? הָךְ אִיתְּתָא, עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אִית לַהּ, וְלֵית לִי מֵאֲבוּךְ אֶלָּא חַד״. כִּי שָׁכֵיב, אֲמַר לְהוּ: ״כׇּל נִכְסַי לְחַד בְּרָא״.

There was a certain man who heard his wife saying to her daughter: Why do you not act clandestinely when you engage in forbidden sexual intercourse? That woman has, i.e., I have, ten sons, and I have only one from your father, and no one knows. So too, you must be careful so that no one will discover your illicit behavior. Having overheard that only one son was his, when that man was dying he said to his family: All of my property is left to one son.

לָא יָדְעִי לְהֵי מִינַּיְיהוּ. אֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: זִילוּ חֲבוּטוּ קִבְרָא דַּאֲבוּכוֹן, עַד דְּקָאֵי וּמְגַלֵּי לְכוּ לְהֵי מִינַּיְיכוּ שְׁבַקא. אֲזַלוּ כּוּלְּהוּ, הָהוּא דִּבְרֵיהּ הֲוָה לָא אֲזַל. אֲמַר לְהוּ: כּוּלְּהוּ נִכְסֵי דְּהַאי. אֲזַלוּ אֲכַלוּ קוּרָצָא בֵּי מַלְכָּא, אָמְרִי: אִיכָּא גַּבְרָא חַד בִּיהוּדָאֵי, דְּקָא מַפֵּיק מָמוֹנָא מֵאִנָשֵׁי בְּלָא סָהֲדִי וּבְלָא מִידֵּי. אַתְיוּהוּ חַבְשׁוּהוּ.

They did not know to which of them he intended to leave his property. They came before Rabbi Bena’a for guidance, and he said to the sons: Go strike your father’s grave, until he rises and reveals to you to which of you he left his property. They all went, but that one who was his son did not go. Rabbi Bena’a said to them: All of the property belongs to this son who did not go. The other brothers were angry. They went and slandered [akhlu kuretza] Rabbi Bena’a in the king’s house. They said: There is one man among the Jews who removes money from people without witnesses and without any evidence. The king’s guards brought Rabbi Bena’a and imprisoned him.

אֲזַלָא דְּבֵיתְהוּ, אֲמַרָה לְהוּ: עַבְדָּא חַד הֲוָה לִי, פְּסַקוּ לְרֵישֵׁיהּ וּפְשַׁטוּ לְמַשְׁכֵּיהּ וַאֲכַלוּ בִּישְׂרֵיהּ, וְקָא מָלוּ בֵּיהּ מַיָּא וּמַשְׁקוּ בֵּיהּ לְחַבְרַיָּיא, וְלָא קָא יָהֲבִי לִי דְּמֵי וְלָא אַגְרֵיהּ.

The wife of Rabbi Bena’a went and said to the guards: I had one servant. They cut off his head, and skinned him and ate his flesh, and they fill him with water and give their friends to drink from him, and they have not paid me his value nor have they rented him.

לָא יָדְעִי מַאי קָא אָמְרָה לְהוּ. אָמְרִי: נַיְתוֹ לְחַכִּימָא דִיהוּדָאֵי, וְלֵימָא. קַרְיוּהוּ לְרַבִּי בְּנָאָה, אֲמַר לְהוּ: זַרְנוּקָא אָמְרָה לְכוּ. אָמְרִי: הוֹאִיל וְחַכִּים כּוּלֵּי הַאי, לִיתֵּיב אַבָּבָא וְנֵידוּן דִּינָא.

They did not know what she was saying to them. They said: Let us bring the wise man of the Jews, and let him say what she meant. They called Rabbi Bena’a, and he said to them: She spoke to you of a water skin [zarnuka]. In other words, she was referring to a goat she owned that was slaughtered, its meat eaten, and its skin made into a water skin that could be filled with drinking water. They said: Since he is so wise, let him sit at the gate where the judges congregate and render judgment.

חֲזָא דַּהֲוָה כְּתִיב בַּאֲבוּלָּא: ״כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין – לָא שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין״. אֲמַר לְהוּ: אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, אֲתָא אִינִישׁ מֵעָלְמָא

Rabbi Bena’a saw that it was written upon the gate [be’abbula]: Any judge who is summoned to judgment is not considered a judge, as judges must be above reproach. He said to them: If that is so, then if a person comes from elsewhere

וּמַזְמֵין (לְהוּ) [לֵיהּ] לְדִינָא, פַּסְלֵיהּ?! אֶלָּא כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין, וּמַפְּקִין מִינֵּיהּ מָמוֹנָא בְּדִין – לָאו שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין. כְּתַבוּ הָכִי: ״בְּרַם סָאבֵי דִיהוּדָאֵי אָמְרִי: כֹּל דַּיָּין דְּמִתְקְרֵי לְדִין וּמַפְּקִין מִינֵּיהּ מָמוֹנָא בְּדִין – לָאו שְׁמֵיהּ דַּיָּין״.

and summons a judge to judgment, has he disqualified the judge even if he were later to be exonerated? Rather, it should say: Any judge who is summoned to judgment and money is lawfully taken from him, i.e., he was ordered to return someone’s property, is not considered a judge. When they heard this, they wrote this addendum to the original inscription: But the elders of the Jews say that any judge who is summoned to judgment and money is lawfully taken from him is not considered a judge.

חֲזָא דִּכְתִיב: ״בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מוֹתָא – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל חַיִּין – אֲנָא חֲמַר״. אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, דְּנָפֵיל מֵאִיגָּרָא וּמִית, וּדְנָפֵיל מִדִּיקְלָא וּמִית, דְּמָא קַטְלֵיהּ?! וְתוּ, מַן דְּדַרְכֵּיהּ לְמֵימַת – מַשְׁקוּ לֵיהּ חַמְרָא, וְחָיֵי?! אֶלָּא הָכִי בָּעֵי לְמִכְתַּב: בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מַרְעִין – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל אָסְווֹן – אֲנָא חֲמַר. כְּתַבוּ הָכִי: ״בְּרַם סָאבֵי דִיהוּדָאֵי אָמְרִי: בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל מַרְעִין – אֲנָא דָּם, בְּרֵאשׁ כֹּל אָסְווֹן – אֲנָא חֲמַר, בַּאֲתַר דְּלֵית חֲמַר – תַּמָּן מִתְבָּעוּ סַמָּנִין״.

Rabbi Bena’a also saw that it was written there: At the head of all death am I, blood, i.e., people die from an excess of blood; at the head of all life am I, wine, i.e., wine is what gives life. He said to them: If that is so, in the case of someone who falls from a roof and dies, or someone who falls from a palm tree and dies, was it blood that killed him? And furthermore, concerning someone who is on the way to death, can they give him a drink of wine and he will live? Rather, this is what should be written: At the head of all illness am I, blood; at the head of all healing am I, wine. When they heard this, they wrote this addendum to the original inscription: But the elders of the Jews say: At the head of all illness am I, blood; at the head of all healing am I, wine. In a place where there is no wine, herbs are required there as medicines.

כְּתִיב אַפִּיתְחָא דְקַפּוֹטְקְיָא: ״אַנְפַּק, אַנְבַּג, אַנְטַל״. וְאֵיזֶהוּ אַנְטַל? זֶהוּ רְבִיעִית שֶׁל תּוֹרָה.

Having related that incident, the Gemara notes that at the entrance of Kapotekiyya it was written: Anpak, anbag, antal, which are all names for the same measurement. And what is antal? It is the quarterlog of the Torah.

מַתְנִי׳ הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה. הַמַּזְחֵילָה יֵשׁ לָהּ חֲזָקָה.

MISHNA: With regard to a spout protruding from one’s roof gutter draining water into another’s property, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as the Gemara will explain. With regard to a gutter pipe that traverses the length of the roof, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

סוּלָּם הַמִּצְרִי אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְלַצּוֹרִי יֵשׁ לוֹ חֲזָקָה.

With regard to an Egyptian ladder, which is small and portable, one has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use. But with regard to a Tyrian ladder, which is large and fixed in place, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

חַלּוֹן הַמִּצְרִית אֵין לָהּ חֲזָקָה, וְלַצּוֹרִית יֵשׁ לָהּ חֲזָקָה. אֵיזוֹ הִיא חַלּוֹן הַמִּצְרִית? כֹּל שֶׁאֵין רֹאשׁוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם יָכוֹל לִיכָּנֵס לְתוֹכָהּ. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אִם יֵשׁ לָהּ מַלְבֵּן – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין רֹאשׁוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם יָכוֹל לִיכָּנֵס לְתוֹכָהּ, הֲרֵי זוֹ חֲזָקָה.

With regard to an Egyptian window, one has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use; but with regard to a Tyrian window, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use. What is the defining feature of an Egyptian window? It is any window that is so small that a person’s head is not able to fit inside it. Rabbi Yehuda says: If a window has a frame, even though a person’s head is not able to fit inside it, one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege for its use.

גְּמָ׳ מַאי ״הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה״? אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל, הָכִי קָאָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – מֵרוּחַ אַחַת, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – מִשְׁתֵּי רוּחוֹת.

GEMARA: The Gemara asks: What is the meaning of the mishna’s statement: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place? Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: This is what it is saying: Concerning a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use with regard to one side, i.e., the owner of the field below has the right to move the spout from one place to another on one side of the roof, but he does have the means to establish an acquired privilege concerning its place with regard to two sides, i.e., the owner of the field below does not have the right to move it to another side of the roof.

רַבִּי חֲנִינָא אָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם הָיָה אָרוֹךְ מְקַצְּרוֹ, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם בָּא לְעוֹקְרוֹ, אֵינוֹ עוֹקְרוֹ.

Rabbi Ḥanina said there is a different explanation: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its size, as if it was long, the owner of the field below may shorten it, but one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as if the owner of the field below comes to remove it entirely, he may not remove it.

רַב יִרְמְיָה בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר: הַמַּרְזֵב אֵין לוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם רוֹצֶה לִבְנוֹת תַּחְתָּיו בּוֹנֶה, וְיֵשׁ לִמְקוֹמוֹ חֲזָקָה – שֶׁאִם בָּא לְעוֹקְרוֹ אֵינוֹ עוֹקְרוֹ.

Rav Yirmeya bar Abba said there is a different explanation: With regard to a spout, its owner has no means to establish an acquired privilege for its use, as if the owner of the field below wishes to build beneath it, he may build, and the owner of the spout may not prevent him from doing so; but one does have the means to establish an acquired privilege with regard to its place, as if the owner of the field below comes to remove it entirely, he may not remove it.

Want to follow content and continue where you left off?

Create an account today to track your progress, mark what you’ve learned, and follow the shiurim that speak to you.

Clear all items from this list?

This will remove ALL the items in this section. You will lose any progress or history connected to them. This is irreversible.

Cancel
Yes, clear all

Are you sure you want to delete this item?

You will lose any progress or history connected to this item.

Cancel
Yes, delete