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לקרקע ולמיטלטלין יש מנגנונים שונים שבאמצעותם ניתן לקנות אותם. מה המקור לכל אחת מהדרכים הללו ובאילו מצבים דרכים אלו מוגבלות? קנין אגב הוא כאשר רוכשים קרקע ובמקביל רוכשים מיטלטלין. אפשר לרכוש את הקרקע ואוטומטית גם המיטלטלין נרכשים, למרות שהדרך שבה רוכשים את הקרקע אינה דרך שבדרך כלל תעבוד עבור מיטלטלין. נשאלה שאלה: האם ניתן לבצע קניין אגב אם לא נמצאו המיטלטלין בתוך קרקע הנרכשת? מספר מקורות מובאים כדי לנסות לענות על שאלה זו.

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אִי נָמֵי: בַּחֲבִילֵי זְמוֹרוֹת.

Alternatively, the buyer can lift an elephant by using bundles of vines. He leads the elephant to them, and when the elephant stands on the bundles of vines this is considered lifting the elephant.

מַתְנִי׳ נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת – נִקְנִין בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה. שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת – אֵין נִקְנִין אֶלָּא בִּמְשִׁיכָה. נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת נִקְנִין עִם נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה,

MISHNA: Property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land or other items that are fixed in the earth, can be acquired by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of it. Property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., movable property, can be acquired only by pulling. Property that does not serve as a guarantee can be acquired along with property that serves as a guarantee by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of them. The movable property is transferred to the buyer’s possession when it is purchased together with the land, by means of an act of acquisition performed on the land.

וְזוֹקְקִין אֶת הַנְּכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת לִישָּׁבַע עֲלֵיהֶן.

Generally, one is not obligated to take an oath concerning the denial of a claim with regard to land. The mishna continues: And in a legal dispute involving both land and movable property, if the defendant makes a partial admission of the claim with regard to the movable property, thereby rendering himself obligated to take an oath denying any responsibility for the remaining property, the movable property binds the property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., the land, so that he is forced to take an oath concerning the land as well, despite the fact that one is generally not obligated to take an oath for a claim involving land.

גְּמָ׳ בְּכֶסֶף מְנָלַן? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: אָמַר קְרָא: ״שָׂדוֹת בַּכֶּסֶף יִקְנוּ״. וְאֵימָא עַד דְּאִיכָּא שְׁטָר, דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכָתוֹב בַּסֵּפֶר וְחָתוֹם״! אִי כְּתִיב ״יִקְנוּ״ לְבַסּוֹף – כִּדְקָאָמְרַתְּ, הַשְׁתָּא דִּכְתִיב ״יִקְנוּ״ מֵעִיקָּרָא, כֶּסֶף – קָנֵי, שְׁטָר – רְאָיָה בְּעָלְמָא הוּא.

GEMARA: The Gemara inquires: From where do we derive that land can be acquired by means of money? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “They shall acquire fields with money” (Jeremiah 32:44). The Gemara asks: But if the proof is from that verse, one can say that the acquisition is not valid unless there is a document as well, as it is written in the same verse: “And write a document and sign” (Jeremiah 32:44). The Gemara answers: If it were written: They shall acquire fields with money, at the end of the verse, it would be as you said, that one must also write a document so that he can acquire the land with money. Now that it is written “they shall acquire” at the beginning of the verse, this teaches that the money itself effects acquisition of the land, and the document is merely a proof.

אָמַר רַב: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵין כּוֹתְבִין אֶת הַשְּׁטָר, אֲבָל בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁכּוֹתְבִין אֶת הַשְּׁטָר – לֹא קָנָה. וְאִי פָּרֵישׁ – פָּרֵישׁ.

Rav says: They taught that land can be acquired by means of money alone, i.e., without a document, only in a place where the custom is that they do not write documents; but in a place where the custom is that they write documents one does not acquire land until a document is given to him. And if he specified that he wishes to acquire the land from the time of the money transfer, then he has specified his wishes, and the land is acquired once the money is given.

כִּי הָא דְּרַב אִידִי בַּר אָבִין כִּי זָבֵין אַרְעָא, אָמַר: אִי בָּעֵינָא בְּכַסְפָּא – אִיקְנֵי, אִי בָּעֵינָא בִּשְׁטָרָא – אִיקְנֵי. אִי בָּעֵינָא בְּכַסְפָּא – אִיקְנֵי, דְּאִי בָּעֵיתוּ לְמִיהְדַּר, לָא מָצִיתוּ הָדְרִיתוּ. וְאִי בָּעֵינָא בִּשְׁטָרָא – אִיקְנֵי, דְּאִי בָּעֵינָא לְמִיהְדַּר, הָדַרְנָא בִּי.

The Gemara comments: This is like that which Rav Idi bar Avin would do. When purchasing land, Rav Idi bar Avin would say: If I wish to acquire it by means of money, I will acquire it in that manner, and if I wish to acquire it by means of a document, I will acquire it by that method. He would stipulate at the outset that he reserves the right to choose how the transaction will be finalized. The Gemara elaborates: If I wish to acquire it by means of money, I will acquire it in that way, as, if you wish to retract your participation in the sale you cannot retract it, because the money has already changed hands. And if I wish to acquire the land by means of a document, I will acquire it in that way, as, if I wish to retract my participation in the sale I can retract it provided that I have not received a document of purchase.

וּבִשְׁטָר. מְנָלַן? אִילֵּימָא מִשּׁוּם דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכָתוֹב בַּסֵּפֶר וְחָתוֹם וְהָעֵד עֵדִים״, וְהָאָמְרַתְּ שְׁטָר רְאָיָה בְּעָלְמָא הוּא! אֶלָּא מֵהָכָא, ״וָאֶקַּח אֶת סֵפֶר הַמִּקְנָה״. אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה, אֲבָל בְּמֶכֶר לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּתֵּן לוֹ דָּמִים.

§ The mishna teaches that land can be purchased by means of a document. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? If we say that it is because it is written: “And write in a document and sign, and witnesses shall testify” (Jeremiah 32:44), but didn’t you say that the document mentioned in the verse is merely a document of proof? Rather, it is derived from here: “And I took the deed of purchase” (Jeremiah 32:11), an expression that indicates that the document itself effects the acquisition. Shmuel said: The Sages taught that the document itself effects acquisition only in the case of a deed of a gift. But with regard to a sale, it does not effect acquisition until the buyer gives the seller money. The document itself does not effect the acquisition.

מֵתִיב רַב הַמְנוּנָא: בִּשְׁטָר כֵּיצַד? כָּתַב לוֹ עַל הַנְּיָיר אוֹ עַל הַחֶרֶס, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בָּהֶם שָׁוֶה פְּרוּטָה, ״שָׂדִי מְכוּרָה לָךְ״, ״שָׂדִי נְתוּנָה לְךָ״ – הֲרֵי זוֹ מְכוּרָה וּנְתוּנָה. הוּא מוֹתֵיב לַהּ וְהוּא מְפָרֵק לַהּ: בְּמוֹכֵר שָׂדֵהוּ מִפְּנֵי רָעָתָהּ.

Rav Hamnuna raises an objection to this from a baraita: How is acquisition performed by means of a document? If he wrote for him on paper or earthenware, even though the paper or the earthenware is not worth one peruta: My field is sold to you, or: My field is given to you as a gift, it is thereby sold or given. This indicates that a document is sufficient to effect acquisition both in the case of a sale and in the case of a gift. Rav Hamnuna raised the objection and he resolved it: The baraita is referring to one who sells his field due to its poor quality. The seller wants to be rid of his field due to its decreasing value and would like to transfer ownership of it as quickly as possible. In this case writing a document is enough to complete the acquisition.

רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָהּ לוֹ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לוֹ לְשׁוֹן מֶכֶר – כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת אֶת כּוֹחוֹ.

Rav Ashi says: It can be claimed that the entire baraita is referring to one case, that of a gift one wished to give another. The baraita does not deal with a sale at all. And why does he write for him a deed for a gift containing the language of a sale? He does it in order to enhance his power. If it turns out that there was a lien on this land, the beneficiary can collect the value of the field from the giver’s other property, as though this land had been sold to him. In other words, by writing that it is a sale, the giver grants the beneficiary the acquisition power of a buyer, but since the transaction is actually a gift, the document itself completes the acquisition.

וּבַחֲזָקָה. מְנָלַן? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: אָמַר קְרָא: ״וּשְׁבוּ בְּעָרֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר תְּפַשְׂתֶּם״, בַּמֶּה תְּפַשְׂתֶּם – בִּישִׁיבָה. דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל תָּנָא: ״וִירִשְׁתֶּם אֹתָהּ וִישַׁבְתֶּם בָּהּ״, בַּמֶּה יְרַשְׁתֶּם – בִּישִׁיבָה.

§ The mishna further teaches that land can be acquired by means of taking possession of it. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “And dwell in your cities that you have taken” (Jeremiah 40:10). In what manner have you taken these cities? They are taken by dwelling, which indicates that taking possession of a plot of land and dwelling there is an act demonstrating ownership, and it is itself a valid act of acquisition. A Sage from the school of Rabbi Yishmael taught a different proof: “And you shall possess it and dwell there” (Deuteronomy 11:31). How have you possessed it? You have done so by dwelling there. This teaches that land can be acquired through an act that demonstrates ownership.

וְשֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת אֵין נִקְנִין אֶלָּא בִּמְשִׁיכָה. מְנָלַן? דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכִי תִמְכְּרוּ מִמְכָּר לַעֲמִיתֶךָ אוֹ קָנֹה מִיַּד עֲמִיתֶךָ״ – דָּבָר הַנִּקְנֶה מִיָּד לְיָד.

§ The mishna teaches that property that does not serve as a guarantee can be acquired only by pulling. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? As it is written: “And if you sell any item to your neighbor or buy from your neighbor’s hand” (Leviticus 25:14). This verse speaks of an item that is acquired from hand to hand, i.e., by pulling.

וּלְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן דְּאָמַר: דְּבַר תּוֹרָה מָעוֹת קוֹנוֹת, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? תַּנָּא תַּקַּנְתָּא דְרַבָּנַן קָתָנֵי.

The Gemara asks: And according to the opinion of Rabbi Yoḥanan, who says that by Torah law giving money effects acquisition but pulling does not, what can be said? Rabbi Yoḥanan maintains that acquisition through pulling is a rabbinic decree, and by Torah law movable property can be acquired only by means of giving money. Why does the mishna not mention this mode of acquisition? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yoḥanan could answer that the tanna teaches a rabbinic ordinance, which reflects the accepted practice, but he does not find it necessary to mention a mode of acquisition that applies by Torah law.

נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת. מְנָהָנֵי מִילֵּי? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: דְּאָמַר קְרָא: ״וַיִּתֵּן לָהֶם אֲבִיהֶם מַתָּנוֹת וְגוֹ׳ עִם עָרֵי מְצֻרוֹת בִּיהוּדָה״.

§ The mishna further states that property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., movable property, can be acquired along with property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. The Gemara asks: From where is this matter derived? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “And their father gave them great gifts, of silver, and of gold, and of precious things, with fortified cities in Judah (II Chronicles 21:3). This indicates that he gave them movable items together with the cities. He did not need to give the items to them directly, as he was able to transfer these gifts by means of the cities he gave them.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, אוֹ לָא? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: תָּא שְׁמַע: רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: קַרְקַע כׇּל שֶׁהוּא חַיֶּיבֶת בַּפֵּאָה, וּבַבִּכּוּרִים,

A dilemma was raised before the Sages with regard to this matter of acquisition of movable property by way of land: Do we require that this movable property be actually piled on the land that is sold or not? Rav Yosef said: Come and hear a proof from the following mishna (Pe’a 3:6). Rabbi Akiva says: The owner of any amount of land is obligated in pe’a and in first fruits,

וְלִכְתּוֹב עָלֶיהָ פְּרוֹסְבּוּל, וְלִקְנוֹת עִמָּהּ נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, כׇּל שֶׁהוּא לְמַאי חֲזֵי?

and if the debtor possesses land of any area the creditor can write a document that prevents the Sabbatical Year from abrogating an outstanding debt [prosbol] for it so that his loans will not be canceled in the seventh year, and he can acquire property that does not serve as a guarantee along with it. And if you say that we require the movable property to be piled on the land, for what is land of any size fit? What can be piled on a tiny spot of land?

תַּרְגְּומַאּ רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר בִּיסְנָא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב יוֹסֵף: כְּגוֹן שֶׁנָּעַץ בָּהּ מַחַט. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף: קְבַסְתַּן! אִיכְּפַל תַּנָּא לְאַשְׁמוֹעִינַן מַחַט? אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: מַאן לֵימָא לַן דְּלָא תְּלָה בָּהּ מַרְגָּנִיתָא דְּשָׁוְויָא אַלְפָּא זוּזֵי.

Rav Shmuel bar Bisna interpreted it before Rav Yosef as follows: For example, if one stuck a needle into a tiny patch of land, which he sold by means of the land, the needle is acquired. Rav Yosef said to him: You disgust me [kevastan]. Did the tanna go to all that trouble just to teach us that a needle can be acquired by means of land? Rav Ashi said: Who shall say to us that he did not hang a pearl worth one thousand dinars on the needle? One can acquire an item of high value through land of this size. In any event, the question of whether or not the movable property must be piled onto the land has not been resolved.

תָּא שְׁמַע, אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּמָדוֹנִי אֶחָד שֶׁהָיָה בִּירוּשָׁלַיִם שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ מִטַּלְטְלִין הַרְבֵּה, וּבִיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָם בְּמַתָּנָה. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע. מָה עָשָׂה? הָלַךְ וְלָקַח בֵּית סֶלַע סָמוּךְ לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְאָמַר: ״צְפוֹנִי זֶה לִפְלוֹנִי, וְעִמּוֹ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת״, וָמֵת, וְקִיְּימוּ אֶת דְּבָרָיו.

Come and hear, as Rabbi Elazar said: There was an incident involving a certain Madonite [Madoni] who was in Jerusalem, as he had a great deal of movable property and wished to give it as a gift. He was ill and did not have time for the recipient to acquire the property by pulling. The Sages said to him: One in this situation has no remedy but to transfer them by means of land. What did he do? He went and acquired a beit sela, apparently meaning land the size of a sela coin, near Jerusalem and said: This northern portion of the beit sela is given to so-and-so, and with it one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels. And the Madonite died, and the Sages fulfilled his statement and gave the gifts.

וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים בָּהּ, בֵּית סֶלַע לְמַאי חֲזֵי? מִי סָבְרַתְּ בֵּית סֶלַע, סֶלַע מַמָּשׁ? מַאי סֶלַע – דִּנְפִישׁ טוּבָא. וְאַמַּאי קָרוּ לֵיהּ סֶלַע – דִּקְשֵׁי כְּסֶלַע.

And if you say that to acquire movable property by way of land we require that the property be actually piled upon it, for what is a beit sela fit? It is impossible to pile one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels on top of such a small plot of land. The Gemara rejects this argument: Do you maintain that a beit sela is referring to a place that is actually the size of a sela coin? No; rather what is the meaning of the term sela? It is referring to a place that is very large and that could hold the many gifts. If that is true, why did they call it sela? This name indicates that it was hard as rock [sela].

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּאָדָם אֶחָד שֶׁחָלָה בִּירוּשָׁלַיִם – כְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: בָּרִיא הָיָה – כְּרַבָּנַן,

Come and hear a proof from a different source, as Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: There was an incident involving a certain person who became sick in Jerusalem, and the assumption that he became sick is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, who says that a person on his deathbed can transfer property only by means of an accepted standard act of acquisition. And some say he was healthy, and that assumption is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis that a person on his deathbed can transfer property by means of speech alone, whereas a healthy person requires an accepted act of acquisition.

שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ מִטַּלְטְלִין הַרְבֵּה וּבִיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָם בְּמַתָּנָה, אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע. מָה עָשָׂה? הָלַךְ וְלָקַח בֵּית רוֹבַע סָמוּךְ לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְאָמַר: ״טֶפַח עַל טֶפַח לִפְלוֹנִי וְעִמּוֹ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת״, וָמֵת, וְקִיְּימוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת דְּבָרָיו. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, טֶפַח עַל טֶפַח לְמַאי חֲזֵי?

The incident happened as follows: This man had a great deal of movable property and he wished to give it away as a gift. The Sages said to him: In this situation one has no remedy but to transfer movable property by means of land. What did he do? He went and acquired land the size of a beit rova near Jerusalem and said: This square handbreadth is given to so-and-so, and with it one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels. And he died, and the Sages fulfilled his statement. And if you say that we require that the property be piled on the land, for what is a square handbreadth fit? Is it possible to place all of these items in such a limited space?

הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן, לִדְמֵי. הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא, דְּאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת מַמָּשׁ, נַיקְנִינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲלִיפִין.

The Gemara rejects this: With what are we dealing here? It is with money, i.e., he sought to give the value of the barrels and sheep, and money of this amount can be placed on a small plot of land. The Gemara comments: So too, it is reasonable that this incident involved money. As, if it enters your mind to say that it involved an actual group of one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels, let him transfer them to the recipient through an act of symbolic exchange. If the incident involved money, which cannot be transferred by symbolic exchange, he had no recourse but to acquire the land.

וְאֶלָּא מַאי, לִדְמֵי? נַיקְנִינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ בִּמְשִׁיכָה! אֶלָּא: דְּלֵיתֵיהּ לִמְקַבֵּל מַתָּנָה. הָכִי נָמֵי, דְּלֵיתֵיהּ לִמְקַבֵּל מַתָּנָה.

The Gemara raises a difficulty against this argument: Rather, what will you say, that this is referring to money, which cannot be acquired through symbolic exchange? Even so, he still could have acted differently: Let him transfer it to the recipient through pulling. Rather, you are forced to say that the recipient of this gift was not present, and the man wanted to grant him possession of it without the recipient having to perform a physical act of acquisition. So too, it is possible that the recipient of the gift was not present, and he was unable to transfer it to him through symbolic exchange. Consequently, there is no proof that the incident involved money.

וְנִיזְכִּינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ אַגַּב אַחֵר? לָא סָמְכָה דַּעְתֵּיהּ, סָבַר שָׁמֵיט וְאָכֵיל לְהוּ.

The Gemara asks: Is there no other way to perform this acquisition? But let him transfer it to him by means of another person, i.e., another can pull the property on behalf of the recipient. The Gemara answers: The giver did not rely on that option, as he feared that the third party might seize it and consume it or use the property in some other manner. The giver wanted to be sure that the acquisition would be completed in full.

וְאֶלָּא מַאי ״אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה״? הָכִי קָאָמַר: לְמַאי דְּלָא סָמְכָה דַּעְתֵּיהּ – אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע.

Rather, what then is the meaning of the statement: He has no remedy? Even if he did not want to use the option of a third party, it was certainly available to him. The Gemara explains that this is what Rav was saying and meant in his description of this incident: In accordance with his decision that he does not rely on another person and does not want to transfer property by means of anyone else, in this situation one has no remedy but to transfer movable property by means of land. In summary, no decisive proof has been cited as to whether or not it is possible to acquire movable property by means of land when the items are not piled upon the land.

תָּא שְׁמַע: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּרַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל וּזְקֵנִים שֶׁהָיוּ בָּאִים בִּסְפִינָה, אָמַר לָהֶם רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל לַזְּקֵנִים: עִישּׂוּר שֶׁאֲנִי עָתִיד לָמוֹד

Come and hear a proof from the following mishna (Ma’aser Sheni 5:9): There was an incident involving Rabban Gamliel and other Elders who were traveling on a ship. Rabban Gamliel said to the Elders: One-tenth of produce that I will measure out and separate in the future from the produce of my fields

העמקה

רוצה להבין מה באמת קורה מתחת לפני השטח של הסוגיה?
שיעורים, פודקאסטים והרחבות של מיטב המורות שלנו יפתחו לך עוד זוויות וכיווני חשיבה.

לשיעורי עוד על הדף באנגלית, לחצי כאן

חדשה בלימוד הגמרא?

זה הדף הראשון שלך? איזו התרגשות עצומה! יש לנו בדיוק את התכנים והכלים שיעזרו לך לעשות את הצעדים הראשונים ללמידה בקצב וברמה שלך, כך תוכלי להרגיש בנוח גם בתוך הסוגיות המורכבות ומאתגרות.

פסיפס הלומדות שלנו

גלי את קהילת הלומדות שלנו, מגוון נשים, רקעים וסיפורים. כולן חלק מתנועה ומסע מרגש ועוצמתי.

התחלתי ללמוד בסבב הנוכחי לפני כשנתיים .הסביבה מתפעלת ותומכת מאוד. אני משתדלת ללמוד מכל ההסכתים הנוספים שיש באתר הדרן. אני עורכת כל סיום מסכת שיעור בביתי לכ20 נשים שמחכות בקוצר רוח למפגשים האלו.

Yael Asher
יעל אשר

יהוד, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי אחרי שחזרתי בתשובה ולמדתי במדרשה במגדל עוז. הלימוד טוב ומספק חומר למחשבה על נושאים הלכתיים ”קטנים” ועד לערכים גדולים ביהדות. חשוב לי להכיר את הגמרא לעומק. והצעד הקטן היום הוא ללמוד אותה בבקיאות, בעזרת השם, ומי יודע אולי גם אגיע לעיון בנושאים מעניינים. נושאים בגמרא מתחברים לחגים, לתפילה, ליחסים שבין אדם לחברו ולמקום ולשאר הדברים שמלווים באורח חיים דתי 🙂

Gaia Divo
גאיה דיבו

מצפה יריחו, ישראל

כבר סיפרתי בסיום של מועד קטן.
הלימוד מאוד משפיעה על היום שלי כי אני לומדת עם רבנית מישל על הבוקר בזום. זה נותן טון לכל היום – בסיס למחשבות שלי .זה זכות גדול להתחיל את היום בלימוד ובתפילה. תודה רבה !

שרה-ברלוביץ
שרה ברלוביץ

ירושלים, ישראל

התחלתי מעט לפני תחילת הסבב הנוכחי. אני נהנית מהאתגר של להמשיך להתמיד, מרגעים של "אהה, מפה זה הגיע!” ומהאתגר האינטלקטואלי

Eilat-Chen and Deller
אילת-חן ודלר

לוד, ישראל

לצערי גדלתי בדור שבו לימוד גמרא לנשים לא היה דבר שבשגרה ושנים שאני חולמת להשלים את הפער הזה.. עד שלפני מספר שבועות, כמעט במקרה, נתקלתי במודעת פרסומת הקוראת להצטרף ללימוד מסכת תענית. כשקראתי את המודעה הרגשתי שהיא כאילו נכתבה עבורי – "תמיד חלמת ללמוד גמרא ולא ידעת איך להתחיל”, "בואי להתנסות במסכת קצרה וקלה” (רק היה חסר שהמודעה תיפתח במילים "מיכי שלום”..). קפצתי למים ו- ב”ה אני בדרך להגשמת החלום:)

Micah Kadosh
מיכי קדוש

מורשת, ישראל

A life-changing journey started with a Chanukah family tiyul to Zippori, home of the Sanhedrin 2 years ago and continued with the Syum in Binanei Hauma where I was awed by the energy of 3000 women dedicated to learning daf Yomi. Opening my morning daily with a fresh daf, I am excited with the new insights I find enriching my life and opening new and deeper horizons for me.

Becky Goldstein
בקי גולדשטיין

Elazar gush etzion, Israel

התחלתי כשהייתי בחופש, עם הפרסומים על תחילת המחזור, הסביבה קיבלה את זה כמשהו מתמיד ומשמעותי ובהערכה, הלימוד זה עוגן יציב ביום יום, יש שבועות יותר ויש שפחות אבל זה משהו שנמצא שם אמין ובעל משמעות בחיים שלי….

Adi Diamant
עדי דיאמנט

גמזו, ישראל

ראיתי את הסיום הגדול בבנייני האומה וכל כך התרשמתי ורציתי לקחת חלק.. אבל לקח לי עוד כשנה וחצי )באמצע מסיכת שבת להצטרף..
הלימוד חשוב לי מאוד.. אני תמיד במרדף אחרי הדף וגונבת כל פעם חצי דף כשהילדים עסוקים ומשלימה אח”כ אחרי שכולם הלכו לישון..

Olga Mizrahi
אולגה מזרחי

ירושלים, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף לפני קצת יותר מ-5 שנים, כשלמדתי רבנות בישיבת מהר”ת בניו יורק. בדיעבד, עד אז, הייתי בלימוד הגמרא שלי כמו מישהו שאוסף חרוזים משרשרת שהתפזרה, פה משהו ושם משהו, ומאז נפתח עולם ומלואו…. הדף נותן לי לימוד בצורה מאורגנת, שיטתית, יום-יומית, ומלמד אותי לא רק ידע אלא את השפה ודרך החשיבה שלנו. לשמחתי, יש לי סביבה תומכת וההרגשה שלי היא כמו בציטוט שבחרתי: הדף משפיע לטובה על כל היום שלי.

Michal Kahana
מיכל כהנא

חיפה, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי באמצע תקופת הקורונה, שאבא שלי סיפר לי על קבוצה של בנות שתיפתח ביישוב שלנו ותלמד דף יומי כל יום. הרבה זמן רציתי להצטרף לזה וזאת הייתה ההזדמנות בשבילי. הצטרפתי במסכת שקלים ובאמצע הייתה הפסקה קצרה. כיום אני כבר לומדת באולפנה ולומדת דף יומי לבד מתוך גמרא של טיינזלץ.

Saturdays in Raleigh
שבות בראלי

עתניאל, ישראל

התחלתי מעט לפני תחילת הסבב הנוכחי. אני נהנית מהאתגר של להמשיך להתמיד, מרגעים של "אהה, מפה זה הגיע!” ומהאתגר האינטלקטואלי

Eilat-Chen and Deller
אילת-חן ודלר

לוד, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד בסבב הנוכחי לפני כשנתיים .הסביבה מתפעלת ותומכת מאוד. אני משתדלת ללמוד מכל ההסכתים הנוספים שיש באתר הדרן. אני עורכת כל סיום מסכת שיעור בביתי לכ20 נשים שמחכות בקוצר רוח למפגשים האלו.

Yael Asher
יעל אשר

יהוד, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי שהתחילו מסכת כתובות, לפני 7 שנים, במסגרת קבוצת לימוד שהתפרקה די מהר, ומשם המשכתי לבד בתמיכת האיש שלי. נעזרתי בגמרת שטיינזלץ ובשיעורים מוקלטים.
הסביבה מאד תומכת ואני מקבלת המון מילים טובות לאורך כל הדרך. מאז הסיום הגדול יש תחושה שאני חלק מדבר גדול יותר.
אני לומדת בשיטת ה”7 דפים בשבוע” של הרבנית תרצה קלמן – כלומר, לא נורא אם לא הצלחת ללמוד כל יום, העיקר שגמרת ארבעה דפים בשבוע

Rachel Goldstein
רחל גולדשטיין

עתניאל, ישראל

התחלתי לפני 8 שנים במדרשה. לאחרונה סיימתי מסכת תענית בלמידה עצמית ועכשיו לקראת סיום מסכת מגילה.

Daniela Baruchim
דניאלה ברוכים

רעננה, ישראל

התחלתי מחוג במסכת קידושין שהעבירה הרבנית רייסנר במסגרת בית המדרש כלנה בגבעת שמואל; לאחר מכן התחיל סבב הדף היומי אז הצטרפתי. לסביבה לקח זמן לעכל אבל היום כולם תומכים ומשתתפים איתי. הלימוד לעתים מעניין ומעשיר ולעתים קשה ואף הזוי… אך אני ממשיכה קדימה. הוא משפיע על היומיום שלי קודם כל במרדף אחרי הדף, וגם במושגים הרבים שלמדתי ובידע שהועשרתי בו, חלקו ממש מעשי

Abigail Chrissy
אביגיל כריסי

ראש העין, ישראל

לצערי גדלתי בדור שבו לימוד גמרא לנשים לא היה דבר שבשגרה ושנים שאני חולמת להשלים את הפער הזה.. עד שלפני מספר שבועות, כמעט במקרה, נתקלתי במודעת פרסומת הקוראת להצטרף ללימוד מסכת תענית. כשקראתי את המודעה הרגשתי שהיא כאילו נכתבה עבורי – "תמיד חלמת ללמוד גמרא ולא ידעת איך להתחיל”, "בואי להתנסות במסכת קצרה וקלה” (רק היה חסר שהמודעה תיפתח במילים "מיכי שלום”..). קפצתי למים ו- ב”ה אני בדרך להגשמת החלום:)

Micah Kadosh
מיכי קדוש

מורשת, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי לפני שנתיים, עם מסכת שבת. בהתחלה ההתמדה היתה קשה אבל בזכות הקורונה והסגרים הצלחתי להדביק את הפערים בשבתות הארוכות, לסיים את מסכת שבת ולהמשיך עם המסכתות הבאות. עכשיו אני מסיימת בהתרגשות רבה את מסכת חגיגה וסדר מועד ומחכה לסדר הבא!

Ilana-Shachnowitz
אילנה שכנוביץ

מודיעין, ישראל

למדתי גמרא מכיתה ז- ט ב Maimonides School ואחרי העליה שלי בגיל 14 לימוד הגמרא, שלא היה כל כך מקובל בימים אלה, היה די ספוראדי. אחרי "ההתגלות” בבנייני האומה התחלתי ללמוד בעיקר בדרך הביתה למדתי מפוקקטסים שונים. לאט לאט ראיתי שאני תמיד חוזרת לרבנית מישל פרבר. באיזה שהוא שלב התחלתי ללמוד בזום בשעה 7:10 .
היום "אין מצב” שאני אתחיל את היום שלי ללא לימוד עם הרבנית מישל עם כוס הקפה שלי!!

selfie-scaled
דבי גביר

חשמונאים, ישראל

My explorations into Gemara started a few days into the present cycle. I binged learnt and become addicted. I’m fascinated by the rich "tapestry” of intertwined themes, connections between Masechtot, conversations between generations of Rabbanim and learners past and present all over the world. My life has acquired a golden thread, linking generations with our amazing heritage.
Thank you.

Susan Kasdan
סוזן כשדן

חשמונאים, Israel

באירוע של הדרן בנייני האומה. בהשראתה של אמי שלי שסיימה את הש”ס בסבב הקודם ובעידוד מאיר , אישי, וילדיי וחברותיי ללימוד במכון למנהיגות הלכתית של רשת אור תורה סטון ומורתיי הרבנית ענת נובוסלסקי והרבנית דבורה עברון, ראש המכון למנהיגות הלכתית.
הלימוד מעשיר את יומי, מחזיר אותי גם למסכתות שכבר סיימתי וידוע שאינו דומה מי ששונה פרקו מאה לשונה פרקו מאה ואחת במיוחד מרתקים אותי החיבורים בין המסכתות

Roit Kalech
רוית קלך

מודיעין, ישראל

קידושין כו

אִי נָמֵי: בַּחֲבִילֵי זְמוֹרוֹת.

Alternatively, the buyer can lift an elephant by using bundles of vines. He leads the elephant to them, and when the elephant stands on the bundles of vines this is considered lifting the elephant.

מַתְנִי׳ נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת – נִקְנִין בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה. שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת – אֵין נִקְנִין אֶלָּא בִּמְשִׁיכָה. נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת נִקְנִין עִם נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה,

MISHNA: Property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land or other items that are fixed in the earth, can be acquired by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of it. Property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., movable property, can be acquired only by pulling. Property that does not serve as a guarantee can be acquired along with property that serves as a guarantee by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of them. The movable property is transferred to the buyer’s possession when it is purchased together with the land, by means of an act of acquisition performed on the land.

וְזוֹקְקִין אֶת הַנְּכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת לִישָּׁבַע עֲלֵיהֶן.

Generally, one is not obligated to take an oath concerning the denial of a claim with regard to land. The mishna continues: And in a legal dispute involving both land and movable property, if the defendant makes a partial admission of the claim with regard to the movable property, thereby rendering himself obligated to take an oath denying any responsibility for the remaining property, the movable property binds the property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., the land, so that he is forced to take an oath concerning the land as well, despite the fact that one is generally not obligated to take an oath for a claim involving land.

גְּמָ׳ בְּכֶסֶף מְנָלַן? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: אָמַר קְרָא: ״שָׂדוֹת בַּכֶּסֶף יִקְנוּ״. וְאֵימָא עַד דְּאִיכָּא שְׁטָר, דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכָתוֹב בַּסֵּפֶר וְחָתוֹם״! אִי כְּתִיב ״יִקְנוּ״ לְבַסּוֹף – כִּדְקָאָמְרַתְּ, הַשְׁתָּא דִּכְתִיב ״יִקְנוּ״ מֵעִיקָּרָא, כֶּסֶף – קָנֵי, שְׁטָר – רְאָיָה בְּעָלְמָא הוּא.

GEMARA: The Gemara inquires: From where do we derive that land can be acquired by means of money? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “They shall acquire fields with money” (Jeremiah 32:44). The Gemara asks: But if the proof is from that verse, one can say that the acquisition is not valid unless there is a document as well, as it is written in the same verse: “And write a document and sign” (Jeremiah 32:44). The Gemara answers: If it were written: They shall acquire fields with money, at the end of the verse, it would be as you said, that one must also write a document so that he can acquire the land with money. Now that it is written “they shall acquire” at the beginning of the verse, this teaches that the money itself effects acquisition of the land, and the document is merely a proof.

אָמַר רַב: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵין כּוֹתְבִין אֶת הַשְּׁטָר, אֲבָל בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁכּוֹתְבִין אֶת הַשְּׁטָר – לֹא קָנָה. וְאִי פָּרֵישׁ – פָּרֵישׁ.

Rav says: They taught that land can be acquired by means of money alone, i.e., without a document, only in a place where the custom is that they do not write documents; but in a place where the custom is that they write documents one does not acquire land until a document is given to him. And if he specified that he wishes to acquire the land from the time of the money transfer, then he has specified his wishes, and the land is acquired once the money is given.

כִּי הָא דְּרַב אִידִי בַּר אָבִין כִּי זָבֵין אַרְעָא, אָמַר: אִי בָּעֵינָא בְּכַסְפָּא – אִיקְנֵי, אִי בָּעֵינָא בִּשְׁטָרָא – אִיקְנֵי. אִי בָּעֵינָא בְּכַסְפָּא – אִיקְנֵי, דְּאִי בָּעֵיתוּ לְמִיהְדַּר, לָא מָצִיתוּ הָדְרִיתוּ. וְאִי בָּעֵינָא בִּשְׁטָרָא – אִיקְנֵי, דְּאִי בָּעֵינָא לְמִיהְדַּר, הָדַרְנָא בִּי.

The Gemara comments: This is like that which Rav Idi bar Avin would do. When purchasing land, Rav Idi bar Avin would say: If I wish to acquire it by means of money, I will acquire it in that manner, and if I wish to acquire it by means of a document, I will acquire it by that method. He would stipulate at the outset that he reserves the right to choose how the transaction will be finalized. The Gemara elaborates: If I wish to acquire it by means of money, I will acquire it in that way, as, if you wish to retract your participation in the sale you cannot retract it, because the money has already changed hands. And if I wish to acquire the land by means of a document, I will acquire it in that way, as, if I wish to retract my participation in the sale I can retract it provided that I have not received a document of purchase.

וּבִשְׁטָר. מְנָלַן? אִילֵּימָא מִשּׁוּם דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכָתוֹב בַּסֵּפֶר וְחָתוֹם וְהָעֵד עֵדִים״, וְהָאָמְרַתְּ שְׁטָר רְאָיָה בְּעָלְמָא הוּא! אֶלָּא מֵהָכָא, ״וָאֶקַּח אֶת סֵפֶר הַמִּקְנָה״. אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה, אֲבָל בְּמֶכֶר לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּתֵּן לוֹ דָּמִים.

§ The mishna teaches that land can be purchased by means of a document. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? If we say that it is because it is written: “And write in a document and sign, and witnesses shall testify” (Jeremiah 32:44), but didn’t you say that the document mentioned in the verse is merely a document of proof? Rather, it is derived from here: “And I took the deed of purchase” (Jeremiah 32:11), an expression that indicates that the document itself effects the acquisition. Shmuel said: The Sages taught that the document itself effects acquisition only in the case of a deed of a gift. But with regard to a sale, it does not effect acquisition until the buyer gives the seller money. The document itself does not effect the acquisition.

מֵתִיב רַב הַמְנוּנָא: בִּשְׁטָר כֵּיצַד? כָּתַב לוֹ עַל הַנְּיָיר אוֹ עַל הַחֶרֶס, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בָּהֶם שָׁוֶה פְּרוּטָה, ״שָׂדִי מְכוּרָה לָךְ״, ״שָׂדִי נְתוּנָה לְךָ״ – הֲרֵי זוֹ מְכוּרָה וּנְתוּנָה. הוּא מוֹתֵיב לַהּ וְהוּא מְפָרֵק לַהּ: בְּמוֹכֵר שָׂדֵהוּ מִפְּנֵי רָעָתָהּ.

Rav Hamnuna raises an objection to this from a baraita: How is acquisition performed by means of a document? If he wrote for him on paper or earthenware, even though the paper or the earthenware is not worth one peruta: My field is sold to you, or: My field is given to you as a gift, it is thereby sold or given. This indicates that a document is sufficient to effect acquisition both in the case of a sale and in the case of a gift. Rav Hamnuna raised the objection and he resolved it: The baraita is referring to one who sells his field due to its poor quality. The seller wants to be rid of his field due to its decreasing value and would like to transfer ownership of it as quickly as possible. In this case writing a document is enough to complete the acquisition.

רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָהּ לוֹ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לוֹ לְשׁוֹן מֶכֶר – כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת אֶת כּוֹחוֹ.

Rav Ashi says: It can be claimed that the entire baraita is referring to one case, that of a gift one wished to give another. The baraita does not deal with a sale at all. And why does he write for him a deed for a gift containing the language of a sale? He does it in order to enhance his power. If it turns out that there was a lien on this land, the beneficiary can collect the value of the field from the giver’s other property, as though this land had been sold to him. In other words, by writing that it is a sale, the giver grants the beneficiary the acquisition power of a buyer, but since the transaction is actually a gift, the document itself completes the acquisition.

וּבַחֲזָקָה. מְנָלַן? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: אָמַר קְרָא: ״וּשְׁבוּ בְּעָרֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר תְּפַשְׂתֶּם״, בַּמֶּה תְּפַשְׂתֶּם – בִּישִׁיבָה. דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל תָּנָא: ״וִירִשְׁתֶּם אֹתָהּ וִישַׁבְתֶּם בָּהּ״, בַּמֶּה יְרַשְׁתֶּם – בִּישִׁיבָה.

§ The mishna further teaches that land can be acquired by means of taking possession of it. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “And dwell in your cities that you have taken” (Jeremiah 40:10). In what manner have you taken these cities? They are taken by dwelling, which indicates that taking possession of a plot of land and dwelling there is an act demonstrating ownership, and it is itself a valid act of acquisition. A Sage from the school of Rabbi Yishmael taught a different proof: “And you shall possess it and dwell there” (Deuteronomy 11:31). How have you possessed it? You have done so by dwelling there. This teaches that land can be acquired through an act that demonstrates ownership.

וְשֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת אֵין נִקְנִין אֶלָּא בִּמְשִׁיכָה. מְנָלַן? דִּכְתִיב: ״וְכִי תִמְכְּרוּ מִמְכָּר לַעֲמִיתֶךָ אוֹ קָנֹה מִיַּד עֲמִיתֶךָ״ – דָּבָר הַנִּקְנֶה מִיָּד לְיָד.

§ The mishna teaches that property that does not serve as a guarantee can be acquired only by pulling. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive this? As it is written: “And if you sell any item to your neighbor or buy from your neighbor’s hand” (Leviticus 25:14). This verse speaks of an item that is acquired from hand to hand, i.e., by pulling.

וּלְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן דְּאָמַר: דְּבַר תּוֹרָה מָעוֹת קוֹנוֹת, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? תַּנָּא תַּקַּנְתָּא דְרַבָּנַן קָתָנֵי.

The Gemara asks: And according to the opinion of Rabbi Yoḥanan, who says that by Torah law giving money effects acquisition but pulling does not, what can be said? Rabbi Yoḥanan maintains that acquisition through pulling is a rabbinic decree, and by Torah law movable property can be acquired only by means of giving money. Why does the mishna not mention this mode of acquisition? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yoḥanan could answer that the tanna teaches a rabbinic ordinance, which reflects the accepted practice, but he does not find it necessary to mention a mode of acquisition that applies by Torah law.

נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת. מְנָהָנֵי מִילֵּי? אָמַר חִזְקִיָּה: דְּאָמַר קְרָא: ״וַיִּתֵּן לָהֶם אֲבִיהֶם מַתָּנוֹת וְגוֹ׳ עִם עָרֵי מְצֻרוֹת בִּיהוּדָה״.

§ The mishna further states that property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., movable property, can be acquired along with property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. The Gemara asks: From where is this matter derived? Ḥizkiyya said that the verse states: “And their father gave them great gifts, of silver, and of gold, and of precious things, with fortified cities in Judah (II Chronicles 21:3). This indicates that he gave them movable items together with the cities. He did not need to give the items to them directly, as he was able to transfer these gifts by means of the cities he gave them.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, אוֹ לָא? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: תָּא שְׁמַע: רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: קַרְקַע כׇּל שֶׁהוּא חַיֶּיבֶת בַּפֵּאָה, וּבַבִּכּוּרִים,

A dilemma was raised before the Sages with regard to this matter of acquisition of movable property by way of land: Do we require that this movable property be actually piled on the land that is sold or not? Rav Yosef said: Come and hear a proof from the following mishna (Pe’a 3:6). Rabbi Akiva says: The owner of any amount of land is obligated in pe’a and in first fruits,

וְלִכְתּוֹב עָלֶיהָ פְּרוֹסְבּוּל, וְלִקְנוֹת עִמָּהּ נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם אַחְרָיוּת. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, כׇּל שֶׁהוּא לְמַאי חֲזֵי?

and if the debtor possesses land of any area the creditor can write a document that prevents the Sabbatical Year from abrogating an outstanding debt [prosbol] for it so that his loans will not be canceled in the seventh year, and he can acquire property that does not serve as a guarantee along with it. And if you say that we require the movable property to be piled on the land, for what is land of any size fit? What can be piled on a tiny spot of land?

תַּרְגְּומַאּ רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר בִּיסְנָא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב יוֹסֵף: כְּגוֹן שֶׁנָּעַץ בָּהּ מַחַט. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף: קְבַסְתַּן! אִיכְּפַל תַּנָּא לְאַשְׁמוֹעִינַן מַחַט? אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: מַאן לֵימָא לַן דְּלָא תְּלָה בָּהּ מַרְגָּנִיתָא דְּשָׁוְויָא אַלְפָּא זוּזֵי.

Rav Shmuel bar Bisna interpreted it before Rav Yosef as follows: For example, if one stuck a needle into a tiny patch of land, which he sold by means of the land, the needle is acquired. Rav Yosef said to him: You disgust me [kevastan]. Did the tanna go to all that trouble just to teach us that a needle can be acquired by means of land? Rav Ashi said: Who shall say to us that he did not hang a pearl worth one thousand dinars on the needle? One can acquire an item of high value through land of this size. In any event, the question of whether or not the movable property must be piled onto the land has not been resolved.

תָּא שְׁמַע, אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּמָדוֹנִי אֶחָד שֶׁהָיָה בִּירוּשָׁלַיִם שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ מִטַּלְטְלִין הַרְבֵּה, וּבִיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָם בְּמַתָּנָה. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע. מָה עָשָׂה? הָלַךְ וְלָקַח בֵּית סֶלַע סָמוּךְ לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְאָמַר: ״צְפוֹנִי זֶה לִפְלוֹנִי, וְעִמּוֹ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת״, וָמֵת, וְקִיְּימוּ אֶת דְּבָרָיו.

Come and hear, as Rabbi Elazar said: There was an incident involving a certain Madonite [Madoni] who was in Jerusalem, as he had a great deal of movable property and wished to give it as a gift. He was ill and did not have time for the recipient to acquire the property by pulling. The Sages said to him: One in this situation has no remedy but to transfer them by means of land. What did he do? He went and acquired a beit sela, apparently meaning land the size of a sela coin, near Jerusalem and said: This northern portion of the beit sela is given to so-and-so, and with it one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels. And the Madonite died, and the Sages fulfilled his statement and gave the gifts.

וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים בָּהּ, בֵּית סֶלַע לְמַאי חֲזֵי? מִי סָבְרַתְּ בֵּית סֶלַע, סֶלַע מַמָּשׁ? מַאי סֶלַע – דִּנְפִישׁ טוּבָא. וְאַמַּאי קָרוּ לֵיהּ סֶלַע – דִּקְשֵׁי כְּסֶלַע.

And if you say that to acquire movable property by way of land we require that the property be actually piled upon it, for what is a beit sela fit? It is impossible to pile one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels on top of such a small plot of land. The Gemara rejects this argument: Do you maintain that a beit sela is referring to a place that is actually the size of a sela coin? No; rather what is the meaning of the term sela? It is referring to a place that is very large and that could hold the many gifts. If that is true, why did they call it sela? This name indicates that it was hard as rock [sela].

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּאָדָם אֶחָד שֶׁחָלָה בִּירוּשָׁלַיִם – כְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: בָּרִיא הָיָה – כְּרַבָּנַן,

Come and hear a proof from a different source, as Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: There was an incident involving a certain person who became sick in Jerusalem, and the assumption that he became sick is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, who says that a person on his deathbed can transfer property only by means of an accepted standard act of acquisition. And some say he was healthy, and that assumption is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis that a person on his deathbed can transfer property by means of speech alone, whereas a healthy person requires an accepted act of acquisition.

שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ מִטַּלְטְלִין הַרְבֵּה וּבִיקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָם בְּמַתָּנָה, אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע. מָה עָשָׂה? הָלַךְ וְלָקַח בֵּית רוֹבַע סָמוּךְ לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְאָמַר: ״טֶפַח עַל טֶפַח לִפְלוֹנִי וְעִמּוֹ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת״, וָמֵת, וְקִיְּימוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת דְּבָרָיו. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ בָּעֵינַן צְבוּרִים, טֶפַח עַל טֶפַח לְמַאי חֲזֵי?

The incident happened as follows: This man had a great deal of movable property and he wished to give it away as a gift. The Sages said to him: In this situation one has no remedy but to transfer movable property by means of land. What did he do? He went and acquired land the size of a beit rova near Jerusalem and said: This square handbreadth is given to so-and-so, and with it one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels. And he died, and the Sages fulfilled his statement. And if you say that we require that the property be piled on the land, for what is a square handbreadth fit? Is it possible to place all of these items in such a limited space?

הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן, לִדְמֵי. הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא, דְּאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ מֵאָה צֹאן וּמֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת מַמָּשׁ, נַיקְנִינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲלִיפִין.

The Gemara rejects this: With what are we dealing here? It is with money, i.e., he sought to give the value of the barrels and sheep, and money of this amount can be placed on a small plot of land. The Gemara comments: So too, it is reasonable that this incident involved money. As, if it enters your mind to say that it involved an actual group of one hundred sheep and one hundred barrels, let him transfer them to the recipient through an act of symbolic exchange. If the incident involved money, which cannot be transferred by symbolic exchange, he had no recourse but to acquire the land.

וְאֶלָּא מַאי, לִדְמֵי? נַיקְנִינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ בִּמְשִׁיכָה! אֶלָּא: דְּלֵיתֵיהּ לִמְקַבֵּל מַתָּנָה. הָכִי נָמֵי, דְּלֵיתֵיהּ לִמְקַבֵּל מַתָּנָה.

The Gemara raises a difficulty against this argument: Rather, what will you say, that this is referring to money, which cannot be acquired through symbolic exchange? Even so, he still could have acted differently: Let him transfer it to the recipient through pulling. Rather, you are forced to say that the recipient of this gift was not present, and the man wanted to grant him possession of it without the recipient having to perform a physical act of acquisition. So too, it is possible that the recipient of the gift was not present, and he was unable to transfer it to him through symbolic exchange. Consequently, there is no proof that the incident involved money.

וְנִיזְכִּינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ אַגַּב אַחֵר? לָא סָמְכָה דַּעְתֵּיהּ, סָבַר שָׁמֵיט וְאָכֵיל לְהוּ.

The Gemara asks: Is there no other way to perform this acquisition? But let him transfer it to him by means of another person, i.e., another can pull the property on behalf of the recipient. The Gemara answers: The giver did not rely on that option, as he feared that the third party might seize it and consume it or use the property in some other manner. The giver wanted to be sure that the acquisition would be completed in full.

וְאֶלָּא מַאי ״אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה״? הָכִי קָאָמַר: לְמַאי דְּלָא סָמְכָה דַּעְתֵּיהּ – אֵין לוֹ תַּקָּנָה עַד שֶׁיַּקְנֵם עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע.

Rather, what then is the meaning of the statement: He has no remedy? Even if he did not want to use the option of a third party, it was certainly available to him. The Gemara explains that this is what Rav was saying and meant in his description of this incident: In accordance with his decision that he does not rely on another person and does not want to transfer property by means of anyone else, in this situation one has no remedy but to transfer movable property by means of land. In summary, no decisive proof has been cited as to whether or not it is possible to acquire movable property by means of land when the items are not piled upon the land.

תָּא שְׁמַע: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּרַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל וּזְקֵנִים שֶׁהָיוּ בָּאִים בִּסְפִינָה, אָמַר לָהֶם רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל לַזְּקֵנִים: עִישּׂוּר שֶׁאֲנִי עָתִיד לָמוֹד

Come and hear a proof from the following mishna (Ma’aser Sheni 5:9): There was an incident involving Rabban Gamliel and other Elders who were traveling on a ship. Rabban Gamliel said to the Elders: One-tenth of produce that I will measure out and separate in the future from the produce of my fields

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