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Today’s daf is sponsored by Elana Storch in honor of  Patti Evan’s birthday. ” יומולדת שמח to my dear friend and chevruta partner! Wishing you many more years of good health, mazal and bracha. Loads of love.”

Are all the elements mentioned in the Mishna that are needed for sanctifying additional space essential or is it sufficient for just one of them?  This has ramifications for expansions in the second Temple period where not all these elements were present. This debate is dependent on  whether or not the kedusha from the first Temple remained forever or did it need to be resanctified in the time of Ezra.

From where is it derived that one who becomes impure while in the Temple will need to bring a sliding-scale sacrifice if one doesn’t leave the temple immediately?

What are the measurements for how long one needs to be in there to be obligated in the sacrifice? Would it be the same measurements for one who did it intentionally and will be punished by lashes?

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Shevuot 16

עַל פִּי נָבִיא נֶאֱכֶלֶת וְעַל פִּי נָבִיא נִשְׂרֶפֶת.

Based on a ruling of a prophet the loaves of one thanks-offering were eaten, and based on a ruling of a prophet the loaves of the other thanks-offering were burned. The prophets Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi, who lived at the time of Ezra and Nehemiah’s reconsecration of Jerusalem, instructed the people concerning how the ceremony should be conducted, without providing reasons for the procedures.

כֹּל שֶׁלֹּא נַעֲשֵׂית בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ כּוּ׳. אִיתְּמַר, רַב הוּנָא אָמַר: ״בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן, רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן.

§ The mishna teaches: And with regard to any addition to the Temple that was not made with all these ceremonial procedures, one who enters there while ritually impure is not liable. It was stated that amora’im disagreed about the text of the mishna. Rav Huna says: We learned in the mishna: With all these, which means that all of these procedures are indispensable, and if even one is missing, the consecration does not take effect. Rav Naḥman says: We learned in the mishna: With one of all these; i.e., any one of these procedures suffices for the consecration to take effect.

רַב הוּנָא אָמַר ״בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן – קָסָבַר קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וְעֶזְרָא זֵכֶר בְּעָלְמָא הוּא דַּעֲבַד.

The Gemara further clarifies this disagreement. Rav Huna says: We learned in the mishna: With all these. The Gemara explains: He maintains that the initial consecration of the Temple in the days of David and Solomon sanctified it for its time and sanctified it forever. Therefore, the site of the Temple retained its original sanctity even during the days of the Second Temple. And Ezra, who reconsecrated the area, did so merely as a commemoration of the initial consecration. Accordingly, even though there was no king or Urim VeTummim, the entire area was fully consecrated. By contrast, in order to consecrate an area that had not been part of the initial consecration, all of these procedures are necessary and none can be omitted.

רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן – קָסָבַר: קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְלֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וְעֶזְרָא קַדּוֹשֵׁי קַדֵּישׁ אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא הֲווֹ אוּרִים וְתוּמִּים.

Rav Naḥman says: We learned in the mishna: With one of all these. The Gemara explains: He maintains that the initial consecration of the Temple sanctified it for its time only, and did not sanctify it forever. And Ezra consecrated the Temple and its courtyards, even though there was no king or Urim VeTummim. Consequently, it follows that there is no need for all of these procedures in order for the consecration to take effect.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רָבָא לְרַב נַחְמָן: ״כֹּל שֶׁלֹּא נַעֲשֵׂית בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״! תָּנֵי: ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״.

Rava raised an objection to Rav Naḥman: The mishna explicitly states: Any addition that was not made with all these procedures. Rav Naḥman said to him: Emend the mishna and teach it as stating: With one of all these procedures.

תָּא שְׁמַע, אַבָּא שָׁאוּל אוֹמֵר: שְׁנֵי בִּיצְעִין הָיוּ בְּהַר הַמִּשְׁחָה, תַּחְתּוֹנָה וְעֶלְיוֹנָה. תַּחְתּוֹנָה – נִתְקַדְּשָׁה בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ; עֶלְיוֹנָה – לֹא נִתְקַדְּשָׁה בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ, אֶלָּא בְּעוֹלֵי גוֹלָה; שֶׁלֹּא בְּמֶלֶךְ וְשֶׁלֹּא בְּאוּרִים וְתוּמִּים.

The Gemara cites a proof against the opinion of Rav Naḥman: Come and hear a baraita: Abba Shaul says: There were two ponds [bitzin] on the Mount of Olives [Har HaMishḥa], a lower pond and an upper pond. The lower pond was consecrated during the time of the First Temple with all the procedures mentioned in the mishna, and it has the sanctity of Jerusalem for all purposes. By contrast, the upper pond was not consecrated with all these procedures, but rather it was consecrated by those who returned from the exile in Babylonia, without a king and without the Urim VeTummim.

תַּחְתּוֹנָה שֶׁהָיְתָה קְדוּשָּׁתָהּ גְּמוּרָה – עַמֵּי הָאָרֶץ נִכְנָסִין לְשָׁם, וְאוֹכְלִין שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים אֲבָל לֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי; וַחֲבֵרִים אוֹכְלִים שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וּמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי.

The baraita continues: With regard to the lower pond, whose consecration was complete, amei ha’aretz, uneducated people who were not scrupulous in their observance of the mitzvot relating to tithes and to ritual purity, would enter into there and would partake of offerings of lesser sanctity that may be eaten in all of Jerusalem there, but they would not partake of second tithe there because they conducted themselves stringently concerning this matter. And ḥaverim, who were meticulous in their observance of those mitzvot, would partake of both offerings of lesser sanctity and second tithe there.

עֶלְיוֹנָה שֶׁלֹּא הָיְתָה קְדוּשָּׁתָהּ גְּמוּרָה – עַמֵּי הָאָרֶץ הָיוּ נִכְנָסִין שָׁם, וְאוֹכְלִין שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים אֲבָל לֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי; וַחֲבֵרִים אֵין אוֹכְלִין שָׁם לֹא קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וְלֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי. וּמִפְּנֵי מָה לֹא קִידְּשׁוּהָ? שֶׁאֵין מוֹסִיפִין עַל הָעִיר וְעַל הָעֲזָרוֹת אֶלָּא בְּמֶלֶךְ וְנָבִיא וְאוּרִים וְתוּמִּים, וּבְסַנְהֶדְרִין שֶׁל שִׁבְעִים וְאֶחָד, וּבִשְׁתֵּי תּוֹדוֹת וּבְשִׁיר.

The baraita continues: As for the upper pond, whose consecration was incomplete, amei ha’aretz would enter into there and partake of offerings of lesser sanctity there, but they would not partake of second tithe there. And ḥaverim would partake of neither offerings of lesser sanctity nor second tithe there. And for what reason did they not consecrate the upper pond? It was because additions can be made to the city of Jerusalem or to the Temple courtyards only by a special body comprising the king, a prophet, the Urim VeTummim, and the Sanhedrin of seventy-one, and with two thanks-offerings and with a special song.

וְלָמָּה קִידְּשׁוּהָ? לָמָּה קִידְּשׁוּהָ?! הָא אָמְרַתְּ לֹא קִידְּשׁוּהָ! אֶלָּא לָמָה הִכְנִיסוּהָ? מִפְּנֵי שֶׁתּוֹרְפָּהּ שֶׁל יְרוּשָׁלַיִם הָיְתָה, וְנוֹחָה הִיא לִיכָּבֵשׁ מִשָּׁם.

The Gemara asks: But why did they consecrate the upper pond if they could not do so properly? This Gemara responds: Why did they consecrate it? Didn’t you say that they did not consecrate it? Rather, the question should be asked as follows: Given that they could not consecrate the upper pond, why did they bring it within the walls of the city? The Gemara answers: Because it was a weak point [turpa] of Jerusalem and it would have been easy to conquer the city from there, it became necessary to include it within the wall. This baraita seems to present explicit proof against the opinion of Rav Naḥman, who holds that there is no need for all of the procedures listed in the mishna in order for the consecration to be complete.

תַּנָּאֵי הִיא; דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר: שָׁמַעְתִּי כְּשֶׁהָיוּ בּוֹנִין בַּהֵיכָל, עָשׂוּ קְלָעִים לַהֵיכָל וּקְלָעִים לָעֲזָרוֹת. אֶלָּא שֶׁבַּהֵיכָל בּוֹנִין מִבַּחוּץ, וּבָעֲזָרוֹת בּוֹנִין מִבִּפְנִים.

The Gemara rejects this proof: This is a dispute between tanna’im as to whether the initial consecration of Jerusalem and the Temple sanctified them only for their time or forever. Abba Shaul maintains that the initial consecration lapsed, and therefore the reconsecration required all of the procedures mentioned in the mishna. Where is this dispute taught? As it is taught in a mishna (Eduyyot 8:6): Rabbi Eliezer says: I heard that when they were building the Sanctuary in the Second Temple, they fashioned temporary curtains for the Sanctuary and temporary curtains for the courtyards to serve as partitions until the construction of the stone walls was completed. The difference was only that in the Sanctuary, the workers built the walls outside the curtains, without entering, and in the courtyards, the workers built the walls within the curtains.

אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: שָׁמַעְתִּי שֶׁמַּקְרִיבִין אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בַּיִת, אוֹכְלִין קׇדְשֵׁי קָדָשִׁים אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין קְלָעִים, קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וּמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין חוֹמָה; מִפְּנֵי שֶׁקְּדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא. לָאו מִכְּלָל דְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר סָבַר: לֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא?

The mishna continues: Rabbi Yehoshua says: I heard that one sacrifices offerings on the altar even if there is no Temple, and one partakes of offerings of the most sacred order in the Temple courtyard even if there are no curtains, and one partakes of offerings of lesser sanctity and second-tithe produce in Jerusalem even if there is no wall surrounding the city. This is due to the fact that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and also sanctified them forever. The Gemara concludes: From the fact that Rabbi Yehoshua based his opinion on the principle that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem forever, can one not learn by inference that Rabbi Eliezer maintains that it did not sanctify them forever? Apparently, this issue is the subject of a dispute between tanna’im.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבִינָא לְרַב אָשֵׁי: מִמַּאי? דִּלְמָא דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וּמָר מַאי דִּשְׁמִיעַ לֵיהּ קָאָמַר, וּמָר מַאי דִּשְׁמִיעַ לֵיהּ קָאָמַר. וְכִי תֵּימָא: קְלָעִים לְרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר לְמָה לִי? לִצְנִיעוּתָא בְּעָלְמָא.

Ravina said to Rav Ashi: From where do you draw this inference? Perhaps everyone maintains that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and also sanctified them forever. And one Sage, Rabbi Eliezer, stated that tradition, which he heard from his teachers, and one Sage, Rabbi Yehoshua, stated that tradition, which he heard from his teachers, and there is no dispute between them. And if you would say: Why do I need curtains at all according to Rabbi Eliezer? The original sanctity remained when Jerusalem was not surrounded by walls, and similarly, the presence or absence of curtains is irrelevant to the sanctity of the Temple area. The Gemara answers: The curtains were established merely for seclusion, as it would have been unbecoming for the activity in this most sacred venue to be visible to all.

אֶלָּא הָנֵי תַּנָּאֵי – דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: לָמָּה מָנוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת אֵלּוּ? שֶׁכְּשֶׁעָלוּ בְּנֵי הַגּוֹלָה, מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וְקִידְּשׁוּם. אֲבָל רִאשׁוֹנוֹת בָּטְלוּ מִשֶּׁבָּטְלָה הָאָרֶץ. אַלְמָא קָסָבַר: קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְלֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא.

Rather, this matter is subject to a dispute between these tanna’im, as it is taught in a baraita with regard to the walled cities listed in the mishna in tractate Arakhin (32a): Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, said: Why did the Sages enumerate specifically these nine cities as cities that were walled since the days of Joshua, son of Nun? In fact, there were many more. The reason is that when the exiles ascended to Eretz Yisrael from Babylonia in the time of Ezra, they found these cities and consecrated them as walled cities; but the sanctity of the first walled cities, enumerated in the book of Joshua, was nullified when settlement in Eretz Yisrael was negated and the Jewish people were exiled. The Gemara comments: Apparently, Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, maintains: The initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time only and did not sanctify them forever.

ורְמִינְהִי, אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: וְכִי אֵלּוּ בִּלְבַד הָיוּ?! וַהֲלֹא כְּבָר נֶאֱמַר: ״שִׁשִּׁים עִיר כׇּל חֶבֶל אַרְגֹּב מַמְלֶכֶת עוֹג בַּבָּשָׁן, כׇּל אֵלֶּה עָרִים בְּצֻרוֹת חוֹמָה גְבֹהָה״! אֶלָּא לָמָּה מָנוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת אֵלּוּ – שֶׁכְּשֶׁעָלוּ בְּנֵי הַגּוֹלָה מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וְקִידְּשׁוּם.

And the Gemara raises a contradiction from a different baraita: Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, says: Were these cities that are enumerated in tractate Arakhin the only walled cities? But isn’t it already stated: “Sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og, king of Bashan, all these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars” (Deuteronomy 3:4–5), indicating that there were many walled cities in the time of Joshua? Rather, why then did the Sages enumerate specifically these cities? It is due to the fact that when the exiles ascended from Babylonia they found these and consecrated them as walled cities.

קִידְּשׁוּם הַשְׁתָּא?! הָא אָמְרִינַן לְקַמַּן דְּלָא צְרִיכָא לְקַדּוֹשֵׁי! אֶלָּא מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וּמְנָאוּם.

The Gemara asks: They consecrated them? If their sanctity remained, it should not have been necessary to consecrate them. Now, don’t we say later in the same baraita that it is not necessary to consecrate them? The Gemara clarifies: Rather, this is what the baraita means to say: When the exiles ascended from Babylonia they found these and enumerated them.

וְלֹא אֵלּוּ בִּלְבַד, אֶלָּא כׇּל שֶׁתַּעֲלֶה בְּיָדְךָ מָסוֹרֶת מֵאֲבוֹתֶיךָ שֶׁמּוּקֶּפֶת חוֹמָה מִימוֹת יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בִּן נוּן – כׇּל מִצְוֹת אֵלּוּ נוֹהֲגוֹת בָּהּ, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁקְּדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא. קַשְׁיָא דְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי אַדְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי!

The baraita continues: And not only these, but in any city with regard to which you receive a tradition from your ancestors that it was surrounded by a wall from the days of Joshua, son of Nun, all these mitzvot with regard to walled cities are observed in it, due to the fact that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and sanctified them forever. The Gemara comments: This is difficult, as there is a contradiction between one statement of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei and another statement of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei.

אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: תְּרֵי תַּנָּאֵי אַלִּיבָּא דְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי; אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: חֲדָא מִינַּיְיהוּ רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בַּר יוֹסֵי אַמְרַהּ. דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בַּר יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: ״אֲשֶׁר לוֹא חֹמָה״ – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין לוֹ עַכְשָׁיו וְהָיָה לוֹ קוֹדֶם לָכֵן.

The Gemara answers: If you wish, say that there are two tanna’im who disagree with regard to the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei. Each transmitted Rabbi Yishmael’s opinion in a different manner. And if you wish, say instead that one of the traditions is mistaken, as one of the baraitot was stated by Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei, and not his brother, Rabbi Yishmael. As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei says that the verse with regard to walled cities states: “Which has [lo] a wall” (Leviticus 25:30). The word lo is written with an alef, meaning no, and accordingly the verse would be stating to the contrary, that the city does not have a wall, but its vocalization is in the sense of its homonym, lo with a vav, meaning that it has a wall. This indicates that even if it does not presently have a wall but it had a wall previously, it retains its status as a walled city. It is Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei who maintains that the first consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem forever.

נִטְמָא בָּעֲזָרָה וְנֶעֶלְמָה מִמֶּנּוּ טוּמְאָה וְכוּ׳. טוּמְאָה בַּעֲזָרָה מְנָלַן? אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר, כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״אֶת מִשְׁכַּן ה׳ טִמֵּא״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״כִּי אֶת מִקְדַּשׁ ה׳ טִמֵּא״; אִם אֵינוֹ עִנְיָן לְטוּמְאָה שֶׁבַּחוּץ, תְּנֵהוּ עִנְיָן לְטוּמְאָה שֶׁבִּפְנִים.

§ The mishna teaches about one who was ritually pure when he entered the Temple but who became impure while in the Temple courtyard, and afterward his impurity was hidden from him. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive that one is liable even if he contracted impurity in the Temple courtyard and failed to leave immediately by way of the shortest route, and not only if he entered the Temple courtyard when he was already impure? Rabbi Elazar says: One verse states: “He has defiled the Tabernacle of the Lord” (Numbers 19:13), and one verse states: “For he has defiled the Temple of the Lord” (Numbers 19:20). If this second verse is not needed for the matter of one who contracted impurity outside before he entered the Temple courtyard, as this situation is already referred to in the previous verse, apply it to the matter of one who contracted impurity inside the Temple courtyard.

וּקְרָאֵי מְיַתְּרִי?! הָא מִיצְרָךְ צְרִיכִי! דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: אִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, לָמָּה נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״? וְאִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, לָמָּה נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״? אִילּוּ נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״ וְלֹא נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, הָיִיתִי אוֹמֵר: עַל מִשְׁכָּן יְהֵא חַיָּיב – שֶׁהֲרֵי מָשׁוּחַ בְּשֶׁמֶן הַמִּשְׁחָה, וְעַל מִקְדָּשׁ לֹא יְהֵא חַיָּיב. וְאִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ וְלֹא נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, הָיִיתִי אוֹמֵר: עַל מִקְדָּשׁ יְהֵא חַיָּיב – שֶׁהֲרֵי קְדוּשָּׁתוֹ קְדוּשַּׁת עוֹלָם, וְעַל מִשְׁכָּן לֹא יְהֵא חַיָּיב. לְכָךְ נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, לְכָךְ נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״.

The Gemara asks: But is it really superfluous to have both of these verses, one having been sufficient? Aren’t they each necessary to teach a novel ruling? As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Elazar says: If it is stated: “Tabernacle,” why does it state: “Temple”? And if it is stated: “Temple,” why does it state: “Tabernacle”? He explains: Had the verse stated only: “Tabernacle,” and not stated: “Temple,” I would have said that one is liable for entering the Tabernacle in a state of impurity, since it was anointed with the anointing oil, and therefore it carries greater sanctity, but he is not liable for entering the Temple, which was not anointed with the anointing oil. And had the verse stated only: “Temple,” and not stated: “Tabernacle,” I would have said that one is liable for entering the Temple in a state of impurity, since its sanctity is an eternal sanctity, but he is not liable for entering the Tabernacle, whose sanctity was only for its time. For this reason, it is stated: “Tabernacle,” and for this reason, it is stated: “Temple.”

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר הָכִי קָא קַשְׁיָא לֵיהּ: מִכְּדִי מִשְׁכָּן אִיקְּרִי ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ וּמִקְדָּשׁ אִיקְּרִי ״מִשְׁכָּן״; נִכְתּוֹב אוֹ אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, אוֹ אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי ״מִשְׁכָּן״! ״מִשְׁכָּן״ וּ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ לְמָה לִי? שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ תַּרְתֵּי.

The Gemara answers: Rabbi Elazar did not base his derivation on a superfluous verse, but on the change in wording between the two verses. This is what is difficult for him: Since the Tabernacle is also called Temple and the Temple is also called Tabernacle, then let the verse write either in both verses: Temple, or in both verses: Tabernacle; why do I need both “Tabernacle” and “Temple”? Conclude two conclusions from it, i.e., that one is liable even for impurity contracted inside the grounds, and that the halakha applies both in the Tabernacle and in the Temple.

בִּשְׁלָמָא מִקְדָּשׁ אִיקְּרִי מִשְׁכָּן – דִּכְתִיב: ״וְנָתַתִּי מִשְׁכָּנִי בְּתוֹכְכֶם״; אֶלָּא מִשְׁכָּן דְּאִיקְּרִי מִקְדָּשׁ – מְנָלַן? אִילֵּימָא מִדִּכְתִיב: ״וְנָסְעוּ הַקְּהָתִים נֹשְׂאֵי הַמִּקְדָּשׁ״ – הָהוּא בְּאָרוֹן כְּתִיב! אֶלָּא מֵהָכָא: ״וְעָשׂוּ לִי מִקְדָּשׁ וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְּתוֹכָם״, וּכְתִיב: ״כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר אֲנִי מַרְאֶה אוֹתְךָ אֵת תַּבְנִית הַמִּשְׁכָּן״.

The Gemara questions its previous assumption: Granted, the Temple is also called Tabernacle, as it is written: “And I will set My Tabernacle among you” (Leviticus 26:11), where the reference is to the Temple, as the verse is referring to that which will transpire after the Jewish people have settled in their land. But from where do we derive that the Tabernacle is also called Temple? If we say that it is derived from that which is written: “And the Kehatites, the bearers of the Temple, set forward” (Numbers 10:21), that instance of the term Temple is not written with regard to the Tabernacle; rather, it is written with regard to the Ark and the other sacred vessels. Rather, it is derived from here: “And let them make Me a Temple, that I may dwell among them” (Exodus 25:8), where the reference is to the Tabernacle, as immediately afterward it is written: “According to all that I show you, the pattern of the Tabernacle” (Exodus 25:9).

וְהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה כְּדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה. אָמַר רָבָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים, אֲבָל הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי חוּץ – שָׁהָה אִין, לֹא שָׁהָה לָא.

§ The mishna teaches: If he bowed down, or he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, or he went out by way of a longer route when he could have taken a shorter route, he is liable to bring a sliding-scale offering. Rava says: They taught this only when he bowed down in the Temple courtyard facing inward, toward the Holy of Holies, as that alone is proper bowing. But if he bowed down facing outward, that is not considered bowing. When he bows facing outward, if he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, yes, he is liable, but if he did not tarry long enough to bow down, he is not liable.

אִיכָּא דְּמַתְנֵי לַהּ אַסֵּיפָא: אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה בִּכְדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה – מִכְּלַל דְּהִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה גּוּפַהּ בָּעֲיָא שְׁהִיָּיה; אָמַר רָבָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי חוּץ, אֲבָל כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים – אַף עַל גַּב דְּלֹא שָׁהָה. וְהָכִי קָאָמַר: הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים, אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה כְּדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה בְּהָךְ הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דִּכְלַפֵּי חוּץ – חַיָּיב.

There are those who teach the statement of Rava with regard to the latter clause: Or if he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, he is liable to bring a sliding-scale offering. It may be said by inference that bowing down itself entails tarrying, and the mere act of bowing does not render one liable. With regard to this Rava says: They taught this only when he bowed down facing outward. In such a case, he is liable only if he tarried long enough to bow down. But if he bowed down facing inward toward the Holy of Holies, he is liable even if he did not tarry for that length of time. And this is what the mishna is saying: If he bowed down facing inward, or if he tarried long enough to bow down while he was bowing down facing outward, he is liable.

הֵיכִי דָּמֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דְּאִית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה, וְהֵיכִי דָּמֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דְּלֵית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה? דְּלֵית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה – זוֹ כְּרִיעָה בְּעָלְמָא הִיא, דְּאִית בָּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה – פִּישּׁוּט יָדַיִם וְרַגְלַיִם.

The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of bowing in which there is tarrying, and what are the circumstances of bowing in which there is no tarrying? The Gemara answers: With regard to bowing in which there is no tarrying, that is merely kneeling. As for bowing in which there is tarrying, that is prostrating oneself while spreading one’s arms and legs in total submission.

וְכַמָּה שִׁיעוּר שְׁהִיָּיה? פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר נַחְמָנִי וְחַד דְּעִימֵּיהּ, וּמַנּוּ – רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן פַּזִּי; וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן פַּזִּי וְחַד דְּעִימֵּיהּ, וּמַנּוּ – רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר נַחְמָנִי, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר נַחְמָנִי. חַד אָמַר: כְּמֵימְרֵיהּ דְּהַאי פְּסוּקָא, וְחַד אָמַר: כְּמִ״וַּיִכְרְעוּ״ לְסֵיפָא. ״וְכֹל בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל רֹאִים בְּרֶדֶת הָאֵשׁ וּכְבוֹד ה׳ עַל הַבָּיִת, וַיִּכְרְעוּ אַפַּיִם אַרְצָה עַל הָרִצְפָה, וַיִּשְׁתַּחֲווּ וְהוֹדוֹת לַה׳ כִּי טוֹב כִּי לְעוֹלָם חַסְדּוֹ״.

The Gemara asks: And what is the measure of that tarrying? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar Naḥmani and one other Sage who was with him disagree about this. And who is that other scholar? Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi. And some say that it was Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi and one other Sage who was with him. And who is that other scholar? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar Naḥmani. And some say it was Rabbi Shimon bar Naḥmani. One Sage says: It is as long as the time it takes to recite this following verse in its entirety, and one Sage says: It is as long as the time it takes to recite from the term “and they bowed” in the middle of that verse until the end. What is the verse? “And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord upon the House, and they bowed with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and prostrated themselves, and praised the Lord, saying: For He is good, for His steadfast love endures forever” (II Chronicles 7:3).

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: קִידָּה – עַל אַפַּיִם, וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר: ״וַתִּקֹּד בַּת שֶׁבַע אַפַּיִם אֶרֶץ״. כְּרִיעָה – עַל בִּרְכַּיִם, וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר: ״מִכְּרֹעַ עַל בִּרְכָּיו״. הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה – זוֹ פִּישּׁוּט יָדַיִם וְרַגְלַיִם, וְכֵן אוֹמֵר: ״הֲבוֹא נָבוֹא אֲנִי וְאִמְּךָ וְאַחֶיךָ לְהִשְׁתַּחֲוֹת לְךָ אָרְצָה״.

The Gemara discusses the different forms of bowing in greater detail. The Sages taught: The term kidda indicates falling upon one’s face, and so the verse states: “Then Bathsheba bowed [vatikkod] with her face to the ground” (I Kings 1:31). Keria means descending upon one’s knees, and so the verse states with regard to Solomon: “He rose from before the altar of the Lord, from kneeling [mikero’a] upon his knees” (I Kings 8:54). Hishtaḥava’a, this is prostrating oneself while spreading one’s arms and legs in total submission, and so the verse states that Jacob asked, in response to Joseph’s relating of his dream: “Shall I and your mother and your brothers indeed come to bow down [lehishtaḥavot] to you to the ground” (Genesis 37:10), i.e., spread out completely on the ground.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: צָרִיךְ שְׁהִיָּיה לְמַלְקוּת, אוֹ אֵין צָרִיךְ שְׁהִיָּיה לְמַלְקוּת? לְקׇרְבָּן גְּמִירִי שְׁהִיָּיה, לְמַלְקוּת לָא גְּמִירִי שְׁהִיָּיה;

§ Rava raises a dilemma: Is tarrying long enough to bow down necessary to incur lashes? If one was warned not to remain in the Temple courtyard in a state of impurity, is he liable to receive lashes only if he remains there long enough to bow down, completely spread out on the ground? Or is tarrying not necessary to incur lashes, and he is immediately liable to receive lashes? The Gemara clarifies the two possibilities: Is it learned as a tradition that tarrying is necessary in order to incur liability to bring an offering, but not learned as a tradition that tarrying is necessary to become liable to receive lashes?

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Gitta Jaroslawicz-Neufeld
Gitta Jaroslawicz-Neufeld

Far Rockaway, United States

Retirement and Covid converged to provide me with the opportunity to commit to daily Talmud study in October 2020. I dove into the middle of Eruvin and continued to navigate Seder Moed, with Rabannit Michelle as my guide. I have developed more confidence in my learning as I completed each masechet and look forward to completing the Daf Yomi cycle so that I can begin again!

Rhona Fink
Rhona Fink

San Diego, United States

I started learning Daf Yomi in January 2020 after watching my grandfather, Mayer Penstein z”l, finish shas with the previous cycle. My grandfather made learning so much fun was so proud that his grandchildren wanted to join him. I was also inspired by Ilana Kurshan’s book, If All the Seas Were Ink. Two years in, I can say that it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Leeza Hirt Wilner
Leeza Hirt Wilner

New York, United States

When the new cycle began, I thought, If not now, when? I’d just turned 72. I feel like a tourist on a tour bus passing astonishing scenery each day. Rabbanit Michelle is my beloved tour guide. When the cycle ends, I’ll be 80. I pray that I’ll have strength and mind to continue the journey to glimpse a little more. My grandchildren think having a daf-learning savta is cool!

Wendy Dickstein
Wendy Dickstein

Jerusalem, Israel

I read Ilana Kurshan’s “If All the Seas Were Ink” which inspired me. Then the Women’s Siyum in Jerusalem in 2020 convinced me, I knew I had to join! I have loved it- it’s been a constant in my life daily, many of the sugiyot connect to our lives. My family and friends all are so supportive. It’s incredible being part of this community and love how diverse it is! I am so excited to learn more!

Shira Jacobowitz
Shira Jacobowitz

Jerusalem, Israel

Attending the Siyyum in Jerusalem 26 months ago inspired me to become part of this community of learners. So many aspects of Jewish life have been illuminated by what we have learned in Seder Moed. My day is not complete without daf Yomi. I am so grateful to Rabbanit Michelle and the Hadran Community.

Nancy Kolodny
Nancy Kolodny

Newton, United States

With Rabbanit Dr. Naomi Cohen in the Women’s Talmud class, over 30 years ago. It was a “known” class and it was accepted, because of who taught. Since then I have also studied with Avigail Gross-Gelman and Dr. Gabriel Hazut for about a year). Years ago, in a shiur in my shul, I did know about Persians doing 3 things with their clothes on. They opened the shiur to woman after that!

Sharon Mink
Sharon Mink

Haifa, Israel

I learned Talmud as a student in Yeshivat Ramaz and felt at the time that Talmud wasn’t for me. After reading Ilana Kurshan’s book I was intrigued and after watching the great siyum in Yerushalayim it ignited the spark to begin this journey. It has been a transformative life experience for me as a wife, mother, Savta and member of Klal Yisrael.
Elana Storch
Elana Storch

Phoenix, Arizona, United States

In early 2020, I began the process of a stem cell transplant. The required extreme isolation forced me to leave work and normal life but gave me time to delve into Jewish text study. I did not feel isolated. I began Daf Yomi at the start of this cycle, with family members joining me online from my hospital room. I’ve used my newly granted time to to engage, grow and connect through this learning.

Reena Slovin
Reena Slovin

Worcester, United States

Inspired by Hadran’s first Siyum ha Shas L’Nashim two years ago, I began daf yomi right after for the next cycle. As to this extraordinary journey together with Hadran..as TS Eliot wrote “We must not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we began and to know the place for the first time.

Susan Handelman
Susan Handelman

Jerusalem, Israel

תמיד רציתי. למדתי גמרא בבית ספר בטורונטו קנדה. עליתי ארצה ולמדתי שזה לא מקובל. הופתעתי.
יצאתי לגימלאות לפני שנתיים וזה מאפשר את המחוייבות לדף יומי.
עבורי ההתמדה בלימוד מעגן אותי בקשר שלי ליהדות. אני תמיד מחפשת ותמיד. מוצאת מקור לקשר. ללימוד חדש ומחדש. קשר עם נשים לומדות מעמיק את החוויה ומשמעותית מאוד.

Vitti Kones
Vitti Kones

מיתר, ישראל

I tried Daf Yomi in the middle of the last cycle after realizing I could listen to Michelle’s shiurim online. It lasted all of 2 days! Then the new cycle started just days before my father’s first yahrzeit and my youngest daughter’s bat mitzvah. It seemed the right time for a new beginning. My family, friends, colleagues are immensely supportive!

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Catriella Freedman

Zichron Yaakov, Israel

A beautiful world of Talmudic sages now fill my daily life with discussion and debate.
bringing alive our traditions and texts that has brought new meaning to my life.
I am a מגילת אסתר reader for women . the words in the Mishna of מסכת megillah 17a
הקורא את המגילה למפרע לא יצא were powerful to me.
I hope to have the zchut to complete the cycle for my 70th birthday.

Sheila Hauser
Sheila Hauser

Jerusalem, Israel

Shevuot 16

עַל פִּי נָבִיא נֶאֱכֶלֶת וְעַל פִּי נָבִיא נִשְׂרֶפֶת.

Based on a ruling of a prophet the loaves of one thanks-offering were eaten, and based on a ruling of a prophet the loaves of the other thanks-offering were burned. The prophets Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi, who lived at the time of Ezra and Nehemiah’s reconsecration of Jerusalem, instructed the people concerning how the ceremony should be conducted, without providing reasons for the procedures.

כֹּל שֶׁלֹּא נַעֲשֵׂית בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ כּוּ׳. אִיתְּמַר, רַב הוּנָא אָמַר: ״בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן, רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן.

§ The mishna teaches: And with regard to any addition to the Temple that was not made with all these ceremonial procedures, one who enters there while ritually impure is not liable. It was stated that amora’im disagreed about the text of the mishna. Rav Huna says: We learned in the mishna: With all these, which means that all of these procedures are indispensable, and if even one is missing, the consecration does not take effect. Rav Naḥman says: We learned in the mishna: With one of all these; i.e., any one of these procedures suffices for the consecration to take effect.

רַב הוּנָא אָמַר ״בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן – קָסָבַר קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וְעֶזְרָא זֵכֶר בְּעָלְמָא הוּא דַּעֲבַד.

The Gemara further clarifies this disagreement. Rav Huna says: We learned in the mishna: With all these. The Gemara explains: He maintains that the initial consecration of the Temple in the days of David and Solomon sanctified it for its time and sanctified it forever. Therefore, the site of the Temple retained its original sanctity even during the days of the Second Temple. And Ezra, who reconsecrated the area, did so merely as a commemoration of the initial consecration. Accordingly, even though there was no king or Urim VeTummim, the entire area was fully consecrated. By contrast, in order to consecrate an area that had not been part of the initial consecration, all of these procedures are necessary and none can be omitted.

רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״ תְּנַן – קָסָבַר: קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְלֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וְעֶזְרָא קַדּוֹשֵׁי קַדֵּישׁ אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא הֲווֹ אוּרִים וְתוּמִּים.

Rav Naḥman says: We learned in the mishna: With one of all these. The Gemara explains: He maintains that the initial consecration of the Temple sanctified it for its time only, and did not sanctify it forever. And Ezra consecrated the Temple and its courtyards, even though there was no king or Urim VeTummim. Consequently, it follows that there is no need for all of these procedures in order for the consecration to take effect.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רָבָא לְרַב נַחְמָן: ״כֹּל שֶׁלֹּא נַעֲשֵׂית בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ״! תָּנֵי: ״בְּאַחַת מִכׇּל אֵלּוּ״.

Rava raised an objection to Rav Naḥman: The mishna explicitly states: Any addition that was not made with all these procedures. Rav Naḥman said to him: Emend the mishna and teach it as stating: With one of all these procedures.

תָּא שְׁמַע, אַבָּא שָׁאוּל אוֹמֵר: שְׁנֵי בִּיצְעִין הָיוּ בְּהַר הַמִּשְׁחָה, תַּחְתּוֹנָה וְעֶלְיוֹנָה. תַּחְתּוֹנָה – נִתְקַדְּשָׁה בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ; עֶלְיוֹנָה – לֹא נִתְקַדְּשָׁה בְּכׇל אֵלּוּ, אֶלָּא בְּעוֹלֵי גוֹלָה; שֶׁלֹּא בְּמֶלֶךְ וְשֶׁלֹּא בְּאוּרִים וְתוּמִּים.

The Gemara cites a proof against the opinion of Rav Naḥman: Come and hear a baraita: Abba Shaul says: There were two ponds [bitzin] on the Mount of Olives [Har HaMishḥa], a lower pond and an upper pond. The lower pond was consecrated during the time of the First Temple with all the procedures mentioned in the mishna, and it has the sanctity of Jerusalem for all purposes. By contrast, the upper pond was not consecrated with all these procedures, but rather it was consecrated by those who returned from the exile in Babylonia, without a king and without the Urim VeTummim.

תַּחְתּוֹנָה שֶׁהָיְתָה קְדוּשָּׁתָהּ גְּמוּרָה – עַמֵּי הָאָרֶץ נִכְנָסִין לְשָׁם, וְאוֹכְלִין שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים אֲבָל לֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי; וַחֲבֵרִים אוֹכְלִים שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וּמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי.

The baraita continues: With regard to the lower pond, whose consecration was complete, amei ha’aretz, uneducated people who were not scrupulous in their observance of the mitzvot relating to tithes and to ritual purity, would enter into there and would partake of offerings of lesser sanctity that may be eaten in all of Jerusalem there, but they would not partake of second tithe there because they conducted themselves stringently concerning this matter. And ḥaverim, who were meticulous in their observance of those mitzvot, would partake of both offerings of lesser sanctity and second tithe there.

עֶלְיוֹנָה שֶׁלֹּא הָיְתָה קְדוּשָּׁתָהּ גְּמוּרָה – עַמֵּי הָאָרֶץ הָיוּ נִכְנָסִין שָׁם, וְאוֹכְלִין שָׁם קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים אֲבָל לֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי; וַחֲבֵרִים אֵין אוֹכְלִין שָׁם לֹא קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וְלֹא מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי. וּמִפְּנֵי מָה לֹא קִידְּשׁוּהָ? שֶׁאֵין מוֹסִיפִין עַל הָעִיר וְעַל הָעֲזָרוֹת אֶלָּא בְּמֶלֶךְ וְנָבִיא וְאוּרִים וְתוּמִּים, וּבְסַנְהֶדְרִין שֶׁל שִׁבְעִים וְאֶחָד, וּבִשְׁתֵּי תּוֹדוֹת וּבְשִׁיר.

The baraita continues: As for the upper pond, whose consecration was incomplete, amei ha’aretz would enter into there and partake of offerings of lesser sanctity there, but they would not partake of second tithe there. And ḥaverim would partake of neither offerings of lesser sanctity nor second tithe there. And for what reason did they not consecrate the upper pond? It was because additions can be made to the city of Jerusalem or to the Temple courtyards only by a special body comprising the king, a prophet, the Urim VeTummim, and the Sanhedrin of seventy-one, and with two thanks-offerings and with a special song.

וְלָמָּה קִידְּשׁוּהָ? לָמָּה קִידְּשׁוּהָ?! הָא אָמְרַתְּ לֹא קִידְּשׁוּהָ! אֶלָּא לָמָה הִכְנִיסוּהָ? מִפְּנֵי שֶׁתּוֹרְפָּהּ שֶׁל יְרוּשָׁלַיִם הָיְתָה, וְנוֹחָה הִיא לִיכָּבֵשׁ מִשָּׁם.

The Gemara asks: But why did they consecrate the upper pond if they could not do so properly? This Gemara responds: Why did they consecrate it? Didn’t you say that they did not consecrate it? Rather, the question should be asked as follows: Given that they could not consecrate the upper pond, why did they bring it within the walls of the city? The Gemara answers: Because it was a weak point [turpa] of Jerusalem and it would have been easy to conquer the city from there, it became necessary to include it within the wall. This baraita seems to present explicit proof against the opinion of Rav Naḥman, who holds that there is no need for all of the procedures listed in the mishna in order for the consecration to be complete.

תַּנָּאֵי הִיא; דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר: שָׁמַעְתִּי כְּשֶׁהָיוּ בּוֹנִין בַּהֵיכָל, עָשׂוּ קְלָעִים לַהֵיכָל וּקְלָעִים לָעֲזָרוֹת. אֶלָּא שֶׁבַּהֵיכָל בּוֹנִין מִבַּחוּץ, וּבָעֲזָרוֹת בּוֹנִין מִבִּפְנִים.

The Gemara rejects this proof: This is a dispute between tanna’im as to whether the initial consecration of Jerusalem and the Temple sanctified them only for their time or forever. Abba Shaul maintains that the initial consecration lapsed, and therefore the reconsecration required all of the procedures mentioned in the mishna. Where is this dispute taught? As it is taught in a mishna (Eduyyot 8:6): Rabbi Eliezer says: I heard that when they were building the Sanctuary in the Second Temple, they fashioned temporary curtains for the Sanctuary and temporary curtains for the courtyards to serve as partitions until the construction of the stone walls was completed. The difference was only that in the Sanctuary, the workers built the walls outside the curtains, without entering, and in the courtyards, the workers built the walls within the curtains.

אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: שָׁמַעְתִּי שֶׁמַּקְרִיבִין אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בַּיִת, אוֹכְלִין קׇדְשֵׁי קָדָשִׁים אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין קְלָעִים, קָדָשִׁים קַלִּים וּמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין חוֹמָה; מִפְּנֵי שֶׁקְּדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא. לָאו מִכְּלָל דְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר סָבַר: לֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא?

The mishna continues: Rabbi Yehoshua says: I heard that one sacrifices offerings on the altar even if there is no Temple, and one partakes of offerings of the most sacred order in the Temple courtyard even if there are no curtains, and one partakes of offerings of lesser sanctity and second-tithe produce in Jerusalem even if there is no wall surrounding the city. This is due to the fact that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and also sanctified them forever. The Gemara concludes: From the fact that Rabbi Yehoshua based his opinion on the principle that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem forever, can one not learn by inference that Rabbi Eliezer maintains that it did not sanctify them forever? Apparently, this issue is the subject of a dispute between tanna’im.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבִינָא לְרַב אָשֵׁי: מִמַּאי? דִּלְמָא דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, וּמָר מַאי דִּשְׁמִיעַ לֵיהּ קָאָמַר, וּמָר מַאי דִּשְׁמִיעַ לֵיהּ קָאָמַר. וְכִי תֵּימָא: קְלָעִים לְרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר לְמָה לִי? לִצְנִיעוּתָא בְּעָלְמָא.

Ravina said to Rav Ashi: From where do you draw this inference? Perhaps everyone maintains that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and also sanctified them forever. And one Sage, Rabbi Eliezer, stated that tradition, which he heard from his teachers, and one Sage, Rabbi Yehoshua, stated that tradition, which he heard from his teachers, and there is no dispute between them. And if you would say: Why do I need curtains at all according to Rabbi Eliezer? The original sanctity remained when Jerusalem was not surrounded by walls, and similarly, the presence or absence of curtains is irrelevant to the sanctity of the Temple area. The Gemara answers: The curtains were established merely for seclusion, as it would have been unbecoming for the activity in this most sacred venue to be visible to all.

אֶלָּא הָנֵי תַּנָּאֵי – דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: לָמָּה מָנוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת אֵלּוּ? שֶׁכְּשֶׁעָלוּ בְּנֵי הַגּוֹלָה, מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וְקִידְּשׁוּם. אֲבָל רִאשׁוֹנוֹת בָּטְלוּ מִשֶּׁבָּטְלָה הָאָרֶץ. אַלְמָא קָסָבַר: קְדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְלֹא קִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא.

Rather, this matter is subject to a dispute between these tanna’im, as it is taught in a baraita with regard to the walled cities listed in the mishna in tractate Arakhin (32a): Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, said: Why did the Sages enumerate specifically these nine cities as cities that were walled since the days of Joshua, son of Nun? In fact, there were many more. The reason is that when the exiles ascended to Eretz Yisrael from Babylonia in the time of Ezra, they found these cities and consecrated them as walled cities; but the sanctity of the first walled cities, enumerated in the book of Joshua, was nullified when settlement in Eretz Yisrael was negated and the Jewish people were exiled. The Gemara comments: Apparently, Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, maintains: The initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time only and did not sanctify them forever.

ורְמִינְהִי, אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: וְכִי אֵלּוּ בִּלְבַד הָיוּ?! וַהֲלֹא כְּבָר נֶאֱמַר: ״שִׁשִּׁים עִיר כׇּל חֶבֶל אַרְגֹּב מַמְלֶכֶת עוֹג בַּבָּשָׁן, כׇּל אֵלֶּה עָרִים בְּצֻרוֹת חוֹמָה גְבֹהָה״! אֶלָּא לָמָּה מָנוּ חֲכָמִים אֶת אֵלּוּ – שֶׁכְּשֶׁעָלוּ בְּנֵי הַגּוֹלָה מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וְקִידְּשׁוּם.

And the Gemara raises a contradiction from a different baraita: Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, says: Were these cities that are enumerated in tractate Arakhin the only walled cities? But isn’t it already stated: “Sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og, king of Bashan, all these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars” (Deuteronomy 3:4–5), indicating that there were many walled cities in the time of Joshua? Rather, why then did the Sages enumerate specifically these cities? It is due to the fact that when the exiles ascended from Babylonia they found these and consecrated them as walled cities.

קִידְּשׁוּם הַשְׁתָּא?! הָא אָמְרִינַן לְקַמַּן דְּלָא צְרִיכָא לְקַדּוֹשֵׁי! אֶלָּא מָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ וּמְנָאוּם.

The Gemara asks: They consecrated them? If their sanctity remained, it should not have been necessary to consecrate them. Now, don’t we say later in the same baraita that it is not necessary to consecrate them? The Gemara clarifies: Rather, this is what the baraita means to say: When the exiles ascended from Babylonia they found these and enumerated them.

וְלֹא אֵלּוּ בִּלְבַד, אֶלָּא כׇּל שֶׁתַּעֲלֶה בְּיָדְךָ מָסוֹרֶת מֵאֲבוֹתֶיךָ שֶׁמּוּקֶּפֶת חוֹמָה מִימוֹת יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בִּן נוּן – כׇּל מִצְוֹת אֵלּוּ נוֹהֲגוֹת בָּהּ, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁקְּדוּשָּׁה רִאשׁוֹנָה קִידְּשָׁה לִשְׁעָתָהּ וְקִידְּשָׁה לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא. קַשְׁיָא דְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי אַדְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי!

The baraita continues: And not only these, but in any city with regard to which you receive a tradition from your ancestors that it was surrounded by a wall from the days of Joshua, son of Nun, all these mitzvot with regard to walled cities are observed in it, due to the fact that the initial consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem for their time and sanctified them forever. The Gemara comments: This is difficult, as there is a contradiction between one statement of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei and another statement of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei.

אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: תְּרֵי תַּנָּאֵי אַלִּיבָּא דְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בַּר יוֹסֵי; אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: חֲדָא מִינַּיְיהוּ רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בַּר יוֹסֵי אַמְרַהּ. דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בַּר יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: ״אֲשֶׁר לוֹא חֹמָה״ – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין לוֹ עַכְשָׁיו וְהָיָה לוֹ קוֹדֶם לָכֵן.

The Gemara answers: If you wish, say that there are two tanna’im who disagree with regard to the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael bar Yosei. Each transmitted Rabbi Yishmael’s opinion in a different manner. And if you wish, say instead that one of the traditions is mistaken, as one of the baraitot was stated by Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei, and not his brother, Rabbi Yishmael. As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei says that the verse with regard to walled cities states: “Which has [lo] a wall” (Leviticus 25:30). The word lo is written with an alef, meaning no, and accordingly the verse would be stating to the contrary, that the city does not have a wall, but its vocalization is in the sense of its homonym, lo with a vav, meaning that it has a wall. This indicates that even if it does not presently have a wall but it had a wall previously, it retains its status as a walled city. It is Rabbi Elazar bar Yosei who maintains that the first consecration sanctified the Temple and Jerusalem forever.

נִטְמָא בָּעֲזָרָה וְנֶעֶלְמָה מִמֶּנּוּ טוּמְאָה וְכוּ׳. טוּמְאָה בַּעֲזָרָה מְנָלַן? אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר, כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״אֶת מִשְׁכַּן ה׳ טִמֵּא״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״כִּי אֶת מִקְדַּשׁ ה׳ טִמֵּא״; אִם אֵינוֹ עִנְיָן לְטוּמְאָה שֶׁבַּחוּץ, תְּנֵהוּ עִנְיָן לְטוּמְאָה שֶׁבִּפְנִים.

§ The mishna teaches about one who was ritually pure when he entered the Temple but who became impure while in the Temple courtyard, and afterward his impurity was hidden from him. The Gemara asks: From where do we derive that one is liable even if he contracted impurity in the Temple courtyard and failed to leave immediately by way of the shortest route, and not only if he entered the Temple courtyard when he was already impure? Rabbi Elazar says: One verse states: “He has defiled the Tabernacle of the Lord” (Numbers 19:13), and one verse states: “For he has defiled the Temple of the Lord” (Numbers 19:20). If this second verse is not needed for the matter of one who contracted impurity outside before he entered the Temple courtyard, as this situation is already referred to in the previous verse, apply it to the matter of one who contracted impurity inside the Temple courtyard.

וּקְרָאֵי מְיַתְּרִי?! הָא מִיצְרָךְ צְרִיכִי! דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: אִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, לָמָּה נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״? וְאִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, לָמָּה נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״? אִילּוּ נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״ וְלֹא נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, הָיִיתִי אוֹמֵר: עַל מִשְׁכָּן יְהֵא חַיָּיב – שֶׁהֲרֵי מָשׁוּחַ בְּשֶׁמֶן הַמִּשְׁחָה, וְעַל מִקְדָּשׁ לֹא יְהֵא חַיָּיב. וְאִם נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ וְלֹא נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, הָיִיתִי אוֹמֵר: עַל מִקְדָּשׁ יְהֵא חַיָּיב – שֶׁהֲרֵי קְדוּשָּׁתוֹ קְדוּשַּׁת עוֹלָם, וְעַל מִשְׁכָּן לֹא יְהֵא חַיָּיב. לְכָךְ נֶאֱמַר ״מִשְׁכָּן״, לְכָךְ נֶאֱמַר ״מִקְדָּשׁ״.

The Gemara asks: But is it really superfluous to have both of these verses, one having been sufficient? Aren’t they each necessary to teach a novel ruling? As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Elazar says: If it is stated: “Tabernacle,” why does it state: “Temple”? And if it is stated: “Temple,” why does it state: “Tabernacle”? He explains: Had the verse stated only: “Tabernacle,” and not stated: “Temple,” I would have said that one is liable for entering the Tabernacle in a state of impurity, since it was anointed with the anointing oil, and therefore it carries greater sanctity, but he is not liable for entering the Temple, which was not anointed with the anointing oil. And had the verse stated only: “Temple,” and not stated: “Tabernacle,” I would have said that one is liable for entering the Temple in a state of impurity, since its sanctity is an eternal sanctity, but he is not liable for entering the Tabernacle, whose sanctity was only for its time. For this reason, it is stated: “Tabernacle,” and for this reason, it is stated: “Temple.”

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר הָכִי קָא קַשְׁיָא לֵיהּ: מִכְּדִי מִשְׁכָּן אִיקְּרִי ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ וּמִקְדָּשׁ אִיקְּרִי ״מִשְׁכָּן״; נִכְתּוֹב אוֹ אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי ״מִקְדָּשׁ״, אוֹ אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי ״מִשְׁכָּן״! ״מִשְׁכָּן״ וּ״מִקְדָּשׁ״ לְמָה לִי? שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ תַּרְתֵּי.

The Gemara answers: Rabbi Elazar did not base his derivation on a superfluous verse, but on the change in wording between the two verses. This is what is difficult for him: Since the Tabernacle is also called Temple and the Temple is also called Tabernacle, then let the verse write either in both verses: Temple, or in both verses: Tabernacle; why do I need both “Tabernacle” and “Temple”? Conclude two conclusions from it, i.e., that one is liable even for impurity contracted inside the grounds, and that the halakha applies both in the Tabernacle and in the Temple.

בִּשְׁלָמָא מִקְדָּשׁ אִיקְּרִי מִשְׁכָּן – דִּכְתִיב: ״וְנָתַתִּי מִשְׁכָּנִי בְּתוֹכְכֶם״; אֶלָּא מִשְׁכָּן דְּאִיקְּרִי מִקְדָּשׁ – מְנָלַן? אִילֵּימָא מִדִּכְתִיב: ״וְנָסְעוּ הַקְּהָתִים נֹשְׂאֵי הַמִּקְדָּשׁ״ – הָהוּא בְּאָרוֹן כְּתִיב! אֶלָּא מֵהָכָא: ״וְעָשׂוּ לִי מִקְדָּשׁ וְשָׁכַנְתִּי בְּתוֹכָם״, וּכְתִיב: ״כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר אֲנִי מַרְאֶה אוֹתְךָ אֵת תַּבְנִית הַמִּשְׁכָּן״.

The Gemara questions its previous assumption: Granted, the Temple is also called Tabernacle, as it is written: “And I will set My Tabernacle among you” (Leviticus 26:11), where the reference is to the Temple, as the verse is referring to that which will transpire after the Jewish people have settled in their land. But from where do we derive that the Tabernacle is also called Temple? If we say that it is derived from that which is written: “And the Kehatites, the bearers of the Temple, set forward” (Numbers 10:21), that instance of the term Temple is not written with regard to the Tabernacle; rather, it is written with regard to the Ark and the other sacred vessels. Rather, it is derived from here: “And let them make Me a Temple, that I may dwell among them” (Exodus 25:8), where the reference is to the Tabernacle, as immediately afterward it is written: “According to all that I show you, the pattern of the Tabernacle” (Exodus 25:9).

וְהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה כְּדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה. אָמַר רָבָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים, אֲבָל הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי חוּץ – שָׁהָה אִין, לֹא שָׁהָה לָא.

§ The mishna teaches: If he bowed down, or he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, or he went out by way of a longer route when he could have taken a shorter route, he is liable to bring a sliding-scale offering. Rava says: They taught this only when he bowed down in the Temple courtyard facing inward, toward the Holy of Holies, as that alone is proper bowing. But if he bowed down facing outward, that is not considered bowing. When he bows facing outward, if he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, yes, he is liable, but if he did not tarry long enough to bow down, he is not liable.

אִיכָּא דְּמַתְנֵי לַהּ אַסֵּיפָא: אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה בִּכְדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה – מִכְּלַל דְּהִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה גּוּפַהּ בָּעֲיָא שְׁהִיָּיה; אָמַר רָבָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁהִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי חוּץ, אֲבָל כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים – אַף עַל גַּב דְּלֹא שָׁהָה. וְהָכִי קָאָמַר: הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה כְּלַפֵּי פְנִים, אוֹ שֶׁשָּׁהָה כְּדֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה בְּהָךְ הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דִּכְלַפֵּי חוּץ – חַיָּיב.

There are those who teach the statement of Rava with regard to the latter clause: Or if he tarried in the Temple courtyard long enough to bow down, he is liable to bring a sliding-scale offering. It may be said by inference that bowing down itself entails tarrying, and the mere act of bowing does not render one liable. With regard to this Rava says: They taught this only when he bowed down facing outward. In such a case, he is liable only if he tarried long enough to bow down. But if he bowed down facing inward toward the Holy of Holies, he is liable even if he did not tarry for that length of time. And this is what the mishna is saying: If he bowed down facing inward, or if he tarried long enough to bow down while he was bowing down facing outward, he is liable.

הֵיכִי דָּמֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דְּאִית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה, וְהֵיכִי דָּמֵי הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה דְּלֵית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה? דְּלֵית בַּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה – זוֹ כְּרִיעָה בְּעָלְמָא הִיא, דְּאִית בָּהּ שְׁהִיָּיה – פִּישּׁוּט יָדַיִם וְרַגְלַיִם.

The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of bowing in which there is tarrying, and what are the circumstances of bowing in which there is no tarrying? The Gemara answers: With regard to bowing in which there is no tarrying, that is merely kneeling. As for bowing in which there is tarrying, that is prostrating oneself while spreading one’s arms and legs in total submission.

וְכַמָּה שִׁיעוּר שְׁהִיָּיה? פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר נַחְמָנִי וְחַד דְּעִימֵּיהּ, וּמַנּוּ – רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן פַּזִּי; וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן פַּזִּי וְחַד דְּעִימֵּיהּ, וּמַנּוּ – רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר נַחְמָנִי, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר נַחְמָנִי. חַד אָמַר: כְּמֵימְרֵיהּ דְּהַאי פְּסוּקָא, וְחַד אָמַר: כְּמִ״וַּיִכְרְעוּ״ לְסֵיפָא. ״וְכֹל בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל רֹאִים בְּרֶדֶת הָאֵשׁ וּכְבוֹד ה׳ עַל הַבָּיִת, וַיִּכְרְעוּ אַפַּיִם אַרְצָה עַל הָרִצְפָה, וַיִּשְׁתַּחֲווּ וְהוֹדוֹת לַה׳ כִּי טוֹב כִּי לְעוֹלָם חַסְדּוֹ״.

The Gemara asks: And what is the measure of that tarrying? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar Naḥmani and one other Sage who was with him disagree about this. And who is that other scholar? Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi. And some say that it was Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi and one other Sage who was with him. And who is that other scholar? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar Naḥmani. And some say it was Rabbi Shimon bar Naḥmani. One Sage says: It is as long as the time it takes to recite this following verse in its entirety, and one Sage says: It is as long as the time it takes to recite from the term “and they bowed” in the middle of that verse until the end. What is the verse? “And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord upon the House, and they bowed with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and prostrated themselves, and praised the Lord, saying: For He is good, for His steadfast love endures forever” (II Chronicles 7:3).

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: קִידָּה – עַל אַפַּיִם, וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר: ״וַתִּקֹּד בַּת שֶׁבַע אַפַּיִם אֶרֶץ״. כְּרִיעָה – עַל בִּרְכַּיִם, וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר: ״מִכְּרֹעַ עַל בִּרְכָּיו״. הִשְׁתַּחֲוָאָה – זוֹ פִּישּׁוּט יָדַיִם וְרַגְלַיִם, וְכֵן אוֹמֵר: ״הֲבוֹא נָבוֹא אֲנִי וְאִמְּךָ וְאַחֶיךָ לְהִשְׁתַּחֲוֹת לְךָ אָרְצָה״.

The Gemara discusses the different forms of bowing in greater detail. The Sages taught: The term kidda indicates falling upon one’s face, and so the verse states: “Then Bathsheba bowed [vatikkod] with her face to the ground” (I Kings 1:31). Keria means descending upon one’s knees, and so the verse states with regard to Solomon: “He rose from before the altar of the Lord, from kneeling [mikero’a] upon his knees” (I Kings 8:54). Hishtaḥava’a, this is prostrating oneself while spreading one’s arms and legs in total submission, and so the verse states that Jacob asked, in response to Joseph’s relating of his dream: “Shall I and your mother and your brothers indeed come to bow down [lehishtaḥavot] to you to the ground” (Genesis 37:10), i.e., spread out completely on the ground.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: צָרִיךְ שְׁהִיָּיה לְמַלְקוּת, אוֹ אֵין צָרִיךְ שְׁהִיָּיה לְמַלְקוּת? לְקׇרְבָּן גְּמִירִי שְׁהִיָּיה, לְמַלְקוּת לָא גְּמִירִי שְׁהִיָּיה;

§ Rava raises a dilemma: Is tarrying long enough to bow down necessary to incur lashes? If one was warned not to remain in the Temple courtyard in a state of impurity, is he liable to receive lashes only if he remains there long enough to bow down, completely spread out on the ground? Or is tarrying not necessary to incur lashes, and he is immediately liable to receive lashes? The Gemara clarifies the two possibilities: Is it learned as a tradition that tarrying is necessary in order to incur liability to bring an offering, but not learned as a tradition that tarrying is necessary to become liable to receive lashes?

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