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Bava Batra 31

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The Gemara brings several cases that came before the courts regarding property ownership claims. In the first case, Rava ruled that the possessor’s claim is believed since if the possessor was lying, he could have made a better claim (ma li l’shaker). But Abaye said this wasn’t accepted as witnesses testified against the claim and a ma li l’shaker isn’t accepted in this situation. After that, the possessor modified his claim. Can one modify one’s claim? Ulla and the rabbis of Nehardea disagreed regarding this issue. In which cases did each side acquiesce to the other?

Rava and Rav Nachman disagreed in a case where part of the testimony was contradicted by other testimony but the other part wasn’t. Is the entire claim canceled, or is the part that wasn’t contradicted still valid? In that same case, new evidence was brought that contradicted the court’s ruling. Should the court reverse its decision and take the land away, or should the court stick with its original decision to prevent people from losing respect for the courts?

Bava Batra 31

אֲבָל שֵׁית – אֵין לְךָ מֶחָאָה גְּדוֹלָה מִזּוֹ.

But if he profited from the land for only six years, so that the sale to the claimant took place before the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership were completed, you can have no greater protest than this, that the purported seller then sold the land to another. By doing so he indicated that he does not concede that the possessor was the rightful owner, and the possessor should have been careful to hold on to his bill of sale for even longer than three years.

זֶה אוֹמֵר: ״שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי״, וְזֶה אוֹמֵר: ״שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי״; הַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ הִיא, וְהַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דְּאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה –

There was an incident where two people disputed the ownership of land. This one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them, and that one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them. This one brings witnesses that the land belonged to his ancestors, and that one brings witnesses that he currently possesses the land and that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

אָמַר רַבָּה: מָה לוֹ לְשַׁקֵּר? אִי בָּעֵי אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מִינָּךְ זְבֵנְתַּהּ וַאֲכַלְתִּיהָ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: ״מָה לִי לְשַׁקֵּר״ בִּמְקוֹם עֵדִים – לָא אָמְרִינַן.

Rabba said: The judgment is in favor of the possessor, due to the legal principle that if the judgment would have been decided in one’s favor had he advanced a certain claim, and he instead advanced a different claim that leads to the same ruling, he has credibility, as why would he lie and state this claim? If the possessor wanted to lie, he could have said to the claimant: I purchased the land from you and I worked and profited from it for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership, in which case he would have been awarded the land. Abaye said to Rabba: We do not say the principle of: Why would I lie, in a case where there are witnesses contradicting his current claim, as they testify that the land belonged to the ancestors of the claimant. Therefore, he should not be awarded the land.

הֲדַר אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין, דַּאֲבָהָתָךְ הִיא – וּזְבֵנְתַּהּ מִינָּךְ; וְהַאי דַּאֲמַרִי לָךְ דַּאֲבָהָתִי, דִּסְמִיךְ לִי עֲלַהּ כְּדַאֲבָהָתִי.

The possessor then said to the claimant: Yes, it is true that it had belonged to your ancestors, but I purchased it from you, and by stating that which I said to you: It belonged to my ancestors, I merely meant that I rely upon my ownership of it as if it belonged to my ancestors, as I purchased it and then profited from it for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן, אוֹ אֵין טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן? עוּלָּא אָמַר: טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. נְהַרְדָּעֵי אָמְרִי: אֵינוֹ טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן.

The Gemara asks: Can he state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, or can he not state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim? Ulla said: He can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim. The Sages of Neharde’a say: He cannot state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim.

וּמוֹדֵי עוּלָּא הֵיכָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי וְלֹא שֶׁל אֲבוֹתֶיךָ – דְּאֵינוֹ טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהֵיכָא דַּהֲוָה קָאֵי בֵּי דִינָא וְלָא טְעַן, וַאֲתָא מֵאַבָּרַאי וּטְעַן – אֵינוֹ חוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. מַאי טַעְמָא? טַעְנְתֵיהּ אַגְמְרֵיהּ.

The Gemara clarifies their respective opinions: And Ulla concedes that in a case where he had initially said to him: The land belonged to my ancestors and did not belong to your ancestors, that he cannot state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, as Ulla allows the litigant only to reinterpret his initial claim, not to replace it with a contradictory claim. And Ulla also concedes that in a case where he was standing in court and did not state a particular claim, and he later came in from outside and back into the court and he stated that claim, that he cannot return and state that claim. What is the reason for this? It is because it is apparent that these claims of his were taught to him by someone after he left the court.

וּמוֹדוּ נְהַרְדָּעֵי הֵיכָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי שֶׁלְּקָחוּהָ מֵאֲבוֹתֶיךָ – דְּחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהֵיכָא דְּאִישְׁתַּעִי מִילֵּי אַבָּרַאי וְלָא טְעַן, וַאֲתָא לְבֵי דִינָא וּטְעַן – דְּחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. מַאי טַעְמָא? עֲבִיד אִינִישׁ דְּלָא מְגַלֵּי טַעְנְתֵיהּ אֶלָּא לְבֵי דִינָא.

And the Sages of Neharde’a concede that in a case where the litigant who changed his claim said to the other litigant that when he had initially claimed: The land belonged to my ancestors, he had actually meant: It belonged to my ancestors, who purchased it from your ancestors, that he can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, as this serves only to clarify, and not negate, his initial claim. And the Sages of Neharde’a also concede that in a case where he discussed the matter outside of the court and did not state a particular claim, and then he came in to the court and stated that claim, that he can return and state that claim. What is the reason for this? Because a person is apt not to reveal his claims except to the court.

אָמַר אַמֵּימָר: אֲנָא נְהַרְדָּעָא אֲנָא, וּסְבִירָא לִי דְּטוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהִלְכְתָא: טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן.

Ameimar said: I am from Neharde’a, but I nevertheless hold that a litigant can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim. The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is that a litigant can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim.

זֶה אוֹמֵר: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי, וְזֶה אוֹמֵר: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי; הַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ וְאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה, וְהַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דְּאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה.

In an incident where two people dispute the ownership of land, this one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them, and that one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them. The first one brings witnesses that the land belonged to his ancestors, and that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership. And the second one brings witnesses only that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: אוֹקִי אֲכִילָה לְבַהֲדֵי אֲכִילָה, וְאוֹקִי אַרְעָא בְּחֶזְקַת אֲבָהָתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא: הָא עֵדוּת מוּכְחֶשֶׁת הִיא! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: נְהִי דְּאִיתַּכְחַשׁ בַּאֲכִילְתָה,

Rav Naḥman said: Establish the testimony with regard to the profiting by the first litigant alongside the testimony with regard to the profiting by the second, and the two testimonies cancel each other out, leaving the testimony with regard to ownership by the ancestors of the first litigant. And therefore, establish the land in the presumptive ownership of the litigant who brought witnesses that it belonged to his ancestors. Rava objected and said to him: This testimony cannot be relied on, as it is contradicted by the other testimony. Rav Naḥman responded and said to him: Although it is so that the testimony was contradicted with regard to profiting from the land,

בַּאֲבָהָתָא מִי אִתַּכְחַשׁ?!

was the testimony contradicted with regard to ownership of the ancestors?

לֵימָא רָבָא וְרַב נַחְמָן – בִּפְלוּגְתָּא דְּרַב הוּנָא וְרַב חִסְדָּא קָמִיפַּלְגִי?

The Gemara asks: Shall we say that Rava and Rav Naḥman disagree in the dispute between Rav Huna and Rav Ḥisda?

דְּאִיתְּמַר: שְׁתֵּי כִּתֵּי עֵדִים הַמַּכְחִישׁוֹת זוֹ אֶת זוֹ – אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: זוֹ בָּאָה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ וּמְעִידָה, וְזוֹ בָּאָה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ וּמְעִידָה. וְרַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: בַּהֲדֵי סָהֲדֵי שַׁקָּרֵי לְמָה לִי? לֵימָא רַב נַחְמָן – דְּאָמַר כְּרַב הוּנָא, וְרָבָא כְּרַב חִסְדָּא?

As it was stated concerning two groups of witnesses that contradict each other, that Rav Huna says: This one comes to court on its own and testifies, and that one comes to court on its own and testifies. Despite the fact that one group certainly testified falsely, which should serve to disqualify one of the groups, each group is able to testify in another case. And Rav Ḥisda says: Why do I need these lying witnesses? In other words, they are all disqualified to testify in another case until it is clarified which of them had testified falsely. The Gemara asks: Shall we say that Rav Naḥman is the one who says his ruling in accordance with the opinion of Rav Huna, and Rava says his ruling in accordance with the opinion of Rav Ḥisda?

אַלִּיבָּא דְּרַב חִסְדָּא – כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְלִיגִי, כִּי פְּלִיגִי – אַלִּיבָּא דְרַב הוּנָא. רַב נַחְמָן – כְּרַב הוּנָא. וְרָבָא – עַד כָּאן לָא קָאָמַר רַב הוּנָא אֶלָּא לְעֵדוּת אַחֶרֶת, אֲבָל לְאוֹתָהּ עֵדוּת – לָא.

The Gemara explains: According to the opinion of Rav Ḥisda, who holds that the witnesses are disqualified, everyone agrees that the testimony concerning ancestral ownership is not accepted, as the witnesses were contradicted concerning their testimony of usage of the land, and Rav Naḥman’s ruling cannot accord with his opinion. When Rav Naḥman and Rava disagree it is according to the opinion of Rav Huna, who does not disqualify the witnesses. The ruling of Rav Naḥman is in accordance with the opinion of Rav Huna, and he therefore accepts the testimony with regard to ancestral ownership, and Rava would say: Rav Huna says that the witnesses are accepted only for another testimony, i.e., in a different case. But they are not accepted for the same testimony, as in this incident, where both testimonies concerned ownership of the same land.

הֲדַר אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ הִיא. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: אֲנַן אַחֲתִינֵּיהּ, אֲנַן מַסְּקִינַן לֵיהּ; לְזִילוּתָא דְבֵי דִינָא לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.

The Gemara relates the continuation of the case above. The one who had brought witnesses only to his having profited from the land then brought witnesses that it had belonged to his ancestors, thereby balancing the evidence for the two litigants. Therefore, Rav Naḥman said: We previously brought down to the land the one who initially had evidence of ancestral ownership to take possession of it, and we now bring him up from it, removing him from the land. And we are not concerned about the possible contempt of court that might result from perceived indecisiveness.

מֵתִיב רָבָא, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַבִּי זְעֵירָא: שְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים מֵת, וּשְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים לָא מֵת; שְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים נִתְגָּרְשָׁה, וּשְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים לֹא נִתְגָּרְשָׁה – הֲרֵי זוֹ לֹא תִּנָּשֵׂא, וְאִם נִשֵּׂאת לֹא תֵּצֵא. רַבִּי מְנַחֵם בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: תֵּצֵא.

Rava, and some say it is Rabbi Zeira, raises an objection from a baraita. If there was a married man whose fate was unknown, and two witnesses say: This married man died, and two witnesses say: He did not die; or if two witnesses say: This woman was divorced, and two witnesses say: She was not divorced, this woman may not marry, as there is not unequivocal testimony that she is no longer married, but if she marries, the marriage is valid and she need not leave her husband. Rabbi Menaḥem, son of Rabbi Yosei, says: She must leave her husband.

אָמַר רַבִּי מְנַחֵם בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: אֵימָתַי אֲנִי אוֹמֵר תֵּצֵא – בִּזְמַן שֶׁבָּאוּ עֵדִים וְאַחַר כָּךְ נִשֵּׂאת; אֲבָל נִשֵּׂאת וְאַחַר כָּךְ בָּאוּ עֵדִים – הֲרֵי זוֹ לֹא תֵּצֵא.

Rabbi Menaḥem, son of Rabbi Yosei, said: When do I say that she must leave her husband? She must leave him in a case where witnesses came to testify that she is still married and she then married despite their testimony. But if she married and the witnesses then came to testify that she is still married, this woman is not required to leave her husband based on the uncertainty created by contradictory witnesses. The fact that she is not required to leave her marriage in light of the new testimony seems to indicate an unwillingness to reverse the court’s ruling that she may marry, contrary to the ruling of Rav Naḥman.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא סְבַרִי לְמֶעְבַּד עוֹבָדָא; הַשְׁתָּא דְּאוֹתֵיבְתַּן אַתְּ, וְאוֹתְבַן רַב הַמְנוּנָא בְּסוּרְיָא – לָא עָבֵידְנָא בַּהּ עוֹבָדָא.

Rav Naḥman said to him: I had thought to perform an action and reverse the court’s ruling, but now that you raised an objection against me, and Rav Hamnuna also raised a similar objection against me in Syria, I will not perform an action in this matter.

נְפַק עֲבַד עוֹבָדָא. מַאן דַּחֲזָא, סָבַר: טָעוּתָא הִיא בִּידֵיהּ; וְלָא הִיא, אֶלָּא מִשּׁוּם דְּתַלְיָא בְּאַשְׁלֵי רַבְרְבֵי –

The Gemara relates that Rav Naḥman then went out and performed an action, taking away the land from the litigant in whose favor he had previously ruled. One who saw what he did thought that he made a mistake, but that is not so. Rather, he performed an action despite the objections that had been raised because the matter depends on great authorities [ashlei ravrevei]. Since, as the Gemara will demonstrate, this issue is subject to dispute between great authorities, he relied on those that supported his opinion.

דִּתְנַן, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אֵין מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד. אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: אֵימָתַי – בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁיֵּשׁ עוֹרְרִין, אֲבָל בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵין עוֹרְרִין – מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד.

As we learned in a mishna (Ketubot 23b): Rabbi Yehuda says: One is not elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness. Two witnesses are required for that purpose. Rabbi Elazar says: When is that the halakha? In a case where there are challengers to his claim that he is a priest. But in a case where there are no challengers, one is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness. Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel says in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest: One is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness.

רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הַיְינוּ רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר! וְכִי תֵּימָא: עַרְעָר חַד אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ – רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר סָבַר: עַרְעָר חַד,

The Gemara asks: The opinion of Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel is identical to the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, as they agree that one is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of one witness when there are no challengers. What is their dispute? And if you would say that there is a practical difference between them in a case where there is a challenge posed by one person, as Rabbi Elazar holds: A challenge posed by one person is sufficient to undermine one’s presumptive status of priesthood, and two witnesses are required to overcome that challenge;

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Meryll Page

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Anne Mirsky

Maale Adumim, Israel

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Linda Brownstein

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Yafit Fishbach
Yafit Fishbach

Memphis, Tennessee, United States

Bava Batra 31

אֲבָל שֵׁית – אֵין לְךָ מֶחָאָה גְּדוֹלָה מִזּוֹ.

But if he profited from the land for only six years, so that the sale to the claimant took place before the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership were completed, you can have no greater protest than this, that the purported seller then sold the land to another. By doing so he indicated that he does not concede that the possessor was the rightful owner, and the possessor should have been careful to hold on to his bill of sale for even longer than three years.

זֶה אוֹמֵר: ״שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי״, וְזֶה אוֹמֵר: ״שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי״; הַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ הִיא, וְהַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דְּאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה –

There was an incident where two people disputed the ownership of land. This one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them, and that one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them. This one brings witnesses that the land belonged to his ancestors, and that one brings witnesses that he currently possesses the land and that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

אָמַר רַבָּה: מָה לוֹ לְשַׁקֵּר? אִי בָּעֵי אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מִינָּךְ זְבֵנְתַּהּ וַאֲכַלְתִּיהָ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: ״מָה לִי לְשַׁקֵּר״ בִּמְקוֹם עֵדִים – לָא אָמְרִינַן.

Rabba said: The judgment is in favor of the possessor, due to the legal principle that if the judgment would have been decided in one’s favor had he advanced a certain claim, and he instead advanced a different claim that leads to the same ruling, he has credibility, as why would he lie and state this claim? If the possessor wanted to lie, he could have said to the claimant: I purchased the land from you and I worked and profited from it for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership, in which case he would have been awarded the land. Abaye said to Rabba: We do not say the principle of: Why would I lie, in a case where there are witnesses contradicting his current claim, as they testify that the land belonged to the ancestors of the claimant. Therefore, he should not be awarded the land.

הֲדַר אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין, דַּאֲבָהָתָךְ הִיא – וּזְבֵנְתַּהּ מִינָּךְ; וְהַאי דַּאֲמַרִי לָךְ דַּאֲבָהָתִי, דִּסְמִיךְ לִי עֲלַהּ כְּדַאֲבָהָתִי.

The possessor then said to the claimant: Yes, it is true that it had belonged to your ancestors, but I purchased it from you, and by stating that which I said to you: It belonged to my ancestors, I merely meant that I rely upon my ownership of it as if it belonged to my ancestors, as I purchased it and then profited from it for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן, אוֹ אֵין טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן? עוּלָּא אָמַר: טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. נְהַרְדָּעֵי אָמְרִי: אֵינוֹ טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן.

The Gemara asks: Can he state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, or can he not state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim? Ulla said: He can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim. The Sages of Neharde’a say: He cannot state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim.

וּמוֹדֵי עוּלָּא הֵיכָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי וְלֹא שֶׁל אֲבוֹתֶיךָ – דְּאֵינוֹ טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהֵיכָא דַּהֲוָה קָאֵי בֵּי דִינָא וְלָא טְעַן, וַאֲתָא מֵאַבָּרַאי וּטְעַן – אֵינוֹ חוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. מַאי טַעְמָא? טַעְנְתֵיהּ אַגְמְרֵיהּ.

The Gemara clarifies their respective opinions: And Ulla concedes that in a case where he had initially said to him: The land belonged to my ancestors and did not belong to your ancestors, that he cannot state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, as Ulla allows the litigant only to reinterpret his initial claim, not to replace it with a contradictory claim. And Ulla also concedes that in a case where he was standing in court and did not state a particular claim, and he later came in from outside and back into the court and he stated that claim, that he cannot return and state that claim. What is the reason for this? It is because it is apparent that these claims of his were taught to him by someone after he left the court.

וּמוֹדוּ נְהַרְדָּעֵי הֵיכָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי שֶׁלְּקָחוּהָ מֵאֲבוֹתֶיךָ – דְּחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהֵיכָא דְּאִישְׁתַּעִי מִילֵּי אַבָּרַאי וְלָא טְעַן, וַאֲתָא לְבֵי דִינָא וּטְעַן – דְּחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. מַאי טַעְמָא? עֲבִיד אִינִישׁ דְּלָא מְגַלֵּי טַעְנְתֵיהּ אֶלָּא לְבֵי דִינָא.

And the Sages of Neharde’a concede that in a case where the litigant who changed his claim said to the other litigant that when he had initially claimed: The land belonged to my ancestors, he had actually meant: It belonged to my ancestors, who purchased it from your ancestors, that he can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim, as this serves only to clarify, and not negate, his initial claim. And the Sages of Neharde’a also concede that in a case where he discussed the matter outside of the court and did not state a particular claim, and then he came in to the court and stated that claim, that he can return and state that claim. What is the reason for this? Because a person is apt not to reveal his claims except to the court.

אָמַר אַמֵּימָר: אֲנָא נְהַרְדָּעָא אֲנָא, וּסְבִירָא לִי דְּטוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן. וְהִלְכְתָא: טוֹעֵן וְחוֹזֵר וְטוֹעֵן.

Ameimar said: I am from Neharde’a, but I nevertheless hold that a litigant can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim. The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is that a litigant can state a claim and return and state a modified version of his claim.

זֶה אוֹמֵר: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי, וְזֶה אוֹמֵר: שֶׁל אֲבוֹתַי; הַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ וְאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה, וְהַאי אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דְּאַכְלַהּ שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה.

In an incident where two people dispute the ownership of land, this one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them, and that one says: The land belonged to my ancestors and I inherited it from them. The first one brings witnesses that the land belonged to his ancestors, and that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership. And the second one brings witnesses only that he worked and profited from the land for the years necessary for establishing the presumption of ownership.

אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: אוֹקִי אֲכִילָה לְבַהֲדֵי אֲכִילָה, וְאוֹקִי אַרְעָא בְּחֶזְקַת אֲבָהָתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא: הָא עֵדוּת מוּכְחֶשֶׁת הִיא! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: נְהִי דְּאִיתַּכְחַשׁ בַּאֲכִילְתָה,

Rav Naḥman said: Establish the testimony with regard to the profiting by the first litigant alongside the testimony with regard to the profiting by the second, and the two testimonies cancel each other out, leaving the testimony with regard to ownership by the ancestors of the first litigant. And therefore, establish the land in the presumptive ownership of the litigant who brought witnesses that it belonged to his ancestors. Rava objected and said to him: This testimony cannot be relied on, as it is contradicted by the other testimony. Rav Naḥman responded and said to him: Although it is so that the testimony was contradicted with regard to profiting from the land,

בַּאֲבָהָתָא מִי אִתַּכְחַשׁ?!

was the testimony contradicted with regard to ownership of the ancestors?

לֵימָא רָבָא וְרַב נַחְמָן – בִּפְלוּגְתָּא דְּרַב הוּנָא וְרַב חִסְדָּא קָמִיפַּלְגִי?

The Gemara asks: Shall we say that Rava and Rav Naḥman disagree in the dispute between Rav Huna and Rav Ḥisda?

דְּאִיתְּמַר: שְׁתֵּי כִּתֵּי עֵדִים הַמַּכְחִישׁוֹת זוֹ אֶת זוֹ – אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: זוֹ בָּאָה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ וּמְעִידָה, וְזוֹ בָּאָה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ וּמְעִידָה. וְרַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: בַּהֲדֵי סָהֲדֵי שַׁקָּרֵי לְמָה לִי? לֵימָא רַב נַחְמָן – דְּאָמַר כְּרַב הוּנָא, וְרָבָא כְּרַב חִסְדָּא?

As it was stated concerning two groups of witnesses that contradict each other, that Rav Huna says: This one comes to court on its own and testifies, and that one comes to court on its own and testifies. Despite the fact that one group certainly testified falsely, which should serve to disqualify one of the groups, each group is able to testify in another case. And Rav Ḥisda says: Why do I need these lying witnesses? In other words, they are all disqualified to testify in another case until it is clarified which of them had testified falsely. The Gemara asks: Shall we say that Rav Naḥman is the one who says his ruling in accordance with the opinion of Rav Huna, and Rava says his ruling in accordance with the opinion of Rav Ḥisda?

אַלִּיבָּא דְּרַב חִסְדָּא – כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְלִיגִי, כִּי פְּלִיגִי – אַלִּיבָּא דְרַב הוּנָא. רַב נַחְמָן – כְּרַב הוּנָא. וְרָבָא – עַד כָּאן לָא קָאָמַר רַב הוּנָא אֶלָּא לְעֵדוּת אַחֶרֶת, אֲבָל לְאוֹתָהּ עֵדוּת – לָא.

The Gemara explains: According to the opinion of Rav Ḥisda, who holds that the witnesses are disqualified, everyone agrees that the testimony concerning ancestral ownership is not accepted, as the witnesses were contradicted concerning their testimony of usage of the land, and Rav Naḥman’s ruling cannot accord with his opinion. When Rav Naḥman and Rava disagree it is according to the opinion of Rav Huna, who does not disqualify the witnesses. The ruling of Rav Naḥman is in accordance with the opinion of Rav Huna, and he therefore accepts the testimony with regard to ancestral ownership, and Rava would say: Rav Huna says that the witnesses are accepted only for another testimony, i.e., in a different case. But they are not accepted for the same testimony, as in this incident, where both testimonies concerned ownership of the same land.

הֲדַר אַיְיתִי סָהֲדֵי דַּאֲבָהָתֵיהּ הִיא. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: אֲנַן אַחֲתִינֵּיהּ, אֲנַן מַסְּקִינַן לֵיהּ; לְזִילוּתָא דְבֵי דִינָא לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.

The Gemara relates the continuation of the case above. The one who had brought witnesses only to his having profited from the land then brought witnesses that it had belonged to his ancestors, thereby balancing the evidence for the two litigants. Therefore, Rav Naḥman said: We previously brought down to the land the one who initially had evidence of ancestral ownership to take possession of it, and we now bring him up from it, removing him from the land. And we are not concerned about the possible contempt of court that might result from perceived indecisiveness.

מֵתִיב רָבָא, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַבִּי זְעֵירָא: שְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים מֵת, וּשְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים לָא מֵת; שְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים נִתְגָּרְשָׁה, וּשְׁנַיִם אוֹמְרִים לֹא נִתְגָּרְשָׁה – הֲרֵי זוֹ לֹא תִּנָּשֵׂא, וְאִם נִשֵּׂאת לֹא תֵּצֵא. רַבִּי מְנַחֵם בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: תֵּצֵא.

Rava, and some say it is Rabbi Zeira, raises an objection from a baraita. If there was a married man whose fate was unknown, and two witnesses say: This married man died, and two witnesses say: He did not die; or if two witnesses say: This woman was divorced, and two witnesses say: She was not divorced, this woman may not marry, as there is not unequivocal testimony that she is no longer married, but if she marries, the marriage is valid and she need not leave her husband. Rabbi Menaḥem, son of Rabbi Yosei, says: She must leave her husband.

אָמַר רַבִּי מְנַחֵם בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי: אֵימָתַי אֲנִי אוֹמֵר תֵּצֵא – בִּזְמַן שֶׁבָּאוּ עֵדִים וְאַחַר כָּךְ נִשֵּׂאת; אֲבָל נִשֵּׂאת וְאַחַר כָּךְ בָּאוּ עֵדִים – הֲרֵי זוֹ לֹא תֵּצֵא.

Rabbi Menaḥem, son of Rabbi Yosei, said: When do I say that she must leave her husband? She must leave him in a case where witnesses came to testify that she is still married and she then married despite their testimony. But if she married and the witnesses then came to testify that she is still married, this woman is not required to leave her husband based on the uncertainty created by contradictory witnesses. The fact that she is not required to leave her marriage in light of the new testimony seems to indicate an unwillingness to reverse the court’s ruling that she may marry, contrary to the ruling of Rav Naḥman.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא סְבַרִי לְמֶעְבַּד עוֹבָדָא; הַשְׁתָּא דְּאוֹתֵיבְתַּן אַתְּ, וְאוֹתְבַן רַב הַמְנוּנָא בְּסוּרְיָא – לָא עָבֵידְנָא בַּהּ עוֹבָדָא.

Rav Naḥman said to him: I had thought to perform an action and reverse the court’s ruling, but now that you raised an objection against me, and Rav Hamnuna also raised a similar objection against me in Syria, I will not perform an action in this matter.

נְפַק עֲבַד עוֹבָדָא. מַאן דַּחֲזָא, סָבַר: טָעוּתָא הִיא בִּידֵיהּ; וְלָא הִיא, אֶלָּא מִשּׁוּם דְּתַלְיָא בְּאַשְׁלֵי רַבְרְבֵי –

The Gemara relates that Rav Naḥman then went out and performed an action, taking away the land from the litigant in whose favor he had previously ruled. One who saw what he did thought that he made a mistake, but that is not so. Rather, he performed an action despite the objections that had been raised because the matter depends on great authorities [ashlei ravrevei]. Since, as the Gemara will demonstrate, this issue is subject to dispute between great authorities, he relied on those that supported his opinion.

דִּתְנַן, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אֵין מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד. אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: אֵימָתַי – בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁיֵּשׁ עוֹרְרִין, אֲבָל בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵין עוֹרְרִין – מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: מַעֲלִין לַכְּהוּנָּה עַל פִּי עֵד אֶחָד.

As we learned in a mishna (Ketubot 23b): Rabbi Yehuda says: One is not elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness. Two witnesses are required for that purpose. Rabbi Elazar says: When is that the halakha? In a case where there are challengers to his claim that he is a priest. But in a case where there are no challengers, one is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness. Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel says in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest: One is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of the testimony of one witness.

רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הַיְינוּ רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר! וְכִי תֵּימָא: עַרְעָר חַד אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ – רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר סָבַר: עַרְעָר חַד,

The Gemara asks: The opinion of Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel is identical to the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, as they agree that one is elevated to the presumptive status of priesthood on the basis of one witness when there are no challengers. What is their dispute? And if you would say that there is a practical difference between them in a case where there is a challenge posed by one person, as Rabbi Elazar holds: A challenge posed by one person is sufficient to undermine one’s presumptive status of priesthood, and two witnesses are required to overcome that challenge;

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