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Ketubot 63

Today’s daf is sponsored by Miriam and Lana Kerzner, Dov and Elayne Greenstone and families in loving memory of Denny Lock, beloved brother of Mitzi Geffen. “With love and much comfort from your cousins in Israel and abroad.”

Today’s daf is sponsored by Suri Davis-Stern for the yahrzeit of her grandfather, Rabbi Chaim Davis, HaRav Chaim ben Nesanel who brought daf yomi to the five towns in 1974 at the White Shul. May his neshama have an aliyah.

Rabbi Akiva was the shepherd of a rich man, Kalba Savua and married his daughter, Rachel, secretly, much to the chagrin of her father. Rachel wanted him to go to study and even after he came back after 12 years, he heard her tell someone else that he wished he would study more and therefore he went to learn for another 12 years. The story is a story of a rabbi who goes away from home successfully as it was the wish of his wife, as opposed to the other stories. Rabbi Akiva鈥檚 daughter did the same as her mother with Ben Azai. The Gemara ends the series of stories with Rav Yosef, son of Raba who went to study and returned in the middle of the time set for him on the eve of Yom Kippur to see his wife and Raba was angry with him. What is the ruling for a woman who rebels against her husband? What is the ruling for a man who rebels against his wife? According to the Mishna, we push off the divorce in other to see if there is a way to compromise and save the marriage. The Gemara asks what is considered “to rebel”? Is it by refusing to have marital relations or by refusing to do her jobs in the house? Although the law for an is spelled out in the Mishna, the rabbis changed the law and shortened the way to divorce in a case of rebellion. There were different opinions on whether to follow as stipulated in the Mishna or as to the change the rabbis made. If a woman says that her husband is “disgusting to me,” does that fall into the religion of a rebel or is it something else? Why would there be a difference?

拽讗 诪讚讘专转 讗诇诪谞讜转 讞讬讬诐 讗诪专讛 诇讬讛 讗讬 诇讚讬讚讬 爪讬讬转 讬转讬讘 转专讬 住专讬 砖谞讬 讗讞专讬谞讬 讗诪专 讘专砖讜转 拽讗 注讘讬讚谞讗 讛讚专 讗讝讬诇 讜讬转讬讘 转专讬 住专讬 砖谞讬 讗讞专讬谞讬 讘讘讬 专讘 讻讬 讗转讗 讗讬讬转讬 讘讛讚讬讛 注砖专讬谉 讜讗专讘注讛 讗诇驻讬 转诇诪讬讚讬 砖诪注讛 讚讘讬转讛讜 讛讜转 拽讗 谞驻拽讗 诇讗驻讬讛 讗诪专讜 诇讛 砖讬讘讘转讗 砖讗讬诇讬 诪讗谞讬 诇讘讜砖 讜讗讬讻住讗讬 讗诪专讛 诇讛讜 讬讜讚注 爪讚讬拽 谞驻砖 讘讛诪转讜 讻讬 诪讟讬讗 诇讙讘讬讛 谞驻诇讛 注诇 讗驻讛 拽讗 诪谞砖拽讗 诇讬讛 诇讻专注讬讛 讛讜讜 拽讗 诪讚讞驻讬 诇讛 砖诪注讬讛 讗诪专 诇讛讜 砖讘拽讜讛 砖诇讬 讜砖诇讻诐 砖诇讛 讛讜讗


will you lead the life of a widow of a living man, living alone while your husband is in another place? She said to him: If he would listen to me, he would sit and study for another twelve years. When Rabbi Akiva heard this he said: I have permission to do this. He went back and sat for another twelve years in the study hall. When he came back he brought twenty-four thousand students with him. His wife heard and went out toward him to greet him. Her neighbors said: Borrow some clothes and wear them, as your current apparel is not appropriate to meet an important person. She said to them: 鈥淎 righteous man understands the life of his beast鈥 (Proverbs 12:10). When she came to him she fell on her face and kissed his feet. His attendants pushed her away as they did not know who she was, and he said to them: Leave her alone, as my Torah knowledge and yours is actually hers.


砖诪注 讗讘讜讛 讚讗转讗 讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诇诪转讗 讗诪专 讗讬讝讬诇 诇讙讘讬讛 讗驻砖专 讚诪驻专 谞讚专讗讬 讗转讗 诇讙讘讬讛 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗讚注转讗 讚讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诪讬 谞讚专转 讗诪专 诇讜 讗驻讬诇讜 驻专拽 讗讞讚 讜讗驻讬诇讜 讛诇讻讛 讗讞转 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗谞讗 讛讜讗 谞驻诇 注诇 讗驻讬讛 讜谞砖拽讬讛 注诇 讻专注讬讛 讜讬讛讬讘 诇讬讛 驻诇讙讗 诪诪讜谞讬讛 讘专转讬讛 讚专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 注讘讚讗 诇讬讛 诇讘谉 注讝讗讬 讛讻讬 讜讛讬讬谞讜 讚讗诪专讬 讗讬谞砖讬 专讞讬诇讗 讘转专 专讞讬诇讗 讗讝诇讗 讻注讜讘讚讬 讗诪讛 讻讱 注讜讘讚讬 讘专转讗


In the meantime her father heard that a great man came to the town. He said: I will go to him. Maybe he will nullify my vow and I will be able to support my daughter. He came to him to ask about nullifying his vow, and Rabbi Akiva said to him: Did you vow thinking that this Akiva would become a great man? He said to him: If I had believed he would know even one chapter or even one halakha I would not have been so harsh. He said to him: I am he. Ben Kalba Savua fell on his face and kissed his feet and gave him half of his money. The Gemara relates: Rabbi Akiva鈥檚 daughter did the same thing for ben Azzai, who was also a simple person, and she caused him to learn Torah in a similar way, by betrothing herself to him and sending him off to study. This explains the folk saying that people say: The ewe follows the ewe; the daughter鈥檚 actions are the same as her mother鈥檚.


专讘 讬讜住祝 讘专讬讛 讚专讘讗 砖讚专讬讛 讗讘讜讛讬 诇讘讬 专讘 诇拽诪讬讛 讚专讘 讬讜住祝 驻住拽讜 诇讬讛 砖讬转 砖谞讬 讻讬 讛讜讛 转诇转 砖谞讬 诪讟讗 诪注诇讬 讬讜诪讗 讚讻驻讜专讬 讗诪专 讗讬讝讬诇 讜讗讬讞讝讬谞讛讜 诇讗讬谞砖讬 讘讬转讬 砖诪注 讗讘讜讛讬 砖拽诇 诪谞讗 讜谞驻拽 诇讗驻讬讛 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讝讜谞转讱 谞讝讻专转 讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讬讜谞转讱 谞讝讻专转 讗讬讟专讜讚 诇讗 诪专 讗讬驻住讬拽 讜诇讗 诪专 讗讬驻住讬拽:


On the same subject it is related: Rav Yosef, son of Rava, was sent by his father to the study hall to learn before the great Sage Rav Yosef. They agreed that he should sit for six years in the study hall. When three years had passed, the eve of Yom Kippur arrived and he said: I will go and see the members of my household, meaning his wife. His father heard and took a weapon, as if he were going to war, and went to meet him. According to one version he said to him: Did you remember your mistress, as you are abandoning your studies to see a woman? There are those who say that he said to him: Did you remember your dove? Since both father and son were involved in an argument, they were preoccupied and this Master did not eat the cessation meal before Yom Kippur and that Master also did not eat the cessation meal that day.


诪转谞讬壮 讛诪讜专讚转 注诇 讘注诇讛 驻讜讞转讬谉 诇讛 诪讻转讜讘转讛 砖讘注讛 讚讬谞专讬谉 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖讘注讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉 注讚 诪转讬 讛讜讗 驻讜讞转 注讚 讻谞讙讚 讻转讜讘转讛 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讗讜诪专 诇注讜诇诐 讛讜讗 驻讜讞转 讜讛讜诇讱 注讚 砖讗诐 转驻讜诇 诇讛 讬专讜砖讛 诪诪拽讜诐 讗讞专 讙讜讘讛 讛讬诪谞讛 讜讻谉 讛诪讜专讚 注诇 讗砖转讜 诪讜住讬驻讬谉 注诇 讻转讜讘转讛 砖诇砖讛 讚讬谞专讬谉 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖诇砖讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉:


MISHNA: A woman who rebels against her husband is fined; her marriage contract is reduced by seven dinars each week. Rabbi Yehuda says: Seven half-dinars [terapa鈥檌kin] each week. Until when does he reduce her marriage contract? Until the reductions are equivalent to her marriage contract, i.e., until he no longer owes her any money, at which point he divorces her without any payment. Rabbi Yosei says: He can always continue to deduct from the sum, even beyond that which is owed to her due to her marriage contract, so that if she will receive an inheritance from another source, he can collect the extra amount from her. And similarly, if a man rebels against his wife, he is fined and an extra three dinars a week are added to her marriage contract. Rabbi Yehuda says: Three terapa鈥檌kin.


讙诪壮 诪讜专讚转 诪诪讗讬 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 讛诪讟讛 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗 讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 转谞谉 讜讻谉 讛诪讜专讚 注诇 讗砖转讜 讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 诇讞讬讬 讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诪讬 诪砖讜注讘讚 诇讛 讗讬谉 讘讗讜诪专 讗讬谞讬 讝谉 讜讗讬谞讬 诪驻专谞住


GEMARA: The Gemara asks: Against what does she rebel; what is the nature of the rebellion discussed in the mishna? Rav Huna said: Against engaging in marital relations. Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina, said: Against the tasks she is obligated to perform for her husband. The Gemara clarifies this dispute. The mishna states: Similarly, if a man rebels against his wife. Granted, according to the one who says that the rebellion is against marital relations, it is well, as this type of rebellion can apply equally to a husband. However, according to the one who says that she rebels against performing tasks, is he subjugated to her to perform tasks? The Gemara answers: Yes, he is, as the mishna is discussing someone who says: I will not sustain and I will not support my wife.


讜讛讗诪专 专讘 讛讗讜诪专 讗讬谞讬 讝谉 讜讗讬谞讬 诪驻专谞住 讬讜爪讬讗 讜讬转谉 讻转讜讘讛 讜诇讗讜 诇讗诪诇讜讻讬 讘讬讛 讘注讬:


The Gemara asks: But didn鈥檛 Rav say: One who says: I will not sustain and I will not support my wife must immediately divorce her and give her the payment for her marriage contract? What relevance is there to a discussion of a weekly fine? The Gemara answers: Shouldn鈥檛 he be consulted to investigate whether he will retract his decision? In the interim, while the court discusses the issue with him and explains that he must divorce his wife if he does not retract his decision, he is fined by the addition of three dinars per week to her marriage contract.


诪讬转讘讬 讗讞转 诇讬 讗专讜住讛 讜谞砖讜讗讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 谞讚讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 讞讜诇讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 砖讜诪专转 讬讘诐


The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita with regard to a rebellious woman: It is the same to me, i.e., the same halakha applies, if the woman who rebelled is a betrothed woman, or a married woman, or even a menstruating woman, or even if she is ill, or even if she is a widow waiting for her yavam to perform levirate marriage.


讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 砖驻讬专 讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 谞讚讛 讘转 转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讗 讗诪专 诇讱 讗讬谞讜 讚讜诪讛 诪讬 砖讬砖 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜 诇诪讬 砖讗讬谉 诇讜


The Gemara discusses the baraita. Granted, according to the one who says that her rebelliousness is referring to performing tasks, it is well. However, according to the one who says that she rebels against engaging in marital relations, is a menstruating woman fit to engage in marital relations? She is not, and therefore there would be no significance to her refusal. The Gemara answers: The one who advocates that opinion could have said to you: One who has bread in his basket, i.e., one who has engaged in marital relations with his wife in the past, is not comparable to one who does not have bread in his basket. Since she declares her refusal to engage in marital relations, he suffers from this refusal even when she is menstruating or ill.


讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讬谞讜 讚拽转谞讬 讞讜诇讛


There are those who say that the objection was phrased differently. Granted, according to the one who says that the rebellion discussed in the mishna is referring to engaging in marital relations, this explanation is consistent with that which is taught with regard to an ill woman, that she be fined as a rebellious woman, as even if she is not capable of working, she can still be rebellious with regard to marital relations.


讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 讞讜诇讛 讘转 诪诇讗讻讛 讛讬讗 讗诇讗 诪转砖诪讬砖 讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 诇讗 驻诇讬讙讬 讚讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讻讬 驻诇讬讙讬 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诪专 住讘专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诇讗 讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讜诪专 住讘专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 谞诪讬 讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转:


However, according to the one who says the rebellion is against performing tasks, is an ill woman fit to perform tasks? Since she is ill, she has no obligation to perform tasks and this is not deemed rebellious behavior. Rather, one must explain this as follows: If she rebelled against engaging in marital relations, everyone agrees that she is defined as a rebellious woman. They disagree with regard to one who rebels against performing tasks. One Sage, Rav Huna, holds that one who rebels against performing tasks is not a rebellious woman, and one Sage, Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina, holds that one who rebels against performing tasks is also considered a rebellious woman.


讙讜驻讗 讛诪讜专讚转 注诇 讘注诇讛 驻讜讞转讬谉 诇讛 诪讻转讜讘转讛 砖讘注讛 讚讬谞专讬诐 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖讘注讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉 专讘讜转讬谞讜 讞讝专讜 讜谞诪谞讜 砖讬讛讜 诪讻专讬讝讬谉 注诇讬讛 讗专讘注 砖讘转讜转 讝讜 讗讞专 讝讜 讜砖讜诇讞讬谉 诇讛 讘讬转 讚讬谉 讛讜讬 讬讜讚注转 砖讗驻讬诇讜 讻转讜讘转讬讱 诪讗讛 诪谞讛 讛驻住讚转 讗讞转 诇讬 讗专讜住讛 讜谞砖讜讗讛 讗驻讬诇讜 谞讚讛 讗驻讬诇讜 讞讜诇讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 砖讜诪专转 讬讘诐


搂 With regard to the matter itself: A woman who rebels against her husband is fined; we reduce her marriage contract by seven dinars each week, and Rabbi Yehuda says: Seven terapa鈥檌kin. Our Sages went back and were counted again, meaning they voted and decided that instead of deducting a small amount from her marriage contract each week, they would make public announcements about her for four consecutive Shabbatot. And they decided that the court would send messengers to her to inform her: Be aware that even if your marriage contract is worth ten thousand dinars, you will lose it all if you continue your rebellion. If she does not retract her rebellion, she forfeits her entire marriage contract. With regard to this enactment, it is the same to me, meaning the halakha does not change, if she is a betrothed woman or a married woman, and even if she is a menstruating woman, and even if she is ill, and even if she is a widow awaiting her yavam to perform levirate marriage.


讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讬讜住祝 诇砖诪讜讗诇 谞讚讛 讘转 转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讗 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗讬谞讜 讚讜诪讛 诪讬 砖讬砖 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜 诇诪讬 砖讗讬谉 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜


Rabbi 岣yya bar Yosef said to Shmuel: Is a menstruating woman fit to engage in conjugal relations? He said to him: One who has bread in his basket, i.e., one who knows that he will be able to engage in relations with his wife after her period of menstrual impurity ends, is not comparable to one who does not have bread in his basket.


讗诪专 专诪讬 讘专 讞诪讗 讗讬谉 诪讻专讬讝讬谉 注诇讬讛 讗诇讗 讘讘转讬 讻谞住讬讜转 讜讘讘转讬 诪讚专砖讜转 讗诪专 专讘讗 讚讬拽讗 谞诪讬 讚拽转谞讬 讗专讘注 砖讘转讜转 讝讜 讗讞专 讝讜 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛 讗诪专 专诪讬 讘专 讞诪讗 驻注诪讬诐 砖讜诇讞讬谉 诇讛 诪讘讬转 讚讬谉 讗讞转 拽讜讚诐 讛讻专讝讛 讜讗讞转 诇讗讞专 讛讻专讝讛


Rami bar 岣ma said: We make announcements about her only in synagogues and study halls, but not in the street. Rava said: The language of the baraita is also precise, as it teaches: They would make announcements on four consecutive Shabbatot, which are days when no labor is performed and people are not to be found in the streets, but rather in synagogues and study halls. The Gemara summarizes: Conclude from this that this is the case. Rami bar 岣ma said: The court sends people to talk with her twice, once before the announcement and once after the announcement.


讚专砖 专讘 谞讞诪谉 讘专 专讘 讞住讚讗 讛诇讻讛 讻专讘讜转讬谞讜 讗诪专 专讘讗 讛讗讬 讘讜专讻讗 讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘 谞讞诪谉 讘专 讬爪讞拽 诪讗讬 讘讜专讻转讬讛 讗谞讗 讗诪专讬转讛 谞讬讛诇讬讛 讜诪砖诪讬讛 讚讙讘专讗 专讘讛 讗诪专讬转讛 谞讬讛诇讬讛 讜诪谞讜 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗


Rav Na岣an bar Rav 岣sda taught with regard to this: The halakha is in accordance with the decision of our Sages. Rava said: This is an absurdity [burkha]. Rav Na岣an bar Yitz岣k said to him: What is absurd about this? I said this to him, and I said it to him in the name of a great man. And who is the great man who ruled this way? Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina.


讜讗讬讛讜 讻诪讗谉 住讘专 讻讬 讛讗 讚讗转诪专 专讘讗 讗诪专 专讘 砖砖转 讛诇讻讛 谞诪诇讻讬谉 讘讛 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讘专 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专 专讘 砖砖转 讛诇讻讛 讗讬谉 谞诪诇讻讬谉 讘讛


The Gemara asks: And in accordance with whose opinion does Rava hold? The Gemara answers: In accordance with that which was stated: Rava said that Rav Sheshet said: The halakha is that she is consulted in an attempt to convince her to retract her decision, and while doing so deductions are made from her marriage contract. But Rav Huna bar Yehuda said that Rav Sheshet said: The halakha is that we do not consult with her. According to both versions of Rav Sheshet鈥檚 ruling, she does not lose her marriage contract immediately but rather it is reduced every week. This is the source for Rava鈥檚 opinion.


讛讬讻讬 讚诪讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讗诪专 讗诪讬诪专 讚讗诪专讛 讘注讬谞讗 诇讬讛 讜诪爪注专谞讗 诇讬讛 讗讘诇 讗诪专讛 诪讗讬住 注诇讬 诇讗 讻讬讬驻讬谞谉 诇讛 诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讗诪专 讻讬讬驻讬谞谉 诇讛


搂 With regard to this halakha, the Gemara asks: What are the circumstances in which the halakha of a rebellious woman applies? Ameimar said: The case is where she says: I want to be married to him, but I am currently refusing him because I want to cause him anguish due to a dispute between us. However, if she said: I am disgusted with him, we do not compel her to remain with him, as one should not be compelled to live with someone who disgusts her. Mar Zutra said: We do compel her to stay with him.


讛讜讛 注讜讘讚讗 讜讗讻驻讛 诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讜谞驻拽 诪讬谞讬讛 专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗 诪住讜专讗 讜诇讗 讛讬讗 讛转诐 住讬讬注转讗 讚砖诪讬讗 讛讜讛


It is related: There was an incident in which a woman rebelled, claiming that she was disgusted with her husband, and Mar Zutra compelled her to stay with him. And from this couple issued Rabbi 岣nina of Sura. This demonstrates that even such coercion can cause a blessing. However, the Gemara concludes: That is not so. That case should not serve as a precedent, as there the positive outcome was due to heavenly assistance. Ordinarily, nothing good results from conjugal relations that the wife does not desire.


讻诇转讬讛 讚专讘 讝讘讬讚 讗讬诪专讚讗 讛讜讛 转驻讬住讗 讞讚 砖讬专讗 讬转讬讘 讗诪讬诪专 讜诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讜专讘 讗砖讬 讜讬转讬讘 专讘 讙诪讚讗 讙讘讬讬讛讜 讬转讘讬 讜拽讗诪专讬 诪专讚讛 讛驻住讬讚讛 讘诇讗讜转讬讛 拽讬讬诪讬谉 讗诪专 诇讛讜 专讘 讙诪讚讗 诪砖讜诐 讚专讘 讝讘讬讚 讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诪讞谞讬驻讬转讜 诇讬讛 讜讛讗诪专 专讘 讻讛谞讗 诪讬讘注讬讗 讘注讬 专讘讗 讜诇讗 驻砖讬讟 讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讬转讘讬 讜拽讗诪专讬 诪专讚讛 诇讗 讛驻住讬讚讛 讘诇讗讜转讬讛 拽讬讬诪讬谉 讗诪专 诇讛讜 专讘 讙诪讚讗


It is related that the daughter-in-law of Rav Zevid rebelled against her husband. She was holding a certain garment in her hands. Ameimar, Mar Zutra, and Rav Ashi were sitting, and Rav Gamda was sitting with them. They sat and said: If a woman rebelled, she lost her right to her worn clothes, meaning she has forfeited the clothes she brought with her for her dowry even if they are still in existence. Rav Gamda said to them: Because Rav Zevid is a great man, are you willing to flatter him with regard to this halakha? Didn鈥檛 Rav Kahana say: Rava raises a dilemma about this issue with regard to worn clothes, and he did not resolve it? Yet you reached a decision out of respect for Rav Zevid. This is inappropriate. There are those who say that this incident happened differently, as these three Sages sat and said: If she rebelled, she did not lose her right to her worn clothes. Rav Gamda said to them:


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Ketubot 63

拽讗 诪讚讘专转 讗诇诪谞讜转 讞讬讬诐 讗诪专讛 诇讬讛 讗讬 诇讚讬讚讬 爪讬讬转 讬转讬讘 转专讬 住专讬 砖谞讬 讗讞专讬谞讬 讗诪专 讘专砖讜转 拽讗 注讘讬讚谞讗 讛讚专 讗讝讬诇 讜讬转讬讘 转专讬 住专讬 砖谞讬 讗讞专讬谞讬 讘讘讬 专讘 讻讬 讗转讗 讗讬讬转讬 讘讛讚讬讛 注砖专讬谉 讜讗专讘注讛 讗诇驻讬 转诇诪讬讚讬 砖诪注讛 讚讘讬转讛讜 讛讜转 拽讗 谞驻拽讗 诇讗驻讬讛 讗诪专讜 诇讛 砖讬讘讘转讗 砖讗讬诇讬 诪讗谞讬 诇讘讜砖 讜讗讬讻住讗讬 讗诪专讛 诇讛讜 讬讜讚注 爪讚讬拽 谞驻砖 讘讛诪转讜 讻讬 诪讟讬讗 诇讙讘讬讛 谞驻诇讛 注诇 讗驻讛 拽讗 诪谞砖拽讗 诇讬讛 诇讻专注讬讛 讛讜讜 拽讗 诪讚讞驻讬 诇讛 砖诪注讬讛 讗诪专 诇讛讜 砖讘拽讜讛 砖诇讬 讜砖诇讻诐 砖诇讛 讛讜讗


will you lead the life of a widow of a living man, living alone while your husband is in another place? She said to him: If he would listen to me, he would sit and study for another twelve years. When Rabbi Akiva heard this he said: I have permission to do this. He went back and sat for another twelve years in the study hall. When he came back he brought twenty-four thousand students with him. His wife heard and went out toward him to greet him. Her neighbors said: Borrow some clothes and wear them, as your current apparel is not appropriate to meet an important person. She said to them: 鈥淎 righteous man understands the life of his beast鈥 (Proverbs 12:10). When she came to him she fell on her face and kissed his feet. His attendants pushed her away as they did not know who she was, and he said to them: Leave her alone, as my Torah knowledge and yours is actually hers.


砖诪注 讗讘讜讛 讚讗转讗 讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诇诪转讗 讗诪专 讗讬讝讬诇 诇讙讘讬讛 讗驻砖专 讚诪驻专 谞讚专讗讬 讗转讗 诇讙讘讬讛 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗讚注转讗 讚讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诪讬 谞讚专转 讗诪专 诇讜 讗驻讬诇讜 驻专拽 讗讞讚 讜讗驻讬诇讜 讛诇讻讛 讗讞转 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗谞讗 讛讜讗 谞驻诇 注诇 讗驻讬讛 讜谞砖拽讬讛 注诇 讻专注讬讛 讜讬讛讬讘 诇讬讛 驻诇讙讗 诪诪讜谞讬讛 讘专转讬讛 讚专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 注讘讚讗 诇讬讛 诇讘谉 注讝讗讬 讛讻讬 讜讛讬讬谞讜 讚讗诪专讬 讗讬谞砖讬 专讞讬诇讗 讘转专 专讞讬诇讗 讗讝诇讗 讻注讜讘讚讬 讗诪讛 讻讱 注讜讘讚讬 讘专转讗


In the meantime her father heard that a great man came to the town. He said: I will go to him. Maybe he will nullify my vow and I will be able to support my daughter. He came to him to ask about nullifying his vow, and Rabbi Akiva said to him: Did you vow thinking that this Akiva would become a great man? He said to him: If I had believed he would know even one chapter or even one halakha I would not have been so harsh. He said to him: I am he. Ben Kalba Savua fell on his face and kissed his feet and gave him half of his money. The Gemara relates: Rabbi Akiva鈥檚 daughter did the same thing for ben Azzai, who was also a simple person, and she caused him to learn Torah in a similar way, by betrothing herself to him and sending him off to study. This explains the folk saying that people say: The ewe follows the ewe; the daughter鈥檚 actions are the same as her mother鈥檚.


专讘 讬讜住祝 讘专讬讛 讚专讘讗 砖讚专讬讛 讗讘讜讛讬 诇讘讬 专讘 诇拽诪讬讛 讚专讘 讬讜住祝 驻住拽讜 诇讬讛 砖讬转 砖谞讬 讻讬 讛讜讛 转诇转 砖谞讬 诪讟讗 诪注诇讬 讬讜诪讗 讚讻驻讜专讬 讗诪专 讗讬讝讬诇 讜讗讬讞讝讬谞讛讜 诇讗讬谞砖讬 讘讬转讬 砖诪注 讗讘讜讛讬 砖拽诇 诪谞讗 讜谞驻拽 诇讗驻讬讛 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讝讜谞转讱 谞讝讻专转 讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讬讜谞转讱 谞讝讻专转 讗讬讟专讜讚 诇讗 诪专 讗讬驻住讬拽 讜诇讗 诪专 讗讬驻住讬拽:


On the same subject it is related: Rav Yosef, son of Rava, was sent by his father to the study hall to learn before the great Sage Rav Yosef. They agreed that he should sit for six years in the study hall. When three years had passed, the eve of Yom Kippur arrived and he said: I will go and see the members of my household, meaning his wife. His father heard and took a weapon, as if he were going to war, and went to meet him. According to one version he said to him: Did you remember your mistress, as you are abandoning your studies to see a woman? There are those who say that he said to him: Did you remember your dove? Since both father and son were involved in an argument, they were preoccupied and this Master did not eat the cessation meal before Yom Kippur and that Master also did not eat the cessation meal that day.


诪转谞讬壮 讛诪讜专讚转 注诇 讘注诇讛 驻讜讞转讬谉 诇讛 诪讻转讜讘转讛 砖讘注讛 讚讬谞专讬谉 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖讘注讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉 注讚 诪转讬 讛讜讗 驻讜讞转 注讚 讻谞讙讚 讻转讜讘转讛 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讗讜诪专 诇注讜诇诐 讛讜讗 驻讜讞转 讜讛讜诇讱 注讚 砖讗诐 转驻讜诇 诇讛 讬专讜砖讛 诪诪拽讜诐 讗讞专 讙讜讘讛 讛讬诪谞讛 讜讻谉 讛诪讜专讚 注诇 讗砖转讜 诪讜住讬驻讬谉 注诇 讻转讜讘转讛 砖诇砖讛 讚讬谞专讬谉 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖诇砖讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉:


MISHNA: A woman who rebels against her husband is fined; her marriage contract is reduced by seven dinars each week. Rabbi Yehuda says: Seven half-dinars [terapa鈥檌kin] each week. Until when does he reduce her marriage contract? Until the reductions are equivalent to her marriage contract, i.e., until he no longer owes her any money, at which point he divorces her without any payment. Rabbi Yosei says: He can always continue to deduct from the sum, even beyond that which is owed to her due to her marriage contract, so that if she will receive an inheritance from another source, he can collect the extra amount from her. And similarly, if a man rebels against his wife, he is fined and an extra three dinars a week are added to her marriage contract. Rabbi Yehuda says: Three terapa鈥檌kin.


讙诪壮 诪讜专讚转 诪诪讗讬 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 讛诪讟讛 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗 讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 转谞谉 讜讻谉 讛诪讜专讚 注诇 讗砖转讜 讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 诇讞讬讬 讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诪讬 诪砖讜注讘讚 诇讛 讗讬谉 讘讗讜诪专 讗讬谞讬 讝谉 讜讗讬谞讬 诪驻专谞住


GEMARA: The Gemara asks: Against what does she rebel; what is the nature of the rebellion discussed in the mishna? Rav Huna said: Against engaging in marital relations. Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina, said: Against the tasks she is obligated to perform for her husband. The Gemara clarifies this dispute. The mishna states: Similarly, if a man rebels against his wife. Granted, according to the one who says that the rebellion is against marital relations, it is well, as this type of rebellion can apply equally to a husband. However, according to the one who says that she rebels against performing tasks, is he subjugated to her to perform tasks? The Gemara answers: Yes, he is, as the mishna is discussing someone who says: I will not sustain and I will not support my wife.


讜讛讗诪专 专讘 讛讗讜诪专 讗讬谞讬 讝谉 讜讗讬谞讬 诪驻专谞住 讬讜爪讬讗 讜讬转谉 讻转讜讘讛 讜诇讗讜 诇讗诪诇讜讻讬 讘讬讛 讘注讬:


The Gemara asks: But didn鈥檛 Rav say: One who says: I will not sustain and I will not support my wife must immediately divorce her and give her the payment for her marriage contract? What relevance is there to a discussion of a weekly fine? The Gemara answers: Shouldn鈥檛 he be consulted to investigate whether he will retract his decision? In the interim, while the court discusses the issue with him and explains that he must divorce his wife if he does not retract his decision, he is fined by the addition of three dinars per week to her marriage contract.


诪讬转讘讬 讗讞转 诇讬 讗专讜住讛 讜谞砖讜讗讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 谞讚讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 讞讜诇讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 砖讜诪专转 讬讘诐


The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita with regard to a rebellious woman: It is the same to me, i.e., the same halakha applies, if the woman who rebelled is a betrothed woman, or a married woman, or even a menstruating woman, or even if she is ill, or even if she is a widow waiting for her yavam to perform levirate marriage.


讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 砖驻讬专 讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 谞讚讛 讘转 转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讗 讗诪专 诇讱 讗讬谞讜 讚讜诪讛 诪讬 砖讬砖 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜 诇诪讬 砖讗讬谉 诇讜


The Gemara discusses the baraita. Granted, according to the one who says that her rebelliousness is referring to performing tasks, it is well. However, according to the one who says that she rebels against engaging in marital relations, is a menstruating woman fit to engage in marital relations? She is not, and therefore there would be no significance to her refusal. The Gemara answers: The one who advocates that opinion could have said to you: One who has bread in his basket, i.e., one who has engaged in marital relations with his wife in the past, is not comparable to one who does not have bread in his basket. Since she declares her refusal to engage in marital relations, he suffers from this refusal even when she is menstruating or ill.


讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讘砖诇诪讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讬谞讜 讚拽转谞讬 讞讜诇讛


There are those who say that the objection was phrased differently. Granted, according to the one who says that the rebellion discussed in the mishna is referring to engaging in marital relations, this explanation is consistent with that which is taught with regard to an ill woman, that she be fined as a rebellious woman, as even if she is not capable of working, she can still be rebellious with regard to marital relations.


讗诇讗 诇诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 讞讜诇讛 讘转 诪诇讗讻讛 讛讬讗 讗诇讗 诪转砖诪讬砖 讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 诇讗 驻诇讬讙讬 讚讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讻讬 驻诇讬讙讬 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诪专 住讘专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 诇讗 讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讜诪专 住讘专 诪诪诇讗讻讛 谞诪讬 讛讜讬讗 诪讜专讚转:


However, according to the one who says the rebellion is against performing tasks, is an ill woman fit to perform tasks? Since she is ill, she has no obligation to perform tasks and this is not deemed rebellious behavior. Rather, one must explain this as follows: If she rebelled against engaging in marital relations, everyone agrees that she is defined as a rebellious woman. They disagree with regard to one who rebels against performing tasks. One Sage, Rav Huna, holds that one who rebels against performing tasks is not a rebellious woman, and one Sage, Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina, holds that one who rebels against performing tasks is also considered a rebellious woman.


讙讜驻讗 讛诪讜专讚转 注诇 讘注诇讛 驻讜讞转讬谉 诇讛 诪讻转讜讘转讛 砖讘注讛 讚讬谞专讬诐 讘砖讘转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专 砖讘注讛 讟专驻注讬拽讬谉 专讘讜转讬谞讜 讞讝专讜 讜谞诪谞讜 砖讬讛讜 诪讻专讬讝讬谉 注诇讬讛 讗专讘注 砖讘转讜转 讝讜 讗讞专 讝讜 讜砖讜诇讞讬谉 诇讛 讘讬转 讚讬谉 讛讜讬 讬讜讚注转 砖讗驻讬诇讜 讻转讜讘转讬讱 诪讗讛 诪谞讛 讛驻住讚转 讗讞转 诇讬 讗专讜住讛 讜谞砖讜讗讛 讗驻讬诇讜 谞讚讛 讗驻讬诇讜 讞讜诇讛 讜讗驻讬诇讜 砖讜诪专转 讬讘诐


搂 With regard to the matter itself: A woman who rebels against her husband is fined; we reduce her marriage contract by seven dinars each week, and Rabbi Yehuda says: Seven terapa鈥檌kin. Our Sages went back and were counted again, meaning they voted and decided that instead of deducting a small amount from her marriage contract each week, they would make public announcements about her for four consecutive Shabbatot. And they decided that the court would send messengers to her to inform her: Be aware that even if your marriage contract is worth ten thousand dinars, you will lose it all if you continue your rebellion. If she does not retract her rebellion, she forfeits her entire marriage contract. With regard to this enactment, it is the same to me, meaning the halakha does not change, if she is a betrothed woman or a married woman, and even if she is a menstruating woman, and even if she is ill, and even if she is a widow awaiting her yavam to perform levirate marriage.


讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讬讜住祝 诇砖诪讜讗诇 谞讚讛 讘转 转砖诪讬砖 讛讬讗 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讗讬谞讜 讚讜诪讛 诪讬 砖讬砖 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜 诇诪讬 砖讗讬谉 诇讜 驻转 讘住诇讜


Rabbi 岣yya bar Yosef said to Shmuel: Is a menstruating woman fit to engage in conjugal relations? He said to him: One who has bread in his basket, i.e., one who knows that he will be able to engage in relations with his wife after her period of menstrual impurity ends, is not comparable to one who does not have bread in his basket.


讗诪专 专诪讬 讘专 讞诪讗 讗讬谉 诪讻专讬讝讬谉 注诇讬讛 讗诇讗 讘讘转讬 讻谞住讬讜转 讜讘讘转讬 诪讚专砖讜转 讗诪专 专讘讗 讚讬拽讗 谞诪讬 讚拽转谞讬 讗专讘注 砖讘转讜转 讝讜 讗讞专 讝讜 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛 讗诪专 专诪讬 讘专 讞诪讗 驻注诪讬诐 砖讜诇讞讬谉 诇讛 诪讘讬转 讚讬谉 讗讞转 拽讜讚诐 讛讻专讝讛 讜讗讞转 诇讗讞专 讛讻专讝讛


Rami bar 岣ma said: We make announcements about her only in synagogues and study halls, but not in the street. Rava said: The language of the baraita is also precise, as it teaches: They would make announcements on four consecutive Shabbatot, which are days when no labor is performed and people are not to be found in the streets, but rather in synagogues and study halls. The Gemara summarizes: Conclude from this that this is the case. Rami bar 岣ma said: The court sends people to talk with her twice, once before the announcement and once after the announcement.


讚专砖 专讘 谞讞诪谉 讘专 专讘 讞住讚讗 讛诇讻讛 讻专讘讜转讬谞讜 讗诪专 专讘讗 讛讗讬 讘讜专讻讗 讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘 谞讞诪谉 讘专 讬爪讞拽 诪讗讬 讘讜专讻转讬讛 讗谞讗 讗诪专讬转讛 谞讬讛诇讬讛 讜诪砖诪讬讛 讚讙讘专讗 专讘讛 讗诪专讬转讛 谞讬讛诇讬讛 讜诪谞讜 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗


Rav Na岣an bar Rav 岣sda taught with regard to this: The halakha is in accordance with the decision of our Sages. Rava said: This is an absurdity [burkha]. Rav Na岣an bar Yitz岣k said to him: What is absurd about this? I said this to him, and I said it to him in the name of a great man. And who is the great man who ruled this way? Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi 岣nina.


讜讗讬讛讜 讻诪讗谉 住讘专 讻讬 讛讗 讚讗转诪专 专讘讗 讗诪专 专讘 砖砖转 讛诇讻讛 谞诪诇讻讬谉 讘讛 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讘专 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专 专讘 砖砖转 讛诇讻讛 讗讬谉 谞诪诇讻讬谉 讘讛


The Gemara asks: And in accordance with whose opinion does Rava hold? The Gemara answers: In accordance with that which was stated: Rava said that Rav Sheshet said: The halakha is that she is consulted in an attempt to convince her to retract her decision, and while doing so deductions are made from her marriage contract. But Rav Huna bar Yehuda said that Rav Sheshet said: The halakha is that we do not consult with her. According to both versions of Rav Sheshet鈥檚 ruling, she does not lose her marriage contract immediately but rather it is reduced every week. This is the source for Rava鈥檚 opinion.


讛讬讻讬 讚诪讬讗 诪讜专讚转 讗诪专 讗诪讬诪专 讚讗诪专讛 讘注讬谞讗 诇讬讛 讜诪爪注专谞讗 诇讬讛 讗讘诇 讗诪专讛 诪讗讬住 注诇讬 诇讗 讻讬讬驻讬谞谉 诇讛 诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讗诪专 讻讬讬驻讬谞谉 诇讛


搂 With regard to this halakha, the Gemara asks: What are the circumstances in which the halakha of a rebellious woman applies? Ameimar said: The case is where she says: I want to be married to him, but I am currently refusing him because I want to cause him anguish due to a dispute between us. However, if she said: I am disgusted with him, we do not compel her to remain with him, as one should not be compelled to live with someone who disgusts her. Mar Zutra said: We do compel her to stay with him.


讛讜讛 注讜讘讚讗 讜讗讻驻讛 诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讜谞驻拽 诪讬谞讬讛 专讘讬 讞谞讬谞讗 诪住讜专讗 讜诇讗 讛讬讗 讛转诐 住讬讬注转讗 讚砖诪讬讗 讛讜讛


It is related: There was an incident in which a woman rebelled, claiming that she was disgusted with her husband, and Mar Zutra compelled her to stay with him. And from this couple issued Rabbi 岣nina of Sura. This demonstrates that even such coercion can cause a blessing. However, the Gemara concludes: That is not so. That case should not serve as a precedent, as there the positive outcome was due to heavenly assistance. Ordinarily, nothing good results from conjugal relations that the wife does not desire.


讻诇转讬讛 讚专讘 讝讘讬讚 讗讬诪专讚讗 讛讜讛 转驻讬住讗 讞讚 砖讬专讗 讬转讬讘 讗诪讬诪专 讜诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讜专讘 讗砖讬 讜讬转讬讘 专讘 讙诪讚讗 讙讘讬讬讛讜 讬转讘讬 讜拽讗诪专讬 诪专讚讛 讛驻住讬讚讛 讘诇讗讜转讬讛 拽讬讬诪讬谉 讗诪专 诇讛讜 专讘 讙诪讚讗 诪砖讜诐 讚专讘 讝讘讬讚 讙讘专讗 专讘讛 诪讞谞讬驻讬转讜 诇讬讛 讜讛讗诪专 专讘 讻讛谞讗 诪讬讘注讬讗 讘注讬 专讘讗 讜诇讗 驻砖讬讟 讗讬讻讗 讚讗诪专讬 讬转讘讬 讜拽讗诪专讬 诪专讚讛 诇讗 讛驻住讬讚讛 讘诇讗讜转讬讛 拽讬讬诪讬谉 讗诪专 诇讛讜 专讘 讙诪讚讗


It is related that the daughter-in-law of Rav Zevid rebelled against her husband. She was holding a certain garment in her hands. Ameimar, Mar Zutra, and Rav Ashi were sitting, and Rav Gamda was sitting with them. They sat and said: If a woman rebelled, she lost her right to her worn clothes, meaning she has forfeited the clothes she brought with her for her dowry even if they are still in existence. Rav Gamda said to them: Because Rav Zevid is a great man, are you willing to flatter him with regard to this halakha? Didn鈥檛 Rav Kahana say: Rava raises a dilemma about this issue with regard to worn clothes, and he did not resolve it? Yet you reached a decision out of respect for Rav Zevid. This is inappropriate. There are those who say that this incident happened differently, as these three Sages sat and said: If she rebelled, she did not lose her right to her worn clothes. Rav Gamda said to them:


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