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This week’s learning is sponsored by Sara Averick and Jose Rosenfeld in memory of Ildiko Rosenfeld, צביה רחל בת מרדכי הלוי ומרים. “She embodied elegance, grace, and wisdom.”

Today’s daf is sponsored by Caroline Ben-Ari on the 6th yahrzeit of her mother, Daphne Rhodes, דפנה דבורה בת אברהם וחנה. “Mum was a loving, vivacious woman with a great sense of humor, and was determined to be a better mother to her children than her own mother had been to her. Later in life, when she and Dad retired to Netanya, she indulged her love of singing and dramatics in the Netanya AACI Musical Theatre Group עורי עורי דבורה, עורי עורי דברי שיר.”

Today’s daf is sponsored by Risa Tzohar in loving memory of her mother Florence Rich z”l.

The impurity of rakav, dust from a corpse is limited, as noted in a braita and several statements of amoraim. The body must be without any clothing, on a floor of stone or marble, alone (not with another body) with flesh, bones and sinews, not buried with hair, nails or teeth that were removed from the body.  A question is asked regarding dust that comes from the heel as even in one’s lifetime the heel is somewhat of a dead zone in the body as its flesh is callous. After suggesting an answer, the Gemara reinterprets the question. Another set of questions is asked regarding rakav – since it is not applicable when there are two bodies that decompose together, what about a pregnant woman who died with the fetus in her womb? What about if there was semen in the woman’s body, or feces or skin? After all these questions, Rav Shmuel bar Acha says that if we limit all these cases, there will be no impurity of rakav!! To which, Rav Papa answered how there could be a case. Rakav is only when the dust is from a decomposed body and not if the body was ground into dust. What if it was ground up and then decayed? Rakav also does not apply to a body that is not whole. Two other halachot also do not apply to an incomplete corpse – tefusa (when moving a grave, one must dig up the surrounding earth as well)and a graveyard (if one finds three bodies, one needs to search the area as there may likely be the site of an ancient cemetery). A Mishna in Eduyot 6:3 is brought to raise a difficulty against this but it is resolved. Rava asks another question that the Mishna in Eduyot is brought as an answer, but that answer is rejected.

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Nazir 51

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: אֵיזֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רָקָב? מֵת שֶׁנִּקְבַּר עָרוֹם בְּאָרוֹן שֶׁל שַׁיִשׁ אוֹ עַל גַּבֵּי רִצְפָּה שֶׁל אֲבָנִים — זֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רָקָב. נִקְבַּר בִּכְסוּתוֹ, בְּאָרוֹן שֶׁל עֵץ, אוֹ עַל גַּבֵּי רִצְפָּה שֶׁל לְבֵנִים — זֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁאֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

§ The mishna taught that one of the sources of ritual impurity for which a nazirite must shave is a full ladle of dust from a corpse. The Sages taught (Tosefta, Oholot 2:3): Which is a corpse that has the halakha of dust, i.e., whose dust imparts impurity? A corpse that was buried naked in a marble coffin or on a stone floor; this is a corpse that has the halakha of dust that imparts impurity. Any dust found there must have come from the corpse. However, if it was buried in its cloak, or in a wooden coffin, or on a brick floor, this is a corpse that does not have the halakha of dust that imparts impurity. In the latter cases it is assumed that the dust from the corpse includes particles from the clothes, wood, or bricks that disintegrated, and there is a tradition that the impurity of dust applies only to dust that comes solely from the corpse, not to a mixture from different sources.

אָמַר עוּלָּא: אֵין רָקָב, אֶלָּא הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר וּמִן הַגִּידִים וּמִן הָעֲצָמוֹת. אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רָבָא לְעוּלָּא: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר טָהוֹר. הָא מִן הָעֶצֶם — טָמֵא, וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלֵיכָּא בָּשָׂר! אֵימָא הָכִי: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר — טָהוֹר, עַד שֶׁיֵּשׁ עֶצֶם בַּבָּשָׂר.

With regard to the same issue, Ulla said: Dust is only that which comes from the flesh and from the sinews and from the bones of the corpse together, but not if it came from one of these alone. Rava raised an objection to Ulla from the following baraita: Dust that comes from the flesh is pure. It can be inferred from here that if it comes from the bone it is impure, even though there is no dust of flesh mixed with it. Ulla replied: You should say and infer like this: Dust that comes from the flesh is pure, unless there is bone in the flesh.

הָא לֵיכָּא גִּידִים! אִי אֶפְשָׁר לְבָשָׂר וְלַעֲצָמוֹת בְּלֹא גִּידִים.

Rava continued to question Ulla’s opinion: Even if one interprets the baraita in this manner, there is no mention of sinews here at all, and Ulla maintains that sinews must also contribute to the makeup of part of the dust. Ulla replied that there is no need to mention sinews explicitly, as it is impossible for there to be flesh and bones without sinews. Once it is established that the dust is from bones and flesh, it necessarily includes sinews as well.

אָמַר רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: שְׁנֵי מֵתִים שֶׁקְּבָרָן זֶה עִם זֶה — נַעֲשׂוּ גַּלְגַּלִּין זֶה לָזֶה. מֵתִיב רַב נָתָן: רָקָב הַבָּא מִשְּׁנֵי מֵתִים — טָמֵא!

§ The Gemara continues to discuss the dust of a corpse. Rav Shmuel bar Abba said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Two corpses that were buried with one another become a mixture [galgallin] with one another. Their dust is considered mixed together and does not impart the impurity of the dust from a single corpse. Rav Natan raises an objection to this opinion: But it is taught that dust that comes from two corpses is impure.

אָמַר רָבָא: שֶׁקָּבְרוּ זֶה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמוֹ וְזֶה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמוֹ, וְהִרְקִיבוּ, וְעָמְדוּ עַל מְלֹא תַּרְווֹד רָקָב.

Rava said: That baraita is referring to a case where they buried this corpse by itself and that corpse by itself, and they decayed separately, and they both stood at, i.e., yielded the amount of, a full ladle of dust. In this situation, the dust imparts impurity despite the fact that it is not from a single corpse, as the status of dust from a corpse initially applied to each corpse. However, if the corpses decayed together they are considered to be mixed together, which means that their dust does not impart impurity.

אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: גָּזַז שְׂעָרוֹ וּקְבָרוֹ עִמּוֹ — נַעֲשָׂה לוֹ גַּלְגַּלִּין. תְּנַן הָתָם: כׇּל שֶׁבַּמֵּת טָמֵא, חוּץ מִן הַשִּׁינַּיִם וְהַשֵּׂעָר וְהַצִּפּוֹרֶן. וּבִשְׁעַת חִיבּוּרָן — כּוּלָּן טְמֵאִין.

The Gemara cites a further statement with regard to dust of a corpse. Rabba bar bar Ḥana said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If one cut the hair of a corpse and buried the hair with it, the hair becomes part of the mixture for the dust, and it does not impart impurity. In relation to the above, the Gemara states: We learned in a mishna there (Oholot 3:3): Everything that is in a corpse is impure, except for the teeth, the hair, and the nails, which do not impart impurity as part of the body. But when they are attached to the corpse, they are all impure.

בָּעֵי חִזְקִיָּה: שְׂעָרוֹ הָעוֹמֵד לְגַלֵּחַ, צִפּוֹרֶן הָעוֹמֵד לִיגָּזֵז, מַאי? מִי אָמְרִינַן: כׇּל הָעוֹמֵד לִיגָּזֵז כְּגָזוּז דָּמֵי, אוֹ דִלְמָא הַשְׁתָּא מִיהָא הָא מְחוּבָּרִין?

With regard to this halakha, Ḥizkiyya raised a dilemma: If hair of a corpse is ready to be shaved, or its nail is ready to be cut, what is the halakha? Do we say that anything that is ready to be cut is considered cut, and therefore these are considered detached from the body and do not impart impurity? Or, perhaps now, in any event, they are attached, and therefore they should impart impurity?

וְנִיפְשׁוֹט לֵיהּ מִדְּרַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה: טַעְמָא מִשּׁוּם דְּגָזַז, הָא לֹא גָּזַז — לָא! הָכִי קָאָמַר: גָּזַז — הֲרֵי זֶה גַּלְגַּלִּים. לֹא גָּזַז — מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ.

The Gemara asks: And let Ḥizkiyya resolve this dilemma from the aforementioned statement of Rabba bar bar Ḥana, that hair buried with a corpse forms a mixture with the corpse. The inference is as follows: The reason that it forms a mixture is because he cut the hair, from which it may be inferred if he did not cut the hair it would not form a mixture, even if it was ready to be cut. The Gemara rejects this argument: One can respond that this is what Rabba bar bar Ḥana is saying: If he cut it, it definitely forms a mixture; if he did not cut it, Rabba bar bar Ḥana is unsure as to the halakha and he raises this case as a dilemma.

בָּעֵי רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הֶעָקֵב מַהוּ? כִּי גָּמְרִינַן רָקָב הַבָּא מִכּוּלֵּיהּ מֵת, אֲבָל דְּאָתֵי מִן עָקֵב — לָא, אוֹ דִלְמָא לָא שְׁנָא?

§ Rabbi Yirmeya raised another dilemma concerning the dust of a corpse: With regard to dust that comes from the heel, what is the halakha? The Gemara explains the two sides of the dilemma: Do we say that when we learn this halakha through tradition, is it only in reference to dust that comes from all of a corpse, but with regard to dust that comes from its heel, no, this halakha does not apply; or perhaps it is no different?

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּתָנֵי רַבִּי נָתָן בְּרַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: רָקָב הַבָּא מִשְּׁנֵי מֵתִים — טָמֵא. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ הַבָּא מִן הֶעָקֵב לָא, זִיל הָכָא — דִּלְמָא דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב קָאָתֵי, וְהָכָא — דִּלְמָא דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב קָאָתֵי?

The Gemara suggests a resolution of this dilemma: Come and hear, as Rabbi Natan, son of Rabbi Oshaya, taught: Dust that comes from two corpses is impure. And if it enters your mind that dust that comes from the heel does not impart impurity, go here and consider that perhaps the dust came from the heel, and go here too and consider that perhaps it came from the heel. The fact that the dust is considered definitely impure shows that dust from the heel imparts impurity as well.

אִי דְּאִירְקִיב כּוּלֵּיהּ מֵת וְקָאָתֵי דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב — הָכִי נָמֵי. אֶלָּא הָכָא כְּגוֹן דְּאִירְקִיב חַד אֵבֶר, וְקָאָתֵי דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב. מַאי? תֵּיקוּ.

The Gemara rejects this argument: If the entire corpse decayed and the dust came from the heel, so too, it is all impure, as the dust of the heel is not considered to be a foreign substance. Rather, here Rabbi Natan is referring to a case where one limb decayed and the dust came from the heel. It was with regard to this situation that Rabbi Yirmeya asked: What is its halakha? Does this dust impart impurity or not? No answer was found, and therefore the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.

בָּעֵי רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: עוּבָּר בִּמְעֵי אִשָּׁה, הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּים, אוֹ לָא? כֵּיוָן דְּאָמַר מָר עוּבָּר יֶרֶךְ אִמּוֹ — הִלְכָּךְ גּוּפַהּ הוּא, וְלָא הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּין, אוֹ דִלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּסוֹפוֹ לָצֵאת — מִיפְרָשׁ פָּרֵישׁ מִינַּהּ. וְאִם תִּמְצֵי לוֹמַר עוּבָּר דְּסוֹפוֹ לָצֵאת מִיפְרָשׁ פָּרֵישׁ מִינַּהּ,

§ Rabbi Yirmeya raised yet another dilemma: Does a dead fetus in its dead mother’s womb form a mixture with regard to her, so that the bodies are considered like two corpses buried together, or not? The Gemara explains the two sides of the dilemma: Do we say that since the Master said that a fetus is considered as the thigh of its mother, it is therefore like her body and it does not form a mixture with it? Or perhaps one should maintain: Since in most cases a fetus will ultimately emerge from the womb at birth, it is already considered separated from her, and it is like any other corpse buried with the woman. And if you say that a fetus, which will ultimately emerge, is considered separated from her and is not part of her body, one must still ask this question

שִׁכְבַת זֶרַע בִּמְעֵי אִשָּׁה, מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן כֵּיוָן דְּלָא אִיתְּצַר — כִּי גוּפַהּ דָּמֵי, אוֹ דִלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּמֵעָלְמָא קָאָתֵי — לָא?

with regard to semen in a dead woman’s womb. What is the halakha in this case? Does it form a mixture with respect to the woman’s body? The Gemara explains the two sides of this dilemma: Do we say that since no fetus was formed from the semen, it is considered like her body? Or, perhaps one should argue that since it comes from outside, it is not considered part of her body.

בָּעֵי רַב פָּפָּא: פִּירְשָׁהּ, מַהוּ? כֵּיוָן דְּלָא מִקַּיְימָא בִּדְלָא אָכְלָה — חַיּוּתָא הוּא, אוֹ דִלְמָא הָא נָמֵי מֵעָלְמָא אָתֵי? בָּעֵי רַב אַחָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב אִיקָא: עוֹרוֹ מַהוּ? בָּעֵי רַב הוּנָא בַּר מָנוֹחַ: כִּיחוֹ וְנִיעוֹ מַהוּ?

Rav Pappa raised a similar dilemma: With regard to her excrement, the food waste that remains in a woman’s intestines, what is the halakha? Once again, the Gemara explains the two sides of this dilemma: Do we say that since she cannot subsist without food it is considered her life, which means that the food left inside her body is part of her and does not form a mixture with the corpse? Or perhaps this too comes from outside and is therefore not part of her body, and does form a mixture with her corpse. Similarly, Rav Aḥa, son of Rav Ika, raised a dilemma concerning a corpse: With regard to its skin, what is the halakha? Rav Huna bar Manoaḥ likewise raised a dilemma: With regard to its phlegm and its spittle, what is the halakha?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אַחָא לְרַב פָּפָּא: וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ כׇּל הָנֵי דְּקָאָמַר הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּין, רָקָב דִּמְטַמֵּא הֵיכִי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ! דְּאַשְׁקְיֵיהּ מֵי דְקָלִים, וְסַכְיֵא נָשָׁא, וּשְׁלָקוֹ בְּמֵי טְבֶרְיָא.

Rav Shmuel bar Aḥa said to Rav Pappa: But if it enters your mind that all these cases of which they spoke form a mixture, under what circumstances do you find this case of dust that imparts impurity? Dust from a corpse will always include some components of the aforementioned elements. The Gemara answers: It is possible. For example, if someone was given palm water [mei dekalim], a powerful laxative, to drink before he died, and was rubbed with a depilatory agent to remove his hair, and was boiled after death in the hot waters of Tiberias until the skin came off, this would remove all matter that is not part of the corpse itself.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, נָקְטִינַן: מֵת שֶׁטְּחָנוֹ — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב. אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: טְחָנוֹ וְחָזַר וְהִרְקִיב, מַהוּ? מִידֵּי הוּא טַעְמָא אֶלָּא דְּאִיכָּא בָּשָׂר וְגִידִים וַעֲצָמוֹת, וְהָאִיכָּא. אוֹ דִּלְמָא כִּבְרִיָּיתוֹ בָּעִינַן, וְלֵיכָּא? תֵּיקוּ.

Abaye said: We have a tradition that a corpse that was ground into small pieces has no halakha of dust. A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If a corpse was ground after death and the remains later decayed, what is the halakha? The Gemara clarifies the two sides of the dilemma: Is the halakha of dust of a corpse only due to the fact that there is flesh and sinews and bones, and all these are present in this case, so it is impure? Or perhaps, we require the corpse to have decayed from its initial state, before it was ground, and this is not the situation here. As was the case with regard to the previous inquiries, no answer was found, and the Gemara says that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.

תָּנֵי עוּלָּא בַּר חֲנִינָא: מֵת שֶׁחָסַר — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב וְלֹא תְּפוּסָה וְלֹא שְׁכוּנַת קְבָרוֹת.

§ Ulla bar Ḥanina teaches: A corpse that lacks a part does not have the halakha of dust, which imparts ritual impurity in the amount of a full ladle, nor the halakha of earth that is caught [tefusa] and considered part of a corpse. If a deficient corpse is moved, the surrounding earth is not considered part of it and need not be moved together with the body, as must be performed for a whole corpse. Nor does the halakha of a graveyard apply. If three corpses are discovered in close proximity and one of them is deficient in some way, one need not search for more bodies out of concern that the location might have been a cemetery, as must be done if three intact corpses are found. Rather, the bodies are considered isolated corpses.

מֵיתִיבִי: לֹא, אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְּמֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רוֹב וְרוֹבַע אוֹ מְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב — תֹּאמַר בְּחַי, שֶׁאֵין לוֹ לֹא רוֹב, וְלֹא רוֹבַע, וְלֹא מְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב?!

The Gemara raises an objection from a mishna (Eduyyot 6:3) that addresses the question of whether an olive-bulk of flesh that came from a living person imparts ritual impurity as it would were it to come from a corpse: No, if you say that an olive-bulk of flesh imparts impurity with regard to a corpse, whose halakhot of impurity are stringent, as the majority of its structure or the majority of the number of its bones, or a quarter-kav of its bones, or even a full ladle of its dust impart impurity, shall you also say that it imparts impurity with regard to a living person, who does not have the halakha of the majority of structure or the majority of the number of its bones, nor a quarter-kav, nor a full ladle of dust?

הֵיכִי דָּמֵי — דְּאַרְקִיב חַד אֵבֶר, דִּכְווֹתֵיהּ גַּבֵּי מֵת: אֲפִילּוּ חַד אֵבֶר אִיכָּא רָקָב! מִי קָתָנֵי הָא מֵת? הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן: שׁוּם מֵת — יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב, שׁוּם חַי — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

The Gemara analyzes this passage: What are the circumstances of that mishna that deals with a limb from a living person? If you say that one limb of a living person decayed, and the mishna is indicating that in the corresponding situation with regard to a corpse, there is dust even from one limb. This shows that the halakha of dust applies to a corpse that is missing a limb and not just to a complete corpse. The Gemara rejects this argument: Did the mishna teach that this corpse in that particular case of an isolated limb has the halakha of dust? That is merely an inference, as it is not stated explicitly in the mishna itself. Rather, the mishna teaches us this: The name, i.e., the category, of a corpse has dust. However, the name of a living person does not have dust.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: הִרְקִיב כְּשֶׁהוּא חַי, וְחָזַר וּמֵת, מַהוּ? כִּי גְּמִירִי רָקָב, דְּאִירְקִיב כְּשֶׁהוּא מֵת. אוֹ דִלְמָא הַשְׁתָּא מִיהָא הָא מָיֵית?

Rava raised a dilemma: If a limb of a body decayed when he was alive, and that individual subsequently died, what is the halakha? Do we say that when this is learned as a tradition that dust imparts ritual impurity, this applies only if the body decayed when he was dead, but not when he was alive, and therefore this corpse is considered deficient and its dust does not impart impurity? Or perhaps, now in any event he is dead, and his whole body has decomposed, and consequently its dust does impart impurity.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְּמֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רוֹב וְרוֹבַע וּמְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב, תֹּאמַר בְּחַי כּוּ׳.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear the aforementioned mishna: No, if you say that an olive-bulk of flesh imparts impurity with regard to a corpse, whose halakhot of impurity are stringent, as the majority of its structure or the majority of the number of its bones, or a quarter-kav of its bones, or even a full ladle of its dust imparts impurity, shall you also say that it imparts impurity with regard to a living person, who does not have the halakha of the majority of structure or the majority of the number of its bones, nor a quarter-kav, nor a full ladle of dust.

טַעְמָא מִשּׁוּם חַי, הָא מֵת יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב! מִי קָתָנֵי הָא מֵת? הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דְּשׁוּם מֵת — יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב, שׁוּם חַי — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

The Gemara infers from this passage: The reason the olive-bulk of flesh does not impart impurity is due to the fact that it is from a living person, from which it may be inferred that in a corresponding situation involving a corpse, the corpse has the halakha of dust, even if the limb had decomposed during the deceased’s lifetime. The Gemara rejects this contention as above: Did the mishna teach that this corpse in that particular case of an isolated limb has the halakha of dust? That is merely an inference, as it is not stated explicitly in the mishna itself. Rather, the mishna teaches us this: The name, i.e., the category, of a corpse has dust. However, the name of a living person does not have dust.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: נְמָלָה שֶׁחָסְרָה, מַהוּ? שִׁיעוּרָא גְּמִירִין לַהּ — וְהָא חֲסַר. אוֹ בְּרִיָּה גְּמִירִי לַהּ — וְהָאִיכָּא.

§ In relation to the above discussion concerning a body without a limb, Rava raised a dilemma: If someone eats an entire ant, even if it is less than an olive-bulk in volume, he is liable for eating a creeping animal because it is a whole creature. Rava’s dilemma was as follows: If one eats an ant that lacks a part, e.g., a leg, what is the halakha? Is this individual liable to receive lashes? The two possibilities are as follows: Is it learned as tradition that the amount for which one is liable is a whole ant, and this one is lacking? Or did we learn that he is punished for a viable entity, and there is a viable entity here, despite the missing limb?

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Nazir 51

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: אֵיזֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רָקָב? מֵת שֶׁנִּקְבַּר עָרוֹם בְּאָרוֹן שֶׁל שַׁיִשׁ אוֹ עַל גַּבֵּי רִצְפָּה שֶׁל אֲבָנִים — זֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רָקָב. נִקְבַּר בִּכְסוּתוֹ, בְּאָרוֹן שֶׁל עֵץ, אוֹ עַל גַּבֵּי רִצְפָּה שֶׁל לְבֵנִים — זֶהוּ מֵת שֶׁאֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

§ The mishna taught that one of the sources of ritual impurity for which a nazirite must shave is a full ladle of dust from a corpse. The Sages taught (Tosefta, Oholot 2:3): Which is a corpse that has the halakha of dust, i.e., whose dust imparts impurity? A corpse that was buried naked in a marble coffin or on a stone floor; this is a corpse that has the halakha of dust that imparts impurity. Any dust found there must have come from the corpse. However, if it was buried in its cloak, or in a wooden coffin, or on a brick floor, this is a corpse that does not have the halakha of dust that imparts impurity. In the latter cases it is assumed that the dust from the corpse includes particles from the clothes, wood, or bricks that disintegrated, and there is a tradition that the impurity of dust applies only to dust that comes solely from the corpse, not to a mixture from different sources.

אָמַר עוּלָּא: אֵין רָקָב, אֶלָּא הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר וּמִן הַגִּידִים וּמִן הָעֲצָמוֹת. אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רָבָא לְעוּלָּא: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר טָהוֹר. הָא מִן הָעֶצֶם — טָמֵא, וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלֵיכָּא בָּשָׂר! אֵימָא הָכִי: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הַבָּשָׂר — טָהוֹר, עַד שֶׁיֵּשׁ עֶצֶם בַּבָּשָׂר.

With regard to the same issue, Ulla said: Dust is only that which comes from the flesh and from the sinews and from the bones of the corpse together, but not if it came from one of these alone. Rava raised an objection to Ulla from the following baraita: Dust that comes from the flesh is pure. It can be inferred from here that if it comes from the bone it is impure, even though there is no dust of flesh mixed with it. Ulla replied: You should say and infer like this: Dust that comes from the flesh is pure, unless there is bone in the flesh.

הָא לֵיכָּא גִּידִים! אִי אֶפְשָׁר לְבָשָׂר וְלַעֲצָמוֹת בְּלֹא גִּידִים.

Rava continued to question Ulla’s opinion: Even if one interprets the baraita in this manner, there is no mention of sinews here at all, and Ulla maintains that sinews must also contribute to the makeup of part of the dust. Ulla replied that there is no need to mention sinews explicitly, as it is impossible for there to be flesh and bones without sinews. Once it is established that the dust is from bones and flesh, it necessarily includes sinews as well.

אָמַר רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: שְׁנֵי מֵתִים שֶׁקְּבָרָן זֶה עִם זֶה — נַעֲשׂוּ גַּלְגַּלִּין זֶה לָזֶה. מֵתִיב רַב נָתָן: רָקָב הַבָּא מִשְּׁנֵי מֵתִים — טָמֵא!

§ The Gemara continues to discuss the dust of a corpse. Rav Shmuel bar Abba said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Two corpses that were buried with one another become a mixture [galgallin] with one another. Their dust is considered mixed together and does not impart the impurity of the dust from a single corpse. Rav Natan raises an objection to this opinion: But it is taught that dust that comes from two corpses is impure.

אָמַר רָבָא: שֶׁקָּבְרוּ זֶה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמוֹ וְזֶה בִּפְנֵי עַצְמוֹ, וְהִרְקִיבוּ, וְעָמְדוּ עַל מְלֹא תַּרְווֹד רָקָב.

Rava said: That baraita is referring to a case where they buried this corpse by itself and that corpse by itself, and they decayed separately, and they both stood at, i.e., yielded the amount of, a full ladle of dust. In this situation, the dust imparts impurity despite the fact that it is not from a single corpse, as the status of dust from a corpse initially applied to each corpse. However, if the corpses decayed together they are considered to be mixed together, which means that their dust does not impart impurity.

אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: גָּזַז שְׂעָרוֹ וּקְבָרוֹ עִמּוֹ — נַעֲשָׂה לוֹ גַּלְגַּלִּין. תְּנַן הָתָם: כׇּל שֶׁבַּמֵּת טָמֵא, חוּץ מִן הַשִּׁינַּיִם וְהַשֵּׂעָר וְהַצִּפּוֹרֶן. וּבִשְׁעַת חִיבּוּרָן — כּוּלָּן טְמֵאִין.

The Gemara cites a further statement with regard to dust of a corpse. Rabba bar bar Ḥana said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: If one cut the hair of a corpse and buried the hair with it, the hair becomes part of the mixture for the dust, and it does not impart impurity. In relation to the above, the Gemara states: We learned in a mishna there (Oholot 3:3): Everything that is in a corpse is impure, except for the teeth, the hair, and the nails, which do not impart impurity as part of the body. But when they are attached to the corpse, they are all impure.

בָּעֵי חִזְקִיָּה: שְׂעָרוֹ הָעוֹמֵד לְגַלֵּחַ, צִפּוֹרֶן הָעוֹמֵד לִיגָּזֵז, מַאי? מִי אָמְרִינַן: כׇּל הָעוֹמֵד לִיגָּזֵז כְּגָזוּז דָּמֵי, אוֹ דִלְמָא הַשְׁתָּא מִיהָא הָא מְחוּבָּרִין?

With regard to this halakha, Ḥizkiyya raised a dilemma: If hair of a corpse is ready to be shaved, or its nail is ready to be cut, what is the halakha? Do we say that anything that is ready to be cut is considered cut, and therefore these are considered detached from the body and do not impart impurity? Or, perhaps now, in any event, they are attached, and therefore they should impart impurity?

וְנִיפְשׁוֹט לֵיהּ מִדְּרַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה: טַעְמָא מִשּׁוּם דְּגָזַז, הָא לֹא גָּזַז — לָא! הָכִי קָאָמַר: גָּזַז — הֲרֵי זֶה גַּלְגַּלִּים. לֹא גָּזַז — מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ.

The Gemara asks: And let Ḥizkiyya resolve this dilemma from the aforementioned statement of Rabba bar bar Ḥana, that hair buried with a corpse forms a mixture with the corpse. The inference is as follows: The reason that it forms a mixture is because he cut the hair, from which it may be inferred if he did not cut the hair it would not form a mixture, even if it was ready to be cut. The Gemara rejects this argument: One can respond that this is what Rabba bar bar Ḥana is saying: If he cut it, it definitely forms a mixture; if he did not cut it, Rabba bar bar Ḥana is unsure as to the halakha and he raises this case as a dilemma.

בָּעֵי רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: רָקָב הַבָּא מִן הֶעָקֵב מַהוּ? כִּי גָּמְרִינַן רָקָב הַבָּא מִכּוּלֵּיהּ מֵת, אֲבָל דְּאָתֵי מִן עָקֵב — לָא, אוֹ דִלְמָא לָא שְׁנָא?

§ Rabbi Yirmeya raised another dilemma concerning the dust of a corpse: With regard to dust that comes from the heel, what is the halakha? The Gemara explains the two sides of the dilemma: Do we say that when we learn this halakha through tradition, is it only in reference to dust that comes from all of a corpse, but with regard to dust that comes from its heel, no, this halakha does not apply; or perhaps it is no different?

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּתָנֵי רַבִּי נָתָן בְּרַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: רָקָב הַבָּא מִשְּׁנֵי מֵתִים — טָמֵא. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ הַבָּא מִן הֶעָקֵב לָא, זִיל הָכָא — דִּלְמָא דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב קָאָתֵי, וְהָכָא — דִּלְמָא דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב קָאָתֵי?

The Gemara suggests a resolution of this dilemma: Come and hear, as Rabbi Natan, son of Rabbi Oshaya, taught: Dust that comes from two corpses is impure. And if it enters your mind that dust that comes from the heel does not impart impurity, go here and consider that perhaps the dust came from the heel, and go here too and consider that perhaps it came from the heel. The fact that the dust is considered definitely impure shows that dust from the heel imparts impurity as well.

אִי דְּאִירְקִיב כּוּלֵּיהּ מֵת וְקָאָתֵי דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב — הָכִי נָמֵי. אֶלָּא הָכָא כְּגוֹן דְּאִירְקִיב חַד אֵבֶר, וְקָאָתֵי דֶּרֶךְ עָקֵב. מַאי? תֵּיקוּ.

The Gemara rejects this argument: If the entire corpse decayed and the dust came from the heel, so too, it is all impure, as the dust of the heel is not considered to be a foreign substance. Rather, here Rabbi Natan is referring to a case where one limb decayed and the dust came from the heel. It was with regard to this situation that Rabbi Yirmeya asked: What is its halakha? Does this dust impart impurity or not? No answer was found, and therefore the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.

בָּעֵי רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: עוּבָּר בִּמְעֵי אִשָּׁה, הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּים, אוֹ לָא? כֵּיוָן דְּאָמַר מָר עוּבָּר יֶרֶךְ אִמּוֹ — הִלְכָּךְ גּוּפַהּ הוּא, וְלָא הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּין, אוֹ דִלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּסוֹפוֹ לָצֵאת — מִיפְרָשׁ פָּרֵישׁ מִינַּהּ. וְאִם תִּמְצֵי לוֹמַר עוּבָּר דְּסוֹפוֹ לָצֵאת מִיפְרָשׁ פָּרֵישׁ מִינַּהּ,

§ Rabbi Yirmeya raised yet another dilemma: Does a dead fetus in its dead mother’s womb form a mixture with regard to her, so that the bodies are considered like two corpses buried together, or not? The Gemara explains the two sides of the dilemma: Do we say that since the Master said that a fetus is considered as the thigh of its mother, it is therefore like her body and it does not form a mixture with it? Or perhaps one should maintain: Since in most cases a fetus will ultimately emerge from the womb at birth, it is already considered separated from her, and it is like any other corpse buried with the woman. And if you say that a fetus, which will ultimately emerge, is considered separated from her and is not part of her body, one must still ask this question

שִׁכְבַת זֶרַע בִּמְעֵי אִשָּׁה, מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן כֵּיוָן דְּלָא אִיתְּצַר — כִּי גוּפַהּ דָּמֵי, אוֹ דִלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּמֵעָלְמָא קָאָתֵי — לָא?

with regard to semen in a dead woman’s womb. What is the halakha in this case? Does it form a mixture with respect to the woman’s body? The Gemara explains the two sides of this dilemma: Do we say that since no fetus was formed from the semen, it is considered like her body? Or, perhaps one should argue that since it comes from outside, it is not considered part of her body.

בָּעֵי רַב פָּפָּא: פִּירְשָׁהּ, מַהוּ? כֵּיוָן דְּלָא מִקַּיְימָא בִּדְלָא אָכְלָה — חַיּוּתָא הוּא, אוֹ דִלְמָא הָא נָמֵי מֵעָלְמָא אָתֵי? בָּעֵי רַב אַחָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב אִיקָא: עוֹרוֹ מַהוּ? בָּעֵי רַב הוּנָא בַּר מָנוֹחַ: כִּיחוֹ וְנִיעוֹ מַהוּ?

Rav Pappa raised a similar dilemma: With regard to her excrement, the food waste that remains in a woman’s intestines, what is the halakha? Once again, the Gemara explains the two sides of this dilemma: Do we say that since she cannot subsist without food it is considered her life, which means that the food left inside her body is part of her and does not form a mixture with the corpse? Or perhaps this too comes from outside and is therefore not part of her body, and does form a mixture with her corpse. Similarly, Rav Aḥa, son of Rav Ika, raised a dilemma concerning a corpse: With regard to its skin, what is the halakha? Rav Huna bar Manoaḥ likewise raised a dilemma: With regard to its phlegm and its spittle, what is the halakha?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אַחָא לְרַב פָּפָּא: וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ כׇּל הָנֵי דְּקָאָמַר הָוֵי גַּלְגַּלִּין, רָקָב דִּמְטַמֵּא הֵיכִי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ! דְּאַשְׁקְיֵיהּ מֵי דְקָלִים, וְסַכְיֵא נָשָׁא, וּשְׁלָקוֹ בְּמֵי טְבֶרְיָא.

Rav Shmuel bar Aḥa said to Rav Pappa: But if it enters your mind that all these cases of which they spoke form a mixture, under what circumstances do you find this case of dust that imparts impurity? Dust from a corpse will always include some components of the aforementioned elements. The Gemara answers: It is possible. For example, if someone was given palm water [mei dekalim], a powerful laxative, to drink before he died, and was rubbed with a depilatory agent to remove his hair, and was boiled after death in the hot waters of Tiberias until the skin came off, this would remove all matter that is not part of the corpse itself.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, נָקְטִינַן: מֵת שֶׁטְּחָנוֹ — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב. אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: טְחָנוֹ וְחָזַר וְהִרְקִיב, מַהוּ? מִידֵּי הוּא טַעְמָא אֶלָּא דְּאִיכָּא בָּשָׂר וְגִידִים וַעֲצָמוֹת, וְהָאִיכָּא. אוֹ דִּלְמָא כִּבְרִיָּיתוֹ בָּעִינַן, וְלֵיכָּא? תֵּיקוּ.

Abaye said: We have a tradition that a corpse that was ground into small pieces has no halakha of dust. A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If a corpse was ground after death and the remains later decayed, what is the halakha? The Gemara clarifies the two sides of the dilemma: Is the halakha of dust of a corpse only due to the fact that there is flesh and sinews and bones, and all these are present in this case, so it is impure? Or perhaps, we require the corpse to have decayed from its initial state, before it was ground, and this is not the situation here. As was the case with regard to the previous inquiries, no answer was found, and the Gemara says that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.

תָּנֵי עוּלָּא בַּר חֲנִינָא: מֵת שֶׁחָסַר — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב וְלֹא תְּפוּסָה וְלֹא שְׁכוּנַת קְבָרוֹת.

§ Ulla bar Ḥanina teaches: A corpse that lacks a part does not have the halakha of dust, which imparts ritual impurity in the amount of a full ladle, nor the halakha of earth that is caught [tefusa] and considered part of a corpse. If a deficient corpse is moved, the surrounding earth is not considered part of it and need not be moved together with the body, as must be performed for a whole corpse. Nor does the halakha of a graveyard apply. If three corpses are discovered in close proximity and one of them is deficient in some way, one need not search for more bodies out of concern that the location might have been a cemetery, as must be done if three intact corpses are found. Rather, the bodies are considered isolated corpses.

מֵיתִיבִי: לֹא, אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְּמֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רוֹב וְרוֹבַע אוֹ מְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב — תֹּאמַר בְּחַי, שֶׁאֵין לוֹ לֹא רוֹב, וְלֹא רוֹבַע, וְלֹא מְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב?!

The Gemara raises an objection from a mishna (Eduyyot 6:3) that addresses the question of whether an olive-bulk of flesh that came from a living person imparts ritual impurity as it would were it to come from a corpse: No, if you say that an olive-bulk of flesh imparts impurity with regard to a corpse, whose halakhot of impurity are stringent, as the majority of its structure or the majority of the number of its bones, or a quarter-kav of its bones, or even a full ladle of its dust impart impurity, shall you also say that it imparts impurity with regard to a living person, who does not have the halakha of the majority of structure or the majority of the number of its bones, nor a quarter-kav, nor a full ladle of dust?

הֵיכִי דָּמֵי — דְּאַרְקִיב חַד אֵבֶר, דִּכְווֹתֵיהּ גַּבֵּי מֵת: אֲפִילּוּ חַד אֵבֶר אִיכָּא רָקָב! מִי קָתָנֵי הָא מֵת? הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן: שׁוּם מֵת — יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב, שׁוּם חַי — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

The Gemara analyzes this passage: What are the circumstances of that mishna that deals with a limb from a living person? If you say that one limb of a living person decayed, and the mishna is indicating that in the corresponding situation with regard to a corpse, there is dust even from one limb. This shows that the halakha of dust applies to a corpse that is missing a limb and not just to a complete corpse. The Gemara rejects this argument: Did the mishna teach that this corpse in that particular case of an isolated limb has the halakha of dust? That is merely an inference, as it is not stated explicitly in the mishna itself. Rather, the mishna teaches us this: The name, i.e., the category, of a corpse has dust. However, the name of a living person does not have dust.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: הִרְקִיב כְּשֶׁהוּא חַי, וְחָזַר וּמֵת, מַהוּ? כִּי גְּמִירִי רָקָב, דְּאִירְקִיב כְּשֶׁהוּא מֵת. אוֹ דִלְמָא הַשְׁתָּא מִיהָא הָא מָיֵית?

Rava raised a dilemma: If a limb of a body decayed when he was alive, and that individual subsequently died, what is the halakha? Do we say that when this is learned as a tradition that dust imparts ritual impurity, this applies only if the body decayed when he was dead, but not when he was alive, and therefore this corpse is considered deficient and its dust does not impart impurity? Or perhaps, now in any event he is dead, and his whole body has decomposed, and consequently its dust does impart impurity.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְּמֵת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רוֹב וְרוֹבַע וּמְלֹא תַרְווֹד רָקָב, תֹּאמַר בְּחַי כּוּ׳.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear the aforementioned mishna: No, if you say that an olive-bulk of flesh imparts impurity with regard to a corpse, whose halakhot of impurity are stringent, as the majority of its structure or the majority of the number of its bones, or a quarter-kav of its bones, or even a full ladle of its dust imparts impurity, shall you also say that it imparts impurity with regard to a living person, who does not have the halakha of the majority of structure or the majority of the number of its bones, nor a quarter-kav, nor a full ladle of dust.

טַעְמָא מִשּׁוּם חַי, הָא מֵת יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב! מִי קָתָנֵי הָא מֵת? הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דְּשׁוּם מֵת — יֵשׁ לוֹ רָקָב, שׁוּם חַי — אֵין לוֹ רָקָב.

The Gemara infers from this passage: The reason the olive-bulk of flesh does not impart impurity is due to the fact that it is from a living person, from which it may be inferred that in a corresponding situation involving a corpse, the corpse has the halakha of dust, even if the limb had decomposed during the deceased’s lifetime. The Gemara rejects this contention as above: Did the mishna teach that this corpse in that particular case of an isolated limb has the halakha of dust? That is merely an inference, as it is not stated explicitly in the mishna itself. Rather, the mishna teaches us this: The name, i.e., the category, of a corpse has dust. However, the name of a living person does not have dust.

בָּעֵי רָבָא: נְמָלָה שֶׁחָסְרָה, מַהוּ? שִׁיעוּרָא גְּמִירִין לַהּ — וְהָא חֲסַר. אוֹ בְּרִיָּה גְּמִירִי לַהּ — וְהָאִיכָּא.

§ In relation to the above discussion concerning a body without a limb, Rava raised a dilemma: If someone eats an entire ant, even if it is less than an olive-bulk in volume, he is liable for eating a creeping animal because it is a whole creature. Rava’s dilemma was as follows: If one eats an ant that lacks a part, e.g., a leg, what is the halakha? Is this individual liable to receive lashes? The two possibilities are as follows: Is it learned as tradition that the amount for which one is liable is a whole ant, and this one is lacking? Or did we learn that he is punished for a viable entity, and there is a viable entity here, despite the missing limb?

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