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June 10, 2018 | ื›ืดื– ื‘ืกื™ื•ืŸ ืชืฉืขืดื—

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Zevachim 58

In the mishna Rabbi Yosi and Rabbi Yosi the son of Rabbi Yehuda debate whether kodshai kodashim can be slaughtered on the whole altar or only on the northern half. Rabbi Yochana derived from here that Rabbi Yosi holds that the altar must have been fully on the northern side of the azara. Rabbi Zeira questions this. He then tries to derive from a mishna that Rabib Yossi holds this way but his proof is rejected.


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ืžืชื ื™ืณ ืงื“ืฉื™ ืงื“ืฉื™ื ืฉืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืื•ืžืจ ื›ืื™ืœื• ื ืฉื—ื˜ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืžื—ืฆื™ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ืœื“ืจื•ื ื›ื“ืจื•ื ืžื—ืฆื™ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ืœืฆืคื•ืŸ ื›ืฆืคื•ืŸ


MISHNA: It was taught in the previous chapter that offerings of the most sacred order are to be slaughtered in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. With regard to offerings of the most sacred order that one slaughtered atop the altar, Rabbi Yosei says: Their status is as though they were slaughtered in the north, and the offerings are therefore valid. Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, says: The status of the area from the halfway point of the altar and to the south is like that of the south, and offerings of the most sacred order slaughtered in that area are therefore disqualified. The status of the area from the halfway point of the altar and to the north is like that of the north.


ื’ืžืณ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืื•ืžืจ ื”ื™ื” ืจืณ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืงืื™ ื•ืžืื™ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืžื”ื• ื“ืชื™ืžื ื‘ืขื™ื ืŸ ื™ืจืš ื•ืœื™ื›ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ


GEMARA: Rav Asi says that Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Rabbi Yosei used to say: The entire altar stands in the north section of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara asks: And what is the meaning of Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s statement that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order atop the altar it is as though they were slaughtered in the north, which indicates that they were not actually slaughtered in the north? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yosei said this lest you say that we require that the offering be slaughtered โ€œon the side of the altar northwardโ€ (Leviticus 1:11), i.e., on the ground beside the altar, and that requirement is not fulfilled when it is slaughtered on top of the altar. Therefore, Rabbi Yosei teaches us that the offering is still valid.


ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ื™ ื–ื™ืจื ืœืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืœื ืžืขืชื” ืœืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื”ื›ื™ ื ืžื™ ื“ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ื“ืจื•ื


Rabbi Zeira said to Rav Asi: Rabbi Yoแธฅanan apparently understands that the reason Rabbi Yosei holds that an offering of the most sacred order slaughtered on the altar is valid is because the entire altar is in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. If that is so, shall one also say that according to Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, half of the altar was situated in the north of the Temple courtyard and half of it was situated in the south?


ื•ื›ื™ ืชื™ืžื ื”ื›ื™ ื ืžื™ ื•ื”ื ืืช ื”ื•ื ื“ืืžืจืช ืžืฉืžื™ื” ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืžื•ื“ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืื ืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืคืกื•ืœื”


And if you would say that indeed that is so, wasnโ€™t it you who said in the name of Rabbi Yoแธฅanan that Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, concedes that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order on the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, the offering is disqualified? Accordingly, Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, apparently maintains that the altar is not located in the north at all.


ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ื”ื›ื™ ืงืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืฉื ื™ื”ื ืžืงืจื ืื—ื“ ื“ืจืฉื• ื•ื–ื‘ื—ืช ืขืœื™ื• ืืช ืขืœืชื™ืš ื•ืืช ืฉืœืžื™ืš


Rav Asi said to Rabbi Zeira: Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement with regard to Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion is an independent statement rather than an inference from the mishna. And with regard to the dispute in the mishna, this is what Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Both of them derived their opinions from one verse: โ€œAn altar of earth you shall make for Me, and you shall slaughter upon it your burnt offerings and your peace offeringsโ€ (Exodus 20:21).


ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื•ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื ื•ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืกื‘ืจ ื—ืฆื™ื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื


Rabbi Yosei maintains that the verse teaches that all of it, i.e., the entire altar, is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, and all of it is also fit for slaughtering a peace offering. And Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, maintains that the verse teaches that half of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering and half of it is fit for slaughtering a peace offering.


ื“ืื™ ืกืœืงื ื“ืขืชืš ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื›ืฉืจ ื”ืฉืชื ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื›ืฉืจ ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื ืžื™ื‘ืขื™ื


The Gemara explains the reasoning of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda: As if it enters your mind that all of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, now that all of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, which must be slaughtered in the northern section of the Temple courtyard (see 53b), is it necessary to teach that it is also fit for slaughtering a peace offering, which may be slaughtered anywhere in the Temple courtyard (see 55a)? The verse therefore must be understood as teaching that half the altar is fit for slaughtering burnt offerings and half is fit for slaughtering peace offerings.


ื•ืื™ื“ืš ืื™ืฆื˜ืจื™ืš ืกืœืงื ื“ืขืชืš ืืžื™ื ื ืขื•ืœื” ื”ื•ื ื“ื“ื—ื™ืง ืœื™ื” ืžืงื•ื ืื‘ืœ ืฉืœืžื™ื ื“ืœื ื“ื—ื™ืง ืœื™ื” ืžืงื•ื ืื™ืžื ืœื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ


The Gemara asks: And how does the other Sage, Rabbi Yosei, respond to this reasoning? The Gemara answers: It was necessary for the verse to mention peace offerings. Otherwise, it could enter your mind to say that the verse allows one to slaughter only a burnt offering atop the altar, as the location where it may be slaughtered on the ground is narrow. But with regard to peace offerings, whose location for slaughter on the ground is not narrow, say that no, one may not slaughter them atop the altar. Therefore, the verse teaches us that peace offerings as well may be slaughtered atop the altar.


ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืžื•ื“ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืื ืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืคืกื•ืœื•ืช ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ืื—ื ืžื“ื™ืคืชื™ ืœืจื‘ื™ื ื ืžืื™ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืื™ืœื™ืžื ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ื”ืื™ ื’ื•ืคื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื”ื•ื ื•ืขื•ื“ ืžืื™ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข


ยง The Gemara discusses the matter itself: Rav Asi says that Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, concedes that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order on the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, the offering is disqualified. Rav Aแธฅa of Difti said to Ravina: What is the meaning of the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar? If we say it means that the offering was sacrificed upon the cubit-wide base of the altar or upon the cubit-wide surrounding ledge of the altar, this itself is part of the altar. And furthermore, what is the meaning of the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar? The base and ledge are not on the ground.


ื•ื›ื™ ืชื™ืžื ื“ืขื‘ื™ื“ ืžื—ื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ืงืจืงืข ื•ืฉื—ื™ื˜ ื‘ื”ื• ื•ื›ื™ ื”ืื™ ื’ื•ื•ื ื ืžื™ ื”ื•ื™ ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ื”ืชื ื™ื ืžื–ื‘ื— ืื“ืžื” ืชืขืฉื” ืœื™ ืฉื™ื”ื ืžื—ื•ื‘ืจ ืžืื“ืžื” ืฉืœื ื™ื‘ื ื ื• ืœื ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื™ ืžื—ื™ืœื•ืช ื•ืœื ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื™ ื›ื™ืคื™ืŸ


And if you would say that the case is where one dug tunnels in the ground beneath the altar, and slaughtered the offerings in them, in a case like this would the altar itself be fit for use so that according to Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, one may slaughter the offerings of the most sacred order on the altar but not on the ground? But isnโ€™t it taught in a baraita: The verse states: โ€œAn altar of earth you shall make for Meโ€ (Exodus 20:21)? This verse indicates that the altar must be attached to the earth, so that one may not build it on top of tunnels nor on top of arches.


ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื ื“ื‘ืฆืจื™ื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื™


The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary to have the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, in order to teach the halakha in a case where one minimized the dimensions of the altar and slaughtered the offerings on the ground where the northern half of the altar had previously stood.


ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื–ื™ืจื ืืคืฉืจ ืื™ืชื ืœื”ื ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ื•ืœื ืชื ื™ื ื ืœื” ื‘ืžืชื ื™ืชื™ืŸ


ยง The Gemara returns to discuss Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement that according to Rabbi Yosei the entire altar was located in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara had mentioned that Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement is an independent statement, not based on the mishna. Rabbi Zeira said: Is it possible that this statement of Rabbi Yoแธฅanan is correct and we did not learn it in any mishna?


ื ืคืง ื“ืง ื•ืืฉื›ื— ื“ืชื ืŸ ื‘ื™ืจืจื• ืžืฉื ืขืฆื™ ืชืื™ื ื” ื™ืคื™ื ืœืกื“ืจ ืžืขืจื›ื” ืฉื ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืงื˜ืจืช ื›ื ื’ื“ ืงืจืŸ ืžืขืจื‘ื™ืช ื“ืจื•ืžื™ืช ืžืฉื•ืš ืžืŸ ื”ืงืจืŸ ื›ืœืคื™ ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ืื•ืžื“ ื—ืžืฉ ืกืื™ืŸ ื’ื—ืœื™ื ื•ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื‘ืื•ืžื“ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืกืื™ืŸ ื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื• ื ื•ืชื ื™ืŸ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื–ื™ื›ื™ ืœื‘ื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืœื—ื ื”ืคื ื™ื


Rabbi Zeira went out, examined the matter, and discovered a mishna that alludes to Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement, as we learned in a mishna (Tamid 2:5): The priests selected fine wood of a fig tree from the chamber of firewood, with which to lay out a second arrangement of wood on the altar so that coals from this arrangement could be used for burning the incense. This second arrangement was located opposite the southwest corner of the altar, distanced from the corner northward by four cubits. They would arrange enough wood which, when burned, would produce approximately five seโ€™a of coals. And on Shabbat, there was enough wood to produce approximately eight seโ€™a of coals, as they would place there the two bowls of frankincense of the shewbread.


ื•ืžืื™ ืกื™ืžื ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื


The Gemara asks: And what is the significance of the mishnaโ€™s defining the precise location of the arrangement and the fact that this is where the frankincense is burned? The Gemara embarks on a lengthy discussion to answer this question: This mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, who holds that this arrangement of wood and the burning of the frankincense must be in that precise location, as it is taught in a baraita:


ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืื•ืžืจ ื–ื” ืกื™ืžืŸ ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืื™ื ื• ื ื•ืชืŸ ืืœื ื‘ืกืžื•ืš ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื


Rabbi Yosei says: This is the principle of where sacrificial items are placed on the inner and outer altars: Any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, may be placed only on the area of that altar that is near the Sanctuary, so that there is no area closer to the inside of the Sanctuary. It must therefore be placed on the part of the external altar closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื ืื™ื ื• ื ื™ื˜ืœ ืืœื ื‘ืกืžื•ืš ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื


And any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary, may be taken only from the area of the external altar that is near the Sanctuary, so that there is no area closer to the inside of the Sanctuary, i.e., from the part of the external altar closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืื™ ื ื™ื”ื• ืื™ืœื™ืžื ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื ื›ืชื™ื‘ ื‘ื”ื• ืืœ ื™ืกื•ื“ ืžื–ื‘ื— ื”ืขื•ืœื” ืืฉืจ ืคืชื— ืื”ืœ ืžื•ืขื“


The Gemara clarifies: With regard to the statement concerning any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary, what are these items? If we say they are the remaining blood of the sin offerings whose blood is presented on the inner altar, there is no reason for Rabbi Yosei to formulate his principle, as it is explicitly written concerning them: โ€œAnd all the remaining blood of the bull he shall pour out at the base of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the entrance to the Tent of Meetingโ€ (Leviticus 4:7). This verse describes how the blood of the inner sin offerings that remained after the sprinkling was to be poured out on the base of the west side of the altar, which is the side closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ืชื• ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืžืื™ ื ื™ื”ื• ืื™ืœื™ืžื ื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื ื”ื›ื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื ื›ืชื™ื‘ ื‘ื”ื• ื•ืœืงื— ืžืœื ื”ืžื—ืชื” ื’ื—ืœื™ ืืฉ ื•ื’ื•ืณ


And furthermore, with regard to the statement about any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary, what are these items? If we say these are the coals of the Yom Kippur service, which must be taken from the western side of the altar, it is explicitly written concerning them: โ€œAnd he shall take a coal pan full of coals of fire from off the altar before the Lordโ€ (Leviticus 16:12). The expression โ€œbefore the Lordโ€ is a reference to the western side of the altar, which is the side closest to the Sanctuary.


ืืœื ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื–ื™ื›ื™ ืœื‘ื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืœื—ื ื”ืคื ื™ื ื“ื’ืžืจื™ ืžืฉื™ืจื™ื


The Gemara continues: Rather, Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s statement with regard to any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary is referring to the two bowls of frankincense of the shewbread. According to Rabbi Yosei, they must be burned on the western side of the altar, as he derives this halakha from the location on the base of the altar where the remaining blood of the inner sin offerings is poured.


ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ื’ื—ืœื™ื ื“ื›ืœ ื™ื•ืžื ื•ื™ื•ืžื ื“ื’ืžืจืŸ ืžื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื ื”ื›ืคื•ืจื™ื


Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s next statement, that any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary may be taken only from the area of the external altar that is near the Sanctuary, is referring to the coals that are taken from the external altar each and every day and placed on the inner altar in order to burn the incense. According to Rabbi Yosei these coals must be taken from the western side of the altar, as we derive this halakha from the location on the altar from where the coals of the Yom Kippur service must be taken.


ื•ืžืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ืงืื™ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉื‘ืข ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara discusses Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion that the second arrangement of wood was placed four cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar: And what does Rabbi Yosei hold about the placement of the altar in the Temple courtyard? If he holds that the entire altar stands in the south side of the Temple courtyard, then only the five northernmost cubits of the altar are opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. Accordingly, in order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary, one is required to move it twenty-seven cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar.


ื•ืื™ ื ืžื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ื”ื™ื ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืชืจืชื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara continues: And even if Rabbi Yosei holds that the level of sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is the same, so that the arrangement of wood can be opposite the Entrance Hall, which is ten cubits wider than the Sanctuary, his opinion is still difficult. In order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the Entrance Hall, one is required to move it twenty-two cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar.


ื•ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ื—ื“ ืกืจื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™ ื•ืืœื ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ืžื™ืœืชื ื”ื™ื ืฉื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara continues: And even if Rabbi Yosei holds that half of the altar was located in the north side of the Temple courtyard and half in the south, in order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary one is still required to move it eleven cubits to the north of the southwest corner of the altar. And if one suggests that, rather, he holds that the sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is one matter, i.e., equal, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood six cubits from the southwest corner in order to be opposite the Entrance Hall.


ืืœื ืœืื• ืžืฉื•ื ื“ืงืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืงืื™


Rather, is it not that Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion that the arrangement of wood was located four cubits from the altarโ€™s southwest corner is due to the fact that he holds that the entire altar stands in the north side of the Temple courtyard? Accordingly, only the five southernmost cubits of the altar were opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ื”ื ื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ื•ืืžื” ืžืงื•ื ืงืจื ื•ืช ื•ืืžื” ืžืงื•ื ืจื’ืœื™ ื”ื›ื”ื ื™ื ื“ื›ื™ ืžืกื’ื• ืœืงืžื™ื” ื˜ืคื™ ืชื• ืœื™ื›ื ืคืชื—


And of these four cubits from which the arrangement of wood was distanced from the southwest corner of the altar, one cubit was the base of the altar; and one cubit was the surrounding ledge of the altar; and one cubit was the place where the corners of the altar were located; and another cubit was the place of the feet of the priests, i.e., space for the priests to walk around the perimeter of the surface of the altar in order to perform the sacrificial rites. The arrangement of wood was located specifically in that location, as if one were to move it farther away from the southwest corner of the altar, it would no longer be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. This proves that according to Rabbi Yosei, the entire altar was located in the northern side of the Temple courtyard, as stated by Rabbi Yoแธฅanan.


ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืื“ื ื‘ืจ ืื”ื‘ื” ื”ื ืžื ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืžื–ื‘ื— ืžืžื•ืฆืข ื•ืขื•ืžื“ ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื”ืขื–ืจื” ื•ืฉืœืฉื™ื ื•ืฉืชื™ื ืืžื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืœื• ืขืฉืจ ืืžื•ืช ื›ื ื’ื“ ืคืชื—ื• ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื›ืœ ืื—ืช ืขืฉืจื” ืืžื” ืžื™ื›ืŸ ื•ืื—ืช ืขืฉืจื” ืืžื” ืžื™ื›ืŸ ื ืžืฆื ืžื–ื‘ื— ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ ื”ื™ื›ืœ


The Gemara challenges this proof by suggesting an alternative explanation of the mishna in Tamid: Rav Adda bar Ahava said: In accordance with whose opinion is this mishna? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yehuda says: The altar was centered and standing precisely in the middle of the Temple courtyard, and it was thirty-two cubits wide. Ten cubits were opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary, eleven cubits were to this side of the entrance to the Sanctuary, and eleven cubits were to that side of the entrance to the Sanctuary. It turns out that the length of the altar was aligned opposite the width of the Sanctuary, which itself was thirty-two cubits wide.


ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ืœืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื—ื“ ืกืจื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™ ื•ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ืžื™ืœืชื ื”ื™ื ืฉื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara asks: Ultimately, according to Rabbi Yehuda, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood eleven cubits from the southwest corner in order for it to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. And even if he holds that the sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is one matter, i.e., equal, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood six cubits in order to be opposite the Entrance Hall. Therefore, the mishna, which states that the arrangement of wood is four cubits north of the southwest corner, cannot be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda.


ืžื™ ืกื‘ืจืช ื”ื ื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ื”ื“ื™ ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ืจ ืžืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘


The Gemara responds: Do you hold that these four cubits include the cubit of the base of the altar and the cubit of the surrounding ledge of the altar? Actually, the four cubits are aside from the cubit of the base of the altar and the cubit of the surrounding ledge of the altar. Accordingly, the arrangement of wood was actually a total of six cubits from the southwest corner of the altar, and the mishna can be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda.


ื•ื ื•ืงืžื” ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื•ื‘ืžืžื•ืฆืข ืžืฉื•ื ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืžืขื ื ืœื™ื” ืžืžื•ืฆืข ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื


The Gemara asks why Rav Adda bar Ahava interpreted the mishna to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda: But let him interpret it to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei and explain that the altar is located in the center of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara explains: Rav Adda bar Ahava interpreted the mishna to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda because we heard that Rabbi Yehuda explicitly said that the altar was positioned in the center of the Temple courtyard, whereas we did not hear that Rabbi Yosei maintains such an opinion.


ื•ืจื‘ ืฉืจื‘ื™ื ืืžืจ ื”ื ืžื ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื’ืœื™ืœื™ ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื’ืœื™ืœื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืžืชื•ืš ืฉื ืืžืจ ื•ื ืชืช ืืช ื”ื›ื™ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื”ืœ ืžื•ืขื“ ื•ื’ื•ืžืจ ื•ืืช


And Rav Sherevya said: In accordance with whose opinion is this mishna in Tamid, which holds that the entire altar was located in the northern part of the Temple courtyard? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei HaGelili, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yosei HaGelili says: Since it is stated: โ€œAnd you shall set the Basin between the Tent of Meeting and the altarโ€ (Exodus 40:7), and another verse states: โ€œAnd


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Zevachim 58

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Zevachim 58

ืžืชื ื™ืณ ืงื“ืฉื™ ืงื“ืฉื™ื ืฉืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื‘ืจืืฉ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืื•ืžืจ ื›ืื™ืœื• ื ืฉื—ื˜ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืžื—ืฆื™ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ืœื“ืจื•ื ื›ื“ืจื•ื ืžื—ืฆื™ ื”ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ืœืฆืคื•ืŸ ื›ืฆืคื•ืŸ


MISHNA: It was taught in the previous chapter that offerings of the most sacred order are to be slaughtered in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. With regard to offerings of the most sacred order that one slaughtered atop the altar, Rabbi Yosei says: Their status is as though they were slaughtered in the north, and the offerings are therefore valid. Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, says: The status of the area from the halfway point of the altar and to the south is like that of the south, and offerings of the most sacred order slaughtered in that area are therefore disqualified. The status of the area from the halfway point of the altar and to the north is like that of the north.


ื’ืžืณ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืื•ืžืจ ื”ื™ื” ืจืณ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืงืื™ ื•ืžืื™ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืžื”ื• ื“ืชื™ืžื ื‘ืขื™ื ืŸ ื™ืจืš ื•ืœื™ื›ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ


GEMARA: Rav Asi says that Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Rabbi Yosei used to say: The entire altar stands in the north section of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara asks: And what is the meaning of Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s statement that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order atop the altar it is as though they were slaughtered in the north, which indicates that they were not actually slaughtered in the north? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yosei said this lest you say that we require that the offering be slaughtered โ€œon the side of the altar northwardโ€ (Leviticus 1:11), i.e., on the ground beside the altar, and that requirement is not fulfilled when it is slaughtered on top of the altar. Therefore, Rabbi Yosei teaches us that the offering is still valid.


ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ื™ ื–ื™ืจื ืœืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืœื ืžืขืชื” ืœืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื”ื›ื™ ื ืžื™ ื“ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ื“ืจื•ื


Rabbi Zeira said to Rav Asi: Rabbi Yoแธฅanan apparently understands that the reason Rabbi Yosei holds that an offering of the most sacred order slaughtered on the altar is valid is because the entire altar is in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. If that is so, shall one also say that according to Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, half of the altar was situated in the north of the Temple courtyard and half of it was situated in the south?


ื•ื›ื™ ืชื™ืžื ื”ื›ื™ ื ืžื™ ื•ื”ื ืืช ื”ื•ื ื“ืืžืจืช ืžืฉืžื™ื” ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืžื•ื“ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืื ืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืคืกื•ืœื”


And if you would say that indeed that is so, wasnโ€™t it you who said in the name of Rabbi Yoแธฅanan that Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, concedes that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order on the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, the offering is disqualified? Accordingly, Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, apparently maintains that the altar is not located in the north at all.


ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ื”ื›ื™ ืงืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืฉื ื™ื”ื ืžืงืจื ืื—ื“ ื“ืจืฉื• ื•ื–ื‘ื—ืช ืขืœื™ื• ืืช ืขืœืชื™ืš ื•ืืช ืฉืœืžื™ืš


Rav Asi said to Rabbi Zeira: Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement with regard to Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion is an independent statement rather than an inference from the mishna. And with regard to the dispute in the mishna, this is what Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Both of them derived their opinions from one verse: โ€œAn altar of earth you shall make for Me, and you shall slaughter upon it your burnt offerings and your peace offeringsโ€ (Exodus 20:21).


ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื•ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื ื•ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืกื‘ืจ ื—ืฆื™ื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื


Rabbi Yosei maintains that the verse teaches that all of it, i.e., the entire altar, is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, and all of it is also fit for slaughtering a peace offering. And Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, maintains that the verse teaches that half of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering and half of it is fit for slaughtering a peace offering.


ื“ืื™ ืกืœืงื ื“ืขืชืš ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื›ืฉืจ ื”ืฉืชื ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืขื•ืœื” ื›ืฉืจ ื›ื•ืœื• ืœืฉืœืžื™ื ืžื™ื‘ืขื™ื


The Gemara explains the reasoning of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda: As if it enters your mind that all of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, now that all of it is fit for slaughtering a burnt offering, which must be slaughtered in the northern section of the Temple courtyard (see 53b), is it necessary to teach that it is also fit for slaughtering a peace offering, which may be slaughtered anywhere in the Temple courtyard (see 55a)? The verse therefore must be understood as teaching that half the altar is fit for slaughtering burnt offerings and half is fit for slaughtering peace offerings.


ื•ืื™ื“ืš ืื™ืฆื˜ืจื™ืš ืกืœืงื ื“ืขืชืš ืืžื™ื ื ืขื•ืœื” ื”ื•ื ื“ื“ื—ื™ืง ืœื™ื” ืžืงื•ื ืื‘ืœ ืฉืœืžื™ื ื“ืœื ื“ื—ื™ืง ืœื™ื” ืžืงื•ื ืื™ืžื ืœื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ


The Gemara asks: And how does the other Sage, Rabbi Yosei, respond to this reasoning? The Gemara answers: It was necessary for the verse to mention peace offerings. Otherwise, it could enter your mind to say that the verse allows one to slaughter only a burnt offering atop the altar, as the location where it may be slaughtered on the ground is narrow. But with regard to peace offerings, whose location for slaughter on the ground is not narrow, say that no, one may not slaughter them atop the altar. Therefore, the verse teaches us that peace offerings as well may be slaughtered atop the altar.


ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืžื•ื“ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื‘ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืื ืฉื—ื˜ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืคืกื•ืœื•ืช ืืžืจ ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ืื—ื ืžื“ื™ืคืชื™ ืœืจื‘ื™ื ื ืžืื™ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข ืื™ืœื™ืžื ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ื”ืื™ ื’ื•ืคื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื”ื•ื ื•ืขื•ื“ ืžืื™ ื›ื ื’ื“ืŸ ื‘ืงืจืงืข


ยง The Gemara discusses the matter itself: Rav Asi says that Rabbi Yoแธฅanan says: Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, concedes that if one slaughtered offerings of the most sacred order on the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, the offering is disqualified. Rav Aแธฅa of Difti said to Ravina: What is the meaning of the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar? If we say it means that the offering was sacrificed upon the cubit-wide base of the altar or upon the cubit-wide surrounding ledge of the altar, this itself is part of the altar. And furthermore, what is the meaning of the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar? The base and ledge are not on the ground.


ื•ื›ื™ ืชื™ืžื ื“ืขื‘ื™ื“ ืžื—ื™ืœื•ืช ื‘ืงืจืงืข ื•ืฉื—ื™ื˜ ื‘ื”ื• ื•ื›ื™ ื”ืื™ ื’ื•ื•ื ื ืžื™ ื”ื•ื™ ืžื–ื‘ื— ื•ื”ืชื ื™ื ืžื–ื‘ื— ืื“ืžื” ืชืขืฉื” ืœื™ ืฉื™ื”ื ืžื—ื•ื‘ืจ ืžืื“ืžื” ืฉืœื ื™ื‘ื ื ื• ืœื ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื™ ืžื—ื™ืœื•ืช ื•ืœื ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื™ ื›ื™ืคื™ืŸ


And if you would say that the case is where one dug tunnels in the ground beneath the altar, and slaughtered the offerings in them, in a case like this would the altar itself be fit for use so that according to Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, one may slaughter the offerings of the most sacred order on the altar but not on the ground? But isnโ€™t it taught in a baraita: The verse states: โ€œAn altar of earth you shall make for Meโ€ (Exodus 20:21)? This verse indicates that the altar must be attached to the earth, so that one may not build it on top of tunnels nor on top of arches.


ืœื ืฆืจื™ื›ื ื“ื‘ืฆืจื™ื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื™


The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary to have the phrase: On the ground opposite the northern half of the altar, in order to teach the halakha in a case where one minimized the dimensions of the altar and slaughtered the offerings on the ground where the northern half of the altar had previously stood.


ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื–ื™ืจื ืืคืฉืจ ืื™ืชื ืœื”ื ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ื•ืœื ืชื ื™ื ื ืœื” ื‘ืžืชื ื™ืชื™ืŸ


ยง The Gemara returns to discuss Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement that according to Rabbi Yosei the entire altar was located in the northern section of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara had mentioned that Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement is an independent statement, not based on the mishna. Rabbi Zeira said: Is it possible that this statement of Rabbi Yoแธฅanan is correct and we did not learn it in any mishna?


ื ืคืง ื“ืง ื•ืืฉื›ื— ื“ืชื ืŸ ื‘ื™ืจืจื• ืžืฉื ืขืฆื™ ืชืื™ื ื” ื™ืคื™ื ืœืกื“ืจ ืžืขืจื›ื” ืฉื ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืงื˜ืจืช ื›ื ื’ื“ ืงืจืŸ ืžืขืจื‘ื™ืช ื“ืจื•ืžื™ืช ืžืฉื•ืš ืžืŸ ื”ืงืจืŸ ื›ืœืคื™ ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ืื•ืžื“ ื—ืžืฉ ืกืื™ืŸ ื’ื—ืœื™ื ื•ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื‘ืื•ืžื“ ืฉืžื•ื ื” ืกืื™ืŸ ื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืฉื ื”ื™ื• ื ื•ืชื ื™ืŸ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื–ื™ื›ื™ ืœื‘ื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืœื—ื ื”ืคื ื™ื


Rabbi Zeira went out, examined the matter, and discovered a mishna that alludes to Rabbi Yoแธฅananโ€™s statement, as we learned in a mishna (Tamid 2:5): The priests selected fine wood of a fig tree from the chamber of firewood, with which to lay out a second arrangement of wood on the altar so that coals from this arrangement could be used for burning the incense. This second arrangement was located opposite the southwest corner of the altar, distanced from the corner northward by four cubits. They would arrange enough wood which, when burned, would produce approximately five seโ€™a of coals. And on Shabbat, there was enough wood to produce approximately eight seโ€™a of coals, as they would place there the two bowls of frankincense of the shewbread.


ื•ืžืื™ ืกื™ืžื ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื


The Gemara asks: And what is the significance of the mishnaโ€™s defining the precise location of the arrangement and the fact that this is where the frankincense is burned? The Gemara embarks on a lengthy discussion to answer this question: This mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, who holds that this arrangement of wood and the burning of the frankincense must be in that precise location, as it is taught in a baraita:


ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ืื•ืžืจ ื–ื” ืกื™ืžืŸ ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืื™ื ื• ื ื•ืชืŸ ืืœื ื‘ืกืžื•ืš ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื


Rabbi Yosei says: This is the principle of where sacrificial items are placed on the inner and outer altars: Any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, may be placed only on the area of that altar that is near the Sanctuary, so that there is no area closer to the inside of the Sanctuary. It must therefore be placed on the part of the external altar closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื ืื™ื ื• ื ื™ื˜ืœ ืืœื ื‘ืกืžื•ืš ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœืคื ื™ื


And any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary, may be taken only from the area of the external altar that is near the Sanctuary, so that there is no area closer to the inside of the Sanctuary, i.e., from the part of the external altar closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืื™ ื ื™ื”ื• ืื™ืœื™ืžื ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื ื›ืชื™ื‘ ื‘ื”ื• ืืœ ื™ืกื•ื“ ืžื–ื‘ื— ื”ืขื•ืœื” ืืฉืจ ืคืชื— ืื”ืœ ืžื•ืขื“


The Gemara clarifies: With regard to the statement concerning any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary, what are these items? If we say they are the remaining blood of the sin offerings whose blood is presented on the inner altar, there is no reason for Rabbi Yosei to formulate his principle, as it is explicitly written concerning them: โ€œAnd all the remaining blood of the bull he shall pour out at the base of the altar of the burnt offering, which is at the entrance to the Tent of Meetingโ€ (Leviticus 4:7). This verse describes how the blood of the inner sin offerings that remained after the sprinkling was to be poured out on the base of the west side of the altar, which is the side closest to the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ืชื• ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืžืื™ ื ื™ื”ื• ืื™ืœื™ืžื ื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื ื”ื›ื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื ื›ืชื™ื‘ ื‘ื”ื• ื•ืœืงื— ืžืœื ื”ืžื—ืชื” ื’ื—ืœื™ ืืฉ ื•ื’ื•ืณ


And furthermore, with regard to the statement about any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary, in the Temple courtyard, in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary, what are these items? If we say these are the coals of the Yom Kippur service, which must be taken from the western side of the altar, it is explicitly written concerning them: โ€œAnd he shall take a coal pan full of coals of fire from off the altar before the Lordโ€ (Leviticus 16:12). The expression โ€œbefore the Lordโ€ is a reference to the western side of the altar, which is the side closest to the Sanctuary.


ืืœื ื›ืœ ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืฉื ื™ ื‘ื–ื™ื›ื™ ืœื‘ื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืœื—ื ื”ืคื ื™ื ื“ื’ืžืจื™ ืžืฉื™ืจื™ื


The Gemara continues: Rather, Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s statement with regard to any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar located inside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar outside the Sanctuary is referring to the two bowls of frankincense of the shewbread. According to Rabbi Yosei, they must be burned on the western side of the altar, as he derives this halakha from the location on the base of the altar where the remaining blood of the inner sin offerings is poured.


ื”ื ื™ื˜ืœ ื‘ื—ื•ืฅ ืœื™ื ืชืŸ ื‘ืคื ื™ื ื’ื—ืœื™ื ื“ื›ืœ ื™ื•ืžื ื•ื™ื•ืžื ื“ื’ืžืจืŸ ืžื’ื—ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื™ื•ื ื”ื›ืคื•ืจื™ื


Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s next statement, that any sacrificial item that is taken from the altar outside the Sanctuary in order to be placed on the altar located inside the Sanctuary may be taken only from the area of the external altar that is near the Sanctuary, is referring to the coals that are taken from the external altar each and every day and placed on the inner altar in order to burn the incense. According to Rabbi Yosei these coals must be taken from the western side of the altar, as we derive this halakha from the location on the altar from where the coals of the Yom Kippur service must be taken.


ื•ืžืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ืงืื™ ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืฉื‘ืข ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara discusses Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion that the second arrangement of wood was placed four cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar: And what does Rabbi Yosei hold about the placement of the altar in the Temple courtyard? If he holds that the entire altar stands in the south side of the Temple courtyard, then only the five northernmost cubits of the altar are opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. Accordingly, in order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary, one is required to move it twenty-seven cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar.


ื•ืื™ ื ืžื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ื”ื™ื ืขืฉืจื™ื ื•ืชืจืชื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara continues: And even if Rabbi Yosei holds that the level of sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is the same, so that the arrangement of wood can be opposite the Entrance Hall, which is ten cubits wider than the Sanctuary, his opinion is still difficult. In order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the Entrance Hall, one is required to move it twenty-two cubits north of the southwest corner of the altar.


ื•ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ื•ื—ืฆื™ื• ื‘ื“ืจื•ื ื—ื“ ืกืจื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™ ื•ืืœื ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ืžื™ืœืชื ื”ื™ื ืฉื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara continues: And even if Rabbi Yosei holds that half of the altar was located in the north side of the Temple courtyard and half in the south, in order for the arrangement of wood to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary one is still required to move it eleven cubits to the north of the southwest corner of the altar. And if one suggests that, rather, he holds that the sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is one matter, i.e., equal, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood six cubits from the southwest corner in order to be opposite the Entrance Hall.


ืืœื ืœืื• ืžืฉื•ื ื“ืงืกื‘ืจ ื›ื•ืœื™ื” ืžื–ื‘ื— ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืงืื™


Rather, is it not that Rabbi Yoseiโ€™s opinion that the arrangement of wood was located four cubits from the altarโ€™s southwest corner is due to the fact that he holds that the entire altar stands in the north side of the Temple courtyard? Accordingly, only the five southernmost cubits of the altar were opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary.


ื•ื”ื ื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ื•ืืžื” ืžืงื•ื ืงืจื ื•ืช ื•ืืžื” ืžืงื•ื ืจื’ืœื™ ื”ื›ื”ื ื™ื ื“ื›ื™ ืžืกื’ื• ืœืงืžื™ื” ื˜ืคื™ ืชื• ืœื™ื›ื ืคืชื—


And of these four cubits from which the arrangement of wood was distanced from the southwest corner of the altar, one cubit was the base of the altar; and one cubit was the surrounding ledge of the altar; and one cubit was the place where the corners of the altar were located; and another cubit was the place of the feet of the priests, i.e., space for the priests to walk around the perimeter of the surface of the altar in order to perform the sacrificial rites. The arrangement of wood was located specifically in that location, as if one were to move it farther away from the southwest corner of the altar, it would no longer be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. This proves that according to Rabbi Yosei, the entire altar was located in the northern side of the Temple courtyard, as stated by Rabbi Yoแธฅanan.


ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืื“ื ื‘ืจ ืื”ื‘ื” ื”ื ืžื ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืžื–ื‘ื— ืžืžื•ืฆืข ื•ืขื•ืžื“ ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื”ืขื–ืจื” ื•ืฉืœืฉื™ื ื•ืฉืชื™ื ืืžื•ืช ื”ื™ื• ืœื• ืขืฉืจ ืืžื•ืช ื›ื ื’ื“ ืคืชื—ื• ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื›ืœ ืื—ืช ืขืฉืจื” ืืžื” ืžื™ื›ืŸ ื•ืื—ืช ืขืฉืจื” ืืžื” ืžื™ื›ืŸ ื ืžืฆื ืžื–ื‘ื— ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ ื›ื ื’ื“ ื”ื™ื›ืœ


The Gemara challenges this proof by suggesting an alternative explanation of the mishna in Tamid: Rav Adda bar Ahava said: In accordance with whose opinion is this mishna? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yehuda says: The altar was centered and standing precisely in the middle of the Temple courtyard, and it was thirty-two cubits wide. Ten cubits were opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary, eleven cubits were to this side of the entrance to the Sanctuary, and eleven cubits were to that side of the entrance to the Sanctuary. It turns out that the length of the altar was aligned opposite the width of the Sanctuary, which itself was thirty-two cubits wide.


ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ืœืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื—ื“ ืกืจื™ ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™ ื•ืื™ ืงืกื‘ืจ ืงื“ื•ืฉืช ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื•ืื•ืœื ื—ื“ื ืžื™ืœืชื ื”ื™ื ืฉื™ืช ื‘ืขื™ ืœืžื™ืชื™


The Gemara asks: Ultimately, according to Rabbi Yehuda, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood eleven cubits from the southwest corner in order for it to be opposite the entrance to the Sanctuary. And even if he holds that the sanctity of the Sanctuary and the Entrance Hall is one matter, i.e., equal, one is still required to move the arrangement of wood six cubits in order to be opposite the Entrance Hall. Therefore, the mishna, which states that the arrangement of wood is four cubits north of the southwest corner, cannot be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda.


ืžื™ ืกื‘ืจืช ื”ื ื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ื”ื“ื™ ืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ืืจื‘ืข ืืžื•ืช ื‘ืจ ืžืืžื” ื™ืกื•ื“ ื•ืืžื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘


The Gemara responds: Do you hold that these four cubits include the cubit of the base of the altar and the cubit of the surrounding ledge of the altar? Actually, the four cubits are aside from the cubit of the base of the altar and the cubit of the surrounding ledge of the altar. Accordingly, the arrangement of wood was actually a total of six cubits from the southwest corner of the altar, and the mishna can be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda.


ื•ื ื•ืงืžื” ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื•ื‘ืžืžื•ืฆืข ืžืฉื•ื ื“ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืฉืžืขื ื ืœื™ื” ืžืžื•ืฆืข ื‘ื”ื“ื™ื


The Gemara asks why Rav Adda bar Ahava interpreted the mishna to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda: But let him interpret it to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei and explain that the altar is located in the center of the Temple courtyard. The Gemara explains: Rav Adda bar Ahava interpreted the mishna to be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda because we heard that Rabbi Yehuda explicitly said that the altar was positioned in the center of the Temple courtyard, whereas we did not hear that Rabbi Yosei maintains such an opinion.


ื•ืจื‘ ืฉืจื‘ื™ื ืืžืจ ื”ื ืžื ื™ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื’ืœื™ืœื™ ื”ื™ื ื“ืชื ื™ื ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ืกื™ ื”ื’ืœื™ืœื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืžืชื•ืš ืฉื ืืžืจ ื•ื ืชืช ืืช ื”ื›ื™ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื”ืœ ืžื•ืขื“ ื•ื’ื•ืžืจ ื•ืืช


And Rav Sherevya said: In accordance with whose opinion is this mishna in Tamid, which holds that the entire altar was located in the northern part of the Temple courtyard? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei HaGelili, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Yosei HaGelili says: Since it is stated: โ€œAnd you shall set the Basin between the Tent of Meeting and the altarโ€ (Exodus 40:7), and another verse states: โ€œAnd


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