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Masechet Avodah Zarah
Masechet Avodah Zarah is sponsored by the Talmud class of Congregation Beth Jacob in Redwood City, CA, in honor of the Hadran staff who make learning possible.
This month’s learning is sponsored by Jonathan Loring in honor of his wife, Leah Ackner and their children Zev and Meira. “From the first day I met my wife in Hebrew class at JTS to watching her show kindness when we volunteered together to help those in need and even when I had to wait 9 years for a first date, my wife has always been an inspiration to me and everyone she meets. Thank you for these 20 years and B’Ezrat Hashem to many more! I love you wifesy.”
This month’s learning is dedicated for a refuah shleima for Pesha Etel bat Sarah
This week’s learning is sponsored by Robert and Paula Cohen in loving memory of Chaim Avraham HaKohen ben Alter Gershon HaKohen.
Avodah Zarah 41
אָמַר רַבָּה: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשֶׁל כְּפָרִים, אֲבָל בְּשֶׁל כְּרַכִּים — דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל מוּתָּרִין, מַאי טַעְמָא? לְנוֹי עָבְדִי לְהוּ.
Rabba says: The dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis is only with regard to statues that are erected in villages. But with regard to those that are erected in cities, all agree that they are permitted, i.e., that it is permitted to derive benefit from them. What is the reason? It is because they were fashioned for ornamental purposes and not for worship.
וְדִכְפָרִים, מִי אִיכָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר לְנוֹי קָעָבְדִי לְהוּ? דִּכְפָרִים וַדַּאי לְמִיפְלְחִינְהוּ עָבְדִי לְהוּ!
The Gemara asks: But with regard to those erected in villages, is there anyone who says that they are fashioned for ornamental purposes? Those in villages were certainly fashioned for idol worship. How, then, can the Rabbis maintain that such statues are permitted?
אֶלָּא אִי אִתְּמַר, הָכִי אִתְּמַר: אָמַר רַבָּה: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשֶׁל כְּרַכִּים, אֲבָל בְּשֶׁל כְּפָרִים — דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל אֲסוּרִים.
The Gemara answers: Rather, if such a distinction was stated, this is what was stated: Rabba says that the dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis is only with regard to statues that are erected in cities, where they may have been fashioned simply for ornamental purposes. But with regard to those erected in villages, all agree that they are used for idol worship and are therefore forbidden.
וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵינָן אֲסוּרִין וְכוּ׳. מַקֵּל — שֶׁרוֹדֶה אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּמַקֵּל, צִפּוֹר — שֶׁתּוֹפֵשׂ אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּצִפּוֹר, כַּדּוּר — שֶׁתּוֹפֵשׂ אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּכַדּוּר.
§ The mishna teaches: And the Rabbis say: The only statues that are forbidden are: Any statue that has in its hand a staff, or a bird, or an orb, as these are indications that this statue is designated for idolatry. The Gemara explains that each of these items symbolizes the statue’s supposed divinity, indicating its dominion over the world: A staff symbolizes dominion as the idol rules itself under the entire world, i.e., it rules the entire world, like one rules over an animal with a staff. A bird symbolizes dominion as the idol grasps itself under the entire world, i.e., it grasps the entire world, as one grasps a bird in his hand. An orb symbolizes dominion as the idol grasps itself under the entire world, i.e., it grasps the entire world, as one grasps a ball in his hand.
תָּנָא, הוֹסִיפוּ עֲלֵיהֶן: סַיִיף, עֲטָרָה, וְטַבַּעַת.
The Sages taught in the Tosefta (6:1) that they added the following to the list of items that, when added to a statue, indicate that it is worshipped as an idol: A sword in its hand, a crown on its head, and a ring on its finger.
סַיִיף — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר לִסְטִים בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר שֶׁהוֹרֵג אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ.
The Gemara explains why these items were initially believed to be insignificant and were later understood as symbolizing idol worship. With regard to a statue holding a sword, the Sages initially thought that this merely indicates that it is a statue of a bandit. But in the end they reasoned that it symbolizes the notion that the idol has the power to kill itself under the whole world, i.e., to kill the entire world.
עֲטָרָה — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר גָּדֵיל כְּלִילֵי בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר כַּעֲטָרָה לַכֶּלֶב. טַבַּעַת — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר אִישְׁתְּיָימָא בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר שֶׁחוֹתֵם אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ לְמִיתָה.
With regard to a crown, the Sages initially thought that it is merely a woven wreath. But in the end they reasoned that it is like the crown of a king. With regard to a ring, the Sages initially thought that this merely symbolizes the bearer of a signet ring [ishtayema]. But in the end they reasoned that it is symbolic of the idol’s supposed ability to seal its fate under the whole world, i.e., to seal the fate of the entire world, for death.
רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל כּוּ׳. תָּנָא: אֲפִילּוּ צְרוֹר, אֲפִילּוּ קֵיסָם.
§ The mishna teaches that Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: It is prohibited to derive benefit even from any statue that has any item whatsoever in its hand. The Sages taught in a baraita: It is prohibited to derive benefit from a statue even if it is merely holding a stone, or even a twig.
בָּעֵי רַב אָשֵׁי: תָּפַשׂ בְּיָדוֹ צוֹאָה, מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא זִילוּ בְּאַפֵּיהּ כִּי צוֹאָה, אוֹ דִילְמָא הוּא מִיהוּ דְּזִיל בְּאַפֵּי כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא כְּצוֹאָה? תֵּיקוּ.
Rav Ashi raises a dilemma: If the idol is grasping excrement in its hand, what is the halakha? Is this meant to honor the statue, indicating that it is an object of idol worship? Do we say that the statue is forbidden, as this indicates that the entire world is inferior to it like excrement, or perhaps does this indicate that the idol itself is inferior to the entire world like excrement? The Gemara concludes: The question shall stand unresolved.
מַתְנִי׳ הַמּוֹצֵא שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים, הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ מוּתָּרִין. מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד אוֹ תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל, הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בָּהֶן נֶעֱבָד.
MISHNA: In the case of one who finds unidentifiable fragments of statues, these are permitted, i.e., one may derive benefit from them. If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, as objects similar to those are worshipped.
גְּמָ׳ אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: אֲפִילּוּ שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה. וְהָאֲנַן תְּנַן: שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים!
GEMARA: Shmuel says: It is permitted to derive benefit even from fragments of objects that have been seen used in idol worship. The Gemara asks: But didn’t we learn in the mishna that fragments of nondescript statues are permitted? This indicates that it is prohibited to derive benefit from fragments of idols that were known to be worshipped.
הוּא הַדִּין דַּאֲפִילּוּ שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה, וְהָא דְּקָתָנֵי שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים — מִשּׁוּם דְּקָבָעֵי לְמִיתְנֵא סֵיפָא: מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בָּהֶן נֶעֱבָד.
The Gemara answers: The mishna means that fragments of statues are permitted, and the same is true even of fragments of objects of idol worship. And that which is taught in the mishna: Fragments of statues, is not meant to exclude fragments of idols. Rather, this expression is used because the mishna sought to teach in the last clause: If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, even if they are not known to be objects of idol worship, as objects similar to those are worshipped. If the first clause in the mishna had referred to fragments of idols, it would have been inferred that the latter clause was referring specifically to the figure of a hand or foot that was known to have been worshipped, and that otherwise such figures would not be forbidden.
תְּנַן: מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בּוֹ נֶעֱבָד. אַמַּאי?
We learned in the mishna: If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, as objects similar to those are worshipped. The Gemara asks: Why?
וְהָא שְׁבָרִים נִינְהוּ! תַּרְגְּמַהּ שְׁמוּאֵל: בְּעוֹמְדִין עַל בְּסִיסָן.
But aren’t they fragments of idols, which are permitted according to Shmuel? The Gemara answers that Shmuel interpreted the mishna as follows: It is referring to a case where these objects that are in the figure of a hand or a foot are standing on their pedestals, which shows that they were designed this way initially and are not merely fragments.
אִתְּמַר: עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה שֶׁנִּשְׁתַּבְּרָה מֵאֵילֶיהָ, רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲסוּרָה, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מוּתֶּרֶת.
§ It was stated: With regard to objects of idol worship that broke by themselves, Rabbi Yoḥanan says: It is prohibited to derive benefit from them. Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says: It is permitted.
רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲסוּרָה, דְּהָא לָא בָּטְלָה. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מוּתֶּרֶת, מִסְּתָמָא בַּטּוֹלֵי מְבַטֵּיל לַהּ, מֵימָר אָמַר: אִיהִי נַפְשַׁהּ לָא אַצְּלָה, לְהָהוּא גַּבְרָא מַצְּלָה לֵיהּ?
The Gemara explains the sides of the dispute. Rabbi Yoḥanan says that it is prohibited, as its owner did not revoke its status as an object of idol worship. Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says that it is permitted, as the owner presumably revoked its status as an object of idol worship, having said to himself: If the idol could not save even itself from harm, can it save that man, i.e., myself?
אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ: ״וְרֹאשׁ דָּגוֹן וּשְׁתֵּי כַּפּוֹת יָדָיו כְּרֻתוֹת וְגוֹ׳״, וּכְתִיב: ״עַל כֵּן לֹא יִדְרְכוּ כֹהֲנֵי דָגוֹן וְגוֹ׳״!
Rabbi Yoḥanan raised an objection to Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish from the passage in the book of Samuel recounting the downfall of the Philistine god Dagon: “And when they arose early the next morning, behold, Dagon was fallen on his face to the ground before the Ark of the Lord; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands lay cut off upon the threshold; only the trunk of Dagon was left to him” (I Samuel 5:4). And from the next verse it seems that Dagon’s worshippers accorded it honor despite its destruction, as it is written: “Therefore, the priests of Dagon, and anyone who comes into Dagon’s house, do not tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod until this day” (I Samuel 5:5). Evidently, when an idol breaks, its worshippers do not stop worshipping it.
אָמַר לוֹ: מִשָּׁם רְאָיָה? הָתָם שֶׁמַּנִּיחִין אֶת הַדָּגוֹן, וְעוֹבְדִין אֶת הַמִּפְתָּן, דְּאָמְרִי הָכִי: שַׁבְקֵיהּ אִיסָרֵיהּ לְדָגוֹן, וַאֲתָא אִיתֵּיב לֵיהּ עַל הַמִּפְתָּן.
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said to him: Is there proof from there? There, the reason people did not tread on the threshold of Dagon is that they had abandoned their worship of the Dagon and would instead worship the threshold upon which Dagon was found, as they stated this reasoning: The spirit of Dagon has left the Dagon idol and instead it came and rested upon the threshold.
אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: הַמּוֹצֵא שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ מוּתָּרִין. הָא שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה — אֲסוּרִין!
Rabbi Yoḥanan raised another objection to Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish from the mishna: In the case of one who finds fragments of statues, these are permitted. This indicates that fragments of known objects of idol worship are forbidden.
לָא תֵּימָא שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אֲסוּרִין, אֶלָּא אֵימָא: הָא צְלָמִים עַצְמָן אֲסוּרִין, וּסְתָמָא כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר.
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish replied: Do not say that the indication is that fragments of objects of idol worship are forbidden; rather say that the indication is that full statues themselves are forbidden, and the unattributed mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Meir, who, in the previous mishna, prohibits any statue as it is possible that it is worshipped annually.
וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, מִדְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר נִשְׁמַע לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן, לָאו אָמַר רַבִּי מֵאִיר: צְלָמִים אֲסוּרִין, שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים מוּתָּרִין, לְרַבָּנַן עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה נָמֵי הִיא אֲסוּרָה וּשְׁבָרֶיהָ מוּתָּרִין!
The Gemara asks: But how does Rabbi Yoḥanan refute the following logic: From the opinion of Rabbi Meir one can learn a detail with regard to the opinion of the Rabbis. Doesn’t Rabbi Meir say that statues are forbidden, while fragments of statues are permitted? From this, one can derive that this is true according to the Rabbis as well with regard to objects of idol worship: The object itself is forbidden, but its fragments are permitted.
הָכִי הַשְׁתָּא? הָתָם אֵימַר עֲבָדוּם אֵימַר לֹא עֲבָדוּם, וְאִם תִּמְצֵי לוֹמַר עֲבָדוּם — אֵימַר בִּטְּלוּם. עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה וַדַּאי עֲבָדוּהָ, מִי יֵימַר דְּבַטְּלֻהָ? הָוֵי סָפֵק וּוַדַּאי, וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי!
The Gemara rejects this comparison: How can these cases be compared? There, in the case of statues, the fragments are permitted because there is room to say that people worshipped them, and there is also room to say that people did not worship them; and even if you say that people worshipped them, there is room to say that their owners subsequently revoked them. This is not comparable to an object of idol worship, which people certainly worshipped, and who is to say that its owner certainly revoked it? It is a conflict between an uncertainty as to whether or not it was revoked, and a certainty that it was worshipped, and the principle is that an uncertainty does not override a certainty.
וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי? וְהָתַנְיָא: חָבֵר שֶׁמֵּת, וְהִנִּיחַ מְגוּרָה מְלֵאָה פֵּירוֹת, אֲפִילּוּ הֵן בְּנֵי יוֹמָן — הֲרֵי הֵן בְּחֶזְקַת מְתוּקָּנִין.
The Gemara asks: And does an uncertainty not override a certainty? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: In the case of a ḥaver who died and left a storehouse filled with produce, even if the produce was there only that day, it has the presumptive status of produce that was ritually prepared, i.e., properly tithed. This is due to the presumption that the ḥaver tithed the produce himself or instructed others to do so.
וְהָא הָכָא דְּוַדַּאי טְבִילִי, סָפֵק עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, סָפֵק לָא עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, וְקָאָתֵי סָפֵק וּמוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי!
The Gemara infers: And here, in this case, the produce was certainly untithed at the outset, and there is uncertainty whether the ḥaver tithed it, and there is uncertainty whether he did not tithe it, and despite this conflict, the uncertainty whether it was tithed comes and overrides the certainty that it was untithed produce.
הָתָם וַדַּאי וּוַדַּאי הוּא, דְּוַדַּאי עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, כִּדְרַבִּי חֲנִינָא חוֹזָאָה, דְּאָמַר רַבִּי חֲנִינָא חוֹזָאָה: חֲזָקָה עַל חָבֵר שֶׁאֵינוֹ מוֹצִיא דָּבָר שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְתוּקָּן מִתַּחַת יָדוֹ.
The Gemara rejects this claim: There, in that case, conflict is between certainty and certainty, as the ḥaver certainly tithed the produce. This presumption is in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Ḥanina Ḥoza’a; as Rabbi Ḥanina Ḥoza’a says: There is a presumption with regard to a ḥaver that he does not release an item from his possession that is not ritually prepared.
וְאִי בָּעֵית אֵימָא: מֵעִיקָּרָא לָא טְבִילִי, סָפֵק וְסָפֵק הוּא.
And if you wish, say instead that perhaps the produce did not initially have the status of untithed produce, and therefore the conflict is between uncertainty and uncertainty.
אֶפְשָׁר דַּעֲבַד כִּדְרַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא, דְּאָמַר: מַעֲרִים אָדָם עַל תְּבוּאָתוֹ וּמַכְנִיסָהּ בַּמּוֹץ שֶׁלָּהּ, כְּדֵי שֶׁתְּהֵא בְּהֶמְתּוֹ אוֹכֶלֶת וּפְטוּרָה מִן הַמַּעֲשֵׂר.
This is because it is possible that there was never an obligation to tithe the produce, as the ḥaver may have acted in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Oshaya, who says that a person can employ artifice to circumvent obligations incumbent upon him in dealing with his grain, and bring it into his courtyard in its chaff so that his animal may eat from it. And this grain is exempt from tithes. Although the obligation to tithe produce that has been fully processed applies even to animal fodder, it is permitted to feed one’s animal untithed produce that has not been fully processed. In light of this halakha it is possible that the produce in the storehouse of the ḥaver never needed to be tithed. Consequently, this case is a conflict between two uncertain factors, as it is uncertain whether or not the owner was obligated to tithe the produce in the first place, and even if he was required to do so, it is uncertain whether or not he tithed it.
וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי? וְהָתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּשִׁפְחָתוֹ
The Gemara raises another objection: And is it so that an uncertainty does not override a certainty? But isn’t it taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda said: There was an incident involving the maidservant
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Avodah Zarah 41
אָמַר רַבָּה: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשֶׁל כְּפָרִים, אֲבָל בְּשֶׁל כְּרַכִּים — דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל מוּתָּרִין, מַאי טַעְמָא? לְנוֹי עָבְדִי לְהוּ.
Rabba says: The dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis is only with regard to statues that are erected in villages. But with regard to those that are erected in cities, all agree that they are permitted, i.e., that it is permitted to derive benefit from them. What is the reason? It is because they were fashioned for ornamental purposes and not for worship.
וְדִכְפָרִים, מִי אִיכָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר לְנוֹי קָעָבְדִי לְהוּ? דִּכְפָרִים וַדַּאי לְמִיפְלְחִינְהוּ עָבְדִי לְהוּ!
The Gemara asks: But with regard to those erected in villages, is there anyone who says that they are fashioned for ornamental purposes? Those in villages were certainly fashioned for idol worship. How, then, can the Rabbis maintain that such statues are permitted?
אֶלָּא אִי אִתְּמַר, הָכִי אִתְּמַר: אָמַר רַבָּה: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשֶׁל כְּרַכִּים, אֲבָל בְּשֶׁל כְּפָרִים — דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל אֲסוּרִים.
The Gemara answers: Rather, if such a distinction was stated, this is what was stated: Rabba says that the dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis is only with regard to statues that are erected in cities, where they may have been fashioned simply for ornamental purposes. But with regard to those erected in villages, all agree that they are used for idol worship and are therefore forbidden.
וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵינָן אֲסוּרִין וְכוּ׳. מַקֵּל — שֶׁרוֹדֶה אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּמַקֵּל, צִפּוֹר — שֶׁתּוֹפֵשׂ אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּצִפּוֹר, כַּדּוּר — שֶׁתּוֹפֵשׂ אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ כְּכַדּוּר.
§ The mishna teaches: And the Rabbis say: The only statues that are forbidden are: Any statue that has in its hand a staff, or a bird, or an orb, as these are indications that this statue is designated for idolatry. The Gemara explains that each of these items symbolizes the statue’s supposed divinity, indicating its dominion over the world: A staff symbolizes dominion as the idol rules itself under the entire world, i.e., it rules the entire world, like one rules over an animal with a staff. A bird symbolizes dominion as the idol grasps itself under the entire world, i.e., it grasps the entire world, as one grasps a bird in his hand. An orb symbolizes dominion as the idol grasps itself under the entire world, i.e., it grasps the entire world, as one grasps a ball in his hand.
תָּנָא, הוֹסִיפוּ עֲלֵיהֶן: סַיִיף, עֲטָרָה, וְטַבַּעַת.
The Sages taught in the Tosefta (6:1) that they added the following to the list of items that, when added to a statue, indicate that it is worshipped as an idol: A sword in its hand, a crown on its head, and a ring on its finger.
סַיִיף — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר לִסְטִים בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר שֶׁהוֹרֵג אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ.
The Gemara explains why these items were initially believed to be insignificant and were later understood as symbolizing idol worship. With regard to a statue holding a sword, the Sages initially thought that this merely indicates that it is a statue of a bandit. But in the end they reasoned that it symbolizes the notion that the idol has the power to kill itself under the whole world, i.e., to kill the entire world.
עֲטָרָה — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר גָּדֵיל כְּלִילֵי בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר כַּעֲטָרָה לַכֶּלֶב. טַבַּעַת — מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבוּר אִישְׁתְּיָימָא בְּעָלְמָא, וּלְבַסּוֹף סְבוּר שֶׁחוֹתֵם אֶת עַצְמוֹ תַּחַת כָּל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ לְמִיתָה.
With regard to a crown, the Sages initially thought that it is merely a woven wreath. But in the end they reasoned that it is like the crown of a king. With regard to a ring, the Sages initially thought that this merely symbolizes the bearer of a signet ring [ishtayema]. But in the end they reasoned that it is symbolic of the idol’s supposed ability to seal its fate under the whole world, i.e., to seal the fate of the entire world, for death.
רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל כּוּ׳. תָּנָא: אֲפִילּוּ צְרוֹר, אֲפִילּוּ קֵיסָם.
§ The mishna teaches that Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: It is prohibited to derive benefit even from any statue that has any item whatsoever in its hand. The Sages taught in a baraita: It is prohibited to derive benefit from a statue even if it is merely holding a stone, or even a twig.
בָּעֵי רַב אָשֵׁי: תָּפַשׂ בְּיָדוֹ צוֹאָה, מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא זִילוּ בְּאַפֵּיהּ כִּי צוֹאָה, אוֹ דִילְמָא הוּא מִיהוּ דְּזִיל בְּאַפֵּי כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא כְּצוֹאָה? תֵּיקוּ.
Rav Ashi raises a dilemma: If the idol is grasping excrement in its hand, what is the halakha? Is this meant to honor the statue, indicating that it is an object of idol worship? Do we say that the statue is forbidden, as this indicates that the entire world is inferior to it like excrement, or perhaps does this indicate that the idol itself is inferior to the entire world like excrement? The Gemara concludes: The question shall stand unresolved.
מַתְנִי׳ הַמּוֹצֵא שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים, הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ מוּתָּרִין. מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד אוֹ תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל, הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בָּהֶן נֶעֱבָד.
MISHNA: In the case of one who finds unidentifiable fragments of statues, these are permitted, i.e., one may derive benefit from them. If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, as objects similar to those are worshipped.
גְּמָ׳ אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: אֲפִילּוּ שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה. וְהָאֲנַן תְּנַן: שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים!
GEMARA: Shmuel says: It is permitted to derive benefit even from fragments of objects that have been seen used in idol worship. The Gemara asks: But didn’t we learn in the mishna that fragments of nondescript statues are permitted? This indicates that it is prohibited to derive benefit from fragments of idols that were known to be worshipped.
הוּא הַדִּין דַּאֲפִילּוּ שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה, וְהָא דְּקָתָנֵי שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים — מִשּׁוּם דְּקָבָעֵי לְמִיתְנֵא סֵיפָא: מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בָּהֶן נֶעֱבָד.
The Gemara answers: The mishna means that fragments of statues are permitted, and the same is true even of fragments of objects of idol worship. And that which is taught in the mishna: Fragments of statues, is not meant to exclude fragments of idols. Rather, this expression is used because the mishna sought to teach in the last clause: If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, even if they are not known to be objects of idol worship, as objects similar to those are worshipped. If the first clause in the mishna had referred to fragments of idols, it would have been inferred that the latter clause was referring specifically to the figure of a hand or foot that was known to have been worshipped, and that otherwise such figures would not be forbidden.
תְּנַן: מָצָא תַּבְנִית יָד תַּבְנִית רֶגֶל — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרִין, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁכַּיּוֹצֵא בּוֹ נֶעֱבָד. אַמַּאי?
We learned in the mishna: If one found an object in the figure of a hand or in the figure of a foot, these are forbidden, as objects similar to those are worshipped. The Gemara asks: Why?
וְהָא שְׁבָרִים נִינְהוּ! תַּרְגְּמַהּ שְׁמוּאֵל: בְּעוֹמְדִין עַל בְּסִיסָן.
But aren’t they fragments of idols, which are permitted according to Shmuel? The Gemara answers that Shmuel interpreted the mishna as follows: It is referring to a case where these objects that are in the figure of a hand or a foot are standing on their pedestals, which shows that they were designed this way initially and are not merely fragments.
אִתְּמַר: עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה שֶׁנִּשְׁתַּבְּרָה מֵאֵילֶיהָ, רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲסוּרָה, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מוּתֶּרֶת.
§ It was stated: With regard to objects of idol worship that broke by themselves, Rabbi Yoḥanan says: It is prohibited to derive benefit from them. Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says: It is permitted.
רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲסוּרָה, דְּהָא לָא בָּטְלָה. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מוּתֶּרֶת, מִסְּתָמָא בַּטּוֹלֵי מְבַטֵּיל לַהּ, מֵימָר אָמַר: אִיהִי נַפְשַׁהּ לָא אַצְּלָה, לְהָהוּא גַּבְרָא מַצְּלָה לֵיהּ?
The Gemara explains the sides of the dispute. Rabbi Yoḥanan says that it is prohibited, as its owner did not revoke its status as an object of idol worship. Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says that it is permitted, as the owner presumably revoked its status as an object of idol worship, having said to himself: If the idol could not save even itself from harm, can it save that man, i.e., myself?
אֵיתִיבֵיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ: ״וְרֹאשׁ דָּגוֹן וּשְׁתֵּי כַּפּוֹת יָדָיו כְּרֻתוֹת וְגוֹ׳״, וּכְתִיב: ״עַל כֵּן לֹא יִדְרְכוּ כֹהֲנֵי דָגוֹן וְגוֹ׳״!
Rabbi Yoḥanan raised an objection to Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish from the passage in the book of Samuel recounting the downfall of the Philistine god Dagon: “And when they arose early the next morning, behold, Dagon was fallen on his face to the ground before the Ark of the Lord; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands lay cut off upon the threshold; only the trunk of Dagon was left to him” (I Samuel 5:4). And from the next verse it seems that Dagon’s worshippers accorded it honor despite its destruction, as it is written: “Therefore, the priests of Dagon, and anyone who comes into Dagon’s house, do not tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod until this day” (I Samuel 5:5). Evidently, when an idol breaks, its worshippers do not stop worshipping it.
אָמַר לוֹ: מִשָּׁם רְאָיָה? הָתָם שֶׁמַּנִּיחִין אֶת הַדָּגוֹן, וְעוֹבְדִין אֶת הַמִּפְתָּן, דְּאָמְרִי הָכִי: שַׁבְקֵיהּ אִיסָרֵיהּ לְדָגוֹן, וַאֲתָא אִיתֵּיב לֵיהּ עַל הַמִּפְתָּן.
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said to him: Is there proof from there? There, the reason people did not tread on the threshold of Dagon is that they had abandoned their worship of the Dagon and would instead worship the threshold upon which Dagon was found, as they stated this reasoning: The spirit of Dagon has left the Dagon idol and instead it came and rested upon the threshold.
אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: הַמּוֹצֵא שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ מוּתָּרִין. הָא שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה — אֲסוּרִין!
Rabbi Yoḥanan raised another objection to Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish from the mishna: In the case of one who finds fragments of statues, these are permitted. This indicates that fragments of known objects of idol worship are forbidden.
לָא תֵּימָא שִׁבְרֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אֲסוּרִין, אֶלָּא אֵימָא: הָא צְלָמִים עַצְמָן אֲסוּרִין, וּסְתָמָא כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר.
Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish replied: Do not say that the indication is that fragments of objects of idol worship are forbidden; rather say that the indication is that full statues themselves are forbidden, and the unattributed mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Meir, who, in the previous mishna, prohibits any statue as it is possible that it is worshipped annually.
וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, מִדְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר נִשְׁמַע לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן, לָאו אָמַר רַבִּי מֵאִיר: צְלָמִים אֲסוּרִין, שִׁבְרֵי צְלָמִים מוּתָּרִין, לְרַבָּנַן עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה נָמֵי הִיא אֲסוּרָה וּשְׁבָרֶיהָ מוּתָּרִין!
The Gemara asks: But how does Rabbi Yoḥanan refute the following logic: From the opinion of Rabbi Meir one can learn a detail with regard to the opinion of the Rabbis. Doesn’t Rabbi Meir say that statues are forbidden, while fragments of statues are permitted? From this, one can derive that this is true according to the Rabbis as well with regard to objects of idol worship: The object itself is forbidden, but its fragments are permitted.
הָכִי הַשְׁתָּא? הָתָם אֵימַר עֲבָדוּם אֵימַר לֹא עֲבָדוּם, וְאִם תִּמְצֵי לוֹמַר עֲבָדוּם — אֵימַר בִּטְּלוּם. עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה וַדַּאי עֲבָדוּהָ, מִי יֵימַר דְּבַטְּלֻהָ? הָוֵי סָפֵק וּוַדַּאי, וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי!
The Gemara rejects this comparison: How can these cases be compared? There, in the case of statues, the fragments are permitted because there is room to say that people worshipped them, and there is also room to say that people did not worship them; and even if you say that people worshipped them, there is room to say that their owners subsequently revoked them. This is not comparable to an object of idol worship, which people certainly worshipped, and who is to say that its owner certainly revoked it? It is a conflict between an uncertainty as to whether or not it was revoked, and a certainty that it was worshipped, and the principle is that an uncertainty does not override a certainty.
וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי? וְהָתַנְיָא: חָבֵר שֶׁמֵּת, וְהִנִּיחַ מְגוּרָה מְלֵאָה פֵּירוֹת, אֲפִילּוּ הֵן בְּנֵי יוֹמָן — הֲרֵי הֵן בְּחֶזְקַת מְתוּקָּנִין.
The Gemara asks: And does an uncertainty not override a certainty? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: In the case of a ḥaver who died and left a storehouse filled with produce, even if the produce was there only that day, it has the presumptive status of produce that was ritually prepared, i.e., properly tithed. This is due to the presumption that the ḥaver tithed the produce himself or instructed others to do so.
וְהָא הָכָא דְּוַדַּאי טְבִילִי, סָפֵק עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, סָפֵק לָא עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, וְקָאָתֵי סָפֵק וּמוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי!
The Gemara infers: And here, in this case, the produce was certainly untithed at the outset, and there is uncertainty whether the ḥaver tithed it, and there is uncertainty whether he did not tithe it, and despite this conflict, the uncertainty whether it was tithed comes and overrides the certainty that it was untithed produce.
הָתָם וַדַּאי וּוַדַּאי הוּא, דְּוַדַּאי עַשְּׂרִינְהוּ, כִּדְרַבִּי חֲנִינָא חוֹזָאָה, דְּאָמַר רַבִּי חֲנִינָא חוֹזָאָה: חֲזָקָה עַל חָבֵר שֶׁאֵינוֹ מוֹצִיא דָּבָר שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְתוּקָּן מִתַּחַת יָדוֹ.
The Gemara rejects this claim: There, in that case, conflict is between certainty and certainty, as the ḥaver certainly tithed the produce. This presumption is in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Ḥanina Ḥoza’a; as Rabbi Ḥanina Ḥoza’a says: There is a presumption with regard to a ḥaver that he does not release an item from his possession that is not ritually prepared.
וְאִי בָּעֵית אֵימָא: מֵעִיקָּרָא לָא טְבִילִי, סָפֵק וְסָפֵק הוּא.
And if you wish, say instead that perhaps the produce did not initially have the status of untithed produce, and therefore the conflict is between uncertainty and uncertainty.
אֶפְשָׁר דַּעֲבַד כִּדְרַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא, דְּאָמַר: מַעֲרִים אָדָם עַל תְּבוּאָתוֹ וּמַכְנִיסָהּ בַּמּוֹץ שֶׁלָּהּ, כְּדֵי שֶׁתְּהֵא בְּהֶמְתּוֹ אוֹכֶלֶת וּפְטוּרָה מִן הַמַּעֲשֵׂר.
This is because it is possible that there was never an obligation to tithe the produce, as the ḥaver may have acted in accordance with the statement of Rabbi Oshaya, who says that a person can employ artifice to circumvent obligations incumbent upon him in dealing with his grain, and bring it into his courtyard in its chaff so that his animal may eat from it. And this grain is exempt from tithes. Although the obligation to tithe produce that has been fully processed applies even to animal fodder, it is permitted to feed one’s animal untithed produce that has not been fully processed. In light of this halakha it is possible that the produce in the storehouse of the ḥaver never needed to be tithed. Consequently, this case is a conflict between two uncertain factors, as it is uncertain whether or not the owner was obligated to tithe the produce in the first place, and even if he was required to do so, it is uncertain whether or not he tithed it.
וְאֵין סָפֵק מוֹצִיא מִידֵי וַדַּאי? וְהָתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּשִׁפְחָתוֹ
The Gemara raises another objection: And is it so that an uncertainty does not override a certainty? But isn’t it taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda said: There was an incident involving the maidservant
