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March 13, 2018 | ื›ืดื• ื‘ืื“ืจ ืชืฉืขืดื—

  • This month's learning is sponsored by Ron and Shira Krebs to commemorate the 73rd yahrzeit of Shira's grandfather (Yitzchak Leib Ben David Ber HaCohen v'Malka), the 1st yahrzeit of Shira's father (Gershon Pinya Ben Yitzchak Leib HaCohen v'Menucha Sara), and the bar mitzvah of their son Eytan who will be making a siyum on Mishna Shas this month.

  • This month's learning is sponsored for the refuah shleima of Naama bat Yael Esther.

Avodah Zarah 57

Rav and Shmuel have a debate regarding how to read a braitaย and therefore come to different halachic conclusions. According to Rav’s reading,ย a non-Jew does not need intent to forbid wine for drinking for a Jew (even a baby can forbid it). According to Shmuel’s reading, a Cannanite slave that was purchased from the market, needs a 12 month waiting period in the Jew’s home before being allowed to come in contact with the wine as there is concern he is still worshipping his idols and may offer the wine to his Gods.


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ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื›ื—ื ื ืชื ื ื“ืืกืจ ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ืื•ืกืจื™ื ื™ื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ื”ื ืื” ื“ืชื ื™ื ืžื“ื“ื• ื‘ื™ืŸ ื‘ื™ื“ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ื™ืžื›ืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ืื•ืžืจ ื‘ื™ื“ ืืกื•ืจ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ืžื•ืชืจ

I should delay my ruling, as if I find a tanna who prohibits the wine in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Natan, I will prohibit even deriving benefit from it; this is difficult. Rabbi Natan prohibits one from deriving benefit from wine that was touched by a gentile, as it is taught in a baraita: If a gentile measured a Jewโ€™s wine, whether he measured it with his hand or with his foot, it may be sold. Rabbi Natan says: If he measured it with his hand it is prohibited, but if he measured it with his foot it is permitted.

ืื™ืžืจ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื™ื“ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ืžื™ ืืžืจ ืืœื ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื›ื—ื ื ืชื ื ื“ืฉืจื™ ื›ืจื‘ื™ ืฉืžืขื•ืŸ ืื™ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ืฉืชื™ื™ื”

The Gemara explains why the suggestion that Shmuel delayed his ruling because of the opinion of Rabbi Natan is difficult: Say that Rabbi Natan said that the wine is forbidden when the gentile measured it with his hand. Did he say that the wine is forbidden if he measured it with his foot? Rather, Shmuel delayed ruling on the matter because he thought to himself: If I find another tanna who permits the wine in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, who holds that if a gentile touches wine without intending to render it a libation, it is permitted, I will permit the wine even for drinking.

ื”ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื‘ื“ื ื“ื”ื•ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืจื ื“ื”ื”ื•ื ื’ื•ื™ ื“ื”ื•ื” ืงื ืกืœื™ืง ื‘ื“ื™ืงืœื ื•ืื™ื™ืชื™ ืœื•ืœื™ื‘ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ ื“ืงื ื ื—ื™ืช ื ื’ืข ื‘ืจืืฉื” ื“ืœื•ืœื™ื‘ื ื‘ื—ืžืจื ืฉืœื ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ื” ืœื’ื•ื™ื

There was a certain incident in Biram that occurred as follows: There was a certain gentile who was climbing a palm tree and he brought down with him a palm branch. While he was descending from the tree he unintentionally touched some wine with the tip of the palm branch. Rav permitted the owners to sell the wine to gentiles.

ืืžืจื• ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ื›ื”ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืœืจื‘ ื•ื”ื ืžืจ ื”ื•ื ื“ืืžืจ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ื”ื•ื ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ืื™ืžื•ืจ ื“ืืžืจื™ ืื ื ื‘ืฉืชื™ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื ืื” ืžื™ ืืžืจื™

Rav Kahana and Rav Asi said to Rav: But wasnโ€™t it you, Master, who said: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation, even though he lacks any intent? Rav said to them: Say that I said that the baby renders the wine prohibited for drinking. Did I say that it is prohibited to derive benefit from it? It is therefore permitted to sell the wine.

ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš

ยง The Gemara cites Ravโ€™s statement in order to discuss the matter itself: Rav says: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation, even though he lacks any intent.

ืื™ืชื™ื‘ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืฉื™ืžื™ ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื™ื ืœืจื‘ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื•ื›ืŸ ื‘ื ื™ ื”ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ ื‘ืฉื•ืง ื˜ืžื ื•ืืžืจื™ ืœื” ื˜ื”ื•ืจ

Rav Shimi bar แธคiyya raised an objection to the statement of Rav from a baraita: With regard to one who purchases from the gentiles slaves who have been circumcised but have not immersed in a ritual bath, and also with regard to the sons of the gentile maidservants who grew up in a Jewโ€™s home and were circumcised but did not immerse in a ritual bath, their conversion is not yet valid. They have the legal status of gentiles, who transmit impurity like a zav, a man who experiences a gonorrhea-like discharge. Their spittle and objects upon which they tread, even if they are found in the marketplace, are ritually impure. But some say that they are ritually pure.

ื™ื™ื ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื” ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ื ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื”

The baraita continues: With regard to their wine, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but the minors do not render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation. And which slaves are considered adults, and which slaves are considered minors? The adults are those who know the nature of idol worship and its accessories, and the minors are those who do not know the nature of idol worship and its accessories.

ืงืชื ื™ ืžื™ื”ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืœื ืชืจื’ืžื” ืื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช

In any event, the baraita teaches that with regard to adults, yes, the wine they touch is rendered prohibited, but with regard to minors, no, the wine they touch is not rendered prohibited. This contradicts the statement of Rav. The Gemara replies: Interpret the distinction between adults and minors as referring to the sons of maidservants. Since they were raised in a Jewish home, there is less reason for concern lest they render the wine an idolatrous libation, and therefore the Sages did not prohibit wine touched by minors. This distinction does not apply in the case of slaves that were purchased from gentiles.

ื”ื ื•ื›ืŸ ืงืืžืจ ืืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

The Gemara asks: Doesnโ€™t the baraita say that the halakha applies to slaves purchased from gentiles and also to the sons of gentile maidservants, indicating that there is no differentiation between them? The Gemara replies: The baraita equates the two cases only with regard to the impurity of their spittle and of the objects upon which they tread.

ื”ื ื™ื—ื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ืžื ืืœื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ืžืื™ ืื™ื›ื ืœืžื™ืžืจ

The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says that their spittle and the objects upon which they tread are impure. But according to the one who says that they are pure, what can be said? If the spittle of the slaves and the objects upon which they tread are pure, clearly the halakha is the same in the case of the sons of maidservants, and it is unnecessary to state this. One may therefore conclude that the baraita equated the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch.

ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื“ื•ืžื™ื ื“ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžื” ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื”ื•ื ื“ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืœื ืืฃ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื›ืŸ

The Gemara replies: Even if the baraita is equating the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch, it is not equating them with regard to the distinction between adults and minors. Rather, this teaches us that the halakha with regard to slaves is similar to the halakha with regard to the sons of maidservants. Just as in the case of the sons of maidservants, it is only those who were circumcised but did not immerse who render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but those who were circumcised and immersed do not; so too in the case of slaves, once they have immersed in a ritual bath they do not render wine prohibited.

ืœืืคื•ืงื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืขื“ ืฉืชืฉืงืข ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ืžืคื™ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ื“ืœื

This halakha is to the exclusion of that which Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says, as Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says: In the case of one who purchases slaves from the gentiles, even though the slaves were circumcised and immersed in a ritual bath, they still render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, as they are accustomed to idolatrous practices, until reference to idol worship disappears from their mouths. The baraita teaches us that their wine is not prohibited.

ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืขื“ ืฉืชืฉืงืข ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ืžืคื™ื”ื ื•ื›ืžื” ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ืฉืข ื‘ืŸ ืœื•ื™ ืขื“ ืฉื ื™ื ืขืฉืจ ื—ื“ืฉ

ยง The Gemara cites the aforementioned statement in order to discuss the matter itself: Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says: In the case of one who purchases slaves from the gentiles, even though the slaves were circumcised and immersed in a ritual bath, they still render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, as they are accustomed to idolatrous practices, until reference to idol worship disappears from their mouths. And how much time does this take? Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi says: One does not assume that the slave has forgotten his idolatrous worship until twelve months have passed.

ืื™ืชื™ื‘ื™ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื•ื›ืŸ ื‘ื ื™ ื”ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

Rabba raised an objection to Rav Naแธฅman from the aforementioned baraita: With regard to one who purchases from the gentiles slaves that have been circumcised but have not immersed in a ritual bath, and also with regard to the sons of the gentile maidservants who grew up in a Jewโ€™s home and were circumcised but did not immerse in a ritual bath, their conversion is not valid and they have the legal status of gentiles. Their spittle and objects upon which they tread,

ื‘ืฉื•ืง ื˜ืžื ื•ืืžืจื™ ืœื” ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ื™ื™ื ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื” ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื”

even if they are found in the marketplace, are ritually impure. But some say that they are ritually pure. With regard to their wine, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but the minors do not render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation. Which slaves are considered adults, and which slaves are considered minors? The adults are those who know the nature of idol worship and its accessories, and the minors are those who do not know the nature of idol worship and its accessories.

ืงืชื ื™ ืžื™ื”ืช ืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืื™ืŸ ืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืœื ืชืจื’ืžื” ืื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช

In any event, the baraita teaches that with regard to those slaves who were circumcised but did not immerse, yes, the wine they touch is prohibited, but with regard to those who were circumcised and immersed, no, the wine they touch is not prohibited, even if they have not yet forgotten their idolatrous worship. The Gemara replies: Interpret this halakha as referring only to the sons of maidservants who were raised in a Jewish home and never engaged in idolatrous worship, but not to slaves who were acquired from gentiles.

ื”ื ื•ื›ืŸ ืงืชื ื™ ืืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

The Gemara asks: Doesnโ€™t the baraita teach that the halakha applies to slaves purchased from gentiles and also to the sons of gentile maidservants, indicating that there is no differentiation between them? The Gemara replies: The baraita equates the two cases only with regard to the impurity of their spittle and of the objects upon which they tread.

ื”ื ื™ื—ื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ืžื ืืœื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ืžืื™ ืื™ื›ื ืœืžื™ืžืจ

The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says that their spittle and the objects upon which they tread are impure. But according to the one who says that they are pure, what can be said? If the spittle of the slaves and the objects upon which they tread are pure, clearly the same halakha applies in the case of the sons of maidservants, and it is unnecessary to state this. One may therefore conclude that the baraita equated the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch.

ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื“ื•ืžื™ื ื“ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžื” ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื•ื ื“ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืฃ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื ืžื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš

The Gemara answers: Even if the baraita equates the slaves and the sons of maidservants with regard to the status of their wine, it does not intend to compare their status once they have immersed. Rather, this teaches us that the halakha with regard to slaves is similar to the halakha with regard to the sons of maidservants. Just as in the case of the sons of maidservants, it is only the adults who render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but minors do not render the wine they touch wine used for a libation, so too in the case of slaves, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but minors do not render the wine they touch wine used for a libation.

ืœืืคื•ืงื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ื“ืœื

This halakha is to the exclusion of that which Rav says, as Rav says: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation. The baraita teaches us that this is not the case.

ื”ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื‘ื“ื ื“ื”ื•ื” ื‘ืžื—ื•ื–ื ืืชื ื’ื•ื™ ืขื™ื™ืœ ืœื—ื ื•ืชื ื“ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ืื™ืช ืœื›ื• ื—ืžืจื ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ ืืžืจื• ืœื™ื” ืœื ื”ื•ื” ื™ืชื™ื‘ ื—ืžืจื ื‘ื“ื•ื•ืœื ืฉื“ื™ ื‘ื™ื” ื™ื“ื™ื” ืฉื™ื›ืฉืš ื‘ื™ื” ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ื”ืื™ ืœืื• ื—ืžืจื ื”ื•ื ืฉืงืœื™ื” ื”ืื™ืš ื‘ืจื™ืชื—ื™ื” ืฉื“ื™ื™ื” ืœื“ื ื

ยง The Gemara relates: There was a certain incident in Meแธฅoza in which a gentile came and entered the store of a Jew. The gentile said to the owners: Do you have any wine to sell? They said to him: No. There was wine sitting in a bucket. The gentile put his hand in it and stirred the wine around. The gentile said to them: This, is it not wine? The other person, i.e., the storeowner, took the bucket and, in his anger, threw its contents into a barrel of wine.

ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืจื‘ื ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ ืœื’ื•ื™ื ืื™ืคืœื™ื’ ืขืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจื™ื” ื“ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื ืคืงื™ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจื™ ื“ืจื‘ื ื•ืฉืจื• ื•ื ืคืงื™ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจื™ ื“ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื•ืืกืจื™

This incident raised a dilemma with regard to the status of the wine in the barrel. Rava permitted the owner to sell the wine to gentiles, as he held that it is permitted to derive benefit from the wine. Rav Huna bar แธคinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naแธฅman, disagreed with him. Blasts of shofarot went out from the court of Rava promulgating his ruling, and they permitted the sale. And blasts of shofarot went out from the court of Rav Huna bar แธคinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naแธฅman, promulgating their ruling, and they prohibited the sale.

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Avodah Zarah 57

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Avodah Zarah 57

ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื›ื—ื ื ืชื ื ื“ืืกืจ ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ืื•ืกืจื™ื ื™ื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ื”ื ืื” ื“ืชื ื™ื ืžื“ื“ื• ื‘ื™ืŸ ื‘ื™ื“ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ื™ืžื›ืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ืื•ืžืจ ื‘ื™ื“ ืืกื•ืจ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ืžื•ืชืจ

I should delay my ruling, as if I find a tanna who prohibits the wine in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Natan, I will prohibit even deriving benefit from it; this is difficult. Rabbi Natan prohibits one from deriving benefit from wine that was touched by a gentile, as it is taught in a baraita: If a gentile measured a Jewโ€™s wine, whether he measured it with his hand or with his foot, it may be sold. Rabbi Natan says: If he measured it with his hand it is prohibited, but if he measured it with his foot it is permitted.

ืื™ืžืจ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื ืชืŸ ื‘ื™ื“ ื‘ืจื’ืœ ืžื™ ืืžืจ ืืœื ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื›ื—ื ื ืชื ื ื“ืฉืจื™ ื›ืจื‘ื™ ืฉืžืขื•ืŸ ืื™ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ืฉืชื™ื™ื”

The Gemara explains why the suggestion that Shmuel delayed his ruling because of the opinion of Rabbi Natan is difficult: Say that Rabbi Natan said that the wine is forbidden when the gentile measured it with his hand. Did he say that the wine is forbidden if he measured it with his foot? Rather, Shmuel delayed ruling on the matter because he thought to himself: If I find another tanna who permits the wine in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, who holds that if a gentile touches wine without intending to render it a libation, it is permitted, I will permit the wine even for drinking.

ื”ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื‘ื“ื ื“ื”ื•ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืจื ื“ื”ื”ื•ื ื’ื•ื™ ื“ื”ื•ื” ืงื ืกืœื™ืง ื‘ื“ื™ืงืœื ื•ืื™ื™ืชื™ ืœื•ืœื™ื‘ื ื‘ื”ื“ื™ ื“ืงื ื ื—ื™ืช ื ื’ืข ื‘ืจืืฉื” ื“ืœื•ืœื™ื‘ื ื‘ื—ืžืจื ืฉืœื ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ื” ืœื’ื•ื™ื

There was a certain incident in Biram that occurred as follows: There was a certain gentile who was climbing a palm tree and he brought down with him a palm branch. While he was descending from the tree he unintentionally touched some wine with the tip of the palm branch. Rav permitted the owners to sell the wine to gentiles.

ืืžืจื• ืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ื›ื”ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ืืกื™ ืœืจื‘ ื•ื”ื ืžืจ ื”ื•ื ื“ืืžืจ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ื”ื•ื ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ืื™ืžื•ืจ ื“ืืžืจื™ ืื ื ื‘ืฉืชื™ื™ื” ื‘ื”ื ืื” ืžื™ ืืžืจื™

Rav Kahana and Rav Asi said to Rav: But wasnโ€™t it you, Master, who said: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation, even though he lacks any intent? Rav said to them: Say that I said that the baby renders the wine prohibited for drinking. Did I say that it is prohibited to derive benefit from it? It is therefore permitted to sell the wine.

ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš

ยง The Gemara cites Ravโ€™s statement in order to discuss the matter itself: Rav says: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation, even though he lacks any intent.

ืื™ืชื™ื‘ื™ื” ืจื‘ ืฉื™ืžื™ ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื™ื ืœืจื‘ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื•ื›ืŸ ื‘ื ื™ ื”ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ ื‘ืฉื•ืง ื˜ืžื ื•ืืžืจื™ ืœื” ื˜ื”ื•ืจ

Rav Shimi bar แธคiyya raised an objection to the statement of Rav from a baraita: With regard to one who purchases from the gentiles slaves who have been circumcised but have not immersed in a ritual bath, and also with regard to the sons of the gentile maidservants who grew up in a Jewโ€™s home and were circumcised but did not immerse in a ritual bath, their conversion is not yet valid. They have the legal status of gentiles, who transmit impurity like a zav, a man who experiences a gonorrhea-like discharge. Their spittle and objects upon which they tread, even if they are found in the marketplace, are ritually impure. But some say that they are ritually pure.

ื™ื™ื ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื” ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ื ื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื”

The baraita continues: With regard to their wine, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but the minors do not render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation. And which slaves are considered adults, and which slaves are considered minors? The adults are those who know the nature of idol worship and its accessories, and the minors are those who do not know the nature of idol worship and its accessories.

ืงืชื ื™ ืžื™ื”ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืœื ืชืจื’ืžื” ืื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช

In any event, the baraita teaches that with regard to adults, yes, the wine they touch is rendered prohibited, but with regard to minors, no, the wine they touch is not rendered prohibited. This contradicts the statement of Rav. The Gemara replies: Interpret the distinction between adults and minors as referring to the sons of maidservants. Since they were raised in a Jewish home, there is less reason for concern lest they render the wine an idolatrous libation, and therefore the Sages did not prohibit wine touched by minors. This distinction does not apply in the case of slaves that were purchased from gentiles.

ื”ื ื•ื›ืŸ ืงืืžืจ ืืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

The Gemara asks: Doesnโ€™t the baraita say that the halakha applies to slaves purchased from gentiles and also to the sons of gentile maidservants, indicating that there is no differentiation between them? The Gemara replies: The baraita equates the two cases only with regard to the impurity of their spittle and of the objects upon which they tread.

ื”ื ื™ื—ื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ืžื ืืœื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ืžืื™ ืื™ื›ื ืœืžื™ืžืจ

The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says that their spittle and the objects upon which they tread are impure. But according to the one who says that they are pure, what can be said? If the spittle of the slaves and the objects upon which they tread are pure, clearly the halakha is the same in the case of the sons of maidservants, and it is unnecessary to state this. One may therefore conclude that the baraita equated the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch.

ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื“ื•ืžื™ื ื“ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžื” ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื”ื•ื ื“ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืœื ืืฃ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื›ืŸ

The Gemara replies: Even if the baraita is equating the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch, it is not equating them with regard to the distinction between adults and minors. Rather, this teaches us that the halakha with regard to slaves is similar to the halakha with regard to the sons of maidservants. Just as in the case of the sons of maidservants, it is only those who were circumcised but did not immerse who render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but those who were circumcised and immersed do not; so too in the case of slaves, once they have immersed in a ritual bath they do not render wine prohibited.

ืœืืคื•ืงื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืขื“ ืฉืชืฉืงืข ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ืžืคื™ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ื“ืœื

This halakha is to the exclusion of that which Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says, as Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says: In the case of one who purchases slaves from the gentiles, even though the slaves were circumcised and immersed in a ritual bath, they still render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, as they are accustomed to idolatrous practices, until reference to idol worship disappears from their mouths. The baraita teaches us that their wine is not prohibited.

ื’ื•ืคื ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืขื“ ืฉืชืฉืงืข ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ืžืคื™ื”ื ื•ื›ืžื” ืืžืจ ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ืฉืข ื‘ืŸ ืœื•ื™ ืขื“ ืฉื ื™ื ืขืฉืจ ื—ื“ืฉ

ยง The Gemara cites the aforementioned statement in order to discuss the matter itself: Rav Naแธฅman says that Shmuel says: In the case of one who purchases slaves from the gentiles, even though the slaves were circumcised and immersed in a ritual bath, they still render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, as they are accustomed to idolatrous practices, until reference to idol worship disappears from their mouths. And how much time does this take? Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi says: One does not assume that the slave has forgotten his idolatrous worship until twelve months have passed.

ืื™ืชื™ื‘ื™ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื”ืœื•ืงื— ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื’ื•ื™ื ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ื•ื›ืŸ ื‘ื ื™ ื”ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืฉืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

Rabba raised an objection to Rav Naแธฅman from the aforementioned baraita: With regard to one who purchases from the gentiles slaves that have been circumcised but have not immersed in a ritual bath, and also with regard to the sons of the gentile maidservants who grew up in a Jewโ€™s home and were circumcised but did not immerse in a ritual bath, their conversion is not valid and they have the legal status of gentiles. Their spittle and objects upon which they tread,

ื‘ืฉื•ืง ื˜ืžื ื•ืืžืจื™ ืœื” ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ื™ื™ื ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื” ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ืŸ ื‘ื˜ื™ื‘ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืžืฉืžืฉื™ื”

even if they are found in the marketplace, are ritually impure. But some say that they are ritually pure. With regard to their wine, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but the minors do not render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation. Which slaves are considered adults, and which slaves are considered minors? The adults are those who know the nature of idol worship and its accessories, and the minors are those who do not know the nature of idol worship and its accessories.

ืงืชื ื™ ืžื™ื”ืช ืžืœื• ื•ืœื ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืื™ืŸ ืžืœื• ื•ื˜ื‘ืœื• ืœื ืชืจื’ืžื” ืื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช

In any event, the baraita teaches that with regard to those slaves who were circumcised but did not immerse, yes, the wine they touch is prohibited, but with regard to those who were circumcised and immersed, no, the wine they touch is not prohibited, even if they have not yet forgotten their idolatrous worship. The Gemara replies: Interpret this halakha as referring only to the sons of maidservants who were raised in a Jewish home and never engaged in idolatrous worship, but not to slaves who were acquired from gentiles.

ื”ื ื•ื›ืŸ ืงืชื ื™ ืืจื•ืงืŸ ื•ืžื“ืจืกืŸ

The Gemara asks: Doesnโ€™t the baraita teach that the halakha applies to slaves purchased from gentiles and also to the sons of gentile maidservants, indicating that there is no differentiation between them? The Gemara replies: The baraita equates the two cases only with regard to the impurity of their spittle and of the objects upon which they tread.

ื”ื ื™ื—ื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ืžื ืืœื ืœืžืืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื˜ื”ื•ืจ ืžืื™ ืื™ื›ื ืœืžื™ืžืจ

The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says that their spittle and the objects upon which they tread are impure. But according to the one who says that they are pure, what can be said? If the spittle of the slaves and the objects upon which they tread are pure, clearly the same halakha applies in the case of the sons of maidservants, and it is unnecessary to state this. One may therefore conclude that the baraita equated the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch.

ื”ื ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื“ื•ืžื™ื ื“ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ืžื” ื‘ื ื™ ืฉืคื—ื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื•ื ื“ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืืฃ ืขื‘ื“ื™ื ื ืžื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืขื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš

The Gemara answers: Even if the baraita equates the slaves and the sons of maidservants with regard to the status of their wine, it does not intend to compare their status once they have immersed. Rather, this teaches us that the halakha with regard to slaves is similar to the halakha with regard to the sons of maidservants. Just as in the case of the sons of maidservants, it is only the adults who render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but minors do not render the wine they touch wine used for a libation, so too in the case of slaves, the adults render the wine that they touch wine used for a libation, but minors do not render the wine they touch wine used for a libation.

ืœืืคื•ืงื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ ื“ืืžืจ ืจื‘ ืชื™ื ื•ืง ื‘ืŸ ื™ื•ืžื• ืขื•ืฉื” ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืกืš ืงื ืžืฉืžืข ืœืŸ ื“ืœื

This halakha is to the exclusion of that which Rav says, as Rav says: If a gentile baby who is one day old touches wine, he renders it wine used for a libation. The baraita teaches us that this is not the case.

ื”ื”ื•ื ืขื•ื‘ื“ื ื“ื”ื•ื” ื‘ืžื—ื•ื–ื ืืชื ื’ื•ื™ ืขื™ื™ืœ ืœื—ื ื•ืชื ื“ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ืื™ืช ืœื›ื• ื—ืžืจื ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ ืืžืจื• ืœื™ื” ืœื ื”ื•ื” ื™ืชื™ื‘ ื—ืžืจื ื‘ื“ื•ื•ืœื ืฉื“ื™ ื‘ื™ื” ื™ื“ื™ื” ืฉื™ื›ืฉืš ื‘ื™ื” ืืžืจ ืœื”ื• ื”ืื™ ืœืื• ื—ืžืจื ื”ื•ื ืฉืงืœื™ื” ื”ืื™ืš ื‘ืจื™ืชื—ื™ื” ืฉื“ื™ื™ื” ืœื“ื ื

ยง The Gemara relates: There was a certain incident in Meแธฅoza in which a gentile came and entered the store of a Jew. The gentile said to the owners: Do you have any wine to sell? They said to him: No. There was wine sitting in a bucket. The gentile put his hand in it and stirred the wine around. The gentile said to them: This, is it not wine? The other person, i.e., the storeowner, took the bucket and, in his anger, threw its contents into a barrel of wine.

ืฉืจื™ื™ื” ืจื‘ื ืœื–ื‘ื•ื ื™ ืœื’ื•ื™ื ืื™ืคืœื™ื’ ืขืœื™ื” ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจื™ื” ื“ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื ืคืงื™ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจื™ ื“ืจื‘ื ื•ืฉืจื• ื•ื ืคืงื™ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจื™ ื“ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ื—ื™ื ื ื ื•ืจื‘ ื”ื•ื ื ื‘ืจ ืจื‘ ื ื—ืžืŸ ื•ืืกืจื™

This incident raised a dilemma with regard to the status of the wine in the barrel. Rava permitted the owner to sell the wine to gentiles, as he held that it is permitted to derive benefit from the wine. Rav Huna bar แธคinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naแธฅman, disagreed with him. Blasts of shofarot went out from the court of Rava promulgating his ruling, and they permitted the sale. And blasts of shofarot went out from the court of Rav Huna bar แธคinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naแธฅman, promulgating their ruling, and they prohibited the sale.

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