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Bava Batra 51

וְדַיָּינֵי גוֹלָה אָמְרוּ: מַחְזִיקִין. אָמַר רַב: הֲלָכָה כְּדַיָּינֵי גוֹלָה. אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ רַב כָּהֲנָא וְרַב אַסִּי לְרַב: הֲדַר בֵּיהּ מָר מִשְּׁמַעְתֵּיהּ? אֲמַר לְהוּ: מִסְתַּבְּרָא אֲמַרִי – כִּדְרַב יוֹסֵף.

but the judges of the exile said that one can establish the presumption of ownership. Rav says: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of the judges of the exile. Rav Kahana and Rav Asi said to Rav: Has the Master retracted his halakha that one cannot establish the presumption of ownership with regard to the property of a married woman? Rav said to them: I said that the opinion of the judges of the exile is reasonable, as the presumption of ownership can be established with regard the property of a married woman under certain circumstances. The Gemara comments: This is like that ruling of Rav Yosef with regard to one who possesses the land for three years after the death of the husband.

וְלֹא לְאִשָּׁה בְּנִכְסֵי בַעְלָהּ וְכוּ׳. פְּשִׁיטָא – כֵּיוָן דְּאִית לַהּ מְזוֹנֵי, מְזוֹנֵי הוּא דְּקָא אָכְלָה! לָא צְרִיכָא, דְּיַחֵד לַהּ אַרְעָא אַחֲרִיתִי לִמְזוֹנַהּ.

§ The mishna teaches: And a wife does not have the ability to establish the presumption of ownership with regard to her husband’s property. The Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious? Since she has the right to sustenance from her husband’s property, she is enjoying the profits as payment of her sustenance, so her use of the property does not establish the presumption of ownership. The Gemara responds: No, it is necessary to state this halakha in the event that he designated another parcel of land for her sustenance. The mishna teaches that even if she enjoys the profits of a second field for three years, she does not establish the presumption of ownership of that field.

הָא רְאָיָה – יֵשׁ? לֵימָא לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי!

The Gemara asks: By inference, the wife has the ability to bring proof of her ownership and take possession of her husband’s field. Why is this proof valid? Let him say that he desires to expose her concealed money. If he offers to sell the field to her and she agrees, it will be discovered that she has money of which he had been unaware. His intention was never to sell the property, but to claim money to which he is entitled.

שָׁמְעַתְּ מִינַּהּ, הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְלָא אָמְרִינַן: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי?! לָא; אֵימָא: הָא רְאָיָה יֵשׁ – בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה.

Can one conclude from this mishna that in the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money? The Gemara answers: No, as one may say that the inference from the mishna that if she has proof then she has ownership rights is the halakha only with regard to a deed of gift, as, if her husband gave her the field as a gift, he cannot claim that he did so in order to expose her concealed money.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב נַחְמָן לְרַב הוּנָא: לָא הֲוָה מָר גַּבָּן בְּאוּרְתָּא בִּתְחוּמָא, דְּאָמְרִינַן מִילֵּי מְעַלְּיָיתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי מִילֵּי מְעַלְּיָיתָא אָמְרִיתוּ? הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְלָא אָמְרִינַן לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי.

The Gemara relates: Rav Naḥman said to Rav Huna: The Master was not with us in the evening in the study hall that is within the boundaries of the town, where we said a superior matter. Rav Huna said to him: What superior matter did you say? Rav Naḥman responded: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: פְּשִׁיטָא, דַּל זוּזֵי מֵהָכָא – וְתִיקְנֵי בִּשְׁטָרָא! מִי לָא תְּנַן: נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת נִקְנִין בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה?

Rav Huna said to him: That is obvious; remove the money from here and she will acquire the property by means of the bill of sale, as, even if she has not yet given him the money, she acquires the land by means of the bill of sale. Didn’t we learn in a mishna (Kiddushin 26a): Property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land, can be acquired by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of it?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: וְלָאו אִיתְּמַר עֲלַהּ, אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה, אֲבָל בִּשְׁטַר מֶכֶר – לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּתֵּן לוֹ דָּמֶיהָ? וְלָאו מוֹתֵיב רַב הַמְנוּנָא: בִּשְׁטָר – כֵּיצַד? כָּתַב לוֹ עַל הַנְּיָיר אוֹ עַל הַחֶרֶס – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בּוֹ שָׁוֶה פְּרוּטָה: ״שָׂדִי מְכוּרָה לָךְ״, ״שָׂדִי קְנוּיָה לָךְ״ – הֲרֵי זוֹ מְכוּרָה וּנְתוּנָה?

Rav Naḥman said to him: But wasn’t it stated with regard to this that Shmuel says: They taught that the document alone suffices only if the transaction is with a deed of gift, but if the transaction is with a bill of sale, the buyer does not acquire the property until he gives him its money? Rav Huna responded: But didn’t Rav Hamnuna raise an objection to this, based on this following baraita: How is acquisition by means of giving a document performed? If he wrote it for him on paper or earthenware, then even though the paper or the earthenware is not worth even one peruta, if he writes: My field is sold to you, or: My field is acquired by you as a gift, it is thereby sold or given. This indicates that a document suffices to complete an acquisition both in the case of a sale and a gift.

וְלָאו הוּא מוֹתֵיב לַהּ וְהוּא מְפָרֵק לַהּ – בְּמוֹכֵר שָׂדֵהוּ מִפְּנֵי רָעָתָהּ?

Rav Naḥman responded: But is it not so that he, Rav Hamnuna, raises the objection and he himself resolves it? The baraita states its ruling with regard to one who sells his field due to its poor quality. The seller wants to be rid of his field due to its low value, and would like to transfer ownership of it as quickly as possible. In this case, writing a document suffices to complete the acquisition. By contrast, in standard cases it does not. Since the acquisition of a field requires monetary payment in addition to a bill of sale, Rav Naḥman’s statement, that if one sells a field to his wife the sale is valid and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money, is a novelty.

(רַב בִּיבִי מְסַיֵּים בַּהּ מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן) וְרַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָהּ לוֹ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לוֹ בִּלְשׁוֹן מֶכֶר? כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת כֹּחוֹ.

The Gemara notes that in interpreting this baraita, Rav Beivai would conclude in the name of Rav Naḥman, or, according to another version, Rav Ashi says: Why does a document suffice for him to acquire the land? It is because it is assumed that he wanted to give it to him as a gift. And why did he write the document for him employing the terminology of a sale? It was in order to enhance the power of the one acquiring the land, since with regard to a property guarantee, i.e., a document that states that if the property is seized by the seller’s creditor, the seller will reimburse the buyer for his loss, a bill of sale is superior to a deed of gift.

מֵיתִיבִי: לָוָה מִן הָעֶבֶד, וְשִׁחְרְרוֹ; מִן הָאִשָּׁה, וְגֵרְשָׁהּ – אֵין לָהֶן עָלָיו כְּלוּם. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּאָמְרִינַן: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי?

The Gemara raises an objection to the ruling of Rav Naḥman, that we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money, from a baraita: If one borrowed money from his own slave and then frees him, or if one borrowed money from his wife and then divorces her, they do not have any claim on him, and he need not repay them. What is the reason for this? Is it not because we say that he desires to expose their concealed money, and his taking of the loan was a mere artifice to claim money to which he was entitled?

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם, דְּלָא נִיחָא לֵיהּ לְשַׁוּוֹיֵיהּ נַפְשֵׁיהּ ״עֶבֶד לֹוֶה לְאִישׁ מַלְוֶה״.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, because there is an additional reason to think it was an artifice, as it is uncomfortable for him to make applicable to himself the verse: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7). It is therefore reasonable to posit that his intention was not to borrow money, but to expose the concealed money that was in the possession of his slave or wife. This concern does not apply to one who sells property to his wife, and therefore the sale is valid.

שְׁלַח רַב הוּנָא בַּר אָבִין: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה,

The Gemara relates that Rav Huna bar Avin sent a ruling to those in the study hall: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it,

וּבַעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּרַם, רַבִּי אַבָּא וְרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ וְכׇל גְּדוֹלֵי הַדּוֹר אָמְרוּ: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנוֹ לָהּ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לָהּ לְשׁוּם מֶכֶר? כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת אֶת כֹּחָהּ.

and as long as they remain married, the husband enjoys the profits, as he would with any usufruct property. But Rabbi Abba and Rabbi Abbahu and all of the great Sages of the generation said that the assumption is that the husband wanted to give it to her as a gift. And why did he write the deed for her employing terminology indicating that it is for the sake of a sale? It was in order to enhance her power.

מֵיתִיבִי: לָוָה מִן הָעֶבֶד וְשִׁחְרְרוֹ, מִן הָאִשָּׁה וְגֵרְשָׁהּ – אֵין לָהֶן עָלָיו כְּלוּם. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּאָמְרִי: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דִּבְעָא?

The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita to the ruling that the wife acquires the property: If one borrowed from his own slave and then freed him, or if one borrowed from his wife and then divorced her, they do not have any claim on him, and he need not repay them. What is the reason for this? Is it not because we say that he desired to expose their concealed money, and his taking of the loan was merely an artifice to claim money to which he was entitled? Similarly, the assumption should be that his sale to her was merely an artifice.

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם, דְּלָא לִישַׁוֵּי אִינִישׁ ״עֶבֶד לֹוֶה לְאִישׁ מַלְוֶה״.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, because there is an additional reason to think it was an artifice, as it is uncomfortable for a person to be described by the verse: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7). It is therefore reasonable to posit that his intention was not to borrow money, but to expose the concealed money that was in the possession of his slave or wife. This concern does not apply to one who sells property to his wife, and therefore the sale is valid.

אָמַר רַב: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְהַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּמַתָּנָה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. וְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר: אֶחָד זֶה וְאֶחָד זֶה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת.

The Gemara quotes a related statement. Rav says: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and the husband enjoys the profits. In the case of one who gives a married woman the field as a gift, she has acquired it and the husband does not enjoy the profits, since he gave it to her completely. And Rabbi Elazar says: In both this case and that case she has acquired it, and the husband does not enjoy the profits.

עֲבַד רַב חִסְדָּא עוֹבָדָא כְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר. אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ רַבָּן עוּקְבָא וְרַבָּן נְחֶמְיָה בְּנֵי בְנָתֵיהּ דְּרַב, לְרַב חִסְדָּא: שָׁבֵיק מָר רַבְרְבֵי, וְעָבֵיד כְּזוּטְרֵי?! אֲמַר לְהוּ: וַאֲנָא נָמֵי כְּרַבְרְבֵי עֲבַדִי, דְּכִי אֲתָא רָבִין אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אֶחָד זֶה וְאֶחָד זֶה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת.

The Gemara relates: Rav Ḥisda performed an action in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, and did not allow a husband to enjoy the profits of a field he sold to his wife. Rabban Ukva and Rabban Neḥemya, the sons of Rav’s daughters, said to Rav Ḥisda: Does the Master abandon a greater Sage, i.e., Rav, the greatest Sage of his generation, and act in accordance with the opinion of a lesser Sage, i.e., Rabbi Elazar, who was Rav’s student? Rav Ḥisda said to them: But I too am acting in accordance with the opinion of a greater Sage, as when Ravin came from Eretz Yisrael, he said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: In both this case and that case she has acquired it, and the husband does not enjoy the profits. I am consequently not relying exclusively on Rabbi Elazar’s opinion, but also on that of Rabbi Yoḥanan.

אָמַר רָבָא, הִלְכְתָא: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – לֹא קָנְתָה, וְהַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּמַתָּנָה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. תַּרְתֵּי?!

Rava says that the halakha is: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has not acquired it, and the husband enjoys the profits. In the case of one who gives a married woman the field as a gift, she has acquired it and the husband does not enjoy the profits. The Gemara asks with regard to the first halakha: Can these two ostensibly contradictory rulings be given? Rava’s statement that the wife has not acquired the field means that the husband still owns it, while his statement that the husband enjoys the profits, i.e., he merely enjoys the profits but does not own the field, indicates that the field itself is owned by the wife.

לָא קַשְׁיָא; כָּאן בְּמָעוֹת טְמוּנִין, כָּאן בְּמָעוֹת שֶׁאֵין טְמוּנִין – דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: מָעוֹת טְמוּנִין – לֹא קָנְתָה, מָעוֹת שֶׁאֵינָן טְמוּנִין – קָנְתָה.

The Gemara responds: This is not difficult, because Rava is referring to two different cases. Here, where he says that she has not acquired the land, he is referring to a case where her money was concealed, and the sale was an artifice to expose it; while there, where he says that she acquires the land, he is referring to a case where she had money that is not concealed. As Rav Yehuda says: If she purchased the field with concealed money, she has not acquired it; if she purchased it with money that is not concealed, she has acquired it.

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: אֵין מְקַבְּלִין פִּקְדוֹנוֹת – לֹא מִן הַנָּשִׁים, וְלֹא מִן הָעֲבָדִים, וְלֹא מִן הַתִּינוֹקוֹת. קִבֵּל מִן הָאִשָּׁה – יַחְזִיר לָאִשָּׁה, וְאִם מֵתָה – יַחְזִיר לְבַעְלָהּ. קִבֵּל מִן הָעֶבֶד – יַחְזִיר לָעֶבֶד, וְאִם מֵת – יַחְזִיר לְרַבּוֹ.

§ The Sages taught in a baraita: One may not accept deposits from women, and not from slaves, and not from children. Since it is likely that they do not own property, they might have taken the item without authorization from their husband, master, or parent, respectively. Consequently, one should not accept the deposit. If, however, one accepted a deposit from a woman, he must return it to the woman, as he cannot be certain that it is not hers. And if the woman died, he must return it to her husband, as he is her heir. If one accepted a deposit from a slave, he must return it to the slave, since it might not belong to the master. And if the slave died, he must return it to his master.

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In early January of 2020, I learned about Siyyum HaShas and Daf Yomi via Tablet Magazine’s brief daily podcast about the Daf. I found it compelling and fascinating. Soon I discovered Hadran; since then I have learned the Daf daily with Rabbanit Michelle Cohen Farber. The Daf has permeated my every hour, and has transformed and magnified my place within the Jewish Universe.

Lisa Berkelhammer
Lisa Berkelhammer

San Francisco, CA , United States

I started to listen to Michelle’s podcasts four years ago. The minute I started I was hooked. I’m so excited to learn the entire Talmud, and think I will continue always. I chose the quote “while a woman is engaged in conversation she also holds the spindle”. (Megillah 14b). It reminds me of all of the amazing women I learn with every day who multi-task, think ahead and accomplish so much.

Julie Mendelsohn
Julie Mendelsohn

Zichron Yakov, Israel

When we heard that R. Michelle was starting daf yomi, my 11-year-old suggested that I go. Little did she know that she would lose me every morning from then on. I remember standing at the Farbers’ door, almost too shy to enter. After that first class, I said that I would come the next day but couldn’t commit to more. A decade later, I still look forward to learning from R. Michelle every morning.

Ruth Leah Kahan
Ruth Leah Kahan

Ra’anana, Israel

Geri Goldstein got me started learning daf yomi when I was in Israel 2 years ago. It’s been a challenge and I’ve learned a lot though I’m sure I miss a lot. I quilt as I listen and I want to share what I’ve been working on.

Rebecca Stulberg
Rebecca Stulberg

Ottawa, Canada

My first Talmud class experience was a weekly group in 1971 studying Taanit. In 2007 I resumed Talmud study with a weekly group I continue learning with. January 2020, I was inspired to try learning Daf Yomi. A friend introduced me to Daf Yomi for Women and Rabbanit Michelle Farber, I have kept with this program and look forward, G- willing, to complete the entire Shas with Hadran.
Lorri Lewis
Lorri Lewis

Palo Alto, CA, United States

I decided to learn one masechet, Brachot, but quickly fell in love and never stopped! It has been great, everyone is always asking how it’s going and chering me on, and my students are always making sure I did the day’s daf.

Yafit Fishbach
Yafit Fishbach

Memphis, Tennessee, United States

I started learning with rabbis. I needed to know more than the stories. My first teacher to show me “the way of the Talmud” as well as the stories was Samara Schwartz.
Michelle Farber started the new cycle 2 yrs ago and I jumped on for the ride.
I do not look back.

Jenifer Nech
Jenifer Nech

Houston, United States

I start learning Daf Yomi in January 2020. The daily learning with Rabbanit Michelle has kept me grounded in this very uncertain time. Despite everything going on – the Pandemic, my personal life, climate change, war, etc… I know I can count on Hadran’s podcast to bring a smile to my face.
Deb Engel
Deb Engel

Los Angeles, United States

My family recently made Aliyah, because we believe the next chapter in the story of the Jewish people is being written here, and we want to be a part of it. Daf Yomi, on the other hand, connects me BACK, to those who wrote earlier chapters thousands of years ago. So, I feel like I’m living in the middle of this epic story. I’m learning how it all began, and looking ahead to see where it goes!
Tina Lamm
Tina Lamm

Jerusalem, Israel

I began my journey with Rabbanit Michelle more than five years ago. My friend came up with a great idea for about 15 of us to learn the daf and one of us would summarize weekly what we learned.
It was fun but after 2-3 months people began to leave. I have continued. Since the cycle began Again I have joined the Teaneck women.. I find it most rewarding in so many ways. Thank you

Dena Heller
Dena Heller

New Jersey, United States

What a great experience to learn with Rabbanit Michelle Farber. I began with this cycle in January 2020 and have been comforted by the consistency and energy of this process throughout the isolation period of Covid. Week by week, I feel like I am exploring a treasure chest with sparkling gems and puzzling antiquities. The hunt is exhilarating.

Marian Frankston
Marian Frankston

Pennsylvania, United States

I started learning Jan 2020 when I heard the new cycle was starting. I had tried during the last cycle and didn’t make it past a few weeks. Learning online from old men didn’t speak to my soul and I knew Talmud had to be a soul journey for me. Enter Hadran! Talmud from Rabbanit Michelle Farber from a woman’s perspective, a mother’s perspective and a modern perspective. Motivated to continue!

Keren Carter
Keren Carter

Brentwood, California, United States

I started learning on January 5, 2020. When I complete the 7+ year cycle I will be 70 years old. I had been intimidated by those who said that I needed to study Talmud in a traditional way with a chevruta, but I decided the learning was more important to me than the method. Thankful for Daf Yomi for Women helping me catch up when I fall behind, and also being able to celebrate with each Siyum!

Pamela Elisheva
Pamela Elisheva

Bakersfield, United States

I began my journey two years ago at the beginning of this cycle of the daf yomi. It has been an incredible, challenging experience and has given me a new perspective of Torah Sh’baal Peh and the role it plays in our lives

linda kalish-marcus
linda kalish-marcus

Efrat, Israel

Hearing and reading about the siyumim at the completion of the 13 th cycle Daf Yomi asked our shul rabbi about starting the Daf – he directed me to another shiur in town he thought would allow a woman to join, and so I did! Love seeing the sources for the Divrei Torah I’ve been hearing for the past decades of living an observant life and raising 5 children .

Jill Felder
Jill Felder

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States

Bava Batra 51

וְדַיָּינֵי גוֹלָה אָמְרוּ: מַחְזִיקִין. אָמַר רַב: הֲלָכָה כְּדַיָּינֵי גוֹלָה. אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ רַב כָּהֲנָא וְרַב אַסִּי לְרַב: הֲדַר בֵּיהּ מָר מִשְּׁמַעְתֵּיהּ? אֲמַר לְהוּ: מִסְתַּבְּרָא אֲמַרִי – כִּדְרַב יוֹסֵף.

but the judges of the exile said that one can establish the presumption of ownership. Rav says: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of the judges of the exile. Rav Kahana and Rav Asi said to Rav: Has the Master retracted his halakha that one cannot establish the presumption of ownership with regard to the property of a married woman? Rav said to them: I said that the opinion of the judges of the exile is reasonable, as the presumption of ownership can be established with regard the property of a married woman under certain circumstances. The Gemara comments: This is like that ruling of Rav Yosef with regard to one who possesses the land for three years after the death of the husband.

וְלֹא לְאִשָּׁה בְּנִכְסֵי בַעְלָהּ וְכוּ׳. פְּשִׁיטָא – כֵּיוָן דְּאִית לַהּ מְזוֹנֵי, מְזוֹנֵי הוּא דְּקָא אָכְלָה! לָא צְרִיכָא, דְּיַחֵד לַהּ אַרְעָא אַחֲרִיתִי לִמְזוֹנַהּ.

§ The mishna teaches: And a wife does not have the ability to establish the presumption of ownership with regard to her husband’s property. The Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious? Since she has the right to sustenance from her husband’s property, she is enjoying the profits as payment of her sustenance, so her use of the property does not establish the presumption of ownership. The Gemara responds: No, it is necessary to state this halakha in the event that he designated another parcel of land for her sustenance. The mishna teaches that even if she enjoys the profits of a second field for three years, she does not establish the presumption of ownership of that field.

הָא רְאָיָה – יֵשׁ? לֵימָא לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי!

The Gemara asks: By inference, the wife has the ability to bring proof of her ownership and take possession of her husband’s field. Why is this proof valid? Let him say that he desires to expose her concealed money. If he offers to sell the field to her and she agrees, it will be discovered that she has money of which he had been unaware. His intention was never to sell the property, but to claim money to which he is entitled.

שָׁמְעַתְּ מִינַּהּ, הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְלָא אָמְרִינַן: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי?! לָא; אֵימָא: הָא רְאָיָה יֵשׁ – בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה.

Can one conclude from this mishna that in the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money? The Gemara answers: No, as one may say that the inference from the mishna that if she has proof then she has ownership rights is the halakha only with regard to a deed of gift, as, if her husband gave her the field as a gift, he cannot claim that he did so in order to expose her concealed money.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב נַחְמָן לְרַב הוּנָא: לָא הֲוָה מָר גַּבָּן בְּאוּרְתָּא בִּתְחוּמָא, דְּאָמְרִינַן מִילֵּי מְעַלְּיָיתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי מִילֵּי מְעַלְּיָיתָא אָמְרִיתוּ? הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְלָא אָמְרִינַן לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי.

The Gemara relates: Rav Naḥman said to Rav Huna: The Master was not with us in the evening in the study hall that is within the boundaries of the town, where we said a superior matter. Rav Huna said to him: What superior matter did you say? Rav Naḥman responded: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: פְּשִׁיטָא, דַּל זוּזֵי מֵהָכָא – וְתִיקְנֵי בִּשְׁטָרָא! מִי לָא תְּנַן: נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת נִקְנִין בְּכֶסֶף וּבִשְׁטָר וּבַחֲזָקָה?

Rav Huna said to him: That is obvious; remove the money from here and she will acquire the property by means of the bill of sale, as, even if she has not yet given him the money, she acquires the land by means of the bill of sale. Didn’t we learn in a mishna (Kiddushin 26a): Property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land, can be acquired by means of giving money, by means of giving a document, or by means of taking possession of it?

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: וְלָאו אִיתְּמַר עֲלַהּ, אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּשְׁטַר מַתָּנָה, אֲבָל בִּשְׁטַר מֶכֶר – לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּתֵּן לוֹ דָּמֶיהָ? וְלָאו מוֹתֵיב רַב הַמְנוּנָא: בִּשְׁטָר – כֵּיצַד? כָּתַב לוֹ עַל הַנְּיָיר אוֹ עַל הַחֶרֶס – אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין בּוֹ שָׁוֶה פְּרוּטָה: ״שָׂדִי מְכוּרָה לָךְ״, ״שָׂדִי קְנוּיָה לָךְ״ – הֲרֵי זוֹ מְכוּרָה וּנְתוּנָה?

Rav Naḥman said to him: But wasn’t it stated with regard to this that Shmuel says: They taught that the document alone suffices only if the transaction is with a deed of gift, but if the transaction is with a bill of sale, the buyer does not acquire the property until he gives him its money? Rav Huna responded: But didn’t Rav Hamnuna raise an objection to this, based on this following baraita: How is acquisition by means of giving a document performed? If he wrote it for him on paper or earthenware, then even though the paper or the earthenware is not worth even one peruta, if he writes: My field is sold to you, or: My field is acquired by you as a gift, it is thereby sold or given. This indicates that a document suffices to complete an acquisition both in the case of a sale and a gift.

וְלָאו הוּא מוֹתֵיב לַהּ וְהוּא מְפָרֵק לַהּ – בְּמוֹכֵר שָׂדֵהוּ מִפְּנֵי רָעָתָהּ?

Rav Naḥman responded: But is it not so that he, Rav Hamnuna, raises the objection and he himself resolves it? The baraita states its ruling with regard to one who sells his field due to its poor quality. The seller wants to be rid of his field due to its low value, and would like to transfer ownership of it as quickly as possible. In this case, writing a document suffices to complete the acquisition. By contrast, in standard cases it does not. Since the acquisition of a field requires monetary payment in addition to a bill of sale, Rav Naḥman’s statement, that if one sells a field to his wife the sale is valid and we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money, is a novelty.

(רַב בִּיבִי מְסַיֵּים בַּהּ מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן) וְרַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנָהּ לוֹ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לוֹ בִּלְשׁוֹן מֶכֶר? כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת כֹּחוֹ.

The Gemara notes that in interpreting this baraita, Rav Beivai would conclude in the name of Rav Naḥman, or, according to another version, Rav Ashi says: Why does a document suffice for him to acquire the land? It is because it is assumed that he wanted to give it to him as a gift. And why did he write the document for him employing the terminology of a sale? It was in order to enhance the power of the one acquiring the land, since with regard to a property guarantee, i.e., a document that states that if the property is seized by the seller’s creditor, the seller will reimburse the buyer for his loss, a bill of sale is superior to a deed of gift.

מֵיתִיבִי: לָוָה מִן הָעֶבֶד, וְשִׁחְרְרוֹ; מִן הָאִשָּׁה, וְגֵרְשָׁהּ – אֵין לָהֶן עָלָיו כְּלוּם. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּאָמְרִינַן: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דְּבָעֵי?

The Gemara raises an objection to the ruling of Rav Naḥman, that we do not say that he desires to expose her concealed money, from a baraita: If one borrowed money from his own slave and then frees him, or if one borrowed money from his wife and then divorces her, they do not have any claim on him, and he need not repay them. What is the reason for this? Is it not because we say that he desires to expose their concealed money, and his taking of the loan was a mere artifice to claim money to which he was entitled?

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם, דְּלָא נִיחָא לֵיהּ לְשַׁוּוֹיֵיהּ נַפְשֵׁיהּ ״עֶבֶד לֹוֶה לְאִישׁ מַלְוֶה״.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, because there is an additional reason to think it was an artifice, as it is uncomfortable for him to make applicable to himself the verse: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7). It is therefore reasonable to posit that his intention was not to borrow money, but to expose the concealed money that was in the possession of his slave or wife. This concern does not apply to one who sells property to his wife, and therefore the sale is valid.

שְׁלַח רַב הוּנָא בַּר אָבִין: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה,

The Gemara relates that Rav Huna bar Avin sent a ruling to those in the study hall: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it,

וּבַעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּרַם, רַבִּי אַבָּא וְרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ וְכׇל גְּדוֹלֵי הַדּוֹר אָמְרוּ: בְּמַתָּנָה בִּקֵּשׁ לִיתְּנוֹ לָהּ, וְלָמָּה כָּתַב לָהּ לְשׁוּם מֶכֶר? כְּדֵי לְיַפּוֹת אֶת כֹּחָהּ.

and as long as they remain married, the husband enjoys the profits, as he would with any usufruct property. But Rabbi Abba and Rabbi Abbahu and all of the great Sages of the generation said that the assumption is that the husband wanted to give it to her as a gift. And why did he write the deed for her employing terminology indicating that it is for the sake of a sale? It was in order to enhance her power.

מֵיתִיבִי: לָוָה מִן הָעֶבֶד וְשִׁחְרְרוֹ, מִן הָאִשָּׁה וְגֵרְשָׁהּ – אֵין לָהֶן עָלָיו כְּלוּם. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּאָמְרִי: לְגַלּוֹיֵי זוּזֵי הוּא דִּבְעָא?

The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita to the ruling that the wife acquires the property: If one borrowed from his own slave and then freed him, or if one borrowed from his wife and then divorced her, they do not have any claim on him, and he need not repay them. What is the reason for this? Is it not because we say that he desired to expose their concealed money, and his taking of the loan was merely an artifice to claim money to which he was entitled? Similarly, the assumption should be that his sale to her was merely an artifice.

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם, דְּלָא לִישַׁוֵּי אִינִישׁ ״עֶבֶד לֹוֶה לְאִישׁ מַלְוֶה״.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, because there is an additional reason to think it was an artifice, as it is uncomfortable for a person to be described by the verse: “The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7). It is therefore reasonable to posit that his intention was not to borrow money, but to expose the concealed money that was in the possession of his slave or wife. This concern does not apply to one who sells property to his wife, and therefore the sale is valid.

אָמַר רַב: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – קָנְתָה, וְהַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּמַתָּנָה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. וְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר: אֶחָד זֶה וְאֶחָד זֶה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת.

The Gemara quotes a related statement. Rav says: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has acquired it, and the husband enjoys the profits. In the case of one who gives a married woman the field as a gift, she has acquired it and the husband does not enjoy the profits, since he gave it to her completely. And Rabbi Elazar says: In both this case and that case she has acquired it, and the husband does not enjoy the profits.

עֲבַד רַב חִסְדָּא עוֹבָדָא כְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר. אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ רַבָּן עוּקְבָא וְרַבָּן נְחֶמְיָה בְּנֵי בְנָתֵיהּ דְּרַב, לְרַב חִסְדָּא: שָׁבֵיק מָר רַבְרְבֵי, וְעָבֵיד כְּזוּטְרֵי?! אֲמַר לְהוּ: וַאֲנָא נָמֵי כְּרַבְרְבֵי עֲבַדִי, דְּכִי אֲתָא רָבִין אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אֶחָד זֶה וְאֶחָד זֶה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת.

The Gemara relates: Rav Ḥisda performed an action in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, and did not allow a husband to enjoy the profits of a field he sold to his wife. Rabban Ukva and Rabban Neḥemya, the sons of Rav’s daughters, said to Rav Ḥisda: Does the Master abandon a greater Sage, i.e., Rav, the greatest Sage of his generation, and act in accordance with the opinion of a lesser Sage, i.e., Rabbi Elazar, who was Rav’s student? Rav Ḥisda said to them: But I too am acting in accordance with the opinion of a greater Sage, as when Ravin came from Eretz Yisrael, he said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: In both this case and that case she has acquired it, and the husband does not enjoy the profits. I am consequently not relying exclusively on Rabbi Elazar’s opinion, but also on that of Rabbi Yoḥanan.

אָמַר רָבָא, הִלְכְתָא: הַמּוֹכֵר שָׂדֶה לְאִשְׁתּוֹ – לֹא קָנְתָה, וְהַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. בְּמַתָּנָה – קָנְתָה, וְאֵין הַבַּעַל אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת. תַּרְתֵּי?!

Rava says that the halakha is: In the case of one who sells a field to his wife, she has not acquired it, and the husband enjoys the profits. In the case of one who gives a married woman the field as a gift, she has acquired it and the husband does not enjoy the profits. The Gemara asks with regard to the first halakha: Can these two ostensibly contradictory rulings be given? Rava’s statement that the wife has not acquired the field means that the husband still owns it, while his statement that the husband enjoys the profits, i.e., he merely enjoys the profits but does not own the field, indicates that the field itself is owned by the wife.

לָא קַשְׁיָא; כָּאן בְּמָעוֹת טְמוּנִין, כָּאן בְּמָעוֹת שֶׁאֵין טְמוּנִין – דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: מָעוֹת טְמוּנִין – לֹא קָנְתָה, מָעוֹת שֶׁאֵינָן טְמוּנִין – קָנְתָה.

The Gemara responds: This is not difficult, because Rava is referring to two different cases. Here, where he says that she has not acquired the land, he is referring to a case where her money was concealed, and the sale was an artifice to expose it; while there, where he says that she acquires the land, he is referring to a case where she had money that is not concealed. As Rav Yehuda says: If she purchased the field with concealed money, she has not acquired it; if she purchased it with money that is not concealed, she has acquired it.

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: אֵין מְקַבְּלִין פִּקְדוֹנוֹת – לֹא מִן הַנָּשִׁים, וְלֹא מִן הָעֲבָדִים, וְלֹא מִן הַתִּינוֹקוֹת. קִבֵּל מִן הָאִשָּׁה – יַחְזִיר לָאִשָּׁה, וְאִם מֵתָה – יַחְזִיר לְבַעְלָהּ. קִבֵּל מִן הָעֶבֶד – יַחְזִיר לָעֶבֶד, וְאִם מֵת – יַחְזִיר לְרַבּוֹ.

§ The Sages taught in a baraita: One may not accept deposits from women, and not from slaves, and not from children. Since it is likely that they do not own property, they might have taken the item without authorization from their husband, master, or parent, respectively. Consequently, one should not accept the deposit. If, however, one accepted a deposit from a woman, he must return it to the woman, as he cannot be certain that it is not hers. And if the woman died, he must return it to her husband, as he is her heir. If one accepted a deposit from a slave, he must return it to the slave, since it might not belong to the master. And if the slave died, he must return it to his master.

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