Search

Bava Kamma 52

Want to dedicate learning? Get started here:

English
עברית
podcast placeholder

0:00
0:00




podcast placeholder

0:00
0:00




Summary

This week’s learning is sponsored by Michelle Feiglin in loving memory of her father, Natan ben Devorah v’Shlomo Elimelech on his 8th yahrzeit and for the refuah shleima of her grandson, Neriya Yosef Hoshea ben Avital. “My father was liberated from Buchenwald and rebuilt his life in Melbourne, Australia. He inspired my love of learning Torah and every lunchtime in the middle of his working day could be found in front of his Gemara. He had great success in business, but he always said that his biggest success was his family.” 
This week’s learning is sponsored for the refuah shleima of Shelly bat Sara Nina.
Land can be acquired in three ways, by money, a document or chazaka (using the land in a way that shows ownership). When can a pit or a house, which are both considered like land) be acquired by passing over an item? Does it depend on what item? How can this be effective? A flock of animals can also be acquired by passing a particular item – what item and how does the kinyan work? If two people own a cistern and the first person covered it and the second one passed by and found it uncovered but didn’t cover it, the second owner is responsible. At what point would the first owner revert to being responsible for it together with the second owner? Would it be only if the first person sees it or hears it is uncovered or do they also get extra time to hire people to close it once the first owner hears about it? The Mishna explains that if the owner covers it and the animal falls in, the owner is not responsible. If it was covered, how can this be? Rabbi Yitzchak says that the cover must have rotted. Two different versions of a question are brought and the Gemara attempts to answer the question from our Mishna but is unsuccessful. The first version of the question is about one who covered a cistern with a cover that could withstand oxen but not camels. If a camel weakened it and then the ox fell in, is the owner held responsible? The second version is that the question was about a cover that could withstand both oxen but not camels, and camels commonly pass by. However, the cover was not weakened by camels but rotted. Is the law that since the owner was negligent as the cover could not withstand camels, the owner is considered negligent regarding rotting, even though it is highly unlikely that the cover would rot? Or is the law that since rotting was unexpected, the owner is exempt? The second version of the question is ultimately answered from a braita.

Today’s daily daf tools:

Bava Kamma 52

כֵּיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַפְתֵּחַ – קָנָה.

once he has conveyed the key to him, he has acquired it.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי בְּכַסְפָּא – לִיקְנֵי בְּכַסְפָּא! אִי בַּחֲזָקָה – לִיקְנֵי בַּחֲזָקָה! לְעוֹלָם בַּחֲזָקָה, וּבָעֵי לְמֵימַר לֵיהּ ״לֵךְ חֲזֵק וּקְנֵי״; וְכֵיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַפְתֵּחַ, כְּמַאן דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ ״לֵךְ חֲזֵק וּקְנֵי״ דָּמֵי.

Here too, the Gemara asks: What are the circumstances involving this sale? If it was a transaction by payment of money, then let him acquire it by paying money. If it was by taking possession of it, let him acquire it by taking possession. What is the significance of transferring the key? The Gemara answers: Actually, the transaction occurred by taking possession, and in that case, the seller usually must say to him: Go, take possession, and thereby acquire it for yourself. And in this case, once he conveys the key to him, he is considered like one who says to him: Go, take possession, and thereby acquire it.

אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יַנַּאי: הַמּוֹכֵר עֵדֶר לַחֲבֵירוֹ, כֵּיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַשְׁכּוּכִית – קָנָה.

Similarly, Reish Lakish says in the name of Rabbi Yannai: With regard to one who sells a flock of sheep to another, once he conveys the mashkukhit to the buyer, he has acquired the flock.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי בִּמְשִׁיכָה – לִיקְנֵי בִּמְשִׁיכָה! אִי בִּמְסִירָה – לִיקְנֵי בִּמְסִירָה! לְעוֹלָם בִּמְשִׁיכָה, וּבָעֵי לְמֵימַר לֵיהּ: ״לֵךְ מְשׁוֹךְ וּקְנֵי״, וְכֵיוָן דְּמָסַר לוֹ מַשְׁכּוּכִית – כְּמַאן דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״לֵךְ מְשׁוֹךְ וּקְנֵי״ דָּמֵי.

The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this case? If the transaction occurred by pulling the flock into his possession, then let the buyer acquire it by pulling. If it was by conveying it, let the buyer acquire it by the seller conveying it. The Gemara answers: Actually, it was a transaction by pulling, and in that case, the seller usually must say to him: Go, pull it and acquire it for yourself. And in this case, once he conveys the mashkukhit to him, he is like one who says to him: Go, pull it and acquire it.

מַאי מַשְׁכּוּכִית? הָכָא תַּרְגִּמוּ: קַרְקַשְׁתָּא. רַבִּי יַעֲקֹב אוֹמֵר: עִיזָּא דְּאָזְלָא בְּרֵישׁ עֶדְרָא – כְּדִדְרַשׁ הַהוּא גָּלִילָאָה עֲלֵיהּ דְּרַב חִסְדָּא: כַּד רָגֵיז רָעֲיָא עַל עָנָא, עָבֵיד לְנַגָּדָא סַמְוָתָא.

The Gemara asks: What is this mashkukhit? Here, in Babylonia, they translate it as a bell [karkashta] that the shepherd rings and whose sound the flock follows. Rabbi Ya’akov says: It is referring to the goat that goes at the front of the flock that they follow. The Gemara notes: This explanation of Rabbi Ya’akov is similar to that which a certain Galilean taught in the presence of Rav Ḥisda concerning this goat: When a shepherd is angry with his flock, he renders the goat leading [lenaggada] them, i.e., the mashkukhit, blind. Similarly, when God is angry with the Jewish people, he appoints unsuitable leaders for them.

מַתְנִי׳ כִּסָּהוּ הָרִאשׁוֹן, וּבָא הַשֵּׁנִי וּמְצָאוֹ מְגוּלֶּה, וְלֹא כִּסָּהוּ – הַשֵּׁנִי חַיָּיב. כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב.

MISHNA: The mishna lists several halakhot that pertain to damage classified as Pit: In the case of a pit that the first person who passed by covered after using it, and then the second came to use it and found it uncovered after the cover fell off or was damaged, and he did not cover it, the second one is liable for damage caused by the pit. If the owner covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. If he did not cover the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is liable.

נָפַל לְפָנָיו מִקּוֹל הַכְּרִיָּיה – חַיָּיב, לְאַחֲרָיו מִקּוֹל הַכְּרִיָּיה – פָּטוּר.

If a man was digging or widening a pit, and an ox passing by fell forward into it in fright due to the sound of the digging, he is liable. If it fell backward into the pit due to the sound of the digging, he is exempt.

נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר וְכֵלָיו – וְנִשְׁתַּבְּרוּ, חֲמוֹר וְכֵלָיו – וְנִתְקָרְעוּ; חַיָּיב עַל הַבְּהֵמָה, וּפָטוּר עַל הַכֵּלִים.

If an ox and its accoutrements, i.e., the vessels it was carrying, fell into the pit and the vessels were broken, or if a donkey and its accoutrements fell in and the accoutrements were torn, the owner of the pit is liable for damage to the animal caused by the pit, but he is exempt from liability for damage caused to the vessels, by Torah edict.

נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר חֵרֵשׁ שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן – חַיָּיב. בֵּן אוֹ בַּת, עֶבֶד אוֹ אָמָה – פָּטוּר.

If an ox that was impaired by being deaf, or an ox that was an imbecile, or an ox that was very young fell into the pit, he is liable. If a boy or a girl, a Canaanite slave or a Canaanite maidservant fell in, he is exempt, since there is a Torah edict that the digger of a pit is liable only for damage caused to an animal.

גְּמָ׳ וְרִאשׁוֹן עַד אֵימַת מִיפְּטַר? אָמַר רַב: בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיֵּדַע. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיּוֹדִיעוּהוּ. וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: בִּכְדִי שֶׁיּוֹדִיעוּהוּ, וְיִשְׂכּוֹר פּוֹעֲלִים, וְיִכְרוֹת אֲרָזִים וִיכַסֶּנּוּ.

GEMARA: With regard to the first case in the mishna, the Gemara asks: And until when is the first person exempt if the pit is later uncovered? Rav says: He is exempt from liability for the time necessary for him to become aware that it became uncovered. Once this time has passed, he bears responsibility. And Shmuel says: He is exempt for the time necessary for others to realize that the pit is uncovered and inform him. And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: He is exempt for the time necessary for others to inform him that the cover has fallen down and for him to hire workers and cut cedar trees to make a suitable cover and cover it. After this period of time has passed, the first bears responsibility.

כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. כֵּיוָן דְּכִסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, הֵיכִי נְפַל? אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ.

§ The mishna teaches: If he covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell inside and died, he is exempt. The Gemara asks: Since he covered the pit appropriately, how did it fall in? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: This is a case where the cover rotted from the inside, and he could not have known that the cover was damaged. Therefore, he is not responsible for damage caused as a result.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: כִּסָּהוּ כִּסּוּי שֶׁיָּכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד לִפְנֵי שְׁווֹרִים, וְאֵין יָכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי גְמַלִּים; וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וְאָתוּ שְׁווֹרִים וְנָפְלִי בֵּיהּ – מַאי? אָמְרִי: הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא!

A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If he covered it with a cover that is able to withstand the weight of oxen but cannot withstand the weight of camels, which are heavier, and camels came and weakened it, and subsequently oxen came and broke the weakened cover and fell into the pit, what is the halakha? The Sages said in response: What are the circumstances? If camels are commonly found there, he is negligent, since he should have constructed the cover suitably for camels as well. And if camels are not commonly found there, then he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control if by chance they did come and weaken the cover.

לָא צְרִיכָא, דַּאֲתוֹ לִפְרָקִים; מִי אָמְרִינַן כֵּיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ; אוֹ דִלְמָא, כֵּיוָן דְּהַשְׁתָּא מִיהַת לֵיכָּא – אָנוּס הוּא?

The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary in a case where camels come occasionally, in which case the question effectively becomes: Do we say that since they come occasionally, he is considered negligent, since he should have anticipated their coming? Or perhaps since now, in any event, there are no camels, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

תָּא שְׁמַע: כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים – הֵיכִי נְפוּל? אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים,

Come and hear a possible proof from the mishna: If he covered the pit appropriately, and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. Now what are the circumstances? If we say that he covered it appropriately for oxen and appropriately for camels, then how did they fall in? Rather, is it not the case that he covered it with a covering that was appropriate for oxen

וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? וְאִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, אַמַּאי פָּטוּר? פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פְּשִׁיטָא, אָנוּס הוּא! אֶלָּא לָאו דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים, וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ – וְקָתָנֵי פָּטוּר? אַלְמָא, כֵּיוָן דְּהַשְׁתָּא לֵיכָּא – אָנוּס הוּא!

but not appropriate for camels? In this case, the following must be clarified: If it is a location where camels are commonly found, why is he exempt? He is negligent. And if camels are not commonly found there, it is obvious that he is exempt, since he is clearly a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Rather, is it not the case that this is a location where camels come occasionally, and camels came and weakened the covering, after which oxen came and fell into it? And with regard to this case, it teaches that he is exempt. Apparently, since now, in any event, the camels are not there, he is considered a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

אָמְרִי: לָא, לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים; וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – הֵיכִי נְפוּל? אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ.

They said in reply: No; actually, the scenario is where he covered it appropriately for oxen and appropriately for camels, and as for what was difficult for you to explain: How did they fall? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: It is where the cover rotted from the inside, and so nothing can be derived from here with regard to the question posed above with regard to the camels.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא לֹא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, פְּשִׁיטָא – צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר דְּחַיָּיב?! אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא!

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a different proof from the mishna: If he did not cover the pit appropriately, and an ox or a donkey fell in and died, he is liable. Now, what are the circumstances? If we say that he did not cover it appropriately for oxen and he did not cover it appropriately for camels, and they fell in, it is obvious. Does it need to be said that he is liable in that case? Rather, is it not referring to a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels? And if this is the case, the following point must be clarified: What are the circumstances? If camels are commonly found there, he is clearly negligent, but if camels are not commonly found there, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

אֶלָּא לָאו דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים, וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ – וְקָתָנֵי חַיָּיב? אַלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ!

Rather, is it not referring to a case where camels come occasionally, and camels came and weakened it, and subsequently oxen came and fell into it? And in this case, it teaches that he is liable. Apparently, since they do come occasionally, he is considered negligent, since he should have anticipated that they would come.

לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! אַיְּידֵי דִּנְסֵיב רֵישָׁא ״כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״, נְסֵיב סֵיפָא נָמֵי ״לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״.

The Gemara responds: Actually, it is possible that he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels, and camels are commonly found there. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: In such a case he is considered negligent and should be liable, rendering the ruling in the mishna superfluous, one may answer that since the tanna needs to cite the first clause with regard to the halakha if he covered it appropriately, he cites the latter clause as well, with regard to the halakha that if he did not cover it appropriately, he is liable.

אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: הָא נָמֵי וַדַּאי לָא אִיבַּעְיָא לַן; דְּכֵיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ;

There are those who say that the discussion is as follows: With regard to this also we certainly did not raise the dilemma, because since they occasionally come, he is considered negligent, as he should have anticipated this possibility.

כִּי אִיבְּעִי לַן – הָכִי הוּא דְּאִיבַּעְיָא לַן: כִּסָּהוּ כִּסּוּי שֶׁיָּכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי שְׁווֹרִים וְאֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי גְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן: מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ אֵצֶל גְּמַלִּים, הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ נָמֵי לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה; אוֹ דִלְמָא לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ?

When we raised the dilemma, this is the dilemma that we raised: He covered it with a cover that is able to withstand the presence of oxen but is unable to withstand the presence of camels, and camels are commonly found in that location. What actually transpired was that the cover rotted from the inside. In this case, what is the halakha? Do we say: Since he was negligent concerning camels, he is considered negligent also concerning the rotting? Or perhaps we do not say that since he was negligent concerning camels he is considered negligent concerning rotting, and since in practice he is not to blame for the incident, he is not held liable?

תָּא שְׁמַע: כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. וְאִתְּמַר עֲלַהּ, אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – פְּשִׁיטָא דְּפָטוּר, מַאי הֲוָה לֵיהּ לְמֶעְבַּד?

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from the mishna: If he covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. And it was stated with regard to this that Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: This halakha applies where the cover rotted from the inside. The Gemara clarifies: What are the circumstances? If we say that it is referring to where he covered it in a manner appropriate for oxen and appropriate for camels and it rotted from the inside, isn’t it obvious that he is exempt? Being unaware of this, what should he have done?

אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – וְקָתָנֵי פָּטוּר? אַלְמָא לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן גְּמַלִּים הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה!

Rather, is it not referring to a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels, and camels are commonly found in that location? And the strength of the cover vis-à-vis oxen and camels is not relevant to the halakha here because the cover rotted from the inside. And the mishna teaches that he is exempt. Apparently, we do not say that since he is considered negligent concerning camels, he is also considered negligent with regard to the rotting.

לָא; לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים וּכְרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ. וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – כִּי הִתְלִיעַ מַאי הֲוָה לֵיהּ לְמֶעְבַּד? מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמֵיזַל וּמִנְקַשׁ עֲלֵיהּ; קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara rejects this: No; actually, the case is where the cover was appropriate for camels and appropriate for oxen, and it rotted from the inside. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: When it rotted from the inside, what should he have done, and shouldn’t he be exempt? There is, nevertheless, a novelty in this ruling: It is necessary lest you say that he should have gone and knocked on the covering to ensure it was not hollow on the inside. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that he is not required to check to this extent.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא לֹא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים – צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר דְּחַיָּיב?

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from the continuation of the mishna: If he did not cover the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is liable. The Gemara clarifies: What are the circumstances? If we say that it is referring to where he did not cover it appropriately for oxen and did not cover it appropriately for camels, does it need to be said that he is liable?

אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? וְאִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא! אֶלָּא לָאו דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – וְקָתָנֵי חַיָּיב? אַלְמָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן גְּמַלִּים – הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה!

Rather, is it not a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels? In this case, the following point needs clarification: If camels are commonly found there, he is negligent and should be liable. And if camels are not commonly found there, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Rather, is it not a case where camels are commonly found there, and it rotted from the inside, and the mishna teaches that he is liable? Apparently, we do say that since he is negligent concerning the camels, he is considered negligent concerning the rotting, and he is therefore liable.

אָמְרִי: לָא; לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ. וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – פְּשִׁיטָא, פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! אַיְּידֵי דִּנְסֵיב רֵישָׁא ״כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״, נְסֵיב סֵיפָא נָמֵי ״לֹא כִּסָּהוּ״.

They said in response: No; actually it is referring to where he covered the pit appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels; and camels are commonly found there, and camels came and weakened the cover. And, subsequently, oxen came and fell in. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: It is obvious that he is liable, since he is clearly negligent, so what novelty is being introduced? The answer is that since he needs to cite the first clause of the mishna, i.e., where he covered the pit appropriately, he therefore cites the latter clause as well, i.e., where he did not cover it.

תָּא שְׁמַע: נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר חֵרֵשׁ, שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן, סוֹמֵא וּמְהַלֵּךְ בַּלַּיְלָה – חַיָּיב. פִּקֵּחַ וּמְהַלֵּךְ בַּיּוֹם – פָּטוּר. וְאַמַּאי? נֵימָא מִדְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן חֵרֵשׁ, הָוֵי נָמֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן פִּקֵּחַ! אֶלָּא לָאו שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ – לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ? שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a different proof from a baraita: With regard to an ox that was impaired by being deaf, or an ox that was an imbecile, or an ox that was very young, or a blind ox, or an ox that is walking at night and unable to see, if it fell into the pit, he is liable. If the ox was of standard intelligence for its species and was walking in the day, the owner of the pit is exempt, since the ox should have been aware of the pit. The Gemara asks: But why is he exempt? Let us say that since he is considered negligent concerning a deaf ox, he is also negligent concerning an ox of standard intelligence. Rather, is it not correct to conclude the following principle from here: We do not say that since he is negligent with regard to one matter, it is also considered negligence with regard to another matter, but he is held liable only for the damage actually attributable to his negligence? The Gemara affirms: Yes, conclude from the mishna that this is so.

נָפַל לְפָנָיו כּוּ׳. אָמַר רַב: ״לְפָנָיו״ – לְפָנָיו מַמָּשׁ, ״לְאַחֲרָיו״ – אַחֲרָיו מַמָּשׁ.

§ The mishna teaches: If a man was digging or widening a pit, and an ox passing by fell forward into it in fright due to the sound of the digging, he is liable. If it fell backward into the pit due to the sound of the digging, he is exempt. Rav says: The term forward means literally forward, and the term backward means literally backward,

Today’s daily daf tools:

Delve Deeper

Broaden your understanding of the topics on this daf with classes and podcasts from top women Talmud scholars.

For the Beyond the Daf shiurim offered in Hebrew, see here.

New to Talmud?

Check out our resources designed to help you navigate a page of Talmud – and study at the pace, level and style that fits you. 

The Hadran Women’s Tapestry

Meet the diverse women learning Gemara at Hadran and hear their stories. 

My Daf journey began in August 2012 after participating in the Siyum Hashas where I was blessed as an “enabler” of others.  Galvanized into my own learning I recited the Hadran on Shas in January 2020 with Rabbanit Michelle. That Siyum was a highlight in my life.  Now, on round two, Daf has become my spiritual anchor to which I attribute manifold blessings.

Rina Goldberg
Rina Goldberg

Englewood NJ, United States

Shortly after the death of my father, David Malik z”l, I made the commitment to Daf Yomi. While riding to Ben Gurion airport in January, Siyum HaShas was playing on the radio; that was the nudge I needed to get started. The “everyday-ness” of the Daf has been a meaningful spiritual practice, especial after COVID began & I was temporarily unable to say Kaddish at daily in-person minyanim.

Lisa S. Malik
Lisa S. Malik

Wynnewood, United States

A beautiful world of Talmudic sages now fill my daily life with discussion and debate.
bringing alive our traditions and texts that has brought new meaning to my life.
I am a מגילת אסתר reader for women . the words in the Mishna of מסכת megillah 17a
הקורא את המגילה למפרע לא יצא were powerful to me.
I hope to have the zchut to complete the cycle for my 70th birthday.

Sheila Hauser
Sheila Hauser

Jerusalem, Israel

I started learning at the beginning of this Daf Yomi cycle because I heard a lot about the previous cycle coming to an end and thought it would be a good thing to start doing. My husband had already bought several of the Koren Talmud Bavli books and they were just sitting on the shelf, not being used, so here was an opportunity to start using them and find out exactly what was in them. Loving it!

Caroline Levison
Caroline Levison

Borehamwood, United Kingdom

It happened without intent (so am I yotzei?!) – I watched the women’s siyum live and was so moved by it that the next morning, I tuned in to Rabbanit Michelle’s shiur, and here I am, still learning every day, over 2 years later. Some days it all goes over my head, but others I grasp onto an idea or a story, and I ‘get it’ and that’s the best feeling in the world. So proud to be a Hadran learner.

Jeanne Yael Klempner
Jeanne Yael Klempner

Zichron Yaakov, Israel

I started learning Talmud with R’ Haramati in Yeshivah of Flatbush. But after a respite of 60 years, Rabbanit Michelle lit my fire – after attending the last three world siyumim in Miami Beach, Meadowlands and Boca Raton, and now that I’m retired, I decided – “I can do this!” It has been an incredible journey so far, and I look forward to learning Daf everyday – Mazal Tov to everyone!

Roslyn Jaffe
Roslyn Jaffe

Florida, United States

The start of my journey is not so exceptional. I was between jobs and wanted to be sure to get out every day (this was before corona). Well, I was hooked after about a month and from then on only looked for work-from-home jobs so I could continue learning the Daf. Daf has been a constant in my life, though hurricanes, death, illness/injury, weddings. My new friends are Rav, Shmuel, Ruth, Joanna.
Judi Felber
Judi Felber

Raanana, Israel

I’ve been studying Talmud since the ’90s, and decided to take on Daf Yomi two years ago. I wanted to attempt the challenge of a day-to-day, very Jewish activity. Some days are so interesting and some days are so boring. But I’m still here.
Wendy Rozov
Wendy Rozov

Phoenix, AZ, United States

I had no formal learning in Talmud until I began my studies in the Joint Program where in 1976 I was one of the few, if not the only, woman talmud major. It was superior training for law school and enabled me to approach my legal studies with a foundation . In 2018, I began daf yomi listening to Rabbanit MIchelle’s pod cast and my daily talmud studies are one of the highlights of my life.

Krivosha_Terri_Bio
Terri Krivosha

Minneapolis, United States

תמיד רציתי. למדתי גמרא בבית ספר בטורונטו קנדה. עליתי ארצה ולמדתי שזה לא מקובל. הופתעתי.
יצאתי לגימלאות לפני שנתיים וזה מאפשר את המחוייבות לדף יומי.
עבורי ההתמדה בלימוד מעגן אותי בקשר שלי ליהדות. אני תמיד מחפשת ותמיד. מוצאת מקור לקשר. ללימוד חדש ומחדש. קשר עם נשים לומדות מעמיק את החוויה ומשמעותית מאוד.

Vitti Kones
Vitti Kones

מיתר, ישראל

While vacationing in San Diego, Rabbi Leah Herz asked if I’d be interested in being in hevruta with her to learn Daf Yomi through Hadran. Why not? I had loved learning Gemara in college in 1971 but hadn’t returned. With the onset of covid, Daf Yomi and Rabbanit Michelle centered me each day. Thank-you for helping me grow and enter this amazing world of learning.
Meryll Page
Meryll Page

Minneapolis, MN, United States

I was exposed to Talmud in high school, but I was truly inspired after my daughter and I decided to attend the Women’s Siyum Shas in 2020. We knew that this was a historic moment. We were blown away, overcome with emotion at the euphoria of the revolution. Right then, I knew I would continue. My commitment deepened with the every-morning Virtual Beit Midrash on Zoom with R. Michelle.

Adina Hagege
Adina Hagege

Zichron Yaakov, Israel

I started learning at the beginning of this Daf Yomi cycle because I heard a lot about the previous cycle coming to an end and thought it would be a good thing to start doing. My husband had already bought several of the Koren Talmud Bavli books and they were just sitting on the shelf, not being used, so here was an opportunity to start using them and find out exactly what was in them. Loving it!

Caroline Levison
Caroline Levison

Borehamwood, United Kingdom

I started learning at the beginning of this cycle more than 2 years ago, and I have not missed a day or a daf. It’s been challenging and enlightening and even mind-numbing at times, but the learning and the shared experience have all been worth it. If you are open to it, there’s no telling what might come into your life.

Patti Evans
Patti Evans

Phoenix, Arizona, United States

I started learning with rabbis. I needed to know more than the stories. My first teacher to show me “the way of the Talmud” as well as the stories was Samara Schwartz.
Michelle Farber started the new cycle 2 yrs ago and I jumped on for the ride.
I do not look back.

Jenifer Nech
Jenifer Nech

Houston, United States

תמיד רציתי. למדתי גמרא בבית ספר בטורונטו קנדה. עליתי ארצה ולמדתי שזה לא מקובל. הופתעתי.
יצאתי לגימלאות לפני שנתיים וזה מאפשר את המחוייבות לדף יומי.
עבורי ההתמדה בלימוד מעגן אותי בקשר שלי ליהדות. אני תמיד מחפשת ותמיד. מוצאת מקור לקשר. ללימוד חדש ומחדש. קשר עם נשים לומדות מעמיק את החוויה ומשמעותית מאוד.

Vitti Kones
Vitti Kones

מיתר, ישראל

I started to listen to Michelle’s podcasts four years ago. The minute I started I was hooked. I’m so excited to learn the entire Talmud, and think I will continue always. I chose the quote “while a woman is engaged in conversation she also holds the spindle”. (Megillah 14b). It reminds me of all of the amazing women I learn with every day who multi-task, think ahead and accomplish so much.

Julie Mendelsohn
Julie Mendelsohn

Zichron Yakov, Israel

I began Daf Yomi with the last cycle. I was inspired by the Hadran Siyum in Yerushalayim to continue with this cycle. I have learned Daf Yomi with Rabanit Michelle in over 25 countries on 6 continents ( missing Australia)

Barbara-Goldschlag
Barbara Goldschlag

Silver Spring, MD, United States

Since I started in January of 2020, Daf Yomi has changed my life. It connects me to Jews all over the world, especially learned women. It makes cooking, gardening, and folding laundry into acts of Torah study. Daf Yomi enables me to participate in a conversation with and about our heritage that has been going on for more than 2000 years.

Shira Eliaser
Shira Eliaser

Skokie, IL, United States

I had never heard of Daf Yomi and after reading the book, The Weight of Ink, I explored more about it. I discovered that it was only 6 months before a whole new cycle started and I was determined to give it a try. I tried to get a friend to join me on the journey but after the first few weeks they all dropped it. I haven’t missed a day of reading and of listening to the podcast.

Anne Rubin
Anne Rubin

Elkins Park, United States

Bava Kamma 52

כֵּיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַפְתֵּחַ – קָנָה.

once he has conveyed the key to him, he has acquired it.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי בְּכַסְפָּא – לִיקְנֵי בְּכַסְפָּא! אִי בַּחֲזָקָה – לִיקְנֵי בַּחֲזָקָה! לְעוֹלָם בַּחֲזָקָה, וּבָעֵי לְמֵימַר לֵיהּ ״לֵךְ חֲזֵק וּקְנֵי״; וְכֵיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַפְתֵּחַ, כְּמַאן דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ ״לֵךְ חֲזֵק וּקְנֵי״ דָּמֵי.

Here too, the Gemara asks: What are the circumstances involving this sale? If it was a transaction by payment of money, then let him acquire it by paying money. If it was by taking possession of it, let him acquire it by taking possession. What is the significance of transferring the key? The Gemara answers: Actually, the transaction occurred by taking possession, and in that case, the seller usually must say to him: Go, take possession, and thereby acquire it for yourself. And in this case, once he conveys the key to him, he is considered like one who says to him: Go, take possession, and thereby acquire it.

אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יַנַּאי: הַמּוֹכֵר עֵדֶר לַחֲבֵירוֹ, כֵּיוָן שֶׁמָּסַר לוֹ מַשְׁכּוּכִית – קָנָה.

Similarly, Reish Lakish says in the name of Rabbi Yannai: With regard to one who sells a flock of sheep to another, once he conveys the mashkukhit to the buyer, he has acquired the flock.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי בִּמְשִׁיכָה – לִיקְנֵי בִּמְשִׁיכָה! אִי בִּמְסִירָה – לִיקְנֵי בִּמְסִירָה! לְעוֹלָם בִּמְשִׁיכָה, וּבָעֵי לְמֵימַר לֵיהּ: ״לֵךְ מְשׁוֹךְ וּקְנֵי״, וְכֵיוָן דְּמָסַר לוֹ מַשְׁכּוּכִית – כְּמַאן דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״לֵךְ מְשׁוֹךְ וּקְנֵי״ דָּמֵי.

The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this case? If the transaction occurred by pulling the flock into his possession, then let the buyer acquire it by pulling. If it was by conveying it, let the buyer acquire it by the seller conveying it. The Gemara answers: Actually, it was a transaction by pulling, and in that case, the seller usually must say to him: Go, pull it and acquire it for yourself. And in this case, once he conveys the mashkukhit to him, he is like one who says to him: Go, pull it and acquire it.

מַאי מַשְׁכּוּכִית? הָכָא תַּרְגִּמוּ: קַרְקַשְׁתָּא. רַבִּי יַעֲקֹב אוֹמֵר: עִיזָּא דְּאָזְלָא בְּרֵישׁ עֶדְרָא – כְּדִדְרַשׁ הַהוּא גָּלִילָאָה עֲלֵיהּ דְּרַב חִסְדָּא: כַּד רָגֵיז רָעֲיָא עַל עָנָא, עָבֵיד לְנַגָּדָא סַמְוָתָא.

The Gemara asks: What is this mashkukhit? Here, in Babylonia, they translate it as a bell [karkashta] that the shepherd rings and whose sound the flock follows. Rabbi Ya’akov says: It is referring to the goat that goes at the front of the flock that they follow. The Gemara notes: This explanation of Rabbi Ya’akov is similar to that which a certain Galilean taught in the presence of Rav Ḥisda concerning this goat: When a shepherd is angry with his flock, he renders the goat leading [lenaggada] them, i.e., the mashkukhit, blind. Similarly, when God is angry with the Jewish people, he appoints unsuitable leaders for them.

מַתְנִי׳ כִּסָּהוּ הָרִאשׁוֹן, וּבָא הַשֵּׁנִי וּמְצָאוֹ מְגוּלֶּה, וְלֹא כִּסָּהוּ – הַשֵּׁנִי חַיָּיב. כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב.

MISHNA: The mishna lists several halakhot that pertain to damage classified as Pit: In the case of a pit that the first person who passed by covered after using it, and then the second came to use it and found it uncovered after the cover fell off or was damaged, and he did not cover it, the second one is liable for damage caused by the pit. If the owner covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. If he did not cover the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is liable.

נָפַל לְפָנָיו מִקּוֹל הַכְּרִיָּיה – חַיָּיב, לְאַחֲרָיו מִקּוֹל הַכְּרִיָּיה – פָּטוּר.

If a man was digging or widening a pit, and an ox passing by fell forward into it in fright due to the sound of the digging, he is liable. If it fell backward into the pit due to the sound of the digging, he is exempt.

נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר וְכֵלָיו – וְנִשְׁתַּבְּרוּ, חֲמוֹר וְכֵלָיו – וְנִתְקָרְעוּ; חַיָּיב עַל הַבְּהֵמָה, וּפָטוּר עַל הַכֵּלִים.

If an ox and its accoutrements, i.e., the vessels it was carrying, fell into the pit and the vessels were broken, or if a donkey and its accoutrements fell in and the accoutrements were torn, the owner of the pit is liable for damage to the animal caused by the pit, but he is exempt from liability for damage caused to the vessels, by Torah edict.

נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר חֵרֵשׁ שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן – חַיָּיב. בֵּן אוֹ בַּת, עֶבֶד אוֹ אָמָה – פָּטוּר.

If an ox that was impaired by being deaf, or an ox that was an imbecile, or an ox that was very young fell into the pit, he is liable. If a boy or a girl, a Canaanite slave or a Canaanite maidservant fell in, he is exempt, since there is a Torah edict that the digger of a pit is liable only for damage caused to an animal.

גְּמָ׳ וְרִאשׁוֹן עַד אֵימַת מִיפְּטַר? אָמַר רַב: בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיֵּדַע. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיּוֹדִיעוּהוּ. וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: בִּכְדִי שֶׁיּוֹדִיעוּהוּ, וְיִשְׂכּוֹר פּוֹעֲלִים, וְיִכְרוֹת אֲרָזִים וִיכַסֶּנּוּ.

GEMARA: With regard to the first case in the mishna, the Gemara asks: And until when is the first person exempt if the pit is later uncovered? Rav says: He is exempt from liability for the time necessary for him to become aware that it became uncovered. Once this time has passed, he bears responsibility. And Shmuel says: He is exempt for the time necessary for others to realize that the pit is uncovered and inform him. And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: He is exempt for the time necessary for others to inform him that the cover has fallen down and for him to hire workers and cut cedar trees to make a suitable cover and cover it. After this period of time has passed, the first bears responsibility.

כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. כֵּיוָן דְּכִסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, הֵיכִי נְפַל? אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ.

§ The mishna teaches: If he covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell inside and died, he is exempt. The Gemara asks: Since he covered the pit appropriately, how did it fall in? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: This is a case where the cover rotted from the inside, and he could not have known that the cover was damaged. Therefore, he is not responsible for damage caused as a result.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: כִּסָּהוּ כִּסּוּי שֶׁיָּכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד לִפְנֵי שְׁווֹרִים, וְאֵין יָכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי גְמַלִּים; וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וְאָתוּ שְׁווֹרִים וְנָפְלִי בֵּיהּ – מַאי? אָמְרִי: הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא!

A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If he covered it with a cover that is able to withstand the weight of oxen but cannot withstand the weight of camels, which are heavier, and camels came and weakened it, and subsequently oxen came and broke the weakened cover and fell into the pit, what is the halakha? The Sages said in response: What are the circumstances? If camels are commonly found there, he is negligent, since he should have constructed the cover suitably for camels as well. And if camels are not commonly found there, then he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control if by chance they did come and weaken the cover.

לָא צְרִיכָא, דַּאֲתוֹ לִפְרָקִים; מִי אָמְרִינַן כֵּיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ; אוֹ דִלְמָא, כֵּיוָן דְּהַשְׁתָּא מִיהַת לֵיכָּא – אָנוּס הוּא?

The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary in a case where camels come occasionally, in which case the question effectively becomes: Do we say that since they come occasionally, he is considered negligent, since he should have anticipated their coming? Or perhaps since now, in any event, there are no camels, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

תָּא שְׁמַע: כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים – הֵיכִי נְפוּל? אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים,

Come and hear a possible proof from the mishna: If he covered the pit appropriately, and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. Now what are the circumstances? If we say that he covered it appropriately for oxen and appropriately for camels, then how did they fall in? Rather, is it not the case that he covered it with a covering that was appropriate for oxen

וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? וְאִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, אַמַּאי פָּטוּר? פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פְּשִׁיטָא, אָנוּס הוּא! אֶלָּא לָאו דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים, וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ – וְקָתָנֵי פָּטוּר? אַלְמָא, כֵּיוָן דְּהַשְׁתָּא לֵיכָּא – אָנוּס הוּא!

but not appropriate for camels? In this case, the following must be clarified: If it is a location where camels are commonly found, why is he exempt? He is negligent. And if camels are not commonly found there, it is obvious that he is exempt, since he is clearly a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Rather, is it not the case that this is a location where camels come occasionally, and camels came and weakened the covering, after which oxen came and fell into it? And with regard to this case, it teaches that he is exempt. Apparently, since now, in any event, the camels are not there, he is considered a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

אָמְרִי: לָא, לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים; וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – הֵיכִי נְפוּל? אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ.

They said in reply: No; actually, the scenario is where he covered it appropriately for oxen and appropriately for camels, and as for what was difficult for you to explain: How did they fall? Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: It is where the cover rotted from the inside, and so nothing can be derived from here with regard to the question posed above with regard to the camels.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא לֹא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, פְּשִׁיטָא – צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר דְּחַיָּיב?! אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא!

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a different proof from the mishna: If he did not cover the pit appropriately, and an ox or a donkey fell in and died, he is liable. Now, what are the circumstances? If we say that he did not cover it appropriately for oxen and he did not cover it appropriately for camels, and they fell in, it is obvious. Does it need to be said that he is liable in that case? Rather, is it not referring to a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels? And if this is the case, the following point must be clarified: What are the circumstances? If camels are commonly found there, he is clearly negligent, but if camels are not commonly found there, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control.

אֶלָּא לָאו דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים, וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ – וְקָתָנֵי חַיָּיב? אַלְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ!

Rather, is it not referring to a case where camels come occasionally, and camels came and weakened it, and subsequently oxen came and fell into it? And in this case, it teaches that he is liable. Apparently, since they do come occasionally, he is considered negligent, since he should have anticipated that they would come.

לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! אַיְּידֵי דִּנְסֵיב רֵישָׁא ״כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״, נְסֵיב סֵיפָא נָמֵי ״לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״.

The Gemara responds: Actually, it is possible that he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels, and camels are commonly found there. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: In such a case he is considered negligent and should be liable, rendering the ruling in the mishna superfluous, one may answer that since the tanna needs to cite the first clause with regard to the halakha if he covered it appropriately, he cites the latter clause as well, with regard to the halakha that if he did not cover it appropriately, he is liable.

אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: הָא נָמֵי וַדַּאי לָא אִיבַּעְיָא לַן; דְּכֵיוָן דְּאָתַיִין לִפְרָקִים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ אַסּוֹקֵי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ;

There are those who say that the discussion is as follows: With regard to this also we certainly did not raise the dilemma, because since they occasionally come, he is considered negligent, as he should have anticipated this possibility.

כִּי אִיבְּעִי לַן – הָכִי הוּא דְּאִיבַּעְיָא לַן: כִּסָּהוּ כִּסּוּי שֶׁיָּכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי שְׁווֹרִים וְאֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לַעֲמוֹד בִּפְנֵי גְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – מַהוּ? מִי אָמְרִינַן: מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ אֵצֶל גְּמַלִּים, הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ נָמֵי לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה; אוֹ דִלְמָא לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ?

When we raised the dilemma, this is the dilemma that we raised: He covered it with a cover that is able to withstand the presence of oxen but is unable to withstand the presence of camels, and camels are commonly found in that location. What actually transpired was that the cover rotted from the inside. In this case, what is the halakha? Do we say: Since he was negligent concerning camels, he is considered negligent also concerning the rotting? Or perhaps we do not say that since he was negligent concerning camels he is considered negligent concerning rotting, and since in practice he is not to blame for the incident, he is not held liable?

תָּא שְׁמַע: כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – פָּטוּר. וְאִתְּמַר עֲלַהּ, אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר בַּר חָנָה: שֶׁהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְכָרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – פְּשִׁיטָא דְּפָטוּר, מַאי הֲוָה לֵיהּ לְמֶעְבַּד?

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from the mishna: If he covered the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is exempt. And it was stated with regard to this that Rabbi Yitzḥak bar bar Ḥana says: This halakha applies where the cover rotted from the inside. The Gemara clarifies: What are the circumstances? If we say that it is referring to where he covered it in a manner appropriate for oxen and appropriate for camels and it rotted from the inside, isn’t it obvious that he is exempt? Being unaware of this, what should he have done?

אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – וְקָתָנֵי פָּטוּר? אַלְמָא לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן גְּמַלִּים הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה!

Rather, is it not referring to a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels, and camels are commonly found in that location? And the strength of the cover vis-à-vis oxen and camels is not relevant to the halakha here because the cover rotted from the inside. And the mishna teaches that he is exempt. Apparently, we do not say that since he is considered negligent concerning camels, he is also considered negligent with regard to the rotting.

לָא; לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים וּכְרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ. וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – כִּי הִתְלִיעַ מַאי הֲוָה לֵיהּ לְמֶעְבַּד? מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמֵיזַל וּמִנְקַשׁ עֲלֵיהּ; קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara rejects this: No; actually, the case is where the cover was appropriate for camels and appropriate for oxen, and it rotted from the inside. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: When it rotted from the inside, what should he have done, and shouldn’t he be exempt? There is, nevertheless, a novelty in this ruling: It is necessary lest you say that he should have gone and knocked on the covering to ensure it was not hollow on the inside. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that he is not required to check to this extent.

תָּא שְׁמַע: לֹא כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי, וְנָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר אוֹ חֲמוֹר, וָמֵת – חַיָּיב. הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִילֵּימָא לֹא כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים – צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר דְּחַיָּיב?

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from the continuation of the mishna: If he did not cover the pit appropriately and an ox or a donkey fell into it and died, he is liable. The Gemara clarifies: What are the circumstances? If we say that it is referring to where he did not cover it appropriately for oxen and did not cover it appropriately for camels, does it need to be said that he is liable?

אֶלָּא לָאו כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים? וְאִי דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא, וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים – אָנוּס הוּא! אֶלָּא לָאו דִּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים, וְהִתְלִיעַ מִתּוֹכוֹ – וְקָתָנֵי חַיָּיב? אַלְמָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ דְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן גְּמַלִּים – הָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן הַתְלָעָה!

Rather, is it not a case where he covered it appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels? In this case, the following point needs clarification: If camels are commonly found there, he is negligent and should be liable. And if camels are not commonly found there, he is a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Rather, is it not a case where camels are commonly found there, and it rotted from the inside, and the mishna teaches that he is liable? Apparently, we do say that since he is negligent concerning the camels, he is considered negligent concerning the rotting, and he is therefore liable.

אָמְרִי: לָא; לְעוֹלָם כָּרָאוּי לִשְׁווֹרִים וְלֹא כָּרָאוּי לִגְמַלִּים, וּשְׁכִיחִי גְּמַלִּים; וַאֲתוֹ גְּמַלִּים וְאָרְעוּהּ, וַאֲתוֹ שְׁווֹרִים וּנְפַלוּ בֵּיהּ. וּדְקָא קַשְׁיָא לָךְ – פְּשִׁיטָא, פּוֹשֵׁעַ הוּא! אַיְּידֵי דִּנְסֵיב רֵישָׁא ״כִּסָּהוּ כָּרָאוּי״, נְסֵיב סֵיפָא נָמֵי ״לֹא כִּסָּהוּ״.

They said in response: No; actually it is referring to where he covered the pit appropriately for oxen but not appropriately for camels; and camels are commonly found there, and camels came and weakened the cover. And, subsequently, oxen came and fell in. And as for what was difficult for you to explain: It is obvious that he is liable, since he is clearly negligent, so what novelty is being introduced? The answer is that since he needs to cite the first clause of the mishna, i.e., where he covered the pit appropriately, he therefore cites the latter clause as well, i.e., where he did not cover it.

תָּא שְׁמַע: נָפַל לְתוֹכוֹ שׁוֹר חֵרֵשׁ, שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן, סוֹמֵא וּמְהַלֵּךְ בַּלַּיְלָה – חַיָּיב. פִּקֵּחַ וּמְהַלֵּךְ בַּיּוֹם – פָּטוּר. וְאַמַּאי? נֵימָא מִדְּהָוֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן חֵרֵשׁ, הָוֵי נָמֵי פּוֹשֵׁעַ לְעִנְיַן פִּקֵּחַ! אֶלָּא לָאו שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ – לָא אָמְרִינַן מִגּוֹ? שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a different proof from a baraita: With regard to an ox that was impaired by being deaf, or an ox that was an imbecile, or an ox that was very young, or a blind ox, or an ox that is walking at night and unable to see, if it fell into the pit, he is liable. If the ox was of standard intelligence for its species and was walking in the day, the owner of the pit is exempt, since the ox should have been aware of the pit. The Gemara asks: But why is he exempt? Let us say that since he is considered negligent concerning a deaf ox, he is also negligent concerning an ox of standard intelligence. Rather, is it not correct to conclude the following principle from here: We do not say that since he is negligent with regard to one matter, it is also considered negligence with regard to another matter, but he is held liable only for the damage actually attributable to his negligence? The Gemara affirms: Yes, conclude from the mishna that this is so.

נָפַל לְפָנָיו כּוּ׳. אָמַר רַב: ״לְפָנָיו״ – לְפָנָיו מַמָּשׁ, ״לְאַחֲרָיו״ – אַחֲרָיו מַמָּשׁ.

§ The mishna teaches: If a man was digging or widening a pit, and an ox passing by fell forward into it in fright due to the sound of the digging, he is liable. If it fell backward into the pit due to the sound of the digging, he is exempt. Rav says: The term forward means literally forward, and the term backward means literally backward,

Want to follow content and continue where you left off?

Create an account today to track your progress, mark what you’ve learned, and follow the shiurim that speak to you.

Clear all items from this list?

This will remove ALL the items in this section. You will lose any progress or history connected to them. This is irreversible.

Cancel
Yes, clear all

Are you sure you want to delete this item?

You will lose any progress or history connected to this item.

Cancel
Yes, delete