Eruvin 40
אֶלָּא מִחוּץ לַתְּחוּם אֲתָא. מַאן דַּאֲכַל סָבַר: הַבָּא בִּשְׁבִיל יִשְׂרָאֵל זֶה — מוּתָּר לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר.
rather, it had already been caught beforehand, but it came to the Exilarch’s house on the Festival from outside the Shabbat limit and was slaughtered on that day. The one who ate from it, namely, Rav Naḥman and Rav Ḥisda, holds: Something that comes from outside the Shabbat limit for one Jew is permitted to another Jew. Since the deer was brought for the Exilarch, the Sages at his table were permitted to eat from it, and we do not prohibit them to derive benefit from something that a gentile did for another Jew.
וּמַאן דְּלָא אֲכַל סָבַר: כׇּל דְּאָתֵי לְבֵי רֵישׁ גָּלוּתָא — אַדַּעְתָּא דְּכוּלְּהוּ רַבָּנַן אָתֵי.
And the one who did not eat from it, Rav Sheshet, holds: Anything that comes to the house of the Exilarch comes with all the Sages in mind, as it is known that the Exilarch invites them to dine with him on Festivals. Therefore, just as it was prohibited to the Exilarch himself, as it was brought from outside the Shabbat limit, so too, it was prohibited to all his guests.
וְהָא אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ רַב שֵׁשֶׁת לְרַבָּה בַּר שְׁמוּאֵל וַאֲמַר לֵיהּ?! לֹא הָיוּ דְבָרִים מֵעוֹלָם.
The Gemara asks: Didn’t Rav Sheshet meet Rabba bar Shmuel and say to him what he said, indicating that the issue is related to the question of whether the two days are considered distinct sanctities? The Gemara answers: According to Ameimar’s version of the story, that encounter never happened.
הָהוּא לִיפְתָּא דְּאָתֵי לְמָחוֹזָא, נְפַק רָבָא, חַזְיָא דִּכְמִישָׁא, שְׁרָא רָבָא לְמִיזְבַּן מִינֵּיהּ. אָמַר: הָא וַדַּאי מֵאֶיתְמוֹל נֶעֶקְרָה.
The Gemara relates that a delivery of turnip was once brought to the town of Meḥoza by gentile merchants from outside the Shabbat limit on a Festival in the Diaspora. Rava went out to the market and saw that the turnips were withered, and therefore he permitted people to buy them immediately without having to wait the amount of time needed to bring similar items from outside the limit after the Festival. He said: These turnips were certainly uprooted from the ground yesterday, and no prohibited labor was performed with them today.
מַאי אָמְרַתְּ, מִחוּץ לַתְּחוּם אָתְיָא? הַבָּא בִּשְׁבִיל יִשְׂרָאֵל זֶה, מוּתָּר לֶאֱכוֹל לְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר, וְכׇל שֶׁכֵּן הַאי דְּאַדַּעְתָּא דְגוֹיִם אֲתָא.
What might you say; that they came from outside the Shabbat limit and should therefore be prohibited? The accepted principle is: Something that comes for one Jew is permitted to be eaten by another Jew, and all the more so with regard to this delivery of turnip, which came with gentiles in mind, i.e., for their sake rather than for the sake of Jews. Therefore, if they are purchased by Jews, no prohibition is violated.
כֵּיוָן דַּחֲזָא דְּקָא מַפְּשִׁי וּמַיְיתִי לְהוּ — אֲסַר לְהוּ.
The Gemara adds: Once Rava saw that the gentile merchants started to bring increased quantities of turnips on Festival days for the sake of their Jewish customers, he prohibited the inhabitants of Meḥoza to buy them, for it was evident that they were now being brought for Jews.
הָנְהוּ בְּנֵי גְנָנָא דְּגַזּוּ לְהוּ אָסָא בְּיוֹם טוֹב שֵׁנִי, לְאוּרְתָּא שְׁרָא לְהוּ רָבִינָא לְאוֹרוֹחֵי בֵּיהּ לְאַלְתַּר. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא בַּר תַּחְלִיפָא לְרָבִינָא: לֵיסַר לְהוּ מָר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאֵינָן בְּנֵי תוֹרָה.
The Gemara relates that certain canopy makers, who would braid myrtle branches into their canopies, once cut myrtles on the second day of a Festival, and in the evening Ravina permitted people to smell them immediately at the conclusion of the Festival. Rava bar Taḥalifa said to Ravina: The Master should prohibit them to do this, as they are not knowledgeable in Torah, and therefore we should be stringent with them lest they come to treat the sanctity of the second Festival day lightly.
מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַב שְׁמַעְיָה: טַעְמָא דְּאֵינָן בְּנֵי תוֹרָה, הָא בְּנֵי תוֹרָה שְׁרֵי?! וְהָא בָּעִינַן בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיֵּעָשׂוּ! אֲזַלוּ שַׁיְילוּהּ לְרָבָא, אֲמַר לְהוּ: בָּעִינַן בִּכְדֵי שֶׁיֵּעָשׂוּ.
Rav Shemaya strongly objects to this: The reason given here is that they are not knowledgeable in Torah; but if they were knowledgeable in Torah, would it be permitted? Don’t we require them to wait the time needed for the myrtle’s preparation, i.e., the time it takes to cut them? They went and asked Rava. He said to them: We require them to wait the time needed for the myrtle’s preparation.
רַבִּי דּוֹסָא אוֹמֵר הָעוֹבֵר לִפְנֵי הַתֵּיבָה כּוּ׳.
The mishna cited Rabbi Dosa’s version of the Rosh HaShana prayer: Rabbi Dosa says: He who passes before the ark and leads the congregation in prayer on the first day of the festival of Rosh HaShana says: Strengthen us, O Lord our God, on this day of the New Moon, whether it is today or tomorrow.
אָמַר רַבָּה: כִּי הֲוֵינַן בֵּי רַב הוּנָא, אִיבַּעְיָא לַן: מַהוּ לְהַזְכִּיר שֶׁל רֹאשׁ חֹדֶשׁ בְּרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה? כֵּיוָן דַּחֲלוּקִין בְּמוּסָפִין, אָמְרִינַן? אוֹ דִילְמָא — זִכָּרוֹן אֶחָד עוֹלֶה לְכָאן וּלְכָאן?
Rabba said: When we were in the house of study of Rav Huna, we raised the following dilemma: What is the halakha with regard to whether it is proper to mention the New Moon during prayer on Rosh HaShana? The Gemara explains the two sides of the dilemma: Do we say that since they have separate additional offerings, as one additional offering is brought for the New Moon and another for Rosh HaShana, we mention them separately in prayer as well? Or perhaps one remembrance counts for both this and that? The Torah is referring to both Rosh HaShana and the New Moon as times of remembrance, and therefore perhaps simply mentioning that it is a Day of Remembrance should suffice.
אֲמַר לַן: תְּנֵיתוּהָ, רַבִּי דּוֹסָא אוֹמֵר: הָעוֹבֵר לִפְנֵי הַתֵּיבָה כּוּ׳ — מַאי לָאו לְהַזְכִּיר?
Rav Huna said to us: You have already learned the answer to this question in the mishna, which states that Rabbi Dosa says: He who passes before the ark and leads the congregation in prayer on the first day and on the second day of Rosh HaShana mentions the New Moon in a conditional manner: On this day of the New Moon, whether it is today or tomorrow. But the Rabbis did not agree with him. What, is it not that the Rabbis disagree with Rabbi Dosa about the need to mention the New Moon during prayer on Rosh HaShana?
לֹא, לְהַתְנוֹת.
The Gemara refutes this proof: No, they disagree about whether to make a condition. The novelty in Rabbi Dosa’s teaching was not that mention must be made of the New Moon, but that a condition must be made due to the day’s uncertain status. The Rabbis disagree about that.
הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא, מִדְּקָתָנֵי בְּבָרַיְיתָא: וְכֵן הָיָה רַבִּי דּוֹסָא עוֹשֶׂה בְּרָאשֵׁי חֳדָשִׁים שֶׁל כׇּל הַשָּׁנָה כּוּלָּהּ, וְלֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ.
The Gemara comments: So too, it is reasonable to say that the dispute between Rabbi Dosa and the Rabbis relates to the condition and not to the very mention of the New Moon. This can be ascertained from the fact that it was taught in a baraita: And so too, Rabbi Dosa would do this on all the New Moons for which two days are kept out of doubt the entire year; and the Rabbis did not agree with him.
אִי אָמְרַתְּ בִּשְׁלָמָא לְהַתְנוֹת — מִשּׁוּם הָכִי לֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ. אֶלָּא אִי אָמְרַתְּ לְהַזְכִּיר — אַמַּאי לֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ?
Granted, if you say that the disagreement was about whether to make a condition, that is why they did not agree with him with regard to the New Moon throughout the year, as they did not accept the whole idea of a conditional prayer. But if you say the main point of contention was whether to mention the New Moon at all, why didn’t they agree with him that the New Moon should be mentioned during prayer the rest of the year?
וְאֶלָּא מַאי — לְהַתְנוֹת? לְמָה לִי לְאִיפְּלוֹגֵי בְּתַרְתֵּי? צְרִיכָא, דְּאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה — הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: בְּהָא קָאָמְרִי רַבָּנַן דְּלָא — מִשּׁוּם דְּאָתֵי לְזַלְזוֹלֵי בֵּיהּ, אֲבָל בְּרָאשֵׁי חֳדָשִׁים שֶׁל כׇּל הַשָּׁנָה כּוּלָּהּ — אֵימָא מוֹדוּ לֵיהּ לְרַבִּי דּוֹסָא.
The Gemara asks: Rather, what is the disagreement about, whether or not to make a condition? Why do I need them to disagree in two cases? The issue is the same on Rosh HaShana as on any other New Moon. The Gemara answers: It was necessary to teach both cases, as, if he had only taught us the halakha with regard to Rosh HaShana, I might have said that only in this case did the Rabbis say that one should not mention the New Moon in a conditional manner because people might come to demean the day and perform prohibited labor. But in the case of an ordinary New Moon throughout the year, I might say that perhaps they agree with Rabbi Dosa, since labor is not prohibited on the New Moon, and therefore there is no reason for concern lest people come to treat it lightly.
וְאִי אִתְּמַר בְּהָא — בְּהָא קָאָמַר רַבִּי דּוֹסָא, אֲבָל בְּהָךְ — אֵימָא מוֹדֶה לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן. צְרִיכָא.
And if the disagreement had only been stated in this case, in the case of an ordinary New Moon, one might say that only in this case did Rabbi Dosa say that a condition may be made. But in that other case of Rosh HaShana, I might say that he agrees with the Rabbis, due to concern lest people will come to treat the Festival lightly. It was therefore necessary to state the disagreement in both cases.
מֵיתִיבִי: רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּשַׁבָּת, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: מִתְפַּלֵּל עֶשֶׂר, וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: מִתְפַּלֵּל תֵּשַׁע. וְאִם אִיתָא, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אַחַת עֶשְׂרֵה מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ?
The Gemara raises an objection based on the Tosefta that states that in the case of Rosh HaShana that occurs on Shabbat, Beit Shammai say: One prays an Amida that contains ten blessings, including the nine blessings ordinarily recited on Rosh HaShana and an additional blessing in which Shabbat is mentioned. And Beit Hillel say: One prays an Amida that contains nine blessings, as Shabbat and the Festival are mentioned in the same blessing. And if there were an opinion that held that the New Moon must be separately mentioned in the Rosh HaShana prayer, then it should say that according to Beit Shammai, one must recite eleven blessings, i.e., nine for Rosh HaShana, one for Shabbat, and one for the New Moon.
אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא: שָׁאנֵי רֹאשׁ חֹדֶשׁ, מִתּוֹךְ שֶׁכּוֹלֵל לְשַׁחֲרִית וְעַרְבִית, כּוֹלֵל נָמֵי בְּמוּסָפִין.
Rabbi Zeira said: The New Moon is different, for while it must indeed be mentioned according to Beit Shammai, it does not require a separate blessing. Since the New Moon is included in the regular morning and evening prayers without a separate blessing, it is included in the additional prayer as well without a separate blessing.
וּמִי אִית לְהוּ לְבֵית שַׁמַּאי כּוֹלֵל? וְהָתַנְיָא: רֹאשׁ חֹדֶשׁ שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּשַׁבָּת, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: מִתְפַּלֵּל שְׁמֹנֶה, וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: מִתְפַּלֵּל שֶׁבַע. קַשְׁיָא.
The Gemara asks: And do Beit Shammai accept the view that one should include the New Moon in the regular prayer? Wasn’t it taught in a baraita that with regard to a New Moon that occurs on Shabbat, Beit Shammai say: One must pray an Amida that includes eight blessings in the additional prayer, including a separate blessing for the New Moon; and Beit Hillel say: One must pray an Amida that includes seven blessings, as Shabbat and the New Moon are mentioned in the same blessing? Therefore, according to Beit Shammai, we do not include the New Moon and other days in the same blessing, and the fact that the New Moon does not have its own blessing on Rosh HaShana is because one mention of remembrance counts for both Rosh HaShana and New Moon. The Gemara comments: Indeed, this is difficult.
וְכוֹלֵל עַצְמוֹ — תַּנָּאֵי הִיא, דְּתַנְיָא: שַׁבָּת שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּרֹאשׁ חֹדֶשׁ אוֹ בְּחוּלּוֹ שֶׁל מוֹעֵד, עַרְבִית שַׁחֲרִית וּמִנְחָה מִתְפַּלֵּל כְּדַרְכּוֹ שֶׁבַע, וְאוֹמֵר מֵעֵין הַמְאוֹרָע בָּעֲבוֹדָה. רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אוֹמֵר: בַּהוֹדָאָה, וְאִם לֹא אָמַר מַחֲזִירִין אוֹתוֹ.
The Gemara comments: The issue of whether or not one should include the mention of the New Moon in the blessing pertaining to the sanctity of the day of Shabbat is itself the subject of a dispute between the tanna’im, as it was taught in a baraita with regard to a Shabbat that occurs on a New Moon or on one of the intermediate days of a Festival: For the evening, morning, and afternoon prayers, one prays in his usual manner and recites seven blessings, and says a passage pertaining to the event of the day, i.e. May there rise and come [ya’aleh veyavo], during the blessing of Temple service. Rabbi Eliezer disagrees and says that this passage is said during the blessing of thanksgiving. And if he did not recite it, we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it.
וּבְמוּסָפִין מַתְחִיל בְּשֶׁל שַׁבָּת, וּמְסַיֵּים בְּשֶׁל שַׁבָּת, וְאוֹמֵר קְדוּשַּׁת הַיּוֹם בָּאֶמְצַע.
And in the additional prayer, one begins the fourth blessing, the special blessing for the additional service, with Shabbat, and concludes it with Shabbat, and says a passage referring to the sanctity of the day of the New Moon or the Festival in the middle. Therefore, only in the additional prayer is the New Moon included in the blessing for the sanctity of the day.
רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל וְרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן בְּרוֹקָה אוֹמְרִים: כׇּל מָקוֹם שֶׁזָּקוּק לְשֶׁבַע — מַתְחִיל בְּשֶׁל שַׁבָּת וּמְסַיֵּים בְּשֶׁל שַׁבָּת, וְאוֹמֵר קְדוּשַּׁת הַיּוֹם בָּאֶמְצַע.
On the other hand, Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel and Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Beroka, say: Wherever one is obligated to recite seven blessings, including the evening, morning, and afternoon prayers, he begins the fourth blessing with Shabbat and concludes it with Shabbat, and he says a passage referring to the sanctity of the day of the New Moon or the Festival in the middle. In their opinion, the New Moon is included in the blessing of the sanctity of the day in all the prayers of the day.
מַאי הֲוָה עֲלַהּ? אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: זִכָּרוֹן אֶחָד עוֹלֶה לוֹ לְכָאן וּלְכָאן. וְכֵן אָמַר רַבָּה: זִכָּרוֹן אֶחָד עוֹלֶה לוֹ לְכָאן וּלְכָאן.
Returning to the fundamental question of whether the New Moon must be mentioned separately on Rosh HaShana, the Gemara asks: What conclusion was reached about this issue? Rav Ḥisda said: One mention of remembrance counts for both this and that. And so too, Rabba said: One mention of remembrance counts for both this and that.
וְאָמַר רַבָּה: כִּי הֲוֵינָא בֵּי רַב הוּנָא, אִיבַּעְיָא לַן: מַהוּ לוֹמַר זְמַן בְּרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה וּבְיוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים? כֵּיוָן דְּמִזְּמַן לִזְמַן אָתֵי — אָמְרִינַן, אוֹ דִילְמָא כֵּיוָן דְּלֹא אִיקְּרוּ רְגָלִים לָא אָמְרִינַן. לָא הֲוָה בִּידֵיהּ.
Having discussed the Rosh HaShana prayers, the Gemara addresses related issues. Rabba said: When I was in the house of study of Rav Huna, we raised the following dilemma: What is the halakha with regard to saying the blessing for time, i.e., Who has given us life [sheheḥeyanu], on Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur? The two sides of the dilemma are as follows: Do we say that since these Festivals come at fixed times of the year, we recite the blessing: Who has given us life, just as we would for any other joyous event that occurs at fixed intervals? Or do we say, perhaps, that since these Festivals are not called pilgrim Festivals [regalim], we do not recite: Who has given us life, as the joy that they bring is insufficient? Rav Huna did not have an answer at hand.
כִּי אֲתַאי בֵּי רַב יְהוּדָה, אֲמַר: אֲנָא אַקָּרָא חַדְתָּא נָמֵי אָמֵינָא זְמַן. אָמְרִי לֵיהּ: רְשׁוּת לָא קָא מִיבַּעְיָא לִי, כִּי קָא מִיבַּעְיָא לִי חוֹבָה מַאי? אָמַר לִי: רַב וּשְׁמוּאֵל דְּאָמְרִי תַּרְוַויְיהוּ: אֵין אוֹמֵר זְמַן אֶלָּא בְּשָׁלֹשׁ רְגָלִים.
When I came to the house of study of Rav Yehuda, he said: I recite the blessing for time even on a new gourd, and I certainly recite the blessing on Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur. I said to him: I have no dilemma about the fact that one has the option of reciting the blessing for time; the dilemma I have is about whether there is an obligation to recite the blessing. What is the halakha in this regard? Rav Yehuda said to me that it was Rav and Shmuel who both said: One recites the blessing for time only on the three pilgrim Festivals.
מֵיתִיבִי: ״תֶּן חֵלֶק לְשִׁבְעָה וְגַם לִשְׁמוֹנָה״, רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אוֹמֵר: ״שִׁבְעָה״ — אֵלּוּ שִׁבְעָה יְמֵי בְּרֵאשִׁית, ״שְׁמוֹנָה״ — אֵלּוּ שְׁמוֹנָה יְמֵי מִילָה. רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ אוֹמֵר: ״שִׁבְעָה״ — אֵלּוּ שִׁבְעָה יְמֵי פֶסַח, ״שְׁמוֹנָה״ — אֵלּוּ שְׁמוֹנָה יְמֵי הַחַג. וּכְשֶׁהוּא אוֹמֵר ״וְגַם״ — לְרַבּוֹת עֲצֶרֶת וְרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה וְיוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים.
The Gemara raises an objection based upon the following baraita: The verse states: “Give a portion to seven, and also to eight” (Ecclesiastes 11:2). Rabbi Eliezer says: “Seven,” these are the seven days of Creation; “eight,” these are the eight days until circumcision. Rabbi Yehoshua says: “Seven,” these are the seven days of Passover; “eight,” these are the eight days of the festival of Sukkot. And when it says: “And also,” like every other instance of the word “also” in the Torah, this comes to include; what it includes is Shavuot, and Rosh HaShana, and Yom Kippur.
מַאי לָאו לִזְמַן? לֹא, לִבְרָכָה.
What, is this exposition not coming to teach us that on these days one is obligated to recite the blessing for time? The Gemara responds: No, it is referring to the blessing recited over the special sanctity of the day.
הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא, דְּאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ לִזְמַן — זְמַן כׇּל שִׁבְעָה מִי אִיכָּא? הָא לָא קַשְׁיָא: דְּאִי לָא מְבָרֵךְ הָאִידָּנָא — מְבָרֵךְ לִמְחַר וּלְיוֹם אוּחְרָא.
The Gemara comments: So too, it is reasonable to explain, as if it would enter your mind to say that it is referring to the blessing for time, is there a blessing for time that is recited all seven days of the Festival? It is recited only on the first day. The Gemara refutes this argument: This is not difficult, as it means that if he does not recite the blessing for time now, he recites the blessing tomorrow or the following day, as all seven days are part of the pilgrim Festival.
מִכׇּל מָקוֹם — בָּעִינַן כּוֹס? לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ לְרַב נַחְמָן. דְּאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: זְמַן אוֹמְרוֹ אֲפִילּוּ בַּשּׁוּק. הָא לָא קַשְׁיָא, דְּאִיקְּלַע לֵיהּ כּוֹס.
The Gemara asks: In any case, we require that this blessing be recited over a cup of wine, and most people do not have cups of wine for the intermediate days of a Festival. Let us say that this supports Rav Naḥman, as Rav Naḥman said: The blessing for time may be recited even in the market, without a cup of wine. The Gemara responds: This is not difficult, as the case is that he happened to have a cup; but without a cup of wine, the blessing may not be recited.
הָתִינַח עֲצֶרֶת וְרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה, יוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים הֵיכִי עָבֵיד? אִי מְבָרֵךְ עֲלֵיהּ וְשָׁתֵי לֵיהּ — כֵּיוָן דְּאָמַר זְמַן, קַבְּלֵיהּ עֲלֵיהּ וַאֲסִר לֵיהּ.
The Gemara asks: Granted, one can recite the blessing over a cup of wine on Shavuot and Rosh HaShana; but what does one do on Yom Kippur? If you say that he should recite the blessing over a cup of wine before the actual commencement of Yom Kippur and drink it, there is a difficulty: Since he recited the blessing for time, he accepted the sanctity of the day upon himself, and therefore caused the wine to be prohibited to himself by the laws of Yom Kippur.
דְּהָאֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יִרְמְיָה בַּר אַבָּא לְרַב: מִי בָּדְלַתְּ? וַאֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין, בָּדֵילְנָא.
As didn’t Rav Yirmeya bar Abba say the following to Rav, upon observing him recite kiddush before the actual commencement of Shabbat: Have you therefore accepted the obligation to abstain from labor from this point on? And he said to him: Yes, I have accepted the obligation to abstain from labor. This indicates that once one recites kiddush and accepts upon himself the sanctity of the day, all the laws of the day apply to him. Accordingly, if one recited the blessing for time for Yom Kippur, he may no longer eat or drink.
לִבְרוֹךְ עֲלֵיהּ וְלַנְּחֵיהּ — הַמְבָרֵךְ צָרִיךְ שֶׁיִּטְעוֹם! לִיתְּבֵיהּ לְיָנוֹקָא — לֵית הִלְכְתָא כְּרַב אַחָא, דִּילְמָא אָתֵי לְמִסְרַךְ.
And if you say that he should recite the blessing over a cup of wine and leave it and drink it only after the conclusion of Yom Kippur, this too is difficult, as the principle is that one who recites a blessing over a cup of wine must taste from it. If you say that he should give it to a child, who is not obligated to fast, this too is not feasible because the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Rav Aḥa, who made a similar suggestion with regard to a different matter, due to a concern that perhaps the child will come to be drawn after it. The child might come to drink wine on Yom Kippur even in future years after he comes of age, and we do not institute a practice that might turn into a stumbling block.
מַאי הָוֵי עֲלַהּ? שַׁדְּרוּהּ רַבָּנַן לְרַב יֵימַר סָבָא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב חִסְדָּא בְּמַעֲלֵי יוֹמָא דְּרֵישׁ שַׁתָּא, אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ: זִיל חֲזִי הֵיכִי עָבֵיד עוֹבָדָא, תָּא אֵימָא לַן. כִּי חַזְיֵיהּ אֲמַר לֵיהּ: דַּלְיוּהּ לִרְטִיבָה רָפְסָא לֵיהּ בְּדוּכְתֵּיהּ. אַיְיתוֹ לֵיהּ כָּסָא דְחַמְרָא, קַדֵּישׁ וַאֲמַר זְמַן.
The Gemara asks: What conclusion was reached about this matter? Must one recite the blessing: Who has given us life, on Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur? The Sages sent Rav Yeimar the Elder before Rav Ḥisda on the eve of Rosh HaShana. They said to him: Go, see how he acts in this regard and then come and tell us. When Rav Ḥisda saw Rav Yeimar, he said to him in the words of a folk saying: One who picks up a moist log, which is not fit for firewood, must want to do something on the spot. In other words, you certainly have come to me with some purpose in mind, and not just for a visit. They brought him a cup of wine, and he recited kiddush and the blessing for time.
וְהִלְכְתָא: אוֹמֵר זְמַן בְּרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה וְיוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים. וְהִלְכְתָא: זְמַן — אוֹמְרוֹ אֲפִילּוּ בַּשּׁוּק.
The Gemara concludes: The halakha is that one recites the blessing for time on Rosh HaShana and on Yom Kippur, and the halakha is that one may recite the blessing for time even in the market, as it does not require a cup of wine.
וְאָמַר רַבָּה, כִּי הֲוֵינַן בֵּי רַב הוּנָא אִיבַּעְיָא לַן: בַּר בֵּי רַב דְּיָתֵיב בְּתַעֲנִיתָא בְּמַעֲלֵי שַׁבְּתָא, מַהוּ לְאַשְׁלוֹמֵי? לָא הֲוָה בִּידֵיהּ. אֲתַאי לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב יְהוּדָה וְלָא הֲוָה בִּידֵיהּ.
Having discussed a question that was raised during Rabba’s student years, the Gemara now records another such question. And Rabba also said: When we were in the house of study of Rav Huna, we raised the following dilemma: A student in his master’s house who is fasting on Shabbat eve, what is the halakha with regard to whether he has to complete the fast until the end of the day? Do we perhaps say that he must stop fasting before Shabbat, so as not to enter Shabbat weary from his fast? Rav Huna did not have an answer at hand. I subsequently came before Rav Yehuda, and he too did not have an answer at hand.
אָמַר רָבָא: נֶחְזְיֵיהּ אֲנַן, דְּתַנְיָא: תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּשַׁבָּת
Rava said: Let us look ourselves for an answer from the sources. As it was taught in a baraita in the case of the Ninth of Av that occurs on Shabbat,
