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The water libations override Shabbat, but there is one difference – the water is collected in a vessel that is not sanctified so that it will not be disqualified overnight. Why? After all, without intention, the vessel does not sanctify its contents so one should be able to put it in the vessel with the intent that it only becomes sanctified the following day! And there is a requisite amount so if there were to put a larger amount in the vessel, it would not become sanctified as the vessel only sanctifies when the proper amount is in it. Three possible answers are brought. If the water is left uncovered, it is invalid. Why is it not possible to take out the snake venom in a strainer? Is it because the mishna doesn’t hold like Rabbi Nechemiah who claims that venom can be removed by a strainer? The mishna mentions the playing of the flute in the Shoeva Celebration. Is the wording in the mishna “Shoeva celebration” or “Important celebration”?? Why would this event be called by these names? They used to play the flute in the temple during the Simchat Beit Hashoeva for five or six days because they do not play it on Yom Tov and Shabbat. This opinion is not agreed upon by everyone – Rabbi Yossi Bar Yehuda thinks that it also overrides Shabbat. However, Rav Yosef holds that his opinion and the debate between him and the rabbis concerns the flute that accompanied the daily sacrifice (12 days a year, including Sukkot) and not the flute of the Simchat Beit Hashoeva which clearly would not override Shabbat. The debate is whether the main part of the music is the singing or the instruments. He tries to prove that this is the root of their debate by bringing a different debate of Rabbi Yosi bar Yehuda regarding wooden utensils – can they be used for sanctified utensils in the Temple or not – and tries to learn it from the wooden flute of Moshe. The gemara rejects his proof as it is possible to understand that the controversy there stems from another matter (two other possibilities are raised).

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Sukkah 50

וְאִי מַיְיתֵי בִּמְקוּדֶּשֶׁת, אִיפְּסִילוּ לְהוּ בְּלִינָה. חִזְקִיָּה אָמַר: כְּלֵי שָׁרֵת אֵין מְקַדְּשִׁין אֶלָּא מִדַּעַת, וּגְזֵירָה שֶׁמָּא יֹאמְרוּ לְדַעַת נִתְקַדְּשׁוּ.

And if he brings the water in a consecrated barrel, the water will become disqualified for use in the libation by remaining overnight, just as all consecrated items, e.g., offerings, are rendered unfit after remaining overnight. Ḥizkiya said: Temple vessels consecrate only with specific intent. Therefore, in theory, one could bring water to the Temple in a consecrated vessel, provided he has no intent to consecrate it. And the reason one may not do so is due to a rabbinic decree lest people say, upon seeing the water poured in the morning, that the water was intentionally consecrated. In that case, they might draw the mistaken conclusion that remaining overnight does not disqualify liquids for use in libations.

אָמַר רַבִּי יַנַּאי אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא: אֲפִילּוּ תֵּימָא יֵשׁ שִׁיעוּר לַמַּיִם, וּכְלֵי שָׁרֵת אֵין מְקַדְּשִׁין אֶלָּא מִדַּעַת, וּגְזֵירָה שֶׁמָּא יֹאמְרוּ לְקִידּוּשׁ יָדַיִם וְרַגְלַיִם מִלְּאָן.

Rabbi Yannai said that Rabbi Zeira said: Even if you say that there is a requisite measure for the water to be poured for libation and no more than three log can be consecrated, and that Temple vessels consecrate only with intent, here there is a rabbinic decree lest they say the barrel was filled with water for sanctifying the hands and the feet of the priest, for which there is no measure. Then, when they see the water poured in the morning, they will draw the mistaken conclusion that remaining overnight does not disqualify liquids for use in libations.

נִשְׁפְּכָה אוֹ נִתְגַּלְּתָה כּוּ׳. וְאַמַּאי? לִיעַבַּיר בִּמְסַנֶּנֶת. לֵימָא מַתְנִיתִין דְּלָא כְּרַבִּי נְחֶמְיָה, דְּתַנְיָא: מְסַנֶּנֶת יֵשׁ בָּהּ מִשּׁוּם גִּילּוּי. אָמַר רַבִּי נְחֶמְיָה: אֵימָתַי — בִּזְמַן שֶׁהַתַּחְתּוֹנָה מְגוּלָּה, אֲבָל בִּזְמַן שֶׁהַתַּחְתּוֹנָה מְכוּסָּה, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁהָעֶלְיוֹנָה מְגוּלָּה — אֵין בָּהּ מִשּׁוּם גִּילּוּי. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאֶרֶס נָחָשׁ דּוֹמֶה לִסְפוֹג צָף וְעוֹמֵד בִּמְקוֹמוֹ.

§ The mishna continues: If the water in the barrel spilled or was exposed overnight, the water is disqualified. The Gemara asks: Why is the water disqualified? Let him pass it through a strainer, eliminating the poison. Let us say that the mishna is not in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Neḥemya, as it was taught in a baraita: A vessel covered with a strainer is subject to the halakha of exposure if the vessel is left unsupervised. Rabbi Neḥemya said: When is this so? It is when the lower vessel, in which the liquid collects after passing through the strainer, is exposed. However, if the lower vessel is covered, even if the upper vessel is exposed, it is not subject to the halakha of exposure, because the poison of a snake is like a sponge in that it floats and stays in place.

אֲפִילּוּ תֵּימָא רַבִּי נְחֶמְיָה, אֵימַר דְּאָמַר רַבִּי נְחֶמְיָה לְהֶדְיוֹט, אֲבָל לְגָבוֹהַּ מִי אָמַר? וְלֵית לֵיהּ לְרַבִּי נְחֶמְיָה: ״הַקְרִיבֵהוּ נָא לְפֶחָתֶךָ הֲיִרְצְךָ אוֹ הֲיִשָּׂא פָנֶיךָ אָמַר ה׳ צְבָאוֹת״?!

The Gemara answers: Even if you say it is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Neḥemya, say that Rabbi Neḥemya said his opinion permitting strained water for a common person. However, did he actually say that strained water is permitted even to be sacrificed to God? Even if it is possible to render this water potable, it is certainly not of the select quality that would render it eligible for use in the Temple service. Isn’t Rabbi Neḥemya of the opinion that it is inappropriate to sacrifice on the altar any item that one would not give to someone of prominent stature? As it is stated: “And when you offer the blind for sacrifice, it is no evil; and when you offer the lame and sick, it is no evil. Present it now unto your governor; will he be pleased with you or will he accept your person, says the Lord of hosts” (Malachi 1:8).



הֲדַרַן עֲלָךְ לוּלָב וַעֲרָבָה

הֶחָלִיל — חֲמִשָּׁה וְשִׁשָּׁה. זֶהוּ הֶחָלִיל שֶׁל בֵּית הַשּׁוֹאֵבָה, שֶׁאֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה לֹא אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת וְלֹא אֶת יוֹם טוֹב.

MISHNA: The flute is played on the festival of Sukkot for five or six days. This is the flute of the Place of the Drawing of the Water, whose playing overrides neither Shabbat nor the Festival. Therefore, if the first Festival day occurred on Shabbat, they would play the flute for six days that year. However, if Shabbat coincided with one of the intermediate days of the Festival, they would play the flute for only five days.

גְּמָ׳ אִיתְּמַר: רַב יְהוּדָה וְרַב עֵינָא, חַד תָּנֵי: שׁוֹאֵבָה, וְחַד תָּנֵי: חֲשׁוּבָה. אָמַר מָר זוּטְרָא: מַאן דְּתָנֵי שׁוֹאֵבָה לָא מִשְׁתַּבַּשׁ, וּמַאן דְּתָנֵי חֲשׁוּבָה לָא מִשְׁתַּבַּשׁ. מַאן דְּתָנֵי שׁוֹאֵבָה לָא מִשְׁתַּבַּשׁ, דִּכְתִיב: ״וּשְׁאַבְתֶּם מַיִם בְּשָׂשׂוֹן״. וּמַאן דְּתָנֵי חֲשׁוּבָה לָא מִשְׁתַּבַּשׁ, דְּאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: מִצְוָה חֲשׁוּבָה הִיא, וּבָאָה מִשֵּׁשֶׁת יְמֵי בְּרֵאשִׁית.

GEMARA: It was stated that Rav Yehuda and Rav Eina disagreed: One of them teaches that the celebration was called the Celebration of Drawing [sho’eva] and one of them teaches that it was called the significant [ḥashuva] celebration. Mar Zutra said: The one who taught sho’eva is not mistaken, and the one who taught ḥashuva is not mistaken. The one who taught sho’eva is not mistaken, as it is written: “And you shall draw [ushavtem] water with joy from the wells of salvation” (Isaiah 12:3), and its name reflects the fact that it is a celebration of the water libation. And the one who taught ḥashuva is not mistaken, as Rav Naḥman said: It is a significant mitzva and it originated from the six days of Creation.

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: הֶחָלִיל דּוֹחֶה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר יְהוּדָה. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אַף יוֹם טוֹב אֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה. אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשִׁיר שֶׁל קׇרְבָּן, דְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי סָבַר: עִיקַּר שִׁירָה בִּכְלִי, וַעֲבוֹדָה הִיא, וְדוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת. וְרַבָּנַן סָבְרִי: עִיקַּר שִׁירָה בַּפֶּה, וְלָאו עֲבוֹדָה הִיא, וְאֵינָהּ דּוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת. אֲבָל שִׁיר שֶׁל שׁוֹאֵבָה, דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל שִׂמְחָה הִיא, וְאֵינָהּ דּוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת.

§ The Sages taught: The flute overrides Shabbat; this is the statement of Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda. And the Rabbis say: It does not override even a Festival. Rav Yosef said: The dispute is with regard to the song that the Levites sang accompanying the daily offering. As Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda holds that the primary essence of song is the accompaniment by musical instruments, and consequently these instruments are a component of the Temple service and override Shabbat. The Rabbis hold that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and consequently the instruments are not a component of the service; they merely accompany the singing on occasion and therefore they do not override Shabbat. However, with regard to the song of the Drawing of the Water, everyone agrees that it is rejoicing and not a component of the Temple service; therefore it does not override Shabbat.

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מְנָא אָמֵינָא דִּבְהָא פְּלִיגִי, דְּתַנְיָא: כְּלֵי שָׁרֵת שֶׁעֲשָׂאָן שֶׁל עֵץ, רַבִּי פּוֹסֵל וְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר יְהוּדָה מַכְשִׁיר. מַאי לָאו בְּהָא קָמִיפַּלְגִי, מַאן דְּמַכְשַׁיר סָבַר: עִיקַּר שִׁירָה בִּכְלִי, וְיָלְפִינַן מֵאַבּוּבָא דְמֹשֶׁה. וּמַאן דְּפָסֵיל סָבַר: עִיקַּר שִׁירָה בַּפֶּה, וְלָא יָלְפִינַן מֵאַבּוּבָא דְמֹשֶׁה.

Rav Yosef said: From where do I say that they disagree about this matter? It is as it is taught in a baraita: With regard to Temple service vessels that one crafted of wood, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi deems them unfit and Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda deems them fit. What, is it not that they disagree with regard to this matter? The one who deems the wooden vessel fit holds that the primary essence of song is accompaniment by musical instruments, and we derive that sacred vessels may be crafted of wood from the wooden flute of Moses, which according to this opinion was a service vessel. And the one who deems the wooden vessel unfit holds that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and therefore we do not derive any halakha relevant to service vessels from the wooden flute of Moses, as according to this opinion it was not a service vessel.

לָא, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא עִיקַּר שִׁירָה בִּכְלִי, וְהָכָא בְּדָנִין אֶפְשָׁר מִשֶּׁאִי אֶפְשָׁר קָמִיפַּלְגִי. מַאן דְּמַכְשַׁיר סָבַר: דָּנִין אֶפְשָׁר מִשֶּׁאִי אֶפְשָׁר, וּמַאן דְּפָסֵיל סָבַר: לָא דָּנִין אֶפְשָׁר מִשֶּׁאִי אֶפְשָׁר.

The Gemara rejects this explanation of the baraita. No, that is not necessarily the matter that they dispute, as one could say that everyone agrees: The primary essence of song is singing accompanied by musical instruments. And here, it is with regard to whether one derives the possible from the impossible that they disagree. Can one establish a principle that applies in all cases based on a case with a unique aspect? The one who deems wooden service vessels fit holds that one derives the possible, i.e., Temple service vessels, from the impossible, i.e., the flute of Moses. Although there was no alternative to crafting the flute of Moses from wood, one may derive from this that sacred service vessels, even when the alternative to craft them from metal exists, may be crafted from wood. And the one who deems wooden service vessels unfit holds that one does not derive the possible from the impossible.

וְאִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא דְּעִיקַּר שִׁירָה בַּפֶּה, וְאֵין דָּנִין אֶפְשָׁר מִשֶּׁאִי אֶפְשָׁר, וְהָכָא בְּמֵילַף מְנוֹרָה בִּכְלָלֵי וּפְרָטֵי אוֹ בְּרִבּוּיֵי וּמִיעוּטֵי קָא מִיפַּלְגִי. רַבִּי דָּרֵישׁ כְּלָלֵי וּפְרָטֵי, רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר יְהוּדָה דָּרֵישׁ רִיבּוּיֵי וּמִיעוּטֵי.

And if you wish, say instead in rejection of Rav Yosef’s proof that everyone agrees that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and one does not derive the possible from the impossible. And here, it is with regard to deriving the halakhot of the Temple candelabrum by means of the hermeneutic principle of generalizations and details or by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions that they disagree. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi interprets verses by means of the principle of generalizations and details, and Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda interprets verses by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions.

רַבִּי דָּרֵישׁ כְּלָלֵי וּפְרָטֵי: ״וְעָשִׂיתָ מְנוֹרַת״ — כָּלַל, ״זָהָב טָהוֹר״ — פָּרַט, ״מִקְשָׁה תֵּעָשֶׂה הַמְּנוֹרָה״ — חָזַר וְכָלַל. כְּלָל וּפְרָט וּכְלָל, אִי אַתָּה דָן אֶלָּא כְּעֵין הַפְּרָט. מָה הַפְּרָט מְפוֹרָשׁ שֶׁל מַתֶּכֶת, אַף כֹּל שֶׁל מַתֶּכֶת.

Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi interprets the verse “And you shall make a candelabrum of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candelabrum be made” (Exodus 25:31), by means of the principle of generalizations and details. “And you shall make a candelabrum of,” is a generalization, as the material of the candelabrum is not specified; “pure gold,” that is a detail, limiting the material exclusively to gold; “of beaten work shall the candelabrum be made,” the verse then generalized again. The result is a generalization and a detail and a generalization, from which you may deduce that the verse is referring only to items that are similar to the detail; just as the detail is explicit that the candelabrum is crafted from gold, which is a metal, so too all other materials used in crafting the candelabrum must be of metal. The candelabrum is a prototype for all other Temple service vessels.

רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר יְהוּדָה, דָּרֵישׁ רִיבּוּיֵי וּמִיעוּטֵי: ״וְעָשִׂיתָ מְנוֹרַת״ — רִיבָּה, ״זָהָב טָהוֹר״ — מִיעֵט, ״מִקְשָׁה תֵּעָשֶׂה הַמְנוֹרָה״ — חָזַר וְרִיבָּה, רִיבָּה וּמִיעֵט וְרִיבָּה — רִיבָּה הַכֹּל. מַאי רַבִּי — רַבִּי כֹּל מִילֵּי, מַאי מַיעֵט — מַיעֵט שֶׁל חֶרֶס.

Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda, however, who deems wooden Temple service vessels fit, interprets verses by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions. “And you shall make a candelabrum of,” is an amplification, as the material of the candelabrum is not specified; “pure gold,” is a restriction, limiting the material exclusively to gold; “of beaten work shall the candelabrum be made,” the verse repeated and amplified. The result is amplification and restriction and amplification, from which one derives to amplify all items except for those items most dissimilar to the restriction. What did the verse amplify? It amplified all materials, even wood. And what did the verse exclude with this restriction? It excluded a candelabrum crafted of earthenware.

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא:

Rav Pappa said: Rav Yosef stated that the dispute between Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda and the Rabbis concerning whether or not the flute overrides Shabbat and Festivals is based on the significance and the role of song in the sacrifice of offerings.

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I had no formal learning in Talmud until I began my studies in the Joint Program where in 1976 I was one of the few, if not the only, woman talmud major. It was superior training for law school and enabled me to approach my legal studies with a foundation . In 2018, I began daf yomi listening to Rabbanit MIchelle’s pod cast and my daily talmud studies are one of the highlights of my life.

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Terri Krivosha

Minneapolis, United States

I began learning the daf in January 2022. I initially “flew under the radar,” sharing my journey with my husband and a few close friends. I was apprehensive – who, me? Gemara? Now, 2 years in, I feel changed. The rigor of a daily commitment frames my days. The intellectual engagement enhances my knowledge. And the virtual community of learners has become a new family, weaving a glorious tapestry.

Gitta Jaroslawicz-Neufeld
Gitta Jaroslawicz-Neufeld

Far Rockaway, United States

I started my Daf Yomi journey at the beginning of the COVID19 pandemic.

Karena Perry
Karena Perry

Los Angeles, United States

Attending the Siyyum in Jerusalem 26 months ago inspired me to become part of this community of learners. So many aspects of Jewish life have been illuminated by what we have learned in Seder Moed. My day is not complete without daf Yomi. I am so grateful to Rabbanit Michelle and the Hadran Community.

Nancy Kolodny
Nancy Kolodny

Newton, United States

3 years ago, I joined Rabbanit Michelle to organize the unprecedented Siyum HaShas event in Jerusalem for thousands of women. The whole experience was so inspiring that I decided then to start learning the daf and see how I would go…. and I’m still at it. I often listen to the Daf on my bike in mornings, surrounded by both the external & the internal beauty of Eretz Yisrael & Am Yisrael!

Lisa Kolodny
Lisa Kolodny

Raanana, Israel

I started the daf at the beginning of this cycle in January 2020. My husband, my children, grandchildren and siblings have been very supportive. As someone who learned and taught Tanach and mefarshim for many years, it has been an amazing adventure to complete the six sedarim of Mishnah, and now to study Talmud on a daily basis along with Rabbanit Michelle and the wonderful women of Hadran.

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Rookie Billet

Jerusalem, Israel

I began Daf Yomi with the last cycle. I was inspired by the Hadran Siyum in Yerushalayim to continue with this cycle. I have learned Daf Yomi with Rabanit Michelle in over 25 countries on 6 continents ( missing Australia)

Barbara-Goldschlag
Barbara Goldschlag

Silver Spring, MD, United States

Hadran entered my life after the last Siyum Hashaas, January 2020. I was inspired and challenged simultaneously, having never thought of learning Gemara. With my family’s encouragement, I googled “daf yomi for women”. A perfecr fit!
I especially enjoy when Rabbanit Michelle connects the daf to contemporary issues to share at the shabbat table e.g: looking at the Kohen during duchaning. Toda rabba

Marsha Wasserman
Marsha Wasserman

Jerusalem, Israel

I began my journey two years ago at the beginning of this cycle of the daf yomi. It has been an incredible, challenging experience and has given me a new perspective of Torah Sh’baal Peh and the role it plays in our lives

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linda kalish-marcus

Efrat, Israel

The start of my journey is not so exceptional. I was between jobs and wanted to be sure to get out every day (this was before corona). Well, I was hooked after about a month and from then on only looked for work-from-home jobs so I could continue learning the Daf. Daf has been a constant in my life, though hurricanes, death, illness/injury, weddings. My new friends are Rav, Shmuel, Ruth, Joanna.
Judi Felber
Judi Felber

Raanana, Israel

While vacationing in San Diego, Rabbi Leah Herz asked if I’d be interested in being in hevruta with her to learn Daf Yomi through Hadran. Why not? I had loved learning Gemara in college in 1971 but hadn’t returned. With the onset of covid, Daf Yomi and Rabbanit Michelle centered me each day. Thank-you for helping me grow and enter this amazing world of learning.
Meryll Page
Meryll Page

Minneapolis, MN, United States

I started learning at the beginning of this Daf Yomi cycle because I heard a lot about the previous cycle coming to an end and thought it would be a good thing to start doing. My husband had already bought several of the Koren Talmud Bavli books and they were just sitting on the shelf, not being used, so here was an opportunity to start using them and find out exactly what was in them. Loving it!

Caroline Levison
Caroline Levison

Borehamwood, United Kingdom

Hearing and reading about the siyumim at the completion of the 13 th cycle Daf Yomi asked our shul rabbi about starting the Daf – he directed me to another shiur in town he thought would allow a woman to join, and so I did! Love seeing the sources for the Divrei Torah I’ve been hearing for the past decades of living an observant life and raising 5 children .

Jill Felder
Jill Felder

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States

I read Ilana Kurshan’s “If All the Seas Were Ink” which inspired me. Then the Women’s Siyum in Jerusalem in 2020 convinced me, I knew I had to join! I have loved it- it’s been a constant in my life daily, many of the sugiyot connect to our lives. My family and friends all are so supportive. It’s incredible being part of this community and love how diverse it is! I am so excited to learn more!

Shira Jacobowitz
Shira Jacobowitz

Jerusalem, Israel

Sukkah 50

וְאִי ΧžΦ·Χ™Φ°Χ™ΧͺΦ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄ΧžΦ°Χ§Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΌΦΆΧ©ΧΦΆΧͺ, ΧΦ΄Χ™Χ€ΦΌΦ°Χ‘Φ΄Χ™ΧœΧ•ΦΌ ΧœΦ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌ Χ‘ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦ΄Χ™Χ ΦΈΧ”. Χ—Φ΄Χ–Φ°Χ§Φ΄Χ™ΦΌΦΈΧ” אָמַר: Χ›ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦ΅Χ™ שָׁר֡Χͺ ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧŸ ΧžΦ°Χ§Φ·Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ©ΧΦ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢לָּא ΧžΦ΄Χ“ΦΌΦ·Χ’Φ·Χͺ, Χ•ΦΌΧ’Φ°Χ–Φ΅Χ™Χ¨ΦΈΧ” שׁ֢מָּא Χ™ΦΉΧΧžΦ°Χ¨Χ•ΦΌ ΧœΦ°Χ“Φ·Χ’Φ·Χͺ Χ Φ΄Χͺְקַדְּשׁוּ.

And if he brings the water in a consecrated barrel, the water will become disqualified for use in the libation by remaining overnight, just as all consecrated items, e.g., offerings, are rendered unfit after remaining overnight. αΈ€izkiya said: Temple vessels consecrate only with specific intent. Therefore, in theory, one could bring water to the Temple in a consecrated vessel, provided he has no intent to consecrate it. And the reason one may not do so is due to a rabbinic decree lest people say, upon seeing the water poured in the morning, that the water was intentionally consecrated. In that case, they might draw the mistaken conclusion that remaining overnight does not disqualify liquids for use in libations.

אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ יַנַּאי אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ ז֡ירָא: ΧΦ²Χ€Φ΄Χ™ΧœΦΌΧ•ΦΌ ΧͺΦΌΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦΈΧ י֡שׁ שִׁיגוּר ΧœΦ·ΧžΦΌΦ·Χ™Φ΄Χ, Χ•ΦΌΧ›Φ°ΧœΦ΅Χ™ שָׁר֡Χͺ ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧŸ ΧžΦ°Χ§Φ·Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ©ΧΦ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢לָּא ΧžΦ΄Χ“ΦΌΦ·Χ’Φ·Χͺ, Χ•ΦΌΧ’Φ°Χ–Φ΅Χ™Χ¨ΦΈΧ” שׁ֢מָּא Χ™ΦΉΧΧžΦ°Χ¨Χ•ΦΌ ΧœΦ°Χ§Φ΄Χ™Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ©Χ יָדַיִם Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ·Χ’Φ°ΧœΦ·Χ™Φ΄Χ מִלְּאָן.

Rabbi Yannai said that Rabbi Zeira said: Even if you say that there is a requisite measure for the water to be poured for libation and no more than three log can be consecrated, and that Temple vessels consecrate only with intent, here there is a rabbinic decree lest they say the barrel was filled with water for sanctifying the hands and the feet of the priest, for which there is no measure. Then, when they see the water poured in the morning, they will draw the mistaken conclusion that remaining overnight does not disqualify liquids for use in libations.

נִשְׁ׀ְּכָה אוֹ Χ Φ΄ΧͺΦ°Χ’ΦΌΦ·ΧœΦΌΦ°ΧͺΦΈΧ” Χ›ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ³. Χ•Φ°ΧΦ·ΧžΦΌΦ·ΧΧ™? ΧœΦ΄Χ™Χ’Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ™Χ¨ Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄ΧžΦ°Χ‘Φ·Χ ΦΌΦΆΧ ΦΆΧͺ. ΧœΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦΈΧ מַΧͺΦ°Χ Φ΄Χ™ΧͺΦ΄Χ™ΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦΈΧ Χ›ΦΌΦ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ Φ°Χ—ΦΆΧžΦ°Χ™ΦΈΧ”, Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χͺַנְיָא: מְבַנּ֢נ֢Χͺ י֡שׁ Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ”ΦΌ ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΧ•ΦΌΧ Χ’ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ΧœΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ™. אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ Φ°Χ—ΦΆΧžΦ°Χ™ΦΈΧ”: ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦΈΧͺΦ·Χ™ β€” Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ–Φ°ΧžΦ·ΧŸ שׁ֢הַΧͺΦΌΦ·Χ—Φ°ΧͺΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ ΦΈΧ” ΧžΦ°Χ’Χ•ΦΌΧœΦΌΦΈΧ”, ΧΦ²Χ‘ΦΈΧœ Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ–Φ°ΧžΦ·ΧŸ שׁ֢הַΧͺΦΌΦ·Χ—Φ°ΧͺΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ ΦΈΧ” ΧžΦ°Χ›Χ•ΦΌΧ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ”, אַף גַל Χ€ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ©ΧΦΆΧ”ΦΈΧ’ΦΆΧœΦ°Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ ΦΈΧ” ΧžΦ°Χ’Χ•ΦΌΧœΦΌΦΈΧ” β€” ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧŸ Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ”ΦΌ ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΧ•ΦΌΧ Χ’ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ΧœΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ™. ΧžΦ΄Χ€ΦΌΦ°Χ Φ΅Χ™ שׁ֢א֢ר֢ב נָחָשׁ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧžΦΆΧ” ΧœΦ΄Χ‘Φ°Χ€Χ•ΦΉΧ’ Χ¦ΦΈΧ£ Χ•Φ°Χ’Χ•ΦΉΧžΦ΅Χ“ Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄ΧžΦ°Χ§Χ•ΦΉΧžΧ•ΦΉ.

Β§ The mishna continues: If the water in the barrel spilled or was exposed overnight, the water is disqualified. The Gemara asks: Why is the water disqualified? Let him pass it through a strainer, eliminating the poison. Let us say that the mishna is not in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi NeαΈ₯emya, as it was taught in a baraita: A vessel covered with a strainer is subject to the halakha of exposure if the vessel is left unsupervised. Rabbi NeαΈ₯emya said: When is this so? It is when the lower vessel, in which the liquid collects after passing through the strainer, is exposed. However, if the lower vessel is covered, even if the upper vessel is exposed, it is not subject to the halakha of exposure, because the poison of a snake is like a sponge in that it floats and stays in place.

ΧΦ²Χ€Φ΄Χ™ΧœΦΌΧ•ΦΌ ΧͺΦΌΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦΈΧ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ Φ°Χ—ΦΆΧžΦ°Χ™ΦΈΧ”, ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦ·Χ¨ Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧΦΈΧžΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ Φ°Χ—ΦΆΧžΦ°Χ™ΦΈΧ” ΧœΦ°Χ”ΦΆΧ“Φ°Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ˜, ΧΦ²Χ‘ΦΈΧœ ΧœΦ°Χ’ΦΈΧ‘Χ•ΦΉΧ”ΦΌΦ· ΧžΦ΄Χ™ אָמַר? Χ•Φ°ΧœΦ΅Χ™Χͺ ΧœΦ΅Χ™Χ”ΦΌ ΧœΦ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ Φ°Χ—ΦΆΧžΦ°Χ™ΦΈΧ”: Χ΄Χ”Φ·Χ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘Φ΅Χ”Χ•ΦΌ נָא ΧœΦ°Χ€ΦΆΧ—ΦΈΧͺ֢ךָ Χ”Φ²Χ™Φ΄Χ¨Φ°Χ¦Φ°ΧšΦΈ אוֹ הֲיִשָּׂא Χ€ΦΈΧ ΦΆΧ™ΧšΦΈ אָמַר Χ”Χ³ צְבָאוֹΧͺΧ΄?!

The Gemara answers: Even if you say it is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi NeαΈ₯emya, say that Rabbi NeαΈ₯emya said his opinion permitting strained water for a common person. However, did he actually say that strained water is permitted even to be sacrificed to God? Even if it is possible to render this water potable, it is certainly not of the select quality that would render it eligible for use in the Temple service. Isn’t Rabbi NeαΈ₯emya of the opinion that it is inappropriate to sacrifice on the altar any item that one would not give to someone of prominent stature? As it is stated: β€œAnd when you offer the blind for sacrifice, it is no evil; and when you offer the lame and sick, it is no evil. Present it now unto your governor; will he be pleased with you or will he accept your person, says the Lord of hosts” (Malachi 1:8).

Χ”Φ²Χ“Φ·Χ¨Φ·ΧŸ גֲלָךְ ΧœΧ•ΦΌΧœΦΈΧ‘ Χ•Φ·Χ’Φ²Χ¨ΦΈΧ‘ΦΈΧ”

Χ”ΦΆΧ—ΦΈΧœΦ΄Χ™Χœ β€” Χ—Φ²ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΦΈΧ” וְשִׁשָּׁה. Χ–ΦΆΧ”Χ•ΦΌ Χ”ΦΆΧ—ΦΈΧœΦ΄Χ™Χœ שׁ֢ל Χ‘ΦΌΦ΅Χ™Χͺ הַשּׁוֹא֡בָה, שׁ֢א֡ינוֹ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΆΧ” לֹא א֢Χͺ הַשַּׁבָּΧͺ Χ•Φ°ΧœΦΉΧ א֢Χͺ יוֹם Χ˜Χ•ΦΉΧ‘.

MISHNA: The flute is played on the festival of Sukkot for five or six days. This is the flute of the Place of the Drawing of the Water, whose playing overrides neither Shabbat nor the Festival. Therefore, if the first Festival day occurred on Shabbat, they would play the flute for six days that year. However, if Shabbat coincided with one of the intermediate days of the Festival, they would play the flute for only five days.

Χ’ΦΌΦ°ΧžΦΈΧ³ אִיΧͺְּמַר: Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ Χ™Φ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΈΧ” Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ ג֡ינָא, Χ—Φ·Χ“ ΧͺΦΌΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™: שׁוֹא֡בָה, Χ•Φ°Χ—Φ·Χ“ ΧͺΦΌΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™: חֲשׁוּבָה. אָמַר מָר Χ–Χ•ΦΌΧ˜Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ: מַאן Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧͺΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™ שׁוֹא֡בָה לָא מִשְׁΧͺַּבַּשׁ, Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ·ΧΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧͺΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™ חֲשׁוּבָה לָא מִשְׁΧͺַּבַּשׁ. מַאן Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧͺΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™ שׁוֹא֡בָה לָא מִשְׁΧͺַּבַּשׁ, Χ“ΦΌΦ΄Χ›Φ°ΧͺΦ΄Χ™Χ‘: ״וּשְׁאַבְΧͺּ֢ם ΧžΦ·Χ™Φ΄Χ Χ‘ΦΌΦ°Χ©Χ‚ΦΈΧ©Χ‚Χ•ΦΉΧŸΧ΄. Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ·ΧΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧͺΦΈΧ Φ΅Χ™ חֲשׁוּבָה לָא מִשְׁΧͺַּבַּשׁ, Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧΦΈΧžΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ Χ Φ·Χ—Φ°ΧžΦΈΧŸ: ΧžΦ΄Χ¦Φ°Χ•ΦΈΧ” חֲשׁוּבָה הִיא, וּבָאָה מִשּׁ֡שׁ֢Χͺ Χ™Φ°ΧžΦ΅Χ™ בְּר֡אשִׁיΧͺ.

GEMARA: It was stated that Rav Yehuda and Rav Eina disagreed: One of them teaches that the celebration was called the Celebration of Drawing [sho’eva] and one of them teaches that it was called the significant [αΈ₯ashuva] celebration. Mar Zutra said: The one who taught sho’eva is not mistaken, and the one who taught αΈ₯ashuva is not mistaken. The one who taught sho’eva is not mistaken, as it is written: β€œAnd you shall draw [ushavtem] water with joy from the wells of salvation” (Isaiah 12:3), and its name reflects the fact that it is a celebration of the water libation. And the one who taught αΈ₯ashuva is not mistaken, as Rav NaαΈ₯man said: It is a significant mitzva and it originated from the six days of Creation.

ΧͺΦΌΦΈΧ Χ•ΦΌ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ Φ·ΧŸ: Χ”ΦΆΧ—ΦΈΧœΦ΄Χ™Χœ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΆΧ” א֢Χͺ הַשַּׁבָּΧͺ, Χ“ΦΌΦ΄Χ‘Φ°Χ¨Φ΅Χ™ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ Χ™Φ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΈΧ”. Χ•Φ·Χ—Φ²Χ›ΦΈΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ ΧΧ•ΦΉΧžΦ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ: אַף יוֹם Χ˜Χ•ΦΉΧ‘ א֡ינוֹ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΆΧ”. אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ£: ΧžΦ·Χ—Φ°ΧœΧ•ΦΉΧ§ΦΆΧͺ בְּשִׁיר שׁ֢ל Χ§Χ‡Χ¨Φ°Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧŸ, Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ·Χ¨: Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ›Φ°ΧœΦ΄Χ™, Χ•Φ·Χ’Φ²Χ‘Χ•ΦΉΧ“ΦΈΧ” הִיא, Χ•Φ°Χ“Χ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΈΧ” א֢Χͺ הַשַּׁבָּΧͺ. Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ Φ·ΧŸ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ™: Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ€ΦΌΦΆΧ”, Χ•Φ°ΧœΦΈΧΧ• Χ’Φ²Χ‘Χ•ΦΉΧ“ΦΈΧ” הִיא, וְא֡ינָהּ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΈΧ” א֢Χͺ הַשַּׁבָּΧͺ. ΧΦ²Χ‘ΦΈΧœ שִׁיר שׁ֢ל שׁוֹא֡בָה, Χ“ΦΌΦ΄Χ‘Φ°Χ¨Φ΅Χ™ Χ”Φ·Χ›ΦΌΦΉΧœ Χ©Χ‚Φ΄ΧžΦ°Χ—ΦΈΧ” הִיא, וְא֡ינָהּ Χ“ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ—ΦΈΧ” א֢Χͺ הַשַּׁבָּΧͺ.

Β§ The Sages taught: The flute overrides Shabbat; this is the statement of Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda. And the Rabbis say: It does not override even a Festival. Rav Yosef said: The dispute is with regard to the song that the Levites sang accompanying the daily offering. As Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda holds that the primary essence of song is the accompaniment by musical instruments, and consequently these instruments are a component of the Temple service and override Shabbat. The Rabbis hold that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and consequently the instruments are not a component of the service; they merely accompany the singing on occasion and therefore they do not override Shabbat. However, with regard to the song of the Drawing of the Water, everyone agrees that it is rejoicing and not a component of the Temple service; therefore it does not override Shabbat.

אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ£: מְנָא ΧΦΈΧžΦ΅Χ™Χ ΦΈΧ דִּבְהָא Χ€ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦ΄Χ™Χ’Φ΄Χ™, Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χͺַנְיָא: Χ›ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦ΅Χ™ שָׁר֡Χͺ Χ©ΧΦΆΧ’Φ²Χ©Χ‚ΦΈΧΦΈΧŸ שׁ֢ל Χ’Φ΅Χ₯, Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ€ΦΌΧ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χœ Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ Χ™Φ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΈΧ” ΧžΦ·Χ›Φ°Χ©ΧΦ΄Χ™Χ¨. ΧžΦ·ΧΧ™ ΧœΦΈΧΧ• בְּהָא Χ§ΦΈΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ€ΦΌΦ·ΧœΦ°Χ’Φ΄Χ™, מַאן Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧžΦ·Χ›Φ°Χ©ΧΦ·Χ™Χ¨ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ·Χ¨: Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ›Φ°ΧœΦ΄Χ™, Χ•Φ°Χ™ΦΈΧœΦ°Χ€Φ΄Χ™Χ Φ·ΧŸ ΧžΦ΅ΧΦ·Χ‘ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ‘ΦΈΧ Χ“Φ°ΧžΦΉΧ©ΧΦΆΧ”. Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ·ΧΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ€ΦΈΧ‘Φ΅Χ™Χœ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ·Χ¨: Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ€ΦΌΦΆΧ”, Χ•Φ°ΧœΦΈΧ Χ™ΦΈΧœΦ°Χ€Φ΄Χ™Χ Φ·ΧŸ ΧžΦ΅ΧΦ·Χ‘ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ‘ΦΈΧ Χ“Φ°ΧžΦΉΧ©ΧΦΆΧ”.

Rav Yosef said: From where do I say that they disagree about this matter? It is as it is taught in a baraita: With regard to Temple service vessels that one crafted of wood, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi deems them unfit and Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda deems them fit. What, is it not that they disagree with regard to this matter? The one who deems the wooden vessel fit holds that the primary essence of song is accompaniment by musical instruments, and we derive that sacred vessels may be crafted of wood from the wooden flute of Moses, which according to this opinion was a service vessel. And the one who deems the wooden vessel unfit holds that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and therefore we do not derive any halakha relevant to service vessels from the wooden flute of Moses, as according to this opinion it was not a service vessel.

לָא, Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ›Χ•ΦΌΧœΦΌΦ΅Χ™ גָלְמָא Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ›Φ°ΧœΦ΄Χ™, וְהָכָא Χ‘ΦΌΦ°Χ“ΦΈΧ Φ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢׀ְשָׁר ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΦΆΧΦ΄Χ™ א֢׀ְשָׁר Χ§ΦΈΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ€ΦΌΦ·ΧœΦ°Χ’Φ΄Χ™. מַאן Χ“ΦΌΦ°ΧžΦ·Χ›Φ°Χ©ΧΦ·Χ™Χ¨ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ·Χ¨: Χ“ΦΌΦΈΧ Φ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢׀ְשָׁר ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΦΆΧΦ΄Χ™ א֢׀ְשָׁר, Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ·ΧΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ€ΦΈΧ‘Φ΅Χ™Χœ Χ‘ΦΈΧ‘Φ·Χ¨: לָא Χ“ΦΌΦΈΧ Φ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢׀ְשָׁר ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΦΆΧΦ΄Χ™ א֢׀ְשָׁר.

The Gemara rejects this explanation of the baraita. No, that is not necessarily the matter that they dispute, as one could say that everyone agrees: The primary essence of song is singing accompanied by musical instruments. And here, it is with regard to whether one derives the possible from the impossible that they disagree. Can one establish a principle that applies in all cases based on a case with a unique aspect? The one who deems wooden service vessels fit holds that one derives the possible, i.e., Temple service vessels, from the impossible, i.e., the flute of Moses. Although there was no alternative to crafting the flute of Moses from wood, one may derive from this that sacred service vessels, even when the alternative to craft them from metal exists, may be crafted from wood. And the one who deems wooden service vessels unfit holds that one does not derive the possible from the impossible.

וְאִיבָּג֡יΧͺ ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧžΦΈΧ: Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ›Χ•ΦΌΧœΦΌΦ΅Χ™ גָלְמָא Χ“ΦΌΦ°Χ’Φ΄Χ™Χ§ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ שִׁירָה Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ€ΦΌΦΆΧ”, Χ•Φ°ΧΦ΅Χ™ΧŸ Χ“ΦΌΦΈΧ Φ΄Χ™ΧŸ א֢׀ְשָׁר ΧžΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΦΆΧΦ΄Χ™ א֢׀ְשָׁר, וְהָכָא Χ‘ΦΌΦ°ΧžΦ΅Χ™ΧœΦ·Χ£ ΧžΦ°Χ Χ•ΦΉΧ¨ΦΈΧ” Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ›Φ°ΧœΦΈΧœΦ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜Φ΅Χ™ אוֹ Χ‘ΦΌΦ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ‘ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ™Φ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ’Χ•ΦΌΧ˜Φ΅Χ™ קָא ΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ€ΦΌΦ·ΧœΦ°Χ’Φ΄Χ™. Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ דָּר֡ישׁ Χ›ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦΈΧœΦ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜Φ΅Χ™, Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ Χ™Φ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΈΧ” דָּר֡ישׁ Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ™Φ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ’Χ•ΦΌΧ˜Φ΅Χ™.

And if you wish, say instead in rejection of Rav Yosef’s proof that everyone agrees that the primary essence of song is singing with the mouth, and one does not derive the possible from the impossible. And here, it is with regard to deriving the halakhot of the Temple candelabrum by means of the hermeneutic principle of generalizations and details or by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions that they disagree. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi interprets verses by means of the principle of generalizations and details, and Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda interprets verses by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions.

Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ דָּר֡ישׁ Χ›ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦΈΧœΦ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜Φ΅Χ™: Χ΄Χ•Φ°Χ’ΦΈΧ©Χ‚Φ΄Χ™ΧͺΦΈ ΧžΦ°Χ Χ•ΦΉΧ¨Φ·ΧͺΧ΄ β€” Χ›ΦΌΦΈΧœΦ·Χœ, Χ΄Χ–ΦΈΧ”ΦΈΧ‘ Χ˜ΦΈΧ”Χ•ΦΉΧ¨Χ΄ β€” ׀ָּרַט, Χ΄ΧžΦ΄Χ§Φ°Χ©ΧΦΈΧ” ΧͺΦΌΦ΅Χ’ΦΈΧ©Χ‚ΦΆΧ” Χ”Φ·ΧžΦΌΦ°Χ Χ•ΦΉΧ¨ΦΈΧ”Χ΄ β€” Χ—ΦΈΧ–Φ·Χ¨ Χ•Φ°Χ›ΦΈΧœΦ·Χœ. Χ›ΦΌΦ°ΧœΦΈΧœ Χ•ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜ Χ•ΦΌΧ›Φ°ΧœΦΈΧœ, אִי אַΧͺΦΌΦΈΧ” Χ“ΦΈΧŸ א֢לָּא Χ›ΦΌΦ°Χ’Φ΅Χ™ΧŸ Χ”Φ·Χ€ΦΌΦ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜. ΧžΦΈΧ” Χ”Φ·Χ€ΦΌΦ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ˜ ΧžΦ°Χ€Χ•ΦΉΧ¨ΦΈΧ©Χ שׁ֢ל מַΧͺΦΌΦΆΧ›ΦΆΧͺ, אַף Χ›ΦΌΦΉΧœ שׁ֢ל מַΧͺΦΌΦΆΧ›ΦΆΧͺ.

Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi interprets the verse β€œAnd you shall make a candelabrum of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candelabrum be made” (Exodus 25:31), by means of the principle of generalizations and details. β€œAnd you shall make a candelabrum of,” is a generalization, as the material of the candelabrum is not specified; β€œpure gold,” that is a detail, limiting the material exclusively to gold; β€œof beaten work shall the candelabrum be made,” the verse then generalized again. The result is a generalization and a detail and a generalization, from which you may deduce that the verse is referring only to items that are similar to the detail; just as the detail is explicit that the candelabrum is crafted from gold, which is a metal, so too all other materials used in crafting the candelabrum must be of metal. The candelabrum is a prototype for all other Temple service vessels.

Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ™Χ•ΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ™ Χ‘ΦΌΦ·Χ¨ Χ™Φ°Χ”Χ•ΦΌΧ“ΦΈΧ”, דָּר֡ישׁ Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΧ•ΦΌΧ™Φ΅Χ™ Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ’Χ•ΦΌΧ˜Φ΅Χ™: Χ΄Χ•Φ°Χ’ΦΈΧ©Χ‚Φ΄Χ™ΧͺΦΈ ΧžΦ°Χ Χ•ΦΉΧ¨Φ·ΧͺΧ΄ β€” Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ”, Χ΄Χ–ΦΈΧ”ΦΈΧ‘ Χ˜ΦΈΧ”Χ•ΦΉΧ¨Χ΄ β€” ΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ’Φ΅Χ˜, Χ΄ΧžΦ΄Χ§Φ°Χ©ΧΦΈΧ” ΧͺΦΌΦ΅Χ’ΦΈΧ©Χ‚ΦΆΧ” Χ”Φ·ΧžΦ°Χ Χ•ΦΉΧ¨ΦΈΧ”Χ΄ β€” Χ—ΦΈΧ–Φ·Χ¨ Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ”, Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ” Χ•ΦΌΧžΦ΄Χ™Χ’Φ΅Χ˜ Χ•Φ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ” β€” Χ¨Φ΄Χ™Χ‘ΦΌΦΈΧ” Χ”Φ·Χ›ΦΌΦΉΧœ. ΧžΦ·ΧΧ™ Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ β€” Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ΦΌΦ΄Χ™ Χ›ΦΌΦΉΧœ ΧžΦ΄Χ™ΧœΦΌΦ΅Χ™, ΧžΦ·ΧΧ™ ΧžΦ·Χ™Χ’Φ΅Χ˜ β€” ΧžΦ·Χ™Χ’Φ΅Χ˜ שׁ֢ל Χ—ΦΆΧ¨ΦΆΧ‘.

Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda, however, who deems wooden Temple service vessels fit, interprets verses by means of the principle of amplifications and restrictions. β€œAnd you shall make a candelabrum of,” is an amplification, as the material of the candelabrum is not specified; β€œpure gold,” is a restriction, limiting the material exclusively to gold; β€œof beaten work shall the candelabrum be made,” the verse repeated and amplified. The result is amplification and restriction and amplification, from which one derives to amplify all items except for those items most dissimilar to the restriction. What did the verse amplify? It amplified all materials, even wood. And what did the verse exclude with this restriction? It excluded a candelabrum crafted of earthenware.

אָמַר Χ¨Φ·Χ‘ ׀ָּ׀ָּא:

Rav Pappa said: Rav Yosef stated that the dispute between Rabbi Yosei bar Yehuda and the Rabbis concerning whether or not the flute overrides Shabbat and Festivals is based on the significance and the role of song in the sacrifice of offerings.

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