Today's Daf Yomi
June 14, 2016 | ืืณ ืืกืืื ืชืฉืขืดื
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This monthโs learning is sponsored by Jon and Yael Cohen in memory of Dr. Robert Van Amerongen.ย May his memory be blessed.
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This month's learning is sponsored by Amy Cohn in memory of her father, Professor Dov Zlotnick who taught his five girls the love of learning.
Bava Kamma 14
Study Guide Bava Kamma 14. What are the levels of responsibility in a commonly owned property. ย What if it was commonly owned for produce but not for animals? ย The next mishna lists conditions for how the money gets paid. ย The terms in the mishna are very unclear and the gemara works on explaining them.
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ืืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื
but he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage. Accordingly, the lender remains responsible for his ox, and if it caused damage to the borrowerโs ox the lender is liable, as in any other case in which his ox caused damage.
ืื ืืื ืืืื ืกืืคื ื ืคืจืฆื ืืืืื ืื ืฉืคืจืฆืื ืืกืืื ืืืฆืชื ืืืืืงื ืคืืืจ ืื ืืืื ืืืื ืื ืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื
The Gemara asks: If that is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: If the ox was safely enclosed and a wall broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, the bailee is exempt from liability. The Gemara infers: If it broke open during the day and then caused damage, he is liable. The Gemara asks: According to the interpretation offered in explanation of the previous clause, the baraita concerns a case in which one borrowed an ox but did not undertake the responsibility to prevent it from causing damage. If so, how can the latter clause imply that there are cases in which he is liable? If he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage, he should never be liable for the damage that it caused.
ืืื ืงืืืจ ืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื ืืืื ื ืคืจืฆื ืืืืื ืื ืฉืคืจืฆืื ืืกืืื ืืืฆืชื ืืืืืงื ืคืืืจ
The Gemara answers that the latter clause of the baraita concerns a different case than that of the previous clause. This is what the latter clause of the baraita is saying: If, by contrast, the borrower did undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage, if it causes damage, the borrower is liable. But if the ox was safely enclosed and the wall enclosing it broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, he is exempt.
ืืื ื ืืื ืชื ื ืจื ืืืกืฃ ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืคืื ืืง ืืืื ืืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืชืืืืชื ืืจืื ืืืขืืจ
The Gemara returns to its prior discussion of the mishnaโs statement concerning property designated for the joint use of the injured party and the one liable for the damage. The Gemara cited Rabbi Elazarโs opinion that each partner is exempt from liability for any damage that falls within the categories of Trampling or Eating that their ox caused to the other partnerโs property. The Gemara challenges his opinion: Is that so? But didnโt Rav Yosef teach in a baraita: In a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners, or in an inn [pundak], one is liable for Eating and for Trampling caused by an ox of one partner to the property of the other. It would appear that this baraita is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rabbi Elazar.
ืืืจ ืื ืจืื ืืืขืืจ ืืชืกืืจื ืืชื ืืชื ืื ืื ืคืืืื ืืืชื ืื ืืจืืขื ืืืืืช ืืื ืจืื ืฉืืขืื ืื ืืืขืืจ ืืืืจ ืื ืืงืื ืื ืฉืืื ืจืฉืืช ืื ืืืง ืืื ืืืืืง ืืืื ืืื ืืืืืง ืืื ืื ืืืง ืคืืืจ ืืื
The Gemara answers: Rabbi Elazar could have said to you: But how can you understand that this baraita provides a refutation of my opinion? Are there not baraitot that disagree with regard to this issue? And it is taught in accordance with my opinion in a baraita in the Tosefta (1:9): Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage occurs. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there. If a place is the property of the one liable for the damage and is not the property of the injured party, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for all the damage caused there.
ืืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืืงืขื ืคืืืจ ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืขื ืื ืืืื ืืขื ืื ืืืคื ืืขื ืื ืฉืืื ืืขื ืืจืืืฆื ืืขื ืืืขืืื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
If a place is the property of both this one and that one, e.g., a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is used by the public, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืฉืืื ื ืฉื ืฉื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืขื ืื ืืืื ืืขื ืื ืฉืืื ืืขื ืื ืืืคื ืืขื ืืจืืืฆื ืืขื ืืืขืืื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืงืชื ื ืืืืช ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืืงืขื ืคืืืจ ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื
The Gemara notes that in any event the baraita teaches that in a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is jointly owned, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. This baraita supports Rabbi Elazarโs opinion.
ืงืฉืื ืืืืื
The Gemara comments: These baraitot are difficult, as they seem to contradict one another.
ืื ืชื ืื ืืืื ืืืฆืจ ืืืืืืช ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืคืืจืืช ืืื ืืฉืืืจืื ืืืื ืืจื ืืืกืฃ ืืืฆืจ ืืืืืืช ืืคืืจืืช ืืืื ื ืืืืืืช ืืฉืืืจืื ืืืืื ืฉื ืืืื ืื ืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง
The Gemara explains: When that baraita is taught, it is with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the use of both this one and that one, i.e., as partners, for bringing both produce and oxen there. Since both partners have a right to keep their oxen there, they are not liable for any damage their oxen cause in the jointly owned space. That baraita of Rav Yosef is taught with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the purpose of bringing their produce there, but it is not designated for bringing oxen there. Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating caused by one partnerโs ox to the otherโs produce, it is equivalent to a courtyard owned exclusively by the injured party, and therefore he is liable.
ืืืงื ื ืื ืืงืชื ื ืืื ืืืืื ืืคืื ืืง ืืงืชื ื ืืชื ืืืืื ืืืงืขื ืฉืืข ืืื ื
The Gemara notes: In accordance with this explanation, the language of each of these baraitot is also precise, as it teaches here, in the baraita of Rav Yosef, the case of a courtyard that is similar to an inn, where oxen are usually not allowed to be brought, and it teaches there, in the second baraita, the case of a courtyard that is similar to a field in the valley, where oxen are usually allowed to enter. Conclude from it that the Gemaraโs distinction between the two baraitot is correct.
ืืชืงืืฃ ืื ืจืื ืืืจื ืืืื ืืืืืืืช ืืคืืจืืช ืื ืืขืื ื ืืืขืจ ืืฉืื ืืืจ ืืืืื
Rabbi Zeira objects to this interpretation of Rav Yosefโs baraita: Since the courtyard is designated for both of them to keep their produce there, they should not be liable for damage caused by their oxen there, as in order for one to be liable donโt we need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: โAnd it consumed in a field of anotherโ (Exodus 22:4), and since they both have the right to use the courtyard it does not fulfill this condition.
ืืืจ ืืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืืื ื ืืืืืืช ืืฉืืืจืื ืฉืื ืืืจ ืงืจืื ื ืืื
Abaye said to him: Since it is not designated for them to keep oxen there, that is sufficient for it to be termed โa field of another.โ
ืืืจ ืืื ืจื ืืื ืืืืคืชื ืืจืืื ื ืืืื ืืืืชื ืืชื ืื ืคืืืื ืืืืจืื ื ืื ืื ืคืืืื
Given the distinction between the cases discussed in the baraitot, the Gemara reconsiders the dispute between Rav แธคisda and Rabbi Elazar concerning the mishnaโs statement about property whose use is designated for both the injured party and the one liable for the damage. Rav Aแธฅa of Difti said to Ravina: Let us say that from the fact that the baraitot do not disagree, as they are referring to different cases, so too, the amoraโim, i.e., Rav แธคisda and Rabbi Elazar, also do not disagree, as they are similarly referring to these different cases.
ืืืจ ืืื ืืื ืืื ืชืืฆื ืืืืจ ืคืืืื ืืงืืฉืื ืืจืื ืืืจื ืืืคืืจืืงื ืืืืื ืคืืืื
Ravina said to him: Yes, that is correct. And even if you say that they disagree, their dispute does not concern every case of a jointly owned courtyard, as the Gemara had assumed; rather, their dispute concerns specifically a courtyard designated for the use of their produce, but not the use of their oxen. And they disagree whether to accept the difficulty raised by Rabbi Zeira, that such a courtyard cannot be considered โa field of another,โ or whether to accept the resolution of Abaye, that it can be considered โa field of another.โ
ืืืคื ืืจืืขื ืืืืืช ืืื ืจืื ืฉืืขืื ืื ืืืขืืจ ืืืืจ ืื ืืงืื ืื ืฉืืื ืจืฉืืช ืื ืืืง ืืื ืืืืืง ืืืื ืืื
ยง The Gemara returns to the matter itself and analyzes the baraita in the Tosefta cited above. It states: Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage was caused. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there.
ืขื ืืื ืื ืงืชื ื ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืืื ื ืืง
The Gemara infers: The baraita does not teach: One is liable for any [al hakkol] damage caused there, which would suggest that one is liable for all types of damage. Rather, it teaches: One is liable for all [bakkol] the damage caused, which can be translated as: For the full cost of the damage. This indicates that even were oneโs ox considered to be innocuous and caused damage of the category of Goring, which would generally incur liability for half the value of the damage, in this case the owner is liable for the full cost of the damage.
ืื ื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืื ืืืืจ ืืฉืื ื ืงืจื ืืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ื ืืง ืฉืื ืืฉืื
Whose opinion is this? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, who says: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, done in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays the full cost of the damage even if the ox is innocuous.
ืืืื ืกืืคื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืฉืืื ื ืฉื ืฉื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื
If this is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place.
ืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืืจ ืืื ืืขืื ื ืืืขืจ ืืฉืื ืืืจ ืืืืื
The Gemara asks: What does the baraita mean by saying the property is of neither this one nor that one? If we say the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one at all, but rather it belongs to another person, why should either partner be liable? But donโt I need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: โAnd it consumed in a field of anotherโ (Exodus 22:4), which is understood to mean that the consumed produce belongs to the owner of the field in which the act of consumption occurred; and since the injured party does not have any rights to this place it does not fulfill this condition?
ืืื ืคืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืงืชื ื ืกืืคื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
Rather, it is obvious that the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one together; rather, it belongs to only one of them, i.e., the injured party, and the latter clause teaches: If the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืืชืื ืืจืื ื ืืืืจื ืืฉืื ื ืงืจื ืืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืื ืืืฉืื
If so, in the latter clause we arrive at the opinion of the Rabbis, who say: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, occurring in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays half the value of the damage.
ืจืืฉื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืกืืคื ืจืื ื
The Gemara asks: Could it be that the first clause of the baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis?
ืืื ืืื ืืืจ ืืื ืฉืืืื ืืจื ืืืืื ืฉืื ื ื ืฉืืืง ืืชื ืืชืื ืืชื ืืืชืจืื ืจืืฉื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืกืืคื ืจืื ื
The Gemara answers: Yes, that is as Shmuel said to Rav Yehuda with regard to another mishna (15b): Shinnana, leave the mishna and follow after me and my interpretation that the first clause of the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis. In this baraita as well, the different clauses are taught in accordance with different Sagesโ opinions.
ืจืืื ื ืืฉืืื ืืจืื ืืืจ ืืืื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืคืืจืืช ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฉืืืจืื
The Gemara presents a different interpretation of the baraita: Ravina said in the name of Rava: The entire baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, and what does it mean by saying that the property is of neither this one nor that one? The property does not belong both to this one and that one; rather, it is designated for the use of only one of them, for him to keep his produce there. Only the injured party has the right to keep his produce there. But it is designated both for this one and for that one, for them to keep their oxen there, as both have this right.
ืืืืื ืฉื ืืืื ืื ืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ืืืื ืงืจื ืืืื ืื ืจืฉืืช ืืจืืื
Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating, the property is considered to be the courtyard of the injured party; therefore, the one responsible for the damage is liable to pay for the damage. By contrast, with regard to damage of the category of Goring, since they both have the right to keep their oxen there, the property is considered to be like a public domain, and therefore even Rabbi Tarfon agrees that if oneโs innocuous ox causes damage there one is liable for only half the value of the damage.
ืื ืืื ืืจืืขื ืฉืืฉื ืืื
The Gemara asks: If that is so, does the baraita list four principles? There are only three. In other words, according to the way Ravina explains the latter clause, i.e., the fourth principle, it does not teach anything that is not already known from the first three principles, as the fact that one is liable for Eating and Trampling in property designated for the use of the injured party is explicitly stated in the first principle, and the fact that one is liable for only half the cost of the damage in a case of Goring in a jointly owned courtyard is expressed in the third principle.
ืืืจ ืจื ื ืืื ืืจ ืืฆืืง
Rav Naแธฅman bar Yitzแธฅak said:
ืฉืืฉื ืืืืืช ืืืจืืข ืืงืืืืช
There are only three distinct principles, but they are listed as four cases because they apply in four different places.
ืืชื ืืณ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืคื ื ืืืช ืืื ืืขื ืคื ืขืืื ืื ื ืืืจืื ืื ื ืืจืืช ืืื ืฉืื ืืืื ืื ืืง ืืื ืืืง ืืืืืืง ืืชืฉืืืืื
MISHNA: The determination of payment of damages is made by monetary appraisal. One pays with items worth money. This halakha applies before a court. And it is based upon the testimony of witnesses who are free men, i.e., men who are not Canaanite slaves, and who are members of the covenant, i.e., Jews. And women are included in the halakhot of damages in the same way as men. And both the injured party and the one liable for the damage are involved in the payment. The Gemara will explicate each of these principles.
ืืืณ ืืื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ
GEMARA: What is the meaning of: The determination of payment of damages is made by monetary appraisal?
ืืืจ ืจื ืืืืื ืฉืื ืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืืกืฃ
Rav Yehuda says: This appraisal of the damage caused should be made only in terms of the monetary value of the damage.
ืชื ืื ื ืืื ืืชื ื ืจืื ื ืคืจื ืฉืืืืงื ืืืืช ืืืืืช ืฉืืืืงื ืคืจื ืืื ืืืืจืื ืชืฆื ืคืจื ืืืืืช ืืืืืช ืืคืจื ืืื ืฉืืื ืืืชื ืืืืื
The Gemara notes: We learn, in this mishna, this halakha that the Sages taught explicitly: In a case in which a cow damaged a cloak, and the cloak injured the cow, e.g., the cow tread on it, thereby damaging it, and it became entangled in the cowโs legs, causing the cow to trip, one does not say that it may be presumed that the damage to the cow is offset by the damage to the cloak and the damage to the cloak is offset by the damage to the cow, and therefore the owners of both are exempt from any payment. Rather, the court appraises separately the damage caused to each side in terms of its monetary value and only then calculates to what extent the liabilities offset each other.
ืฉืื ืืกืฃ
ยง The mishna continues: With items worth money; to what does this refer?
ืืชื ื ืจืื ื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืื ืื ืงืื ื ืืืง ืืชืคืก ืืืืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
This is as the Sages taught in a baraita: Payment is made with items worth money. This teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. But if the injured party proceeded, of his own accord, to seize movable property from the one liable for the damage, the court collects damages for him from those items he seized. According to the baraita, the phrase: Items worth money, is referring to land.
ืืืจ ืืจ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืื ืืฉืืข
The Gemara analyzes this: The Master said in the baraita: Payment is made with items worth money. This teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. The phrase: Items worth money, therefore, is used as a term for land. The Gemara asks: From where is this inferred?
ืืืจ ืจืื ืืจ ืขืืื ืืืจ ืืฉืื ืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ื ืืื ืืืจ ืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืื ืขืืืื ืืฉืืจืืช ื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืื
Rabba bar Ulla says that the phrase: Items worth money, is referring to something that is worth any amount of money, and what is that? It is something that is not subject to price fraud, which is the halakha with regard to land. Unlike the sale of movable property, the sale of land is valid irrespective of the sum for which the land is sold. The Gemara challenges this explanation: But slaves and documents are also not subject to price fraud, and yet these are not included in the phrase: Items worth money, as the court does not collect payments of damages from them.
ืืื ืืืจ ืจืื ืืจ ืขืืื ืืืจ ืื ืงื ื ืืืกืฃ ืขืืืื ืืฉืืจืืช ื ืื ื ืงื ืื ืืืกืฃ
Rather, Rabba bar Ulla said: The phrase is referring to something that is acquired with money, which is the halakha with regard to land but not with regard to movable property (see Kiddushin 26a). The Gemara rejects this explanation: But slaves and documents are also acquired with money.
ืืื ืืืจ ืจื ืืฉื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ื ืืืืื ืืกืฃ ื ืื ืื
Rather, Rav Ashi said: The phrase is referring to something that is worth money, but is not actually money, and all these things, i.e., movable property, slaves, and documents, are considered like actual money because they have the defining characteristics of money in that they are valuable and portable.
ืจืื ืืื ืจื ืืืืื ืืจ ืืื ื ื ืืจื ืืื ื ืืจืื ืืจื ืืืืฉืข ืชื ื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืืชื ืื ืืฉืื ืืจืืืช ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืคืืื ืกืืืื
Rav Yehuda bar แธคinnana raises a contradiction to the opinion of Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua: In the baraita cited earlier it is taught: The mishnaโs statement that payment is made with items worth money teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. But it is taught also in another baraita: The verse states the superfluous phrase: โHe shall recompenseโ (Exodus 21:34), to include items worth money, and even bran, a relatively inferior commodity, is accepted as a valid form of payment. The first baraita teaches that only land is a valid form of payment, whereas the second baraita teaches that one may pay even with movable property.
ืืื ืืืื ืขืกืงืื ื ืืืชืื
The Gemara answers: With what are we dealing here in the baraita that teaches that the court collects damages only from land? We are dealing with a case where damages are collected from orphans whose father was liable to pay damages. The baraita teaches that the liability inherited by the orphans applies only to the land they inherited from their father as it is liened to their fatherโs debts.
ืื ืืืชืื ืืืื ืกืืคื ืื ืงืื ื ืืืง ืืชืคืก ืืืืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื ืื ืืืชืื ืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
The Gemara asks: If the baraita is referring to collection from orphans, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: But if the injured party proceeded, of his own accord, to seize movable property from the one liable for the damage, the court collects damages for him from those items he seized. The Gemara asks: If, as suggested, the baraita is referring to collection from orphans, why does the court collect damages for him from those items he seized, as the fatherโs movable property is not liened to his debts?
ืืืืืจ ืจืื ืืืจ ืจื ื ืืื ืฉืชืคืก ืืืืื ืืื ื ืื ืฉืชืคืก ืืืืื
The Gemara answers: The case is like that which Rava says that Rav Naแธฅman says with regard to a mishna (Ketubot 84a), which teaches that creditors who seize movable property as payment for a debt may keep those items: That is referring to a case in which he seized the property while the debtor was still alive. Here also, the baraita is referring to a case in which he seized the property while the one liable for the damage was still alive.
ืืคื ื ืืืช ืืื
ยง The mishna continues: Before a court. What does this phrase mean?
ืคืจื ืืืืืจ ื ืืกืื ืืืืจ ืื ืืืื ืืืืช ืืื
This phrase should be understood as a qualification of the previous phrase in the mishna that teaches, as the Gemara explained, that a court collects damages only from land. The mishna then teaches that the court collects only from land that is still in the possession of the one liable for the damage when he appears in court. This excludes a case where the one liable for the damage sells his landed property and afterward goes to court. Since at the time of the hearing he no longer owns land, the court does not collect damages from it.
ืฉืืข ืืื ื ืืื ืืืืจ ื ืืกืื ืืืืจ ืื ืื ืืืืช ืืื ืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
The Gemara challenges this: Should we conclude from the mishna that if one borrows money and then sells his landed property, and afterward he goes to the court, the court does not collect the loan from those landed properties that he sold? This is certainly incorrect, as the creditor has a lien on the debtorโs property from the time that he borrows the money.
ืืื ืคืจื ืืืืช ืืื ืืืืืืืช
Rather, the phrase: Before a court, should be understood as an independent clause that excludes a court of non-ordained judges [hedyotot] from judging all types of damages, as the payment for certain types of damage is considered to be a fine, and only expert judges who have been ordained are able to impose fines.
ืขื ืคื ืขืืื
ยง The mishna continues: Payment is made based upon the testimony of witnesses.
ืคืจื ืืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืฉืืื ืคืืืจ
The Gemara explains: This clause is stated to exclude from liability one who admits he is liable to pay a fine, even if witnesses come afterward and testify that he is liable to pay it. The mishna teaches that he is nevertheless exempt, due to his admission.
ืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืืจ ืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืคืืืจ ืืื ืืืื ืืืืจ ืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืืืจ
The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says: One who admits he is liable to pay a fine is exempt, even if witnesses come afterward and testify to his liability. But according to the one who says: With regard to one who admits he is liable to pay a fine and then witnesses come afterward and testify that he is guilty, he is liable to pay the fine, what is there to say in explanation of this clause of the mishna?
ืกืืคื ืืฆืืจืื ืืื
The Gemara answers: This clause does not serve to exclude some other case; rather, it is needed to preface the latter clause that teaches that the only people who are accepted as witnesses in cases of damages are both
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Bava Kamma 14
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ืืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื
but he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage. Accordingly, the lender remains responsible for his ox, and if it caused damage to the borrowerโs ox the lender is liable, as in any other case in which his ox caused damage.
ืื ืืื ืืืื ืกืืคื ื ืคืจืฆื ืืืืื ืื ืฉืคืจืฆืื ืืกืืื ืืืฆืชื ืืืืืงื ืคืืืจ ืื ืืืื ืืืื ืื ืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื
The Gemara asks: If that is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: If the ox was safely enclosed and a wall broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, the bailee is exempt from liability. The Gemara infers: If it broke open during the day and then caused damage, he is liable. The Gemara asks: According to the interpretation offered in explanation of the previous clause, the baraita concerns a case in which one borrowed an ox but did not undertake the responsibility to prevent it from causing damage. If so, how can the latter clause imply that there are cases in which he is liable? If he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage, he should never be liable for the damage that it caused.
ืืื ืงืืืจ ืื ืงืื ืขืืื ืฉืืืจืช ื ืืงืื ืืืื ื ืคืจืฆื ืืืืื ืื ืฉืคืจืฆืื ืืกืืื ืืืฆืชื ืืืืืงื ืคืืืจ
The Gemara answers that the latter clause of the baraita concerns a different case than that of the previous clause. This is what the latter clause of the baraita is saying: If, by contrast, the borrower did undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lenderโs ox to prevent it from causing damage, if it causes damage, the borrower is liable. But if the ox was safely enclosed and the wall enclosing it broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, he is exempt.
ืืื ื ืืื ืชื ื ืจื ืืืกืฃ ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืคืื ืืง ืืืื ืืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืชืืืืชื ืืจืื ืืืขืืจ
The Gemara returns to its prior discussion of the mishnaโs statement concerning property designated for the joint use of the injured party and the one liable for the damage. The Gemara cited Rabbi Elazarโs opinion that each partner is exempt from liability for any damage that falls within the categories of Trampling or Eating that their ox caused to the other partnerโs property. The Gemara challenges his opinion: Is that so? But didnโt Rav Yosef teach in a baraita: In a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners, or in an inn [pundak], one is liable for Eating and for Trampling caused by an ox of one partner to the property of the other. It would appear that this baraita is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rabbi Elazar.
ืืืจ ืื ืจืื ืืืขืืจ ืืชืกืืจื ืืชื ืืชื ืื ืื ืคืืืื ืืืชื ืื ืืจืืขื ืืืืืช ืืื ืจืื ืฉืืขืื ืื ืืืขืืจ ืืืืจ ืื ืืงืื ืื ืฉืืื ืจืฉืืช ืื ืืืง ืืื ืืืืืง ืืืื ืืื ืืืืืง ืืื ืื ืืืง ืคืืืจ ืืื
The Gemara answers: Rabbi Elazar could have said to you: But how can you understand that this baraita provides a refutation of my opinion? Are there not baraitot that disagree with regard to this issue? And it is taught in accordance with my opinion in a baraita in the Tosefta (1:9): Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage occurs. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there. If a place is the property of the one liable for the damage and is not the property of the injured party, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for all the damage caused there.
ืืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืืงืขื ืคืืืจ ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืขื ืื ืืืื ืืขื ืื ืืืคื ืืขื ืื ืฉืืื ืืขื ืืจืืืฆื ืืขื ืืืขืืื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
If a place is the property of both this one and that one, e.g., a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is used by the public, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืฉืืื ื ืฉื ืฉื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื ืขื ืื ืืืื ืืขื ืื ืฉืืื ืืขื ืื ืืืคื ืืขื ืืจืืืฆื ืืขื ืืืขืืื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืงืชื ื ืืืืช ืืฆืจ ืืฉืืชืคืื ืืืืงืขื ืคืืืจ ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื
The Gemara notes that in any event the baraita teaches that in a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is jointly owned, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. This baraita supports Rabbi Elazarโs opinion.
ืงืฉืื ืืืืื
The Gemara comments: These baraitot are difficult, as they seem to contradict one another.
ืื ืชื ืื ืืืื ืืืฆืจ ืืืืืืช ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืคืืจืืช ืืื ืืฉืืืจืื ืืืื ืืจื ืืืกืฃ ืืืฆืจ ืืืืืืช ืืคืืจืืช ืืืื ื ืืืืืืช ืืฉืืืจืื ืืืืื ืฉื ืืืื ืื ืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง
The Gemara explains: When that baraita is taught, it is with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the use of both this one and that one, i.e., as partners, for bringing both produce and oxen there. Since both partners have a right to keep their oxen there, they are not liable for any damage their oxen cause in the jointly owned space. That baraita of Rav Yosef is taught with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the purpose of bringing their produce there, but it is not designated for bringing oxen there. Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating caused by one partnerโs ox to the otherโs produce, it is equivalent to a courtyard owned exclusively by the injured party, and therefore he is liable.
ืืืงื ื ืื ืืงืชื ื ืืื ืืืืื ืืคืื ืืง ืืงืชื ื ืืชื ืืืืื ืืืงืขื ืฉืืข ืืื ื
The Gemara notes: In accordance with this explanation, the language of each of these baraitot is also precise, as it teaches here, in the baraita of Rav Yosef, the case of a courtyard that is similar to an inn, where oxen are usually not allowed to be brought, and it teaches there, in the second baraita, the case of a courtyard that is similar to a field in the valley, where oxen are usually allowed to enter. Conclude from it that the Gemaraโs distinction between the two baraitot is correct.
ืืชืงืืฃ ืื ืจืื ืืืจื ืืืื ืืืืืืืช ืืคืืจืืช ืื ืืขืื ื ืืืขืจ ืืฉืื ืืืจ ืืืืื
Rabbi Zeira objects to this interpretation of Rav Yosefโs baraita: Since the courtyard is designated for both of them to keep their produce there, they should not be liable for damage caused by their oxen there, as in order for one to be liable donโt we need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: โAnd it consumed in a field of anotherโ (Exodus 22:4), and since they both have the right to use the courtyard it does not fulfill this condition.
ืืืจ ืืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืืื ื ืืืืืืช ืืฉืืืจืื ืฉืื ืืืจ ืงืจืื ื ืืื
Abaye said to him: Since it is not designated for them to keep oxen there, that is sufficient for it to be termed โa field of another.โ
ืืืจ ืืื ืจื ืืื ืืืืคืชื ืืจืืื ื ืืืื ืืืืชื ืืชื ืื ืคืืืื ืืืืจืื ื ืื ืื ืคืืืื
Given the distinction between the cases discussed in the baraitot, the Gemara reconsiders the dispute between Rav แธคisda and Rabbi Elazar concerning the mishnaโs statement about property whose use is designated for both the injured party and the one liable for the damage. Rav Aแธฅa of Difti said to Ravina: Let us say that from the fact that the baraitot do not disagree, as they are referring to different cases, so too, the amoraโim, i.e., Rav แธคisda and Rabbi Elazar, also do not disagree, as they are similarly referring to these different cases.
ืืืจ ืืื ืืื ืืื ืชืืฆื ืืืืจ ืคืืืื ืืงืืฉืื ืืจืื ืืืจื ืืืคืืจืืงื ืืืืื ืคืืืื
Ravina said to him: Yes, that is correct. And even if you say that they disagree, their dispute does not concern every case of a jointly owned courtyard, as the Gemara had assumed; rather, their dispute concerns specifically a courtyard designated for the use of their produce, but not the use of their oxen. And they disagree whether to accept the difficulty raised by Rabbi Zeira, that such a courtyard cannot be considered โa field of another,โ or whether to accept the resolution of Abaye, that it can be considered โa field of another.โ
ืืืคื ืืจืืขื ืืืืืช ืืื ืจืื ืฉืืขืื ืื ืืืขืืจ ืืืืจ ืื ืืงืื ืื ืฉืืื ืจืฉืืช ืื ืืืง ืืื ืืืืืง ืืืื ืืื
ยง The Gemara returns to the matter itself and analyzes the baraita in the Tosefta cited above. It states: Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage was caused. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there.
ืขื ืืื ืื ืงืชื ื ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืืื ื ืืง
The Gemara infers: The baraita does not teach: One is liable for any [al hakkol] damage caused there, which would suggest that one is liable for all types of damage. Rather, it teaches: One is liable for all [bakkol] the damage caused, which can be translated as: For the full cost of the damage. This indicates that even were oneโs ox considered to be innocuous and caused damage of the category of Goring, which would generally incur liability for half the value of the damage, in this case the owner is liable for the full cost of the damage.
ืื ื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืื ืืืืจ ืืฉืื ื ืงืจื ืืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ื ืืง ืฉืื ืืฉืื
Whose opinion is this? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, who says: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, done in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays the full cost of the damage even if the ox is innocuous.
ืืืื ืกืืคื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฆืจ ืฉืืื ื ืฉื ืฉื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืขื ืืฉื ืืขื ืืจืื
If this is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place.
ืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืืจ ืืื ืืขืื ื ืืืขืจ ืืฉืื ืืืจ ืืืืื
The Gemara asks: What does the baraita mean by saying the property is of neither this one nor that one? If we say the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one at all, but rather it belongs to another person, why should either partner be liable? But donโt I need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: โAnd it consumed in a field of anotherโ (Exodus 22:4), which is understood to mean that the consumed produce belongs to the owner of the field in which the act of consumption occurred; and since the injured party does not have any rights to this place it does not fulfill this condition?
ืืื ืคืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืงืชื ื ืกืืคื ืชื ืืฉืื ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืืืขื ืืฉืื ื ืืง ืฉืื
Rather, it is obvious that the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one together; rather, it belongs to only one of them, i.e., the injured party, and the latter clause teaches: If the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.
ืืชืื ืืจืื ื ืืืืจื ืืฉืื ื ืงืจื ืืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ืืฆื ื ืืง ืืื ืืืฉืื
If so, in the latter clause we arrive at the opinion of the Rabbis, who say: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, occurring in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays half the value of the damage.
ืจืืฉื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืกืืคื ืจืื ื
The Gemara asks: Could it be that the first clause of the baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis?
ืืื ืืื ืืืจ ืืื ืฉืืืื ืืจื ืืืืื ืฉืื ื ื ืฉืืืง ืืชื ืืชืื ืืชื ืืืชืจืื ืจืืฉื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืกืืคื ืจืื ื
The Gemara answers: Yes, that is as Shmuel said to Rav Yehuda with regard to another mishna (15b): Shinnana, leave the mishna and follow after me and my interpretation that the first clause of the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis. In this baraita as well, the different clauses are taught in accordance with different Sagesโ opinions.
ืจืืื ื ืืฉืืื ืืจืื ืืืจ ืืืื ืจืื ืืจืคืื ืืื ืืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืคืืจืืช ืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืฉืืืจืื
The Gemara presents a different interpretation of the baraita: Ravina said in the name of Rava: The entire baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, and what does it mean by saying that the property is of neither this one nor that one? The property does not belong both to this one and that one; rather, it is designated for the use of only one of them, for him to keep his produce there. Only the injured party has the right to keep his produce there. But it is designated both for this one and for that one, for them to keep their oxen there, as both have this right.
ืืืืื ืฉื ืืืื ืื ืืฆืจ ืื ืืืง ืืืื ืงืจื ืืืื ืื ืจืฉืืช ืืจืืื
Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating, the property is considered to be the courtyard of the injured party; therefore, the one responsible for the damage is liable to pay for the damage. By contrast, with regard to damage of the category of Goring, since they both have the right to keep their oxen there, the property is considered to be like a public domain, and therefore even Rabbi Tarfon agrees that if oneโs innocuous ox causes damage there one is liable for only half the value of the damage.
ืื ืืื ืืจืืขื ืฉืืฉื ืืื
The Gemara asks: If that is so, does the baraita list four principles? There are only three. In other words, according to the way Ravina explains the latter clause, i.e., the fourth principle, it does not teach anything that is not already known from the first three principles, as the fact that one is liable for Eating and Trampling in property designated for the use of the injured party is explicitly stated in the first principle, and the fact that one is liable for only half the cost of the damage in a case of Goring in a jointly owned courtyard is expressed in the third principle.
ืืืจ ืจื ื ืืื ืืจ ืืฆืืง
Rav Naแธฅman bar Yitzแธฅak said:
ืฉืืฉื ืืืืืช ืืืจืืข ืืงืืืืช
There are only three distinct principles, but they are listed as four cases because they apply in four different places.
ืืชื ืืณ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืคื ื ืืืช ืืื ืืขื ืคื ืขืืื ืื ื ืืืจืื ืื ื ืืจืืช ืืื ืฉืื ืืืื ืื ืืง ืืื ืืืง ืืืืืืง ืืชืฉืืืืื
MISHNA: The determination of payment of damages is made by monetary appraisal. One pays with items worth money. This halakha applies before a court. And it is based upon the testimony of witnesses who are free men, i.e., men who are not Canaanite slaves, and who are members of the covenant, i.e., Jews. And women are included in the halakhot of damages in the same way as men. And both the injured party and the one liable for the damage are involved in the payment. The Gemara will explicate each of these principles.
ืืืณ ืืื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ
GEMARA: What is the meaning of: The determination of payment of damages is made by monetary appraisal?
ืืืจ ืจื ืืืืื ืฉืื ืื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืืกืฃ
Rav Yehuda says: This appraisal of the damage caused should be made only in terms of the monetary value of the damage.
ืชื ืื ื ืืื ืืชื ื ืจืื ื ืคืจื ืฉืืืืงื ืืืืช ืืืืืช ืฉืืืืงื ืคืจื ืืื ืืืืจืื ืชืฆื ืคืจื ืืืืืช ืืืืืช ืืคืจื ืืื ืฉืืื ืืืชื ืืืืื
The Gemara notes: We learn, in this mishna, this halakha that the Sages taught explicitly: In a case in which a cow damaged a cloak, and the cloak injured the cow, e.g., the cow tread on it, thereby damaging it, and it became entangled in the cowโs legs, causing the cow to trip, one does not say that it may be presumed that the damage to the cow is offset by the damage to the cloak and the damage to the cloak is offset by the damage to the cow, and therefore the owners of both are exempt from any payment. Rather, the court appraises separately the damage caused to each side in terms of its monetary value and only then calculates to what extent the liabilities offset each other.
ืฉืื ืืกืฃ
ยง The mishna continues: With items worth money; to what does this refer?
ืืชื ื ืจืื ื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืื ืื ืงืื ื ืืืง ืืชืคืก ืืืืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
This is as the Sages taught in a baraita: Payment is made with items worth money. This teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. But if the injured party proceeded, of his own accord, to seize movable property from the one liable for the damage, the court collects damages for him from those items he seized. According to the baraita, the phrase: Items worth money, is referring to land.
ืืืจ ืืจ ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืื ืืฉืืข
The Gemara analyzes this: The Master said in the baraita: Payment is made with items worth money. This teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. The phrase: Items worth money, therefore, is used as a term for land. The Gemara asks: From where is this inferred?
ืืืจ ืจืื ืืจ ืขืืื ืืืจ ืืฉืื ืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ื ืืื ืืืจ ืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืื ืขืืืื ืืฉืืจืืช ื ืื ืืื ืืื ืืื ืื
Rabba bar Ulla says that the phrase: Items worth money, is referring to something that is worth any amount of money, and what is that? It is something that is not subject to price fraud, which is the halakha with regard to land. Unlike the sale of movable property, the sale of land is valid irrespective of the sum for which the land is sold. The Gemara challenges this explanation: But slaves and documents are also not subject to price fraud, and yet these are not included in the phrase: Items worth money, as the court does not collect payments of damages from them.
ืืื ืืืจ ืจืื ืืจ ืขืืื ืืืจ ืื ืงื ื ืืืกืฃ ืขืืืื ืืฉืืจืืช ื ืื ื ืงื ืื ืืืกืฃ
Rather, Rabba bar Ulla said: The phrase is referring to something that is acquired with money, which is the halakha with regard to land but not with regard to movable property (see Kiddushin 26a). The Gemara rejects this explanation: But slaves and documents are also acquired with money.
ืืื ืืืจ ืจื ืืฉื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ืืกืฃ ืืื ื ืืืืื ืืกืฃ ื ืื ืื
Rather, Rav Ashi said: The phrase is referring to something that is worth money, but is not actually money, and all these things, i.e., movable property, slaves, and documents, are considered like actual money because they have the defining characteristics of money in that they are valuable and portable.
ืจืื ืืื ืจื ืืืืื ืืจ ืืื ื ื ืืจื ืืื ื ืืจืื ืืจื ืืืืฉืข ืชื ื ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืช ืืื ื ืืงืงืื ืืื ืื ืืกืื ืฉืืฉ ืืื ืืืจืืืช ืืืชื ืื ืืฉืื ืืจืืืช ืฉืื ืืกืฃ ืืืคืืื ืกืืืื
Rav Yehuda bar แธคinnana raises a contradiction to the opinion of Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua: In the baraita cited earlier it is taught: The mishnaโs statement that payment is made with items worth money teaches that the court attends to the collection of damages only in order to collect from property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., land. But it is taught also in another baraita: The verse states the superfluous phrase: โHe shall recompenseโ (Exodus 21:34), to include items worth money, and even bran, a relatively inferior commodity, is accepted as a valid form of payment. The first baraita teaches that only land is a valid form of payment, whereas the second baraita teaches that one may pay even with movable property.
ืืื ืืืื ืขืกืงืื ื ืืืชืื
The Gemara answers: With what are we dealing here in the baraita that teaches that the court collects damages only from land? We are dealing with a case where damages are collected from orphans whose father was liable to pay damages. The baraita teaches that the liability inherited by the orphans applies only to the land they inherited from their father as it is liened to their fatherโs debts.
ืื ืืืชืื ืืืื ืกืืคื ืื ืงืื ื ืืืง ืืชืคืก ืืืืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื ืื ืืืชืื ืืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
The Gemara asks: If the baraita is referring to collection from orphans, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita: But if the injured party proceeded, of his own accord, to seize movable property from the one liable for the damage, the court collects damages for him from those items he seized. The Gemara asks: If, as suggested, the baraita is referring to collection from orphans, why does the court collect damages for him from those items he seized, as the fatherโs movable property is not liened to his debts?
ืืืืืจ ืจืื ืืืจ ืจื ื ืืื ืฉืชืคืก ืืืืื ืืื ื ืื ืฉืชืคืก ืืืืื
The Gemara answers: The case is like that which Rava says that Rav Naแธฅman says with regard to a mishna (Ketubot 84a), which teaches that creditors who seize movable property as payment for a debt may keep those items: That is referring to a case in which he seized the property while the debtor was still alive. Here also, the baraita is referring to a case in which he seized the property while the one liable for the damage was still alive.
ืืคื ื ืืืช ืืื
ยง The mishna continues: Before a court. What does this phrase mean?
ืคืจื ืืืืืจ ื ืืกืื ืืืืจ ืื ืืืื ืืืืช ืืื
This phrase should be understood as a qualification of the previous phrase in the mishna that teaches, as the Gemara explained, that a court collects damages only from land. The mishna then teaches that the court collects only from land that is still in the possession of the one liable for the damage when he appears in court. This excludes a case where the one liable for the damage sells his landed property and afterward goes to court. Since at the time of the hearing he no longer owns land, the court does not collect damages from it.
ืฉืืข ืืื ื ืืื ืืืืจ ื ืืกืื ืืืืจ ืื ืื ืืืืช ืืื ืืื ืืืช ืืื ืืืืื ืื ืืื
The Gemara challenges this: Should we conclude from the mishna that if one borrows money and then sells his landed property, and afterward he goes to the court, the court does not collect the loan from those landed properties that he sold? This is certainly incorrect, as the creditor has a lien on the debtorโs property from the time that he borrows the money.
ืืื ืคืจื ืืืืช ืืื ืืืืืืืช
Rather, the phrase: Before a court, should be understood as an independent clause that excludes a court of non-ordained judges [hedyotot] from judging all types of damages, as the payment for certain types of damage is considered to be a fine, and only expert judges who have been ordained are able to impose fines.
ืขื ืคื ืขืืื
ยง The mishna continues: Payment is made based upon the testimony of witnesses.
ืคืจื ืืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืฉืืื ืคืืืจ
The Gemara explains: This clause is stated to exclude from liability one who admits he is liable to pay a fine, even if witnesses come afterward and testify that he is liable to pay it. The mishna teaches that he is nevertheless exempt, due to his admission.
ืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืืจ ืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืคืืืจ ืืื ืืืื ืืืืจ ืืืื ืืงื ืก ืืืืจ ืื ืืื ืขืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืืืจ
The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who says: One who admits he is liable to pay a fine is exempt, even if witnesses come afterward and testify to his liability. But according to the one who says: With regard to one who admits he is liable to pay a fine and then witnesses come afterward and testify that he is guilty, he is liable to pay the fine, what is there to say in explanation of this clause of the mishna?
ืกืืคื ืืฆืืจืื ืืื
The Gemara answers: This clause does not serve to exclude some other case; rather, it is needed to preface the latter clause that teaches that the only people who are accepted as witnesses in cases of damages are both