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The gemara brings several questions against Rav Chisda – is one permitted to bake/cook from Yom Tov to Shabbat on a Torah level – if so, why did one not be able to bake the showbread on Yom Tov that falls on erev Shabbat or the two breads that one makes on Shavuot? The gemara questions Raba from other sources that have cases where one does one act (or two) and can be liable for receiving multiple sets of lashes. On each list, there is an item that can be removed from the list based on laws of “ho’il,” like plowing on Yom Tov, since it can be used for covering the blood, or making a fire to cook something forbidden to eat, since it can be used for cooking something permitted. Rava brings answers which are also questioned.

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Pesachim 47

נֶאֱכָל לְתִשְׁעָה, לַעֲשָׂרָה, וּלְאַחַד עָשָׂר — לֹא פָּחוֹת וְלֹא יוֹתֵר. כֵּיצַד? כְּדַרְכּוֹ, לְתִשְׁעָה. נֶאֱפֶה בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָל בְּשַׁבָּת לְתִשְׁעָה. חָל יוֹם טוֹב לִהְיוֹת בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָל לְשַׁבָּת לַעֲשָׂרָה. שְׁנֵי יָמִים טוֹבִים שֶׁל רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה — נֶאֱכָל לְשַׁבָּת לְאַחַד עָשָׂר, לְפִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה לֹא אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת וְלֹא אֶת הַיּוֹם טוֹב. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ צוֹרְכֵי שַׁבָּת נַעֲשִׂין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, אַמַּאי לָא דָּחֵי יוֹם טוֹב?

may be eaten on the ninth, tenth, or eleventh days from when it is baked, no less and no more. How so? In its usual manner it is eaten on the ninth day after it was baked, as it is baked on Shabbat eve and it is eaten on the next Shabbat, on the ninth day from when it was baked. If a Festival occurs on Shabbat eve, the shewbread is not baked on the Festival day but rather on Thursday, the eve of the Festival. Consequently, it is eaten on Shabbat of the next week, on the tenth day from when it was baked. If the two Festival days of Rosh HaShana preceded Shabbat, the shewbread is baked on Wednesday, Rosh HaShana eve, and it is eaten on the next Shabbat, on the eleventh day from when it was baked, because baking the shewbread does not override Shabbat or a Festival. Rabba asks: If you say that whatever one needs for Shabbat may be done on a Festival, why doesn’t the baking of this bread override the Festival? Since the shewbread is eaten on Shabbat, it should be considered food that one is permitted to prepare during the Festival.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁבוּת קְרוֹבָה — הִתִּירוּ. שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה — לֹא הִתִּירוּ.

Rav Ḥisda said to him: They permitted one to override the rabbinic decree in the Temple only with regard to baking on a Festival for the proximate Shabbat, i.e., Shabbat that immediately follows the Festival. However, they did not permit one to override the rabbinic decree to prepare for a distant Shabbat, namely Shabbat of the next week.

וּלְרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, דְּאָמַר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם טוֹב וְאֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם צוֹם, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר?

The Gemara asks: And according to Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, who said in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, that the baking of the shewbread overrides a Festival but does not override the fast day of Yom Kippur, what can be said? Apparently, the issue is the subject of a tannaitic dispute between Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, who contends that it is permissible to prepare the shewbread during a Festival, and the Rabbis, who prohibit it.

בְּהָא פְּלִיגִי: מָר סָבַר שְׁבוּת קְרוֹבָה הִתִּירוּ, שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה לֹא הִתִּירוּ. וּמָר סָבַר: שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה נָמֵי הִתִּירוּ.

The Gemara explains that they do not dispute the basic principle. Rather, this is the point over which they disagree: One Sage, i.e., the Rabbis, holds that they permitted one to override the rabbinic decree only to prepare for the proximate Shabbat, but they did not permit one to override the rabbinic decree to prepare for a distant Shabbat. Therefore, the baking of the shewbread does not override the Festival. And one Sage, Rabbi Shimon, holds that they also permitted one to override the rabbinic decree in order to prepare for a distant Shabbat.

מֵתִיב רַב מָרִי: שְׁתֵּי הַלֶּחֶם אֵינָן נֶאֱכָלוֹת לֹא פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁנַיִם, וְלֹא יוֹתֵר עַל שְׁלֹשָׁה. כֵּיצַד? נֶאֱפוֹת עֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — נֶאֱכָלוֹת לְיוֹם טוֹב לִשְׁנַיִם. חָל יוֹם טוֹב לִהְיוֹת אַחַר הַשַּׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָלוֹת לְיוֹם טוֹב לִשְׁלֹשָׁה, לְפִי שֶׁאֵינָהּ דּוֹחָה לֹא אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת וְלֹא אֶת הַיּוֹם טוֹב. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ צוֹרְכֵי שַׁבָּת נַעֲשִׂין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, הַשְׁתָּא דְּשַׁבָּת בְּיוֹם טוֹב שְׁרֵי, דְּיוֹם טוֹב בְּיוֹם טוֹב מִיבַּעְיָא?!

Rav Mari raised an objection: The two loaves of bread that are brought as a communal offering on Shavuot are eaten by the priests no sooner than the second day and no later than the third day from when they are baked. How so? They are generally baked on the eve of the Festival and eaten on the Festival, the second day from their baking. If the Festival occurs after Shabbat, they are baked on Friday and they are eaten on the third day from the baking, because the baking of the two loaves does not override Shabbat or the Festival. Rav Mari asks: If you say that whatever one needs for Shabbat may be done on a Festival, now that it is permitted to engage in the necessary preparations for Shabbat on a Festival, is it necessary to mention that it is permitted to bake for the Festival itself on the Festival? As such, why doesn’t the baking of the two loaves override the Festival?

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם דְּאָמַר קְרָא ״לָכֶם״ — ״לָכֶם״ וְלֹא לְגָבוֹהַּ.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, in the case of the two loaves, as the verse says: “No kind of labor shall be done on them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done for you” (Exodus 12:16). This indicates that it is permitted to cook and bake only “for you,” i.e., for human consumption, and not for the One above, namely for the Temple service.

וּלְרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, דְּאָמַר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם טוֹב, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? סָבַר לַהּ כְּאַבָּא שָׁאוּל, דְּאָמַר: ״לָכֶם״ — ״לָכֶם״ וְלֹא לְגוֹיִם.

The Gemara asks: And according to Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, who said in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, that baking the shewbread overrides the Festival, what can be said? How does he understand the term: For you? The Gemara answers: He holds in accordance with the opinion of Abba Shaul, who said that this verse should be understood in the following manner: Cooking and baking are permitted for you, and not for gentiles; for the sake of the Temple service, however, they are permitted.

שְׁלַח לֵיהּ רַב חִסְדָּא לְרַבָּה בְּיַד רַב אַחָא בַּר רַב הוּנָא: מִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״? וְהָא תְּנַן: יֵשׁ חוֹרֵשׁ תֶּלֶם אֶחָד וְחַיָּיבִין עָלֶיהָ מִשּׁוּם שְׁמוֹנָה לָאוִין: הַחוֹרֵשׁ בְּשׁוֹר וַחֲמוֹר, וְהֵן מוּקְדָּשִׁים, וְכִלְאַיִם בַּכֶּרֶם,

Rav Ḥisda sent a question to Rabba with Rav Aḥa bar Rav Huna: Do we say the principle: Since, etc.? Didn’t we learn in a mishna: There is a case in which one plows one furrow and is liable for violating eight prohibitions with this single act? The mishna explains that this applies to one who plows with an ox and a donkey, thereby violating the prohibition: “You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together” (Deuteronomy 22:10), and they were consecrated, in which case plowing with them constitutes misuse of consecrated property. If his plowing aids the growth of food crops in a vineyard, he has transgressed a third prohibition.

וּשְׁבִיעִית, בְּיוֹם טוֹב, כֹּהֵן וְנָזִיר אַבֵּית הַטּוּמְאָה. וְאִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״ — אַחֲרִישָׁה לָא לִיחַיַּיב, הוֹאִיל וְחָזֵי לְכִיסּוּי דַּם צִיפּוֹר.

And he is plowing during the Sabbatical year, when agricultural labor is prohibited, on a Festival. Additionally, the person plowing is a priest and a nazirite, and he is plowing a place of ritual impurity, i.e., a burial site. It is prohibited for a priest and a nazirite to become impure by walking over the burial spot of a corpse. Therefore, the one plowing commits two transgressions simply by traversing the field. And if we say the principle: Since, etc., he should not be liable for plowing on a Festival, since the dirt he loosens is fit for covering the blood of a bird. One who slaughters a bird or a non-domesticated animal is required by Torah law to cover the blood. Since it is possible that one will need to slaughter many such animals or birds and will not have enough dirt to cover their blood, his plowing may end up facilitating covering the blood. Therefore, it should not be considered a prohibited labor on the Festival.

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא בַּר שְׁמוּאֵל: בַּאֲבָנִים מְקוּרְזָלוֹת.

The Gemara answers that Rav Pappa bar Shmuel said: The case is one in which a person plowed sharp stones, i.e., clods of dirt that have hardened and are unfit to be used to cover blood.

רְאוּיוֹת לְכוֹתְשָׁן! וּכְתִישָׁה בְּיוֹם טוֹב מִי שְׁרֵי?! רְאוּיוֹת לְכוֹתְשָׁן כִּלְאַחַר יָד! בְּצוּנְמָא.

The Gemara asks: Aren’t these clods of dirt fit to be crushed and used to cover blood? The Gemara responds: Is crushing permitted on a Festival? The Gemara counters: But they are fit to be crushed in an unusual manner, which is not prohibited by Torah law. The Gemara answers: The case is one in which a person plowed hard, rocky soil, which cannot be crushed.

צוּנְמָא בַּר זְרִיעָה?! צוּנְמָא מִלְּמַעְלָה, וְעָפָר תִּיחוּחַ מִלְּמַטָּה. וְתִיפּוֹק לֵיהּ מִשּׁוּם עָפָר תִּיחוּחַ!

The Gemara asks: Is hard soil fit for planting? The case under discussion is one in which a person was preparing the ground in order to plant food crops in a vineyard. The Gemara answers: In this case, there was hard soil above and fertile, loose soil underneath, into which seeds could be planted. The Gemara rejects this answer: Derive that the act of plowing would be permitted in that case due to the loose soil, which is suitable for covering blood.

אֶלָּא אָמַר מָר בַּר רַב אָשֵׁי: בְּטִינָא. וְטִינָא בַּר זְרִיעָה הוּא?! בִּמְתוּנְתָּא.

Rather, Mar bar Rav Ashi said: The case is one in which a person plowed mud, which is not fit for covering blood. The Gemara asks rhetorically: Is mud fit for planting? The Gemara answers: The case is one in which a person plowed moist earth, which is suitable for planting but which cannot be used to cover blood.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: הַמְבַשֵּׁל גִּיד הַנָּשֶׁה בְּחָלָב בְּיוֹם טוֹב וְאוֹכְלוֹ — לוֹקֶה חָמֵשׁ. לוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם מְבַשֵּׁל גִּיד בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם אוֹכֵל גִּיד, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם מְבַשֵּׁל בָּשָׂר בְּחָלָב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם אוֹכֵל בָּשָׂר בְּחָלָב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם הַבְעָרָה. וְאִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״ — אַהַבְעָרָה לָא לִיחַיַּיב, הוֹאִיל דַּחֲזֵי לֵיהּ לְצׇרְכּוֹ!

Abaye raised an objection to Rabba’s acceptance of the principle: Since, etc. One who cooks the sciatic nerve in milk on a Festival and eats it is flogged for five distinct prohibitions. How so? He is flogged due to the prohibition of cooking the sciatic nerve on a Festival, which is prohibited because the sciatic nerve is unfit for consumption; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of eating the sciatic nerve, which is explicitly prohibited by the Torah; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of cooking meat in milk; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of eating meat cooked in milk; and lastly, he is flogged due to the prohibition of kindling a fire unnecessarily on a Festival. And if we say the principle: Since, etc., he should not be liable for kindling a fire unnecessarily, since the fire is fit for use in attending to his legitimate Festival needs, e.g., cooking permitted foods.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַפֵּיק הַבְעָרָה, וְעַיֵּיל גִּיד הַנָּשֶׁה שֶׁל נְבֵילָה.

Rabba said to him: Remove the prohibition of kindling a fire from this list and add the prohibition of eating a sciatic nerve from an animal carcass that was not properly slaughtered.

וְהָתָנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: לוֹקִין שְׁתַּיִם עַל אֲכִילָתוֹ, וְשָׁלֹשׁ עַל בִּישּׁוּלוֹ. וְאִי אִיתָא, שָׁלֹשׁ עַל אֲכִילָתוֹ מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ!

Abaye responded: Didn’t Rabbi Ḥiyya teach with regard to this mishna: He is flogged twice for his eating, as he violated the prohibitions of eating the sciatic nerve and eating meat cooked in milk, and three times for his cooking, as he violated the prohibitions of kindling a fire, cooking on a Festival, and cooking meat in milk? And if it is so, that the case is one in which the sciatic nerve was taken from an animal carcass, Rabbi Ḥiyya should have stated that he is flogged three times for his eating, as he violated the prohibitions of eating a sciatic nerve, eating meat cooked in milk, and eating an animal carcass.

אֶלָּא: אַפֵּיק הַבְעָרָה, וְעַיֵּיל עֲצֵי מוּקְצֶה.

Rather, Rabba said: Remove the prohibition of kindling a fire and add in its place the prohibition of using wood that has been set aside from use on the Festival.

וּמוּקְצֶה דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא הוּא? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין, דִּכְתִיב: ״וְהָיָה בַּיּוֹם הַשִּׁשִּׁי וְהֵכִינוּ אֵת אֲשֶׁר יָבִיאוּ״. וְאַזְהָרָתַהּ מֵהָכָא, מִ״לֹּא תַעֲשֶׂה כׇל מְלָאכָה״.

The Gemara asks: Is the prohibition against utilizing set-aside material prohibited by Torah law, such that a person is flogged for violating this prohibition? He said to him: Yes, as it is written: “And it shall come to pass on the sixth day that they shall prepare that which they bring in” (Exodus 16:5). This verse teaches that anything that has not been prepared before the Festival is considered to be set-aside, and it is prohibited to utilize it. This verse indicates that utilizing set-aside objects is prohibited; however, it does not formulate this prohibition as a negative commandment. Therefore, the Gemara adds that the warning indicating that it is a negative commandment is from here: “You shall not perform any labor” (Exodus 20:10). This general statement pertaining to Shabbat includes utilizing objects that were not set aside for use before Shabbat.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ, וְהָא אַתְּ הוּא דַּאֲמַרְתְּ: בְּעַאי מִינֵּיהּ מֵרַב חִסְדָּא, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: בְּעַאי מִינֵּיהּ מֵרַב הוּנָא: הֵבִיא שֶׂה מֵאֲפָר, וּשְׁחָטוֹ תָּמִיד בְּיוֹם טוֹב, מַהוּ?

Abaye said to him: Wasn’t it you who said: I raised a dilemma before Rav Ḥisda, and some say the correct version is: I raised a dilemma before Rav Huna: If one brought a lamb from the meadow, and the lamb is therefore set-aside because it was not designated for use before the Festival, and he slaughtered it as the daily offering on a Festival, what is the halakha? Is it permissible to offer this sacrifice?

וְאַתְּ אָמְרַתְּ לַן, (אָמַר לִי) עֲלַהּ: ״שֶׂה״ — וְלֹא הַבְּכוֹר.

And you said to us: He said to me about this issue that the answer can be derived from a verse in Ezekiel pertaining to communal offerings. The verse states: “And one lamb of the flock, out of two hundred, from the well-watered pastures of Israel” (Ezekiel 45:15). This verse is expounded in the following manner: The word lamb is referring to either a male or female lamb, but not to a firstborn, as that status applies only to male sheep.

״אַחַת״ — וְלֹא מַעֲשֵׂר.

The word one indicates that a sacrifice may not be brought from the animal tithe. The lamb must be one that can stand alone. An animal designated as tithe is always part of a group, as it is the tenth animal to leave the pen; therefore, it cannot be offered as a communal offering.

״מִן הַצֹּאן״ — וְלֹא הַפַּלְגָּס.

The expression: Of the flock indicates that only some animals of the flock may be offered, whereas one may not offer a palges, which is no longer a lamb but is not yet considered a ram.

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Michelle has been an inspiration for years, but I only really started this cycle after the moving and uplifting siyum in Jerusalem. It’s been an wonderful to learn and relearn the tenets of our religion and to understand how the extraordinary efforts of a band of people to preserve Judaism after the fall of the beit hamikdash is still bearing fruits today. I’m proud to be part of the chain!

Judith Weil
Judith Weil

Raanana, Israel

Ive been learning Gmara since 5th grade and always loved it. Have always wanted to do Daf Yomi and now with Michelle Farber’s online classes it made it much easier to do! Really enjoying the experience thank you!!

Lisa Lawrence
Lisa Lawrence

Neve Daniel, Israel

I’ve been wanting to do Daf Yomi for years, but always wanted to start at the beginning and not in the middle of things. When the opportunity came in 2020, I decided: “this is now the time!” I’ve been posting my journey daily on social media, tracking my progress (#DafYomi); now it’s fully integrated into my daily routines. I’ve also inspired my partner to join, too!

Joséphine Altzman
Joséphine Altzman

Teaneck, United States

I started learning at the beginning of this Daf Yomi cycle because I heard a lot about the previous cycle coming to an end and thought it would be a good thing to start doing. My husband had already bought several of the Koren Talmud Bavli books and they were just sitting on the shelf, not being used, so here was an opportunity to start using them and find out exactly what was in them. Loving it!

Caroline Levison
Caroline Levison

Borehamwood, United Kingdom

Since I started in January of 2020, Daf Yomi has changed my life. It connects me to Jews all over the world, especially learned women. It makes cooking, gardening, and folding laundry into acts of Torah study. Daf Yomi enables me to participate in a conversation with and about our heritage that has been going on for more than 2000 years.

Shira Eliaser
Shira Eliaser

Skokie, IL, United States

With Rabbanit Dr. Naomi Cohen in the Women’s Talmud class, over 30 years ago. It was a “known” class and it was accepted, because of who taught. Since then I have also studied with Avigail Gross-Gelman and Dr. Gabriel Hazut for about a year). Years ago, in a shiur in my shul, I did know about Persians doing 3 things with their clothes on. They opened the shiur to woman after that!

Sharon Mink
Sharon Mink

Haifa, Israel

I started learning Dec 2019 after reading “If all the Seas Were Ink”. I found
Daily daf sessions of Rabbanit Michelle in her house teaching, I then heard about the siyum and a new cycle starting wow I am in! Afternoon here in Sydney, my family and friends know this is my sacred time to hide away to live zoom and learn. Often it’s hard to absorb and relate then a gem shines touching my heart.

Dianne Kuchar
Dianne Kuchar

Dover Heights, Australia

I heard the new Daf Yomi cycle was starting and I was curious, so I searched online for a women’s class and was pleasently surprised to find Rabanit Michelle’s great class reviews in many online articles. It has been a splendid journey. It is a way to fill my days with Torah, learning so many amazing things I have never heard before during my Tanach learning at High School. Thanks so much .

Martha Tarazi
Martha Tarazi

Panama, Panama

I started to listen to Michelle’s podcasts four years ago. The minute I started I was hooked. I’m so excited to learn the entire Talmud, and think I will continue always. I chose the quote “while a woman is engaged in conversation she also holds the spindle”. (Megillah 14b). It reminds me of all of the amazing women I learn with every day who multi-task, think ahead and accomplish so much.

Julie Mendelsohn
Julie Mendelsohn

Zichron Yakov, Israel

After all the hype on the 2020 siyum I became inspired by a friend to begin learning as the new cycle began.with no background in studying Talmud it was a bit daunting in the beginning. my husband began at the same time so we decided to study on shabbat together. The reaction from my 3 daughters has been fantastic. They are very proud. It’s been a great challenge for my brain which is so healthy!

Stacey Goodstein Ashtamker
Stacey Goodstein Ashtamker

Modi’in, Israel

I started my journey on the day I realized that the Siyum was happening in Yerushalayim and I was missing out. What? I told myself. How could I have not known about this? How can I have missed out on this opportunity? I decided that moment, I would start Daf Yomi and Nach Yomi the very next day. I am so grateful to Hadran. I am changed forever because I learn Gemara with women. Thank you.

Linda Brownstein
Linda Brownstein

Mitspe, Israel

I’ve been studying Talmud since the ’90s, and decided to take on Daf Yomi two years ago. I wanted to attempt the challenge of a day-to-day, very Jewish activity. Some days are so interesting and some days are so boring. But I’m still here.
Wendy Rozov
Wendy Rozov

Phoenix, AZ, United States

I started learning at the beginning of this cycle more than 2 years ago, and I have not missed a day or a daf. It’s been challenging and enlightening and even mind-numbing at times, but the learning and the shared experience have all been worth it. If you are open to it, there’s no telling what might come into your life.

Patti Evans
Patti Evans

Phoenix, Arizona, United States

Jill Shames
Jill Shames

Jerusalem, Israel

In my Shana bet at Migdal Oz I attended the Hadran siyum hash”as. Witnessing so many women so passionate about their Torah learning and connection to God, I knew I had to begin with the coming cycle. My wedding (June 24) was two weeks before the siyum of mesechet yoma so I went a little ahead and was able to make a speech and siyum at my kiseh kallah on my wedding day!

Sharona Guggenheim Plumb
Sharona Guggenheim Plumb

Givat Shmuel, Israel

I am a Reform rabbi and took Talmud courses in rabbinical school, but I knew there was so much more to learn. It felt inauthentic to serve as a rabbi without having read the entire Talmud, so when the opportunity arose to start Daf Yomi in 2020, I dove in! Thanks to Hadran, Daf Yomi has enriched my understanding of rabbinic Judaism and deepened my love of Jewish text & tradition. Todah rabbah!

Rabbi Nicki Greninger
Rabbi Nicki Greninger

California, United States

I started learning Jan 2020 when I heard the new cycle was starting. I had tried during the last cycle and didn’t make it past a few weeks. Learning online from old men didn’t speak to my soul and I knew Talmud had to be a soul journey for me. Enter Hadran! Talmud from Rabbanit Michelle Farber from a woman’s perspective, a mother’s perspective and a modern perspective. Motivated to continue!

Keren Carter
Keren Carter

Brentwood, California, United States

Pesachim 47

נֶאֱכָל לְתִשְׁעָה, לַעֲשָׂרָה, וּלְאַחַד עָשָׂר — לֹא פָּחוֹת וְלֹא יוֹתֵר. כֵּיצַד? כְּדַרְכּוֹ, לְתִשְׁעָה. נֶאֱפֶה בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָל בְּשַׁבָּת לְתִשְׁעָה. חָל יוֹם טוֹב לִהְיוֹת בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָל לְשַׁבָּת לַעֲשָׂרָה. שְׁנֵי יָמִים טוֹבִים שֶׁל רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה — נֶאֱכָל לְשַׁבָּת לְאַחַד עָשָׂר, לְפִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה לֹא אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת וְלֹא אֶת הַיּוֹם טוֹב. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ צוֹרְכֵי שַׁבָּת נַעֲשִׂין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, אַמַּאי לָא דָּחֵי יוֹם טוֹב?

may be eaten on the ninth, tenth, or eleventh days from when it is baked, no less and no more. How so? In its usual manner it is eaten on the ninth day after it was baked, as it is baked on Shabbat eve and it is eaten on the next Shabbat, on the ninth day from when it was baked. If a Festival occurs on Shabbat eve, the shewbread is not baked on the Festival day but rather on Thursday, the eve of the Festival. Consequently, it is eaten on Shabbat of the next week, on the tenth day from when it was baked. If the two Festival days of Rosh HaShana preceded Shabbat, the shewbread is baked on Wednesday, Rosh HaShana eve, and it is eaten on the next Shabbat, on the eleventh day from when it was baked, because baking the shewbread does not override Shabbat or a Festival. Rabba asks: If you say that whatever one needs for Shabbat may be done on a Festival, why doesn’t the baking of this bread override the Festival? Since the shewbread is eaten on Shabbat, it should be considered food that one is permitted to prepare during the Festival.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁבוּת קְרוֹבָה — הִתִּירוּ. שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה — לֹא הִתִּירוּ.

Rav Ḥisda said to him: They permitted one to override the rabbinic decree in the Temple only with regard to baking on a Festival for the proximate Shabbat, i.e., Shabbat that immediately follows the Festival. However, they did not permit one to override the rabbinic decree to prepare for a distant Shabbat, namely Shabbat of the next week.

וּלְרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, דְּאָמַר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם טוֹב וְאֵינוֹ דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם צוֹם, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר?

The Gemara asks: And according to Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, who said in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, that the baking of the shewbread overrides a Festival but does not override the fast day of Yom Kippur, what can be said? Apparently, the issue is the subject of a tannaitic dispute between Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, who contends that it is permissible to prepare the shewbread during a Festival, and the Rabbis, who prohibit it.

בְּהָא פְּלִיגִי: מָר סָבַר שְׁבוּת קְרוֹבָה הִתִּירוּ, שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה לֹא הִתִּירוּ. וּמָר סָבַר: שְׁבוּת רְחוֹקָה נָמֵי הִתִּירוּ.

The Gemara explains that they do not dispute the basic principle. Rather, this is the point over which they disagree: One Sage, i.e., the Rabbis, holds that they permitted one to override the rabbinic decree only to prepare for the proximate Shabbat, but they did not permit one to override the rabbinic decree to prepare for a distant Shabbat. Therefore, the baking of the shewbread does not override the Festival. And one Sage, Rabbi Shimon, holds that they also permitted one to override the rabbinic decree in order to prepare for a distant Shabbat.

מֵתִיב רַב מָרִי: שְׁתֵּי הַלֶּחֶם אֵינָן נֶאֱכָלוֹת לֹא פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁנַיִם, וְלֹא יוֹתֵר עַל שְׁלֹשָׁה. כֵּיצַד? נֶאֱפוֹת עֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — נֶאֱכָלוֹת לְיוֹם טוֹב לִשְׁנַיִם. חָל יוֹם טוֹב לִהְיוֹת אַחַר הַשַּׁבָּת — נֶאֱכָלוֹת לְיוֹם טוֹב לִשְׁלֹשָׁה, לְפִי שֶׁאֵינָהּ דּוֹחָה לֹא אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת וְלֹא אֶת הַיּוֹם טוֹב. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ צוֹרְכֵי שַׁבָּת נַעֲשִׂין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, הַשְׁתָּא דְּשַׁבָּת בְּיוֹם טוֹב שְׁרֵי, דְּיוֹם טוֹב בְּיוֹם טוֹב מִיבַּעְיָא?!

Rav Mari raised an objection: The two loaves of bread that are brought as a communal offering on Shavuot are eaten by the priests no sooner than the second day and no later than the third day from when they are baked. How so? They are generally baked on the eve of the Festival and eaten on the Festival, the second day from their baking. If the Festival occurs after Shabbat, they are baked on Friday and they are eaten on the third day from the baking, because the baking of the two loaves does not override Shabbat or the Festival. Rav Mari asks: If you say that whatever one needs for Shabbat may be done on a Festival, now that it is permitted to engage in the necessary preparations for Shabbat on a Festival, is it necessary to mention that it is permitted to bake for the Festival itself on the Festival? As such, why doesn’t the baking of the two loaves override the Festival?

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם דְּאָמַר קְרָא ״לָכֶם״ — ״לָכֶם״ וְלֹא לְגָבוֹהַּ.

The Gemara answers: It is different there, in the case of the two loaves, as the verse says: “No kind of labor shall be done on them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done for you” (Exodus 12:16). This indicates that it is permitted to cook and bake only “for you,” i.e., for human consumption, and not for the One above, namely for the Temple service.

וּלְרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, דְּאָמַר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן הַסְּגָן: דּוֹחֶה אֶת יוֹם טוֹב, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? סָבַר לַהּ כְּאַבָּא שָׁאוּל, דְּאָמַר: ״לָכֶם״ — ״לָכֶם״ וְלֹא לְגוֹיִם.

The Gemara asks: And according to Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, who said in the name of Rabbi Shimon, son of the deputy High Priest, that baking the shewbread overrides the Festival, what can be said? How does he understand the term: For you? The Gemara answers: He holds in accordance with the opinion of Abba Shaul, who said that this verse should be understood in the following manner: Cooking and baking are permitted for you, and not for gentiles; for the sake of the Temple service, however, they are permitted.

שְׁלַח לֵיהּ רַב חִסְדָּא לְרַבָּה בְּיַד רַב אַחָא בַּר רַב הוּנָא: מִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״? וְהָא תְּנַן: יֵשׁ חוֹרֵשׁ תֶּלֶם אֶחָד וְחַיָּיבִין עָלֶיהָ מִשּׁוּם שְׁמוֹנָה לָאוִין: הַחוֹרֵשׁ בְּשׁוֹר וַחֲמוֹר, וְהֵן מוּקְדָּשִׁים, וְכִלְאַיִם בַּכֶּרֶם,

Rav Ḥisda sent a question to Rabba with Rav Aḥa bar Rav Huna: Do we say the principle: Since, etc.? Didn’t we learn in a mishna: There is a case in which one plows one furrow and is liable for violating eight prohibitions with this single act? The mishna explains that this applies to one who plows with an ox and a donkey, thereby violating the prohibition: “You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together” (Deuteronomy 22:10), and they were consecrated, in which case plowing with them constitutes misuse of consecrated property. If his plowing aids the growth of food crops in a vineyard, he has transgressed a third prohibition.

וּשְׁבִיעִית, בְּיוֹם טוֹב, כֹּהֵן וְנָזִיר אַבֵּית הַטּוּמְאָה. וְאִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״ — אַחֲרִישָׁה לָא לִיחַיַּיב, הוֹאִיל וְחָזֵי לְכִיסּוּי דַּם צִיפּוֹר.

And he is plowing during the Sabbatical year, when agricultural labor is prohibited, on a Festival. Additionally, the person plowing is a priest and a nazirite, and he is plowing a place of ritual impurity, i.e., a burial site. It is prohibited for a priest and a nazirite to become impure by walking over the burial spot of a corpse. Therefore, the one plowing commits two transgressions simply by traversing the field. And if we say the principle: Since, etc., he should not be liable for plowing on a Festival, since the dirt he loosens is fit for covering the blood of a bird. One who slaughters a bird or a non-domesticated animal is required by Torah law to cover the blood. Since it is possible that one will need to slaughter many such animals or birds and will not have enough dirt to cover their blood, his plowing may end up facilitating covering the blood. Therefore, it should not be considered a prohibited labor on the Festival.

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא בַּר שְׁמוּאֵל: בַּאֲבָנִים מְקוּרְזָלוֹת.

The Gemara answers that Rav Pappa bar Shmuel said: The case is one in which a person plowed sharp stones, i.e., clods of dirt that have hardened and are unfit to be used to cover blood.

רְאוּיוֹת לְכוֹתְשָׁן! וּכְתִישָׁה בְּיוֹם טוֹב מִי שְׁרֵי?! רְאוּיוֹת לְכוֹתְשָׁן כִּלְאַחַר יָד! בְּצוּנְמָא.

The Gemara asks: Aren’t these clods of dirt fit to be crushed and used to cover blood? The Gemara responds: Is crushing permitted on a Festival? The Gemara counters: But they are fit to be crushed in an unusual manner, which is not prohibited by Torah law. The Gemara answers: The case is one in which a person plowed hard, rocky soil, which cannot be crushed.

צוּנְמָא בַּר זְרִיעָה?! צוּנְמָא מִלְּמַעְלָה, וְעָפָר תִּיחוּחַ מִלְּמַטָּה. וְתִיפּוֹק לֵיהּ מִשּׁוּם עָפָר תִּיחוּחַ!

The Gemara asks: Is hard soil fit for planting? The case under discussion is one in which a person was preparing the ground in order to plant food crops in a vineyard. The Gemara answers: In this case, there was hard soil above and fertile, loose soil underneath, into which seeds could be planted. The Gemara rejects this answer: Derive that the act of plowing would be permitted in that case due to the loose soil, which is suitable for covering blood.

אֶלָּא אָמַר מָר בַּר רַב אָשֵׁי: בְּטִינָא. וְטִינָא בַּר זְרִיעָה הוּא?! בִּמְתוּנְתָּא.

Rather, Mar bar Rav Ashi said: The case is one in which a person plowed mud, which is not fit for covering blood. The Gemara asks rhetorically: Is mud fit for planting? The Gemara answers: The case is one in which a person plowed moist earth, which is suitable for planting but which cannot be used to cover blood.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: הַמְבַשֵּׁל גִּיד הַנָּשֶׁה בְּחָלָב בְּיוֹם טוֹב וְאוֹכְלוֹ — לוֹקֶה חָמֵשׁ. לוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם מְבַשֵּׁל גִּיד בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם אוֹכֵל גִּיד, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם מְבַשֵּׁל בָּשָׂר בְּחָלָב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם אוֹכֵל בָּשָׂר בְּחָלָב, וְלוֹקֶה מִשּׁוּם הַבְעָרָה. וְאִי אָמְרִינַן ״הוֹאִיל״ — אַהַבְעָרָה לָא לִיחַיַּיב, הוֹאִיל דַּחֲזֵי לֵיהּ לְצׇרְכּוֹ!

Abaye raised an objection to Rabba’s acceptance of the principle: Since, etc. One who cooks the sciatic nerve in milk on a Festival and eats it is flogged for five distinct prohibitions. How so? He is flogged due to the prohibition of cooking the sciatic nerve on a Festival, which is prohibited because the sciatic nerve is unfit for consumption; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of eating the sciatic nerve, which is explicitly prohibited by the Torah; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of cooking meat in milk; and he is flogged due to the prohibition of eating meat cooked in milk; and lastly, he is flogged due to the prohibition of kindling a fire unnecessarily on a Festival. And if we say the principle: Since, etc., he should not be liable for kindling a fire unnecessarily, since the fire is fit for use in attending to his legitimate Festival needs, e.g., cooking permitted foods.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַפֵּיק הַבְעָרָה, וְעַיֵּיל גִּיד הַנָּשֶׁה שֶׁל נְבֵילָה.

Rabba said to him: Remove the prohibition of kindling a fire from this list and add the prohibition of eating a sciatic nerve from an animal carcass that was not properly slaughtered.

וְהָתָנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: לוֹקִין שְׁתַּיִם עַל אֲכִילָתוֹ, וְשָׁלֹשׁ עַל בִּישּׁוּלוֹ. וְאִי אִיתָא, שָׁלֹשׁ עַל אֲכִילָתוֹ מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ!

Abaye responded: Didn’t Rabbi Ḥiyya teach with regard to this mishna: He is flogged twice for his eating, as he violated the prohibitions of eating the sciatic nerve and eating meat cooked in milk, and three times for his cooking, as he violated the prohibitions of kindling a fire, cooking on a Festival, and cooking meat in milk? And if it is so, that the case is one in which the sciatic nerve was taken from an animal carcass, Rabbi Ḥiyya should have stated that he is flogged three times for his eating, as he violated the prohibitions of eating a sciatic nerve, eating meat cooked in milk, and eating an animal carcass.

אֶלָּא: אַפֵּיק הַבְעָרָה, וְעַיֵּיל עֲצֵי מוּקְצֶה.

Rather, Rabba said: Remove the prohibition of kindling a fire and add in its place the prohibition of using wood that has been set aside from use on the Festival.

וּמוּקְצֶה דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא הוּא? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין, דִּכְתִיב: ״וְהָיָה בַּיּוֹם הַשִּׁשִּׁי וְהֵכִינוּ אֵת אֲשֶׁר יָבִיאוּ״. וְאַזְהָרָתַהּ מֵהָכָא, מִ״לֹּא תַעֲשֶׂה כׇל מְלָאכָה״.

The Gemara asks: Is the prohibition against utilizing set-aside material prohibited by Torah law, such that a person is flogged for violating this prohibition? He said to him: Yes, as it is written: “And it shall come to pass on the sixth day that they shall prepare that which they bring in” (Exodus 16:5). This verse teaches that anything that has not been prepared before the Festival is considered to be set-aside, and it is prohibited to utilize it. This verse indicates that utilizing set-aside objects is prohibited; however, it does not formulate this prohibition as a negative commandment. Therefore, the Gemara adds that the warning indicating that it is a negative commandment is from here: “You shall not perform any labor” (Exodus 20:10). This general statement pertaining to Shabbat includes utilizing objects that were not set aside for use before Shabbat.

אֲמַר לֵיהּ, וְהָא אַתְּ הוּא דַּאֲמַרְתְּ: בְּעַאי מִינֵּיהּ מֵרַב חִסְדָּא, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: בְּעַאי מִינֵּיהּ מֵרַב הוּנָא: הֵבִיא שֶׂה מֵאֲפָר, וּשְׁחָטוֹ תָּמִיד בְּיוֹם טוֹב, מַהוּ?

Abaye said to him: Wasn’t it you who said: I raised a dilemma before Rav Ḥisda, and some say the correct version is: I raised a dilemma before Rav Huna: If one brought a lamb from the meadow, and the lamb is therefore set-aside because it was not designated for use before the Festival, and he slaughtered it as the daily offering on a Festival, what is the halakha? Is it permissible to offer this sacrifice?

וְאַתְּ אָמְרַתְּ לַן, (אָמַר לִי) עֲלַהּ: ״שֶׂה״ — וְלֹא הַבְּכוֹר.

And you said to us: He said to me about this issue that the answer can be derived from a verse in Ezekiel pertaining to communal offerings. The verse states: “And one lamb of the flock, out of two hundred, from the well-watered pastures of Israel” (Ezekiel 45:15). This verse is expounded in the following manner: The word lamb is referring to either a male or female lamb, but not to a firstborn, as that status applies only to male sheep.

״אַחַת״ — וְלֹא מַעֲשֵׂר.

The word one indicates that a sacrifice may not be brought from the animal tithe. The lamb must be one that can stand alone. An animal designated as tithe is always part of a group, as it is the tenth animal to leave the pen; therefore, it cannot be offered as a communal offering.

״מִן הַצֹּאן״ — וְלֹא הַפַּלְגָּס.

The expression: Of the flock indicates that only some animals of the flock may be offered, whereas one may not offer a palges, which is no longer a lamb but is not yet considered a ram.

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