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August 29, 2022 | ב׳ באלול תשפ״ב

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Ketubot 54

Today’s daf is sponsored by Leah Brick in loving memory of her great-niece, Nava Tova, who was named after her mother, daughter of Liora and Josh Cherney.” Bet Elul would have been her first birthday. May her memory be a comfort to her parents.”

Do the following women receive sustenance from their father’s estate: the daughter born to a couple who is forbidden by rabbinic law to be married (shniyot l’arayot), the daughter born to a couple who was betrothed, and the daughter born to a woman who was married to the man who raped her? A stipulation of the ketuba is that the woman be able to reside in the house of the husband even after his death. Since the language used is a “house,” they derive that if the heirs live in a hut, they are not required to have her live with them. Does this also mean that they are not required to sustain her in that case? There are various opinions brought regarding how it is determined when the orphans no longer need to give the widow money for sustenance. Is it from when she accepts a marriage proposal from someone else, when someone proposed but she doesn’t accept it as she doesn’t specifically like him, but she is interested in remarrying, when she engages in prostitution, when she puts on makeup, or when she claims her ketuba in court. In the Mishna it had stated varying customs between Jerusalem and the Galilee and Judea about whether or not the orphans could decide they no longer wanted to pay the widow’s sustenance. In Babylonia different places ruled differently. Rav and Shmuel disagree regarding a widow or a hired worker about whether or not their clothing is deducted from their ketuba/salary. Rabbi Yochanan’s relatives’ father had a wife who ate a lot of food. They were worried that if she became widowed, it would be a drain on their inheritance so he suggested the father designate a specific piece of land for her to be used for her sustenance in the event that he die. Reish Lakish vehemently disagreed and wouldn’t allow them to implement this solution as he didn’t think it was effective halachically. In the end, Rabbi Yochanan modified his position. The Mishna states that one who wants to, can add money to the 200 or 100 zuz promised to the woman in the ketuba. It was necessary to state this as one may think this was limited so as not to embarrass one who is unable to add. There is a debate about whether a woman gets her ketuba money if she was widowed or divorce from a betrothal. Can the woman forgo part of the amount of her ketuba by writing that she received part of the money already, even if she really hadn’t? Any additional sums committed to the wife in the ketuba or stipulations have the same status as the ketuba. What is the relevance of this?

כיון דלית לה כתובה לית לה מזוני או דלמא אמה דעבדא איסורא קנסוה רבנן איהי דלא עבדא איסורא לא קנסוה רבנן תיקו


Once again the Gemara explains the sides of the dilemma: Since the Sages penalized the mother and declared that she does not have a marriage contract, the daughter does not have sustenance either, as her sustenance is guaranteed by her mother’s marriage contract. Or perhaps, with regard to her mother, who violated a prohibition, the Sages penalized her by depriving her of her marriage contract, whereas in the case of the daughter, who did not violate a prohibition, the Sages did not penalize her. Once again the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


בעי רבא בת ארוסה יש לה מזונות או אין לה מזונות כיון דאית לה כתובה אית לה או דלמא כיון דלא תקינו רבנן כתובה עד שעת נישואין לית לה תיקו:


Rava raises a dilemma: In the case of the daughter of a betrothed woman, i.e., a man betrothed a woman, fathered a daughter with her, and then died, does the daughter have the right to receive sustenance from his estate, or does she not have the right to receive sustenance? Since the mother has a marriage contract, as in this case the man wrote her a marriage contract after betrothing her, it may be argued that the daughter has the right to receive sustenance. Or perhaps, since the Sages did not enact any requirement for a man to provide his wife with a marriage contract until the time of marriage, the stipulations of the marriage contract do not apply until then, and therefore the daughter of this woman does not have the right to receive sustenance. Again, the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


בעי רב פפא בת אנוסה יש לה מזונות או אין לה מזונות אליבא דרבי יוסי ברבי יהודה לא תיבעי לך דאמר יש לה כתובה מנה


Rav Pappa raises a dilemma: With regard to the daughter of a raped woman, i.e., a man raped a young woman, married her, had a child, and died, does she have the right to receive sustenance from her father’s estate or does she not have the right to receive sustenance from his estate? The Gemara comments: According to the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, do not raise this dilemma, as he said that a raped woman has a marriage contract of one hundred dinars, and therefore she is entitled to the stipulations of a marriage contract, one of which is that if she has a daughter with her husband, the daughter receives sustenance from the husband’s estate.


כי תיבעי לך אליבא דרבנן דאמרי יצא כסף קנסה בכתובתה מאי


Rather, let the dilemma be raised according to the opinion of the Rabbis, who say that the money of her fine fulfilled his obligation to provide her with a marriage contract, i.e., since she has already received the fine in compensation for the rape, she is not entitled to further payment in the form of a marriage contract. According to this opinion, what is the halakha?


כיון דלית לה כתובה לית לה מזוני או דלמא כתובה טעמא מאי כדי שלא תהא קלה בעיניו להוציאה והא לא מצי מפיק לה תיקו:


The Gemara elaborates: It may be argued that since the mother does not have a marriage contract, the daughter does not have the right to receive sustenance from her father’s estate. Or perhaps one should consider the following: What is the reason that the marriage contract was enacted? So that his wife will not be demeaned in his eyes such that he will easily divorce her. And this one, his rape victim, he cannot divorce her by Torah law, as it is stated: “He may not send her away all his days” (Deuteronomy 22:29). It was therefore unnecessary for the Sages to require that he provide the woman with a marriage contract. However, the reasons for the stipulations included in a marriage contract, e.g., that his daughter receives sustenance from his estate, still apply in this case. Consequently, the Sages stipulated that these provisions still be granted. Yet again the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


את תהא יתבא בביתי וכו׳: תני רב יוסף בביתי ולא בביקתי אבל מזוני אית לה מר בר רב אשי אמר אפילו מזוני נמי לית לה ולית הלכתא כמר בר רב אשי


§ The mishna taught that one of the stipulations of a marriage contract is: You will sit in my house and be sustained from my property all your days as a widow. Rav Yosef taught: In my house, and not in my hovel [bikati]. If there is no room for her in his house, the heirs are not obligated to allow her to stay there. However, even in this case, she has the right to receive her sustenance from the heirs. Mar bar Rav Ashi said: She does not even have the right to receive her sustenance, as she is entitled to sustenance only when she lives in her husband’s house. If she resides elsewhere, for whatever reason, she does not receive this payment. The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Mar bar Rav Ashi.


אמר רב נחמן אמר שמואל תבעוה להנשא ונתפייסה אין לה מזונות הא לא נתפייסה יש לה מזונות אמר רב ענן לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דמר שמואל אמרה מחמת פלוני בעלי יש לה מזונות מחמת בני אדם שאינן מהוגנין לה אין לה מזונות


§ Rav Naḥman said that Shmuel said: If a man proposed to marry a widow and she agreed, even if she has not yet married him, she no longer has the right to receive sustenance from the heirs of her previous husband. The Gemara comments: It may be inferred from here that if she had not agreed, even if the man had proposed marriage, she still has the right to receive sustenance. Rav Anan said: It was explained to me personally by Mar Shmuel that the halakha varies in different cases. If she said: I will not marry you due to so-and-so, my deceased husband, i.e., she still feels connected to him, she still has the right to receive sustenance from his estate. However, if she refused the offer because the men who approached her are people who are unsuitable for her, she does not have the right to continue to receive sustenance, as she has shown that in principle she is willing to remarry.


אמר רב חסדא זינתה אין לה מזונות אמר רב יוסף כיחלה ופירכסה אין לה מזונות


Rav Ḥisda said: If she engaged in licentious sexual relations she does not have the right to continue receiving sustenance from his estate, as she is not acting in a manner befitting a widow. Rav Yosef said: If she painted her eyes and dyed her hair she has clearly done so to attract men for the purposes of marriage, and therefore she does not have the right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate.


מאן דאמר זינתה כל שכן כיחלה ופירכסה מאן דאמר כיחלה ופירכסה אבל זינתה אית לה מאי טעמא יצר אנסה


The Gemara comments: According to the one who says that a widow who engaged in licentious sexual relations loses her sustenance, all the more so if she painted her eyes and dyed her hair she loses her sustenance, as her intention to marry is evident. However, according to the one who says that if a widow painted her eyes and dyed her hair she forfeits her right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate, this ruling applies only to that particular situation. However, if she engaged in licentious sexual relations she still has the right to receive sustenance from his estate. What is the reason? Her evil inclination forced her, i.e., she did not make a decision to remarry but merely succumbed to temptation.


ולית הלכתא ככל הני שמעתתא אלא כי הא דאמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל התובעת כתובתה בבית דין אין לה מזונות


The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is not in accordance with all of these statements. Rather, the halakha is, in accordance with that which Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: One who claims the payment specified in her marriage contract in court does not have the right to continue receiving sustenance, as she has thereby demonstrated her desire to sever her ties with her late husband.


ולא והתניא מכרה כתובתה ומשכנה כתובתה עשתה כתובתה אפותיקי לאחר אין לה מזונות הני אין אבל תובעת לא


The Gemara asks: And does she not receive sustenance? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: With regard to one who sold her marriage contract, or used her marriage contract as collateral, or established her marriage contract as designated repayment [apoteiki] for a debt owed to another individual, she does not have the right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate? The Gemara infers from this baraita: In these cases, yes, she forfeits her right to continue to receive sustenance. However, in the case of a widow who claims her marriage contract, no, she does not lose the right to continue to receive sustenance.


הני בין בבית דין בין שלא בבית דין תובעת בבית דין אין שלא בבית דין לא:


The Gemara answers that this argument is incorrect, and one should make the following inference instead: In these cases listed in the baraita, she forfeits her marriage contract whether she took the action in court or whether she did not do so in court. However, with regard to one who claims her marriage contract, if she issues this claim in court, yes, she loses the right to continue to receive her sustenance, but if her claim was not issued in court, no, she has not forfeited this right.


וכך היו אנשי ירושלים וכו׳: אתמר רב אמר הלכה כאנשי יהודה ושמואל אמר הלכה כאנשי גליל


§ The mishna taught: And the residents of Jerusalem and of the Galilee would write the marriage contract in this manner, i.e., that if the woman is widowed, she may remain in her husband’s house and receive her sustenance from his property throughout her widowhood. Conversely, the residents of Judea would write that she may live in his house and be sustained from his estate until the heirs decide to give her the marriage contract. It was stated that the amora’im argued over this issue. Rav said that the halakha is in accordance with the custom of the residents of Judea, and Shmuel said that the halakha is in accordance with the custom of the residents of the Galilee and Jerusalem.


בבל וכל פרוודהא נהוג כרב נהרדעא וכל פרוודהא נהוג כשמואל ההיא בת מחוזא דהות נסיבא לנהרדעא אתו לקמיה דרב נחמן שמעה לקלה דבת מחוזא היא


The Gemara comments: Babylonia and all of its surrounding towns [parvadaha] act in accordance with the opinion of Rav; Neharde’a and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel. The Gemara relates: There was a certain woman of Meḥoza who was married to a man from Neharde’a. They came before Rav Naḥman to discuss her marriage contract. He heard from her voice that she was from Meḥoza, whose residents had a distinctive accent.


אמר להו בבל וכל פרוודהא נהוג כרב אמרו ליה והא לנהרדעא נסיבא אמר להו אי הכי נהרדעא וכל פרוודהא נהוג כשמואל ועד היכא נהרדעא עד היכא דסגי קבא דנהרדעא


Rav Naḥman said to them: Babylonia and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Rav. They said to him: But she is marrying a resident of Neharde’a. He said to them: If so, Neharde’a and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel. The Gemara asks: And until where is the boundary of Neharde’a? Up to any place where the kav measurement of Neharde’a is used. The entire area that utilizes the system of Neharde’a measurements is considered part of its surroundings for the purposes of this halakha.


איתמר אלמנה רב אמר שמין מה שעליה ושמואל אמר אין שמין מה שעליה אמר רב חייא בר אבין וחילופה בלקיט


§ It was stated that the amora’im also argued about the halakha of a widow. Rav said: When she receives the payment of her marriage contract, the court appraises the clothes that are upon her and deducts their value from the payment she receives. And Shmuel said that the court does not appraise the clothes that are upon her. Rav Ḥiyya bar Avin said: And the reverse is the case with regard to a hired worker. With regard to a hired laborer who lived with his employer and the latter bought clothes for him, Rav and Shmuel disagreed as to whether these garments are appraised and their value deducted from the worker’s salary when he leaves his employer’s service. However, in this case Rav claims that his clothes are not appraised, whereas Shmuel maintains that they are appraised.


רב כהנא מתני וכן בלקיט ומנח בה סימנא יתמא וארמלתא שלח ופוק


Conversely, Rav Kahana would teach: And likewise with regard to a hired worker, their respective opinions are the same in this case as well. Rav rules that one appraises the garments, while Shmuel claims that one does not. And he would apply a mnemonic device for Rav’s opinion: An orphan and a widow, disrobe and remove them. In other words, Rav maintains that both a widow and a hired worker, dubbed an orphan due to his typical poverty, should disrobe, as it were, when the court evaluates the payment to which they are entitled.


אמר רב נחמן אף על גב דתנן במתניתין כוותיה דשמואל הלכתא כוותיה דרב דתנן אחד המקדיש נכסיו ואחד המעריך את עצמו אין לו לא בכסות אשתו ולא בכסות בניו ולא בצבע שצבע לשמן ולא בסנדלים חדשים שלקח לשמן


Rav Naḥman said: Even though we learned in a mishna in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel, the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rav. As we learned in a mishna (Arakhin 24a): With regard to both one who consecrates his property and one who valuates himself by donating his fixed value to the Temple, the Temple treasurer has the right to take neither his wife’s clothing, nor his children’s clothing, nor new dyed clothing that he dyed specially for them, even if they have yet to wear them, nor new sandals that he bought for them. This mishna is apparently in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel that a woman’s garments are not considered her husband’s property.


אמר ליה רבא לרב נחמן וכי מאחר דתנן מתניתין כוותיה דשמואל אמאי הלכתא כוותיה דרב אמר ליה לכאורה כשמואל רהיטא כי מעיינת בה הלכתא כוותיה דרב


Rava said to Rav Naḥman: Once we have learned a mishna in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel, why is the halakha in accordance with the opinion of Rav? He said to him: It would seem [likhora] that this mishna agrees with the opinion of Shmuel when it is skimmed through and read superficially. However, when you examine it you will see that the halakha is in fact in accordance with the opinion of Rav.


מאי טעמא כי אקני לה אדעתא למיקם קמיה אדעתא למשקל ולמיפק לא אקני לה:


What is the reason for this? When he bought her these clothes he did so with the intention that she should stand before him and wear them when she is with him. He did not buy them for her with the intention that she should take them and leave him. The reason for the mishna’s ruling is in fact that the husband acquires the clothes on behalf of his wife, but this applies only if she is living with him. Consequently, if she is living with him, the treasurer has no right to them. However, if she leaves him, she has no right to them, in accordance with the opinion of Rav.


כלתא דבי בר אלישיב הוה קא תבעה כתובתה מיתמי הוה קא ממטי להו לבי דינא אמרי זילא לן מילתא דתיזלי הכי אזלא לבישתינהו ואיכסתינהו לכוליה מנא אתו לקמיה דרבינא אמר להו הלכתא כוותיה דרב דאמר אלמנה שמין מה שעליה


§ The Gemara relates: The daughter-in-law of the house of the son of Elyashiv was claiming payment of her marriage contract from the orphans, and she was in the process of bringing them to the court. The orphans said to her: It is demeaning for us that you should go dressed in this manner, in house clothes. We would rather you come in more suitable attire. She went and dressed and covered herself with all of her clothes. They came before Ravina, who said to them: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rav, who said that with regard to a widow, the court appraises the clothes that are upon her. Therefore, the court takes everything she is wearing into account in the calculation of her marriage contract payment.


ההוא דאמר להו נדוניא לברת זל נדוניא אמר רב אידי בר אבין פורנא ליתמי


The Gemara relates another incident: A certain person said to his heirs, in his will: Give a dowry to my daughter. There was an established custom for the amount of money spent on a dowry, including clothing and jewelry. In the meantime, the cost of a dowry depreciated, i.e., all these items could be acquired with less money. The question arose concerning the difference between the amount the father wished to give her when he wrote the will and the sum they paid in practice. Rav Idi bar Avin said: The profit [purna], i.e., this difference in price, goes to the male orphans, not to the daughter.


ההוא דאמר להו


The Gemara cites a related incident: A certain person said to his heirs, in his will:


ארבע מאה זוזי מן חמרא לברת אייקר חמרא אמר רב יוסף רווחא ליתמי


Four hundred dinars of this wine you should give to my daughter, and the wine subsequently appreciated in value, so that some money remained. Rav Yosef said: The gain goes to the male orphans, i.e., they are entitled to the leftover sum.


קריביה דרבי יוחנן הוה להו איתת אבא דהוה קמפסדה מזוני אתו לקמיה דרבי יוחנן אמר להו איזילו ואמרו ליה לאבוכון דנייחד לה ארעא למזונה


The Gemara relates: The relatives of Rabbi Yoḥanan had a wife of their father who would diminish his resources by spending wastefully on her sustenance. They came before Rabbi Yoḥanan to ask his advice. He said to them: Go and say to your father that he should set aside a certain portion of land for her sustenance. If she agrees to accept this land for her sustenance she has thereby relinquished her claim to the rest of the estate.


אתו לקמיה דריש לקיש אמר להו כל שכן שריבה לה מזונות אמרו ליה והא רבי יוחנן לא אמר הכי אמר להו זילו הבו לה ואי לא מפיקנא לכו רבי יוחנן מאונייכו אתו לקמיה דרבי יוחנן אמר להו מה אעשה שכנגדי חלוק עלי


After their father died, they came before Reish Lakish for his ruling, and he said to them: All the more so, he has increased the sources of sustenance available to her. In other words, they are still obligated to support her from their father’s estate according to the lifestyle she is accustomed to living, and if they do not, she may use the field to supplement what they give her. They said to him: But Rabbi Yoḥanan did not say so. He said to them: Go and give her all she requires, and if not, I will remove for you Rabbi Yoḥanan from your ears, i.e., I will treat you so harshly that you will forget Rabbi Yoḥanan’s ruling. They approached Rabbi Yoḥanan to complain, but he said to them: What can I do? I cannot impose my opinion, as a man equal to me disagrees with me.


אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן אמר למזונות ריבה לה מזונות אמר במזונות קצץ לה מזונות:


Rabbi Abbahu said: This matter was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan. All depends on the husband’s description of the land. If he said that he is giving her land for her sustenance, he has thereby increased the sources of sustenance available to her. He will continue to provide her sustenance, but if that amount is insufficient he has also set aside an area of land specifically for that purpose. However, if he said to her that he is designating the land as her sustenance, he has thereby fixed this plot of land as the only source of sustenance available to her, and she can take no more.


הדרן עלך נערה


May we return to you chapter four of Ketubot.


אף על פי שאמרו בתולה גובה מאתים ואלמנה מנה אם רצה להוסיף אפילו מאה מנה יוסיף נתארמלה או נתגרשה בין מן הארוסין בין מן הנשואין גובה את הכל רבי אלעזר בן עזריה אומר מן הנשואין גובה את הכל מן האירוסין בתולה גובה מאתים ואלמנה מנה שלא כתב לה אלא על מנת לכונסה


MISHNA: Although they said as a principle that a virgin collects two hundred dinars as payment for her marriage contract and that a widow collects one hundred dinars, if the husband wishes to add even an additional ten thousand dinars, he may add it. If she is then widowed or divorced, whether from betrothal or whether from marriage, she collects the entire amount, including the additional sum. Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya says: If she is widowed or divorced from marriage, she collects the total amount, but if she is widowed or divorced from betrothal, a virgin collects two hundred dinars and a widow one hundred dinars. This is because he wrote the additional amount for her in the marriage contract only in order to marry her.


רבי יהודה אומר אם רצה כותב לבתולה שטר של מאתים והיא כותבת התקבלתי ממך מנה ולאלמנה מנה והיא כותבת התקבלתי ממך חמשים זוז רבי מאיר אומר כל הפוחת לבתולה ממאתים ולאלמנה ממנה הרי זו בעילת זנות:


Rabbi Yehuda says a related halakha with regard to the marriage contract: If he wishes, he may write for a virgin a document for two hundred dinars as is fitting for her, and she may then write a receipt stating: I received one hundred dinars from you. Even though she has not actually received the money, the receipt serves as a means for her to waive half of the amount due to her for her marriage contract. According to Rabbi Yehuda, the financial commitment in the marriage contract is a right due to the wife, which she may waive if she chooses to do so. And similarly, for a widow he may write one hundred dinars in the contract and she may write a receipt stating: I received from you fifty dinars. However, Rabbi Meir says: It is prohibited to do this, as anyone who reduces the amount of the marriage contract to less than than two hundred dinars for a virgin or one hundred dinars for a widow, this marital relationship amounts to licentious sexual relations because it is as if he did not write any marriage contract at all.


גמ׳ פשיטא מהו דתימא קיצותא עבדו רבנן שלא לבייש את מי שאין לו קא משמע לן:


GEMARA: The mishna states that if he wishes to add to the obligation in the marriage contract, he may do so. The Gemara asks: Isn’t it obvious that if he wishes to add he may do so? The Gemara explains: Lest you say that the Sages instituted a fixed ceiling on the amount one may designate in the marriage contract, in order not to embarrass one who does not have sufficient funds, the mishna therefore teaches us that the Sages were not specific about this. If he wishes to add to the amount, he may do so.


אם רצה להוסיף כו׳: רצה לכתוב לה לא קתני אלא רצה להוסיף מסייע ליה לרבי איבו אמר רבי ינאי דאמר רבי איבו אמר רבי ינאי תנאי כתובה ככתובה דמי


§ The mishna states that if he wishes to add even ten thousand dinars to the marriage contract, he may do so. The Gemara comments: It does not teach: He wishes to write for her, rather: He wishes to add. This language indicates that the additional sum he wrote is added to the marriage contract itself, as opposed to being an independent obligation. This supports the opinion of Rabbi Aivu, who said what Rabbi Yannai said, as Rabbi Aivu said that Rabbi Yannai said: The stipulation in the marriage contract as well as additional amounts he chooses to add to the contract are comparable to the marriage contract itself.


נפקא מינה למוכרת ולמוחלת למורדת


This principle produces a practical difference with regard to many issues. It is relevant to one who sells her marriage contract, indicating that such a sale includes the additional sum of the marriage contract; and to one who waives her marriage contract to her husband or his heirs, teaching that the additional sum is included in this relinquishing of rights to payment of the contract; and to a rebellious woman, from whom the court deducts a specific amount from her marriage contract each week until there is nothing left. These deductions come from the additional sum as well.


ולפוגמת לתובעת ולעוברת על דת


And this principle also results in a practical difference to one who vitiates her marriage contract, as one who states that she received part of the payment for her marriage contract does not receive the remainder without taking an oath, and the additional sum is included in this halakha; to one who demands payment for her marriage contract, as the Sages ruled that from the time she begins to demand the payment she waives her right to further sustenance, and this applies with regard to one who demands the additional sum as well; and to one who violates the precepts of halakha or of Jewish custom, who may be divorced without receiving payment for her marriage contract, including the additional sum.

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כיון דלית לה כתובה לית לה מזוני או דלמא אמה דעבדא איסורא קנסוה רבנן איהי דלא עבדא איסורא לא קנסוה רבנן תיקו


Once again the Gemara explains the sides of the dilemma: Since the Sages penalized the mother and declared that she does not have a marriage contract, the daughter does not have sustenance either, as her sustenance is guaranteed by her mother’s marriage contract. Or perhaps, with regard to her mother, who violated a prohibition, the Sages penalized her by depriving her of her marriage contract, whereas in the case of the daughter, who did not violate a prohibition, the Sages did not penalize her. Once again the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


בעי רבא בת ארוסה יש לה מזונות או אין לה מזונות כיון דאית לה כתובה אית לה או דלמא כיון דלא תקינו רבנן כתובה עד שעת נישואין לית לה תיקו:


Rava raises a dilemma: In the case of the daughter of a betrothed woman, i.e., a man betrothed a woman, fathered a daughter with her, and then died, does the daughter have the right to receive sustenance from his estate, or does she not have the right to receive sustenance? Since the mother has a marriage contract, as in this case the man wrote her a marriage contract after betrothing her, it may be argued that the daughter has the right to receive sustenance. Or perhaps, since the Sages did not enact any requirement for a man to provide his wife with a marriage contract until the time of marriage, the stipulations of the marriage contract do not apply until then, and therefore the daughter of this woman does not have the right to receive sustenance. Again, the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


בעי רב פפא בת אנוסה יש לה מזונות או אין לה מזונות אליבא דרבי יוסי ברבי יהודה לא תיבעי לך דאמר יש לה כתובה מנה


Rav Pappa raises a dilemma: With regard to the daughter of a raped woman, i.e., a man raped a young woman, married her, had a child, and died, does she have the right to receive sustenance from her father’s estate or does she not have the right to receive sustenance from his estate? The Gemara comments: According to the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, do not raise this dilemma, as he said that a raped woman has a marriage contract of one hundred dinars, and therefore she is entitled to the stipulations of a marriage contract, one of which is that if she has a daughter with her husband, the daughter receives sustenance from the husband’s estate.


כי תיבעי לך אליבא דרבנן דאמרי יצא כסף קנסה בכתובתה מאי


Rather, let the dilemma be raised according to the opinion of the Rabbis, who say that the money of her fine fulfilled his obligation to provide her with a marriage contract, i.e., since she has already received the fine in compensation for the rape, she is not entitled to further payment in the form of a marriage contract. According to this opinion, what is the halakha?


כיון דלית לה כתובה לית לה מזוני או דלמא כתובה טעמא מאי כדי שלא תהא קלה בעיניו להוציאה והא לא מצי מפיק לה תיקו:


The Gemara elaborates: It may be argued that since the mother does not have a marriage contract, the daughter does not have the right to receive sustenance from her father’s estate. Or perhaps one should consider the following: What is the reason that the marriage contract was enacted? So that his wife will not be demeaned in his eyes such that he will easily divorce her. And this one, his rape victim, he cannot divorce her by Torah law, as it is stated: “He may not send her away all his days” (Deuteronomy 22:29). It was therefore unnecessary for the Sages to require that he provide the woman with a marriage contract. However, the reasons for the stipulations included in a marriage contract, e.g., that his daughter receives sustenance from his estate, still apply in this case. Consequently, the Sages stipulated that these provisions still be granted. Yet again the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.


את תהא יתבא בביתי וכו׳: תני רב יוסף בביתי ולא בביקתי אבל מזוני אית לה מר בר רב אשי אמר אפילו מזוני נמי לית לה ולית הלכתא כמר בר רב אשי


§ The mishna taught that one of the stipulations of a marriage contract is: You will sit in my house and be sustained from my property all your days as a widow. Rav Yosef taught: In my house, and not in my hovel [bikati]. If there is no room for her in his house, the heirs are not obligated to allow her to stay there. However, even in this case, she has the right to receive her sustenance from the heirs. Mar bar Rav Ashi said: She does not even have the right to receive her sustenance, as she is entitled to sustenance only when she lives in her husband’s house. If she resides elsewhere, for whatever reason, she does not receive this payment. The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is not in accordance with the opinion of Mar bar Rav Ashi.


אמר רב נחמן אמר שמואל תבעוה להנשא ונתפייסה אין לה מזונות הא לא נתפייסה יש לה מזונות אמר רב ענן לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דמר שמואל אמרה מחמת פלוני בעלי יש לה מזונות מחמת בני אדם שאינן מהוגנין לה אין לה מזונות


§ Rav Naḥman said that Shmuel said: If a man proposed to marry a widow and she agreed, even if she has not yet married him, she no longer has the right to receive sustenance from the heirs of her previous husband. The Gemara comments: It may be inferred from here that if she had not agreed, even if the man had proposed marriage, she still has the right to receive sustenance. Rav Anan said: It was explained to me personally by Mar Shmuel that the halakha varies in different cases. If she said: I will not marry you due to so-and-so, my deceased husband, i.e., she still feels connected to him, she still has the right to receive sustenance from his estate. However, if she refused the offer because the men who approached her are people who are unsuitable for her, she does not have the right to continue to receive sustenance, as she has shown that in principle she is willing to remarry.


אמר רב חסדא זינתה אין לה מזונות אמר רב יוסף כיחלה ופירכסה אין לה מזונות


Rav Ḥisda said: If she engaged in licentious sexual relations she does not have the right to continue receiving sustenance from his estate, as she is not acting in a manner befitting a widow. Rav Yosef said: If she painted her eyes and dyed her hair she has clearly done so to attract men for the purposes of marriage, and therefore she does not have the right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate.


מאן דאמר זינתה כל שכן כיחלה ופירכסה מאן דאמר כיחלה ופירכסה אבל זינתה אית לה מאי טעמא יצר אנסה


The Gemara comments: According to the one who says that a widow who engaged in licentious sexual relations loses her sustenance, all the more so if she painted her eyes and dyed her hair she loses her sustenance, as her intention to marry is evident. However, according to the one who says that if a widow painted her eyes and dyed her hair she forfeits her right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate, this ruling applies only to that particular situation. However, if she engaged in licentious sexual relations she still has the right to receive sustenance from his estate. What is the reason? Her evil inclination forced her, i.e., she did not make a decision to remarry but merely succumbed to temptation.


ולית הלכתא ככל הני שמעתתא אלא כי הא דאמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל התובעת כתובתה בבית דין אין לה מזונות


The Gemara concludes: And the halakha is not in accordance with all of these statements. Rather, the halakha is, in accordance with that which Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: One who claims the payment specified in her marriage contract in court does not have the right to continue receiving sustenance, as she has thereby demonstrated her desire to sever her ties with her late husband.


ולא והתניא מכרה כתובתה ומשכנה כתובתה עשתה כתובתה אפותיקי לאחר אין לה מזונות הני אין אבל תובעת לא


The Gemara asks: And does she not receive sustenance? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: With regard to one who sold her marriage contract, or used her marriage contract as collateral, or established her marriage contract as designated repayment [apoteiki] for a debt owed to another individual, she does not have the right to receive sustenance from her husband’s estate? The Gemara infers from this baraita: In these cases, yes, she forfeits her right to continue to receive sustenance. However, in the case of a widow who claims her marriage contract, no, she does not lose the right to continue to receive sustenance.


הני בין בבית דין בין שלא בבית דין תובעת בבית דין אין שלא בבית דין לא:


The Gemara answers that this argument is incorrect, and one should make the following inference instead: In these cases listed in the baraita, she forfeits her marriage contract whether she took the action in court or whether she did not do so in court. However, with regard to one who claims her marriage contract, if she issues this claim in court, yes, she loses the right to continue to receive her sustenance, but if her claim was not issued in court, no, she has not forfeited this right.


וכך היו אנשי ירושלים וכו׳: אתמר רב אמר הלכה כאנשי יהודה ושמואל אמר הלכה כאנשי גליל


§ The mishna taught: And the residents of Jerusalem and of the Galilee would write the marriage contract in this manner, i.e., that if the woman is widowed, she may remain in her husband’s house and receive her sustenance from his property throughout her widowhood. Conversely, the residents of Judea would write that she may live in his house and be sustained from his estate until the heirs decide to give her the marriage contract. It was stated that the amora’im argued over this issue. Rav said that the halakha is in accordance with the custom of the residents of Judea, and Shmuel said that the halakha is in accordance with the custom of the residents of the Galilee and Jerusalem.


בבל וכל פרוודהא נהוג כרב נהרדעא וכל פרוודהא נהוג כשמואל ההיא בת מחוזא דהות נסיבא לנהרדעא אתו לקמיה דרב נחמן שמעה לקלה דבת מחוזא היא


The Gemara comments: Babylonia and all of its surrounding towns [parvadaha] act in accordance with the opinion of Rav; Neharde’a and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel. The Gemara relates: There was a certain woman of Meḥoza who was married to a man from Neharde’a. They came before Rav Naḥman to discuss her marriage contract. He heard from her voice that she was from Meḥoza, whose residents had a distinctive accent.


אמר להו בבל וכל פרוודהא נהוג כרב אמרו ליה והא לנהרדעא נסיבא אמר להו אי הכי נהרדעא וכל פרוודהא נהוג כשמואל ועד היכא נהרדעא עד היכא דסגי קבא דנהרדעא


Rav Naḥman said to them: Babylonia and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Rav. They said to him: But she is marrying a resident of Neharde’a. He said to them: If so, Neharde’a and all of its towns act in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel. The Gemara asks: And until where is the boundary of Neharde’a? Up to any place where the kav measurement of Neharde’a is used. The entire area that utilizes the system of Neharde’a measurements is considered part of its surroundings for the purposes of this halakha.


איתמר אלמנה רב אמר שמין מה שעליה ושמואל אמר אין שמין מה שעליה אמר רב חייא בר אבין וחילופה בלקיט


§ It was stated that the amora’im also argued about the halakha of a widow. Rav said: When she receives the payment of her marriage contract, the court appraises the clothes that are upon her and deducts their value from the payment she receives. And Shmuel said that the court does not appraise the clothes that are upon her. Rav Ḥiyya bar Avin said: And the reverse is the case with regard to a hired worker. With regard to a hired laborer who lived with his employer and the latter bought clothes for him, Rav and Shmuel disagreed as to whether these garments are appraised and their value deducted from the worker’s salary when he leaves his employer’s service. However, in this case Rav claims that his clothes are not appraised, whereas Shmuel maintains that they are appraised.


רב כהנא מתני וכן בלקיט ומנח בה סימנא יתמא וארמלתא שלח ופוק


Conversely, Rav Kahana would teach: And likewise with regard to a hired worker, their respective opinions are the same in this case as well. Rav rules that one appraises the garments, while Shmuel claims that one does not. And he would apply a mnemonic device for Rav’s opinion: An orphan and a widow, disrobe and remove them. In other words, Rav maintains that both a widow and a hired worker, dubbed an orphan due to his typical poverty, should disrobe, as it were, when the court evaluates the payment to which they are entitled.


אמר רב נחמן אף על גב דתנן במתניתין כוותיה דשמואל הלכתא כוותיה דרב דתנן אחד המקדיש נכסיו ואחד המעריך את עצמו אין לו לא בכסות אשתו ולא בכסות בניו ולא בצבע שצבע לשמן ולא בסנדלים חדשים שלקח לשמן


Rav Naḥman said: Even though we learned in a mishna in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel, the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rav. As we learned in a mishna (Arakhin 24a): With regard to both one who consecrates his property and one who valuates himself by donating his fixed value to the Temple, the Temple treasurer has the right to take neither his wife’s clothing, nor his children’s clothing, nor new dyed clothing that he dyed specially for them, even if they have yet to wear them, nor new sandals that he bought for them. This mishna is apparently in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel that a woman’s garments are not considered her husband’s property.


אמר ליה רבא לרב נחמן וכי מאחר דתנן מתניתין כוותיה דשמואל אמאי הלכתא כוותיה דרב אמר ליה לכאורה כשמואל רהיטא כי מעיינת בה הלכתא כוותיה דרב


Rava said to Rav Naḥman: Once we have learned a mishna in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel, why is the halakha in accordance with the opinion of Rav? He said to him: It would seem [likhora] that this mishna agrees with the opinion of Shmuel when it is skimmed through and read superficially. However, when you examine it you will see that the halakha is in fact in accordance with the opinion of Rav.


מאי טעמא כי אקני לה אדעתא למיקם קמיה אדעתא למשקל ולמיפק לא אקני לה:


What is the reason for this? When he bought her these clothes he did so with the intention that she should stand before him and wear them when she is with him. He did not buy them for her with the intention that she should take them and leave him. The reason for the mishna’s ruling is in fact that the husband acquires the clothes on behalf of his wife, but this applies only if she is living with him. Consequently, if she is living with him, the treasurer has no right to them. However, if she leaves him, she has no right to them, in accordance with the opinion of Rav.


כלתא דבי בר אלישיב הוה קא תבעה כתובתה מיתמי הוה קא ממטי להו לבי דינא אמרי זילא לן מילתא דתיזלי הכי אזלא לבישתינהו ואיכסתינהו לכוליה מנא אתו לקמיה דרבינא אמר להו הלכתא כוותיה דרב דאמר אלמנה שמין מה שעליה


§ The Gemara relates: The daughter-in-law of the house of the son of Elyashiv was claiming payment of her marriage contract from the orphans, and she was in the process of bringing them to the court. The orphans said to her: It is demeaning for us that you should go dressed in this manner, in house clothes. We would rather you come in more suitable attire. She went and dressed and covered herself with all of her clothes. They came before Ravina, who said to them: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rav, who said that with regard to a widow, the court appraises the clothes that are upon her. Therefore, the court takes everything she is wearing into account in the calculation of her marriage contract payment.


ההוא דאמר להו נדוניא לברת זל נדוניא אמר רב אידי בר אבין פורנא ליתמי


The Gemara relates another incident: A certain person said to his heirs, in his will: Give a dowry to my daughter. There was an established custom for the amount of money spent on a dowry, including clothing and jewelry. In the meantime, the cost of a dowry depreciated, i.e., all these items could be acquired with less money. The question arose concerning the difference between the amount the father wished to give her when he wrote the will and the sum they paid in practice. Rav Idi bar Avin said: The profit [purna], i.e., this difference in price, goes to the male orphans, not to the daughter.


ההוא דאמר להו


The Gemara cites a related incident: A certain person said to his heirs, in his will:


ארבע מאה זוזי מן חמרא לברת אייקר חמרא אמר רב יוסף רווחא ליתמי


Four hundred dinars of this wine you should give to my daughter, and the wine subsequently appreciated in value, so that some money remained. Rav Yosef said: The gain goes to the male orphans, i.e., they are entitled to the leftover sum.


קריביה דרבי יוחנן הוה להו איתת אבא דהוה קמפסדה מזוני אתו לקמיה דרבי יוחנן אמר להו איזילו ואמרו ליה לאבוכון דנייחד לה ארעא למזונה


The Gemara relates: The relatives of Rabbi Yoḥanan had a wife of their father who would diminish his resources by spending wastefully on her sustenance. They came before Rabbi Yoḥanan to ask his advice. He said to them: Go and say to your father that he should set aside a certain portion of land for her sustenance. If she agrees to accept this land for her sustenance she has thereby relinquished her claim to the rest of the estate.


אתו לקמיה דריש לקיש אמר להו כל שכן שריבה לה מזונות אמרו ליה והא רבי יוחנן לא אמר הכי אמר להו זילו הבו לה ואי לא מפיקנא לכו רבי יוחנן מאונייכו אתו לקמיה דרבי יוחנן אמר להו מה אעשה שכנגדי חלוק עלי


After their father died, they came before Reish Lakish for his ruling, and he said to them: All the more so, he has increased the sources of sustenance available to her. In other words, they are still obligated to support her from their father’s estate according to the lifestyle she is accustomed to living, and if they do not, she may use the field to supplement what they give her. They said to him: But Rabbi Yoḥanan did not say so. He said to them: Go and give her all she requires, and if not, I will remove for you Rabbi Yoḥanan from your ears, i.e., I will treat you so harshly that you will forget Rabbi Yoḥanan’s ruling. They approached Rabbi Yoḥanan to complain, but he said to them: What can I do? I cannot impose my opinion, as a man equal to me disagrees with me.


אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן אמר למזונות ריבה לה מזונות אמר במזונות קצץ לה מזונות:


Rabbi Abbahu said: This matter was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan. All depends on the husband’s description of the land. If he said that he is giving her land for her sustenance, he has thereby increased the sources of sustenance available to her. He will continue to provide her sustenance, but if that amount is insufficient he has also set aside an area of land specifically for that purpose. However, if he said to her that he is designating the land as her sustenance, he has thereby fixed this plot of land as the only source of sustenance available to her, and she can take no more.


הדרן עלך נערה


May we return to you chapter four of Ketubot.


אף על פי שאמרו בתולה גובה מאתים ואלמנה מנה אם רצה להוסיף אפילו מאה מנה יוסיף נתארמלה או נתגרשה בין מן הארוסין בין מן הנשואין גובה את הכל רבי אלעזר בן עזריה אומר מן הנשואין גובה את הכל מן האירוסין בתולה גובה מאתים ואלמנה מנה שלא כתב לה אלא על מנת לכונסה


MISHNA: Although they said as a principle that a virgin collects two hundred dinars as payment for her marriage contract and that a widow collects one hundred dinars, if the husband wishes to add even an additional ten thousand dinars, he may add it. If she is then widowed or divorced, whether from betrothal or whether from marriage, she collects the entire amount, including the additional sum. Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya says: If she is widowed or divorced from marriage, she collects the total amount, but if she is widowed or divorced from betrothal, a virgin collects two hundred dinars and a widow one hundred dinars. This is because he wrote the additional amount for her in the marriage contract only in order to marry her.


רבי יהודה אומר אם רצה כותב לבתולה שטר של מאתים והיא כותבת התקבלתי ממך מנה ולאלמנה מנה והיא כותבת התקבלתי ממך חמשים זוז רבי מאיר אומר כל הפוחת לבתולה ממאתים ולאלמנה ממנה הרי זו בעילת זנות:


Rabbi Yehuda says a related halakha with regard to the marriage contract: If he wishes, he may write for a virgin a document for two hundred dinars as is fitting for her, and she may then write a receipt stating: I received one hundred dinars from you. Even though she has not actually received the money, the receipt serves as a means for her to waive half of the amount due to her for her marriage contract. According to Rabbi Yehuda, the financial commitment in the marriage contract is a right due to the wife, which she may waive if she chooses to do so. And similarly, for a widow he may write one hundred dinars in the contract and she may write a receipt stating: I received from you fifty dinars. However, Rabbi Meir says: It is prohibited to do this, as anyone who reduces the amount of the marriage contract to less than than two hundred dinars for a virgin or one hundred dinars for a widow, this marital relationship amounts to licentious sexual relations because it is as if he did not write any marriage contract at all.


גמ׳ פשיטא מהו דתימא קיצותא עבדו רבנן שלא לבייש את מי שאין לו קא משמע לן:


GEMARA: The mishna states that if he wishes to add to the obligation in the marriage contract, he may do so. The Gemara asks: Isn’t it obvious that if he wishes to add he may do so? The Gemara explains: Lest you say that the Sages instituted a fixed ceiling on the amount one may designate in the marriage contract, in order not to embarrass one who does not have sufficient funds, the mishna therefore teaches us that the Sages were not specific about this. If he wishes to add to the amount, he may do so.


אם רצה להוסיף כו׳: רצה לכתוב לה לא קתני אלא רצה להוסיף מסייע ליה לרבי איבו אמר רבי ינאי דאמר רבי איבו אמר רבי ינאי תנאי כתובה ככתובה דמי


§ The mishna states that if he wishes to add even ten thousand dinars to the marriage contract, he may do so. The Gemara comments: It does not teach: He wishes to write for her, rather: He wishes to add. This language indicates that the additional sum he wrote is added to the marriage contract itself, as opposed to being an independent obligation. This supports the opinion of Rabbi Aivu, who said what Rabbi Yannai said, as Rabbi Aivu said that Rabbi Yannai said: The stipulation in the marriage contract as well as additional amounts he chooses to add to the contract are comparable to the marriage contract itself.


נפקא מינה למוכרת ולמוחלת למורדת


This principle produces a practical difference with regard to many issues. It is relevant to one who sells her marriage contract, indicating that such a sale includes the additional sum of the marriage contract; and to one who waives her marriage contract to her husband or his heirs, teaching that the additional sum is included in this relinquishing of rights to payment of the contract; and to a rebellious woman, from whom the court deducts a specific amount from her marriage contract each week until there is nothing left. These deductions come from the additional sum as well.


ולפוגמת לתובעת ולעוברת על דת


And this principle also results in a practical difference to one who vitiates her marriage contract, as one who states that she received part of the payment for her marriage contract does not receive the remainder without taking an oath, and the additional sum is included in this halakha; to one who demands payment for her marriage contract, as the Sages ruled that from the time she begins to demand the payment she waives her right to further sustenance, and this applies with regard to one who demands the additional sum as well; and to one who violates the precepts of halakha or of Jewish custom, who may be divorced without receiving payment for her marriage contract, including the additional sum.

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