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September 1, 2022 | ה׳ באלול תשפ״ב
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Ketubot 57
Rami bar Hama’s sister-in-law lost her ketuba. Rav Yosef wanted to let it go based on the rabbi’s opinion who thought it was not a problem since anyway a ketuba is a stipulation of the court so she had a way to demand her ketuba money in the end. But Abaye quoted Rav Nachman saying that we hold like Rabbi Meir when he has a takana and he has held that one who stays with a woman without a ketuba is like one who engages in licentious behavior. Rav Dimi and Ravin each had a different tradition about a debate between Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi regarding at what stage do Rabbi Yosi and Rabbi Yehuda disagree about the ability of the woman to verbally forgo her ketuba. However, Rabbi Avahu has a different tradition that Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi don’t disagree – they just used different terms to describe the same thing. Rav Papa accepts Rabbi Avahu’s tradition, but points out a weakness regarding it and says that were it not for Rabbi Avahu’s explanation, he would have preferred to say the debate was between Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rav Dimi and Ravin said the same thing, just used different terms to describe the same thing. What is the amount of time given to the bride and groom to prepare for the wedding after the groom proposes marriage? Twelve months for a woman not previously married and thirty days for a woman previously married. Once that date is reached, the man is obligated to provide sustenance for the woman and if she is betrothed to a kohen, she can eat truma. Can he give her all her food from truma produce or only part, as some of the month she will be impure and cannot eat truma? What are the laws if the time period was split between a man and his yabam (in the event that he died)? The Mishna states that law regarding truma changed over time and now a woman can only eat truma after the chuppa. The twelve-month period derived from the verses about Rivka before she was taken to Yitzchak to be married. If the woman is a minor, she or her father can push off the marriage more than twelve months. Why? If the girl is a minor, the girl or the father can decided can decide not to get married even after the twelve months have past. Why would the father want to do that if the girl is willing to get married? Even though a father can betroth his daughter at a young age and marry her off, Rabbi Abba did not allow this until she is of age to be married. Rav Huna said that a woman who is a bogeret, only gets thirty days to prepare for the wedding. Three sources are brought against him – two are resolved but one is not. By Torah law, a woman betrothed to a kohen can eat truma but the rabbis forbade it. Two reasons are brought – either because her family may come to eat truma by accident, or because the husband may find blemish in the wife and will not in the end marry her.
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אירכס כתובתה אתו לקמיה דרב יוסף אמר להו הכי אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל זו דברי רבי מאיר
Her marriage contract was lost, and the woman and her husband came before Rav Yosef to ask what they should do. He said to them: This is what Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: That ruling, that if someone reduces his wife’s marriage contract by even a small amount, their marriage amounts to licentious sexual intercourse, is the statement of Rabbi Meir. According to that opinion, the husband and wife were forbidden to each other because she was not in possession of a valid marriage contract.
אבל חכמים אומרים משהא אדם את אשתו שתים ושלש שנים בלא כתובה אמר ליה אביי והא אמר רב נחמן אמר שמואל הלכה כרבי מאיר בגזירותיו אי הכי זיל כתוב לה
But the Rabbis say: Since the woman relies on the fact that she will eventually collect payment for her marriage contract, a man may maintain his wife for as long as two or three years without a written marriage contract. There is no urgent need to write a new one, since the husband’s obligation remains intact. Abaye said to him: But didn’t Rav Naḥman say that Shmuel said that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Meir with regard to all of his decrees? Since Rabbi Meir’s statement about marriage contracts was a form of decree, the halakha should be in accordance with his opinion. Rav Yosef responded: If so, go and write her a new marriage contract.
כי אתא רב דימי אמר רבי שמעון בן פזי אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי משום בר קפרא מחלוקת בתחלה אבל בסוף לדברי הכל אינה מוחלת ורבי יוחנן אמר בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי
§ The Gemara relates that when Rav Dimi came from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, he said that Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi said that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said in the name of bar Kappara: This dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei concerning whether one may make a verbal stipulation with a woman to reduce her marriage contract is referring only to the beginning of the process. But with regard to the end, all agree that she cannot waive her rights by verbal confirmation alone, and she must instead write a receipt. And Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Both in this case and in that case there is a dispute. Rabbi Abbahu said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, who said: Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and I do not actually disagree with one another. We merely used different language to express the same halakha.
מאי בתחלה דקאמר רבי יהושע בן לוי תחלת חופה ומאי סוף סוף ביאה וכי קאמינא אנא בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת תחלת חופה וסוף חופה דהיא תחילת ביאה
What is the meaning of the term: To the beginning, which Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said? It is referring to the beginning of the wedding ceremony. And what is meant by the end? It is referring to the end of intercourse; Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi’s opinion is that after the marriage has been consummated, Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei agree that the wife cannot relinquish her rights verbally. And when I said that both in this case and in that case there is a dispute, I was referring to the beginning of the wedding ceremony and the end of the wedding ceremony, which is also the beginning of the time designated for intercourse. Consequently, according to Rav Dimi, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan agree that the dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei applies only until the consummation of the marriage. After that point, all agree that she cannot waive her rights verbally.
כי אתא רבין אמר רבי שמעון בן פזי אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי משום בר קפרא מחלוקת לבסוף אבל בתחלה דברי הכל מוחלת ורבי יוחנן אמר בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי מאי לבסוף דאמר רבי יהושע בן לוי סוף חופה ומאי תחלה תחלת חופה וכי קאמינא אנא בין בזו בין בזו מחלוקת תחלת ביאה וסוף ביאה
When Ravin came from Eretz Yisrael, he reported this matter differently than Rav Dimi did: Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi said that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said in the name of bar Kappara: This dispute is referring only to the end of the process, but with regard to the beginning, all agree that she can waive her rights verbally. And Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Both in this case and in that case there is a dispute. Rabbi Abbahu said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, who said: I and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do not disagree with one another. What is the meaning of: The end, which Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said? The end of the wedding ceremony. And what is the meaning of the beginning? The beginning of the wedding ceremony. And when I said that both in this case and in that case there is a dispute, I was referring to the beginning of intercourse and the end of intercourse.
אמר רב פפא אי לאו דאמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי הוה אמינא רבי יוחנן ורבי יהושע בן לוי פליגי רב דימי ורבין לא פליגי
Consequently, according to Ravin, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan agree that at the time of the wedding ceremony the wife can verbally waive her rights, and the dispute of the tanna’im is referring to the time after the ceremony, which is also the beginning of the time for consummation of the marriage. Rav Pappa said: Had Rabbi Abbahu not said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, that I, i.e. Rabbi Yoḥanan, and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do not disagree with one another, I, i.e., Rav Pappa, would have said that the way to understand the various texts is that Rabbi Yoḥanan and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do disagree with one another, whereas Rav Dimi and Ravin do not disagree with one another, but rather they both cited the same tradition from Eretz Yisrael.
מאי סוף דקאמר רבין סוף חופה ומאי תחלה דקאמר רב דימי תחלת ביאה
I would have explained it in the following manner: What is the meaning of the word end, which Ravin said? It is referring to the end of the wedding ceremony. And what is the meaning of the word beginning, which Rav Dimi said? It is referring to the beginning of the time designated for intercourse, which begins at the end of the wedding ceremony. It would then follow that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan disagreed about the explanation of the dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei, whereas Rav Dimi and Ravin both said the same thing.
מאי קא משמע לן
What is Rav Pappa teaching us? Since he accepts Rabbi Abbahu’s statement, he acknowledges that his alternate way of reading the sources is not correct. What, then, is the point of telling us that he would have explained Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi’s and Rabbi Yoḥanan’s words differently?
הא קא משמע לן דפליגי תרי אמוראי אטעמא דנפשייהו ולא פליגי תרי אמוראי אליבא דחד אמורא:
The Gemara explains: It teaches us this: If we were discussing the meaning of an amoraic dispute about which we have different traditions, it is better to explain that two amora’im disagree with regard to their own reasons and not that two amora’im disagree according to the opinion of another amora, as it is more plausible to say that there is a dispute about logical reasoning than that there is a dispute about the correct transmission of a halakhic tradition. Consequently, had Rabbi Abbahu not declared that he was told otherwise by Rabbi Yoḥanan, it would have been preferable to explain that there is a logical dispute between Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan, rather than saying that the dispute is about the details of the tradition received by Rav Dimi and Ravin.
מתני׳ נותנין לבתולה שנים עשר חודש משתבעה הבעל לפרנס את עצמה וכשם שנותנין לאשה כך נותנין לאיש לפרנס את עצמו ולאלמנה שלשים יום הגיע זמן ולא נישאו אוכלות משלו ואוכלות בתרומה
MISHNA: One gives a virgin twelve months from the time the husband asked to marry her after having betrothed her, in order to prepare herself with clothes and jewelry for the marriage. And just as one gives a woman this amount of time, so too does one give a man an equivalent period of time to prepare himself, as he too needs time to prepare for the marriage. However, in the case of a widow, who already has items available from her previous marriage, she is given only thirty days to prepare. If the appointed time for the wedding arrived and they did not get married due to some delay on the part of the husband, then the woman may partake of his food. And if her husband is a priest, she may partake of teruma, even if she is an Israelite woman.
רבי טרפון אומר נותנין לה הכל תרומה רבי עקיבא אומר מחצה חולין ומחצה תרומה
The tanna’im disagree about the permission granted to a priest to sustain his betrothed with teruma before she is married to him. Rabbi Tarfon says: He may give her all of her required sustenance from teruma. During her periods of impurity, e.g., menstruation, when she cannot partake of teruma, she may sell the teruma to a priest and use the proceeds to buy non-sacred food. Rabbi Akiva says: He must give her half of her needs from non-sacred food and half may be from teruma, so that she can eat from the non-sacred food when she is ritually impure.
היבם אינו מאכיל בתרומה עשתה ששה חדשים בפני הבעל וששה חדשים בפני היבם ואפילו כולן בפני הבעל חסר יום אחד בפני היבם או כולן בפני היבם חסר יום אחד בפני הבעל אינה אוכלת בתרומה
The mishna continues: A priest who is a yavam, i.e., his brother died childless after betrothing a woman, does not enable his yevama to partake of teruma by virtue of her relationship with him. If she had completed six months of the twelve-month wait for marriage under the aegis of the husband, and then he died, and she waited six more months under the aegis of the yavam; or even if she completed all of the necessary time under the aegis of the husband except for one day that she was under the aegis of the yavam; or if she completed all of the necessary time under the aegis of the yavam except for one day that she was under the aegis of the husband, she still may not partake of teruma.
זו משנה ראשונה בית דין של אחריהן אמרו
This set of rulings, concerning the permission granted a betrothed woman whose wedding date has arrived to partake of teruma, is in accordance with the initial version of the mishna. However, a court that convened after them, in a later generation, said:
אין האשה אוכלת בתרומה עד שתכנס לחופה:
A woman may not partake of teruma until she has actually entered the wedding canopy.
גמ׳ מנא הני מילי אמר רב חסדא דאמר קרא ויאמר אחיה ואמה תשב הנערה אתנו ימים או עשור
GEMARA: The Gemara asks: From where are these matters derived, that a virgin is given twelve months to prepare for her wedding? Rav Ḥisda said it is based on the fact that the verse states with regard to Rebecca: “And her brother and mother said: Let the damsel abide with us for days, or ten” (Genesis 24:55).
מאי ימים אילימא תרי יומי משתעי איניש הכי אמרו ליה תרי יומי אמר להו לא אמרו ליה עשרה יומי אלא מאי ימים שנה דכתיב ימים תהיה גאולתו
The Gemara first analyzes the language of the verse: What is the meaning of “days”? If we say two days, the minimum number justifying the use of the plural, does a person really speak like this? Rebecca’s relatives said to Abraham’s servant that they wanted her to stay for two days, after which he said to them no, as he did not want to wait even that long. If so, is it possible that after that they said to him that they wanted her to stay for ten days? Consequently, it is impossible to explain the word “days” as two days and “ten” as ten days. Rather, what is the meaning of “days”? It means: A year, as it is written: “For days he shall have redemption” (Leviticus 25:29), and there it is explained that “days” is referring to a year. Consequently, in the verse “And her brother and mother said: Let the damsel abide with us for days, or ten” (Genesis 24:55), “days” refers to a year, and “ten” refers to a shorter period of similar magnitude, i.e. ten months, in order to prepare for her wedding.
ואימא חדש דכתיב עד חדש ימים אמרי דנין ימים סתם מימים סתם ואין דנין ימים סתם מימים שנאמר בהן חדש
The Gemara asks: And let us say that “days” means a month, as it is written: “But a whole month of days” (Numbers 11:20), and the verse about Rebecca might then have meant that her family wanted to wait for a month, or at least for ten days. They say: One derives the meaning of an unspecified use of the term “days” from another unspecified instance of the term “days,” which means a year. And one does not derive the meaning of an unspecified use of the term “days” from an instance of the term “days,” about which the term “month” is stated. Consequently, it can be derived from the verse that the ordinary amount of time required for a virgin to prepare for marriage is twelve months.
אמר רבי זירא תנא קטנה בין היא ובין אביה יכולין לעכב בשלמא איהי מצי מעכבא אלא אביה אי איהי ניחא לה אביה מאי נפקא ליה מינה סבר השתא לא ידעה למחר מימרדא ונפקא ואתיא ונפלה עילואי
§ Rabbi Zeira said: It was taught in the Tosefta (Ketubot 5:1) with regard to a minor girl: Either she or her father may delay the wedding until she has reached majority. The Gemara asks: Granted, she, the girl herself, may delay the wedding if she feels she is not ready, as she is the one who will be directly affected, but why should her father be allowed to delay her wedding? If it is suitable for her to get married, what difference does it make to her father? The Gemara answers: He thinks: Perhaps she agrees to get married now because she does not fully know what she is doing. But tomorrow, she will realize the marriage was a mistake, rebel, and leave her husband, and then she will come back and become a burden to me. Therefore, her father prefers that she wait until she has reached majority and marry when she is completely aware of what is involved.
אמר רבי אבא בר לוי אין פוסקין על הקטנה להשיאה כשהיא קטנה אבל פוסקין על הקטנה להשיאה כשהיא גדולה פשיטא מהו דתימא ליחוש דלמא מעיילא פחדא מהשתא וחלשה קא משמע לן
Rabbi Abba bar Levi said: One may not finalize an agreement to marry a minor girl in order to marry her while she is still a minor, but one may finalize an agreement to marry a minor girl in order to marry her when she becomes an adult woman. With regard to the latter halakha, the Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious? If he will marry her when she becomes an adult woman, there is nothing unusual about this case. The Gemara answers: Lest you say that one should be concerned that she might become afraid of marriage from making plans now, and this will cause her resolve to weaken, and then even when she becomes an adult she will maintain reservations about the matter, Rabbi Abba bar Levi therefore teaches us that one need not be concerned about this. One may finalize an agreement to marry her as an adult even when she is a minor girl.
אמר רב הונא בגרה יום אחד ונתקדשה נותנין לה שלשים יום כאלמנה מיתיבי בגרה הרי היא כתבועה מאי לאו כתבועה דבתולה לא כתבועה דאלמנה
§ Rav Huna said: If she has reached her majority, even for just one day, and then she is betrothed, she is given her thirty days to prepare for her wedding, like a widow, since prior to reaching adulthood she presumably had already prepared everything needed for her marriage. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: If she grew up, she is similar to a betrothed woman who has been asked to marry her betrothed. What, is it not that she is similar to a virgin who has been asked to marry, and she has twelve months to prepare? The Gemara answers: No, it means that she is similar to a widow who has been asked to marry her betrothed, who gets only thirty days to prepare. Only young women who have not reached majority and who are virgins get a year to prepare; after majority, all women, regardless of whether they are virgins, get thirty days.
תא שמע בוגרת ששהתה שנים עשר חדש רבי אליעזר אומר הואיל וחייב בעלה במזונותיה יפר אימא בוגרת וששהתה שנים עשר חודש רבי אליעזר אומר הואיל ובעלה חייב במזונותיה יפר
The Gemara attempts another refutation of Rav Huna’s statement: Come and hear a proof from a mishna (Nedarim 73b): If a grown woman waited twelve months since betrothal and is still not married, Rabbi Eliezer says: Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he may also nullify her vows (see Numbers, chapter 30). It can be inferred from this that the waiting period for a grown woman is also twelve months. The Gemara responds by emending the text of the mishna: Say that if a grown woman waited thirty days or a young woman waited twelve months, Rabbi Eliezer says: Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he may nullify her vows.
תא שמע המארס את הבתולה בין שתבעה הבעל והיא מעכבת ובין שתבעה היא ובעל מעכב נותנין לה שנים עשר חדש משעת תביעה אבל לא משעת אירוסין ובגרה הרי היא כתבועה כיצד בגרה יום אחד ונתקדשה נותנין לה שנים עשר חדש ולארוסה שלשים יום תיובתא דרב הונא תיובתא
The Gemara attempts another refutation of Rav Huna’s statement: Come and hear a baraita: If someone betrothed a virgin, whether the husband asks to marry her and she delays the process because she says that she requires more time or whether she asks to marry him and the husband delays the process because he is not yet ready, she is given twelve months from the time the request was issued but not from the time of the betrothal, even if that was much earlier, and a grown woman is similar to one who has been asked to marry. How is this so? If she has reached her majority for one day, and she is then betrothed, she is given twelve months from the day of her betrothal, because it is the same as the day of her majority. One who was already a betrothed woman when she reached majority is given thirty days. Therefore, the refutation of the opinion of Rav Huna is a conclusive refutation.
מאי ולארוסה שלשים יום אמר רב פפא הכי קאמר בוגרת שעברו עליה שנים עשר חדש בבגרות ונתקדשה נותנין לה שלשים יום כאלמנה:
The Gemara asks: What is meant by the words: And one who was already a betrothed woman is given thirty days? Rav Pappa said: This is what it is saying: With regard to a grown woman who has been an adult for twelve months and is then betrothed, she is given thirty days, like a widow, and not another twelve months.
הגיע זמן ולא נישאו: אמר עולא דבר תורה ארוסה בת ישראל אוכלת בתרומה שנאמר וכהן כי יקנה נפש קנין כספו והאי נמי קנין כספו הוא מה טעם אמרו אינה אוכלת שמא ימזגו לה כוס בבית אביה ותשקה לאחיה ולאחותה
§ The mishna states: If the appointed time for the wedding arrived and they did not get married, she may partake of teruma. Ulla said: By Torah law, the daughter of a non-priest betrothed to a priest may partake of teruma immediately, even before the wedding date arrives, as it is stated: “If a priest buy any soul, the acquisition of his money, he may eat of it” (Leviticus 22:11), and this woman is also an acquisition of his money through the betrothal. Therefore, she is entitled to partake of teruma. What, then, is the reason the Sages said that she may not partake? It is lest someone pour her a cup of teruma wine while she is in her father’s house. Although she may drink it as the betrothed of a priest, since she is still living in her father’s house there is a concern that she will give her brother or sister to drink from the wine, which is prohibited, as they are non-priests.
אי הכי הגיע זמן ולא נישאו נמי התם דוכתא מייחד לה
The Gemara asks: If so, then if the time arrived and they did not get married, there should also be concern that she might give it to members of her family, as she is still in her father’s house. Why, then, does the mishna say that she is permitted to partake of teruma at that time? The Gemara answers: There, after the time for the wedding has arrived, he designates a specific place for her. Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he will want to ensure that she receives her food in a particular place so that she not use it to feed her family. This mitigates the concern that she may inadvertently give it to her brother or sister to drink.
אלא מעתה לקיט כהן לישראל לא ליכול בתרומה דלמא אתו למיכל בהדיה השתא מדידהו ספו ליה מדידיה אכלי
The Gemara asks: However, if that is so, then the halakha should also be that a gleaner who is a priest and is employed by an Israelite may not partake of teruma, lest the other members of the household come to eat with him from the teruma. The Gemara rejects this: Now, even though the members of the Israelite household feed the priest from their food, as he is their employee, would they eat from his food? They would not. Therefore, there is no reason for concern and no reason to prohibit him from eating teruma. This is Ulla’s opinion.
רב שמואל בר רב יהודה אמר משום סימפון
However, Rav Shmuel bar Rav Yehuda said: The reason for the rabbinic decree is due to abrogation [simfon], cancellation of the contract. It may become known after the betrothal that she has blemishes that can retroactively annul the betrothal, and it would then become apparent that she had partaken of teruma unlawfully.
אי הכי נכנסה לחופה ולא נבעלה נמי התם מיבדק בדיק לה והדר מעייל
The Gemara asks: If so, if the rabbinic decree that prohibits a woman betrothed to a priest from partaking of teruma is due to concern for possible abrogation of the marriage, then a woman who entered the wedding canopy but has not yet engaged in sexual intercourse should also be prohibited from partaking of teruma, as the husband does not yet know whether she has blemishes. The Gemara answers: There, in that situation, he investigates her through the agency of his female relatives and only then enters the wedding canopy. Consequently, there is no longer any concern about abrogation.
אלא מעתה עבד כהן שלקחו מישראל לא ליכול בתרומה משום סימפון סימפון בעבדים ליכא דאי דאבראי הא קחזי ליה ואי דגואי למלאכה קא בעי ושבסתר לא איכפת ליה נמצא גנב או
The Gemara asks: However, if that is so, then according to this rationale, a priest’s slave whom the priest purchased from an Israelite should not partake of teruma, due to concern of abrogation. Perhaps the priest will discover a defect in the slave, resulting in the retroactive cancellation of the acquisition and causing the slave to return to his Israelite master after he had mistakenly eaten teruma. The Gemara answers: There is no abrogation with regard to slaves, since no type of defect could cause the cancellation of the transaction. The reason for this is that if the defect is external, then he sees it at the point of sale and accepts it. And if the defect is internal, since he needs him for labor, concealed defects do not concern him. With regard to other types of defects, e.g., if he was discovered to be a thief or
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Ketubot 57
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אירכס כתובתה אתו לקמיה דרב יוסף אמר להו הכי אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל זו דברי רבי מאיר
Her marriage contract was lost, and the woman and her husband came before Rav Yosef to ask what they should do. He said to them: This is what Rav Yehuda said that Shmuel said: That ruling, that if someone reduces his wife’s marriage contract by even a small amount, their marriage amounts to licentious sexual intercourse, is the statement of Rabbi Meir. According to that opinion, the husband and wife were forbidden to each other because she was not in possession of a valid marriage contract.
אבל חכמים אומרים משהא אדם את אשתו שתים ושלש שנים בלא כתובה אמר ליה אביי והא אמר רב נחמן אמר שמואל הלכה כרבי מאיר בגזירותיו אי הכי זיל כתוב לה
But the Rabbis say: Since the woman relies on the fact that she will eventually collect payment for her marriage contract, a man may maintain his wife for as long as two or three years without a written marriage contract. There is no urgent need to write a new one, since the husband’s obligation remains intact. Abaye said to him: But didn’t Rav Naḥman say that Shmuel said that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Meir with regard to all of his decrees? Since Rabbi Meir’s statement about marriage contracts was a form of decree, the halakha should be in accordance with his opinion. Rav Yosef responded: If so, go and write her a new marriage contract.
כי אתא רב דימי אמר רבי שמעון בן פזי אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי משום בר קפרא מחלוקת בתחלה אבל בסוף לדברי הכל אינה מוחלת ורבי יוחנן אמר בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי
§ The Gemara relates that when Rav Dimi came from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, he said that Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi said that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said in the name of bar Kappara: This dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei concerning whether one may make a verbal stipulation with a woman to reduce her marriage contract is referring only to the beginning of the process. But with regard to the end, all agree that she cannot waive her rights by verbal confirmation alone, and she must instead write a receipt. And Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Both in this case and in that case there is a dispute. Rabbi Abbahu said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, who said: Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and I do not actually disagree with one another. We merely used different language to express the same halakha.
מאי בתחלה דקאמר רבי יהושע בן לוי תחלת חופה ומאי סוף סוף ביאה וכי קאמינא אנא בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת תחלת חופה וסוף חופה דהיא תחילת ביאה
What is the meaning of the term: To the beginning, which Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said? It is referring to the beginning of the wedding ceremony. And what is meant by the end? It is referring to the end of intercourse; Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi’s opinion is that after the marriage has been consummated, Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei agree that the wife cannot relinquish her rights verbally. And when I said that both in this case and in that case there is a dispute, I was referring to the beginning of the wedding ceremony and the end of the wedding ceremony, which is also the beginning of the time designated for intercourse. Consequently, according to Rav Dimi, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan agree that the dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei applies only until the consummation of the marriage. After that point, all agree that she cannot waive her rights verbally.
כי אתא רבין אמר רבי שמעון בן פזי אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי משום בר קפרא מחלוקת לבסוף אבל בתחלה דברי הכל מוחלת ורבי יוחנן אמר בין בזו ובין בזו מחלוקת אמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי מאי לבסוף דאמר רבי יהושע בן לוי סוף חופה ומאי תחלה תחלת חופה וכי קאמינא אנא בין בזו בין בזו מחלוקת תחלת ביאה וסוף ביאה
When Ravin came from Eretz Yisrael, he reported this matter differently than Rav Dimi did: Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi said that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said in the name of bar Kappara: This dispute is referring only to the end of the process, but with regard to the beginning, all agree that she can waive her rights verbally. And Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Both in this case and in that case there is a dispute. Rabbi Abbahu said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, who said: I and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do not disagree with one another. What is the meaning of: The end, which Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said? The end of the wedding ceremony. And what is the meaning of the beginning? The beginning of the wedding ceremony. And when I said that both in this case and in that case there is a dispute, I was referring to the beginning of intercourse and the end of intercourse.
אמר רב פפא אי לאו דאמר רבי אבהו לדידי מיפרשא לי מיניה דרבי יוחנן דאנא ורבי יהושע בן לוי לא פלגינן אהדדי הוה אמינא רבי יוחנן ורבי יהושע בן לוי פליגי רב דימי ורבין לא פליגי
Consequently, according to Ravin, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan agree that at the time of the wedding ceremony the wife can verbally waive her rights, and the dispute of the tanna’im is referring to the time after the ceremony, which is also the beginning of the time for consummation of the marriage. Rav Pappa said: Had Rabbi Abbahu not said: This was explained to me personally by Rabbi Yoḥanan himself, that I, i.e. Rabbi Yoḥanan, and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do not disagree with one another, I, i.e., Rav Pappa, would have said that the way to understand the various texts is that Rabbi Yoḥanan and Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi do disagree with one another, whereas Rav Dimi and Ravin do not disagree with one another, but rather they both cited the same tradition from Eretz Yisrael.
מאי סוף דקאמר רבין סוף חופה ומאי תחלה דקאמר רב דימי תחלת ביאה
I would have explained it in the following manner: What is the meaning of the word end, which Ravin said? It is referring to the end of the wedding ceremony. And what is the meaning of the word beginning, which Rav Dimi said? It is referring to the beginning of the time designated for intercourse, which begins at the end of the wedding ceremony. It would then follow that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan disagreed about the explanation of the dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei, whereas Rav Dimi and Ravin both said the same thing.
מאי קא משמע לן
What is Rav Pappa teaching us? Since he accepts Rabbi Abbahu’s statement, he acknowledges that his alternate way of reading the sources is not correct. What, then, is the point of telling us that he would have explained Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi’s and Rabbi Yoḥanan’s words differently?
הא קא משמע לן דפליגי תרי אמוראי אטעמא דנפשייהו ולא פליגי תרי אמוראי אליבא דחד אמורא:
The Gemara explains: It teaches us this: If we were discussing the meaning of an amoraic dispute about which we have different traditions, it is better to explain that two amora’im disagree with regard to their own reasons and not that two amora’im disagree according to the opinion of another amora, as it is more plausible to say that there is a dispute about logical reasoning than that there is a dispute about the correct transmission of a halakhic tradition. Consequently, had Rabbi Abbahu not declared that he was told otherwise by Rabbi Yoḥanan, it would have been preferable to explain that there is a logical dispute between Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi and Rabbi Yoḥanan, rather than saying that the dispute is about the details of the tradition received by Rav Dimi and Ravin.
מתני׳ נותנין לבתולה שנים עשר חודש משתבעה הבעל לפרנס את עצמה וכשם שנותנין לאשה כך נותנין לאיש לפרנס את עצמו ולאלמנה שלשים יום הגיע זמן ולא נישאו אוכלות משלו ואוכלות בתרומה
MISHNA: One gives a virgin twelve months from the time the husband asked to marry her after having betrothed her, in order to prepare herself with clothes and jewelry for the marriage. And just as one gives a woman this amount of time, so too does one give a man an equivalent period of time to prepare himself, as he too needs time to prepare for the marriage. However, in the case of a widow, who already has items available from her previous marriage, she is given only thirty days to prepare. If the appointed time for the wedding arrived and they did not get married due to some delay on the part of the husband, then the woman may partake of his food. And if her husband is a priest, she may partake of teruma, even if she is an Israelite woman.
רבי טרפון אומר נותנין לה הכל תרומה רבי עקיבא אומר מחצה חולין ומחצה תרומה
The tanna’im disagree about the permission granted to a priest to sustain his betrothed with teruma before she is married to him. Rabbi Tarfon says: He may give her all of her required sustenance from teruma. During her periods of impurity, e.g., menstruation, when she cannot partake of teruma, she may sell the teruma to a priest and use the proceeds to buy non-sacred food. Rabbi Akiva says: He must give her half of her needs from non-sacred food and half may be from teruma, so that she can eat from the non-sacred food when she is ritually impure.
היבם אינו מאכיל בתרומה עשתה ששה חדשים בפני הבעל וששה חדשים בפני היבם ואפילו כולן בפני הבעל חסר יום אחד בפני היבם או כולן בפני היבם חסר יום אחד בפני הבעל אינה אוכלת בתרומה
The mishna continues: A priest who is a yavam, i.e., his brother died childless after betrothing a woman, does not enable his yevama to partake of teruma by virtue of her relationship with him. If she had completed six months of the twelve-month wait for marriage under the aegis of the husband, and then he died, and she waited six more months under the aegis of the yavam; or even if she completed all of the necessary time under the aegis of the husband except for one day that she was under the aegis of the yavam; or if she completed all of the necessary time under the aegis of the yavam except for one day that she was under the aegis of the husband, she still may not partake of teruma.
זו משנה ראשונה בית דין של אחריהן אמרו
This set of rulings, concerning the permission granted a betrothed woman whose wedding date has arrived to partake of teruma, is in accordance with the initial version of the mishna. However, a court that convened after them, in a later generation, said:
אין האשה אוכלת בתרומה עד שתכנס לחופה:
A woman may not partake of teruma until she has actually entered the wedding canopy.
גמ׳ מנא הני מילי אמר רב חסדא דאמר קרא ויאמר אחיה ואמה תשב הנערה אתנו ימים או עשור
GEMARA: The Gemara asks: From where are these matters derived, that a virgin is given twelve months to prepare for her wedding? Rav Ḥisda said it is based on the fact that the verse states with regard to Rebecca: “And her brother and mother said: Let the damsel abide with us for days, or ten” (Genesis 24:55).
מאי ימים אילימא תרי יומי משתעי איניש הכי אמרו ליה תרי יומי אמר להו לא אמרו ליה עשרה יומי אלא מאי ימים שנה דכתיב ימים תהיה גאולתו
The Gemara first analyzes the language of the verse: What is the meaning of “days”? If we say two days, the minimum number justifying the use of the plural, does a person really speak like this? Rebecca’s relatives said to Abraham’s servant that they wanted her to stay for two days, after which he said to them no, as he did not want to wait even that long. If so, is it possible that after that they said to him that they wanted her to stay for ten days? Consequently, it is impossible to explain the word “days” as two days and “ten” as ten days. Rather, what is the meaning of “days”? It means: A year, as it is written: “For days he shall have redemption” (Leviticus 25:29), and there it is explained that “days” is referring to a year. Consequently, in the verse “And her brother and mother said: Let the damsel abide with us for days, or ten” (Genesis 24:55), “days” refers to a year, and “ten” refers to a shorter period of similar magnitude, i.e. ten months, in order to prepare for her wedding.
ואימא חדש דכתיב עד חדש ימים אמרי דנין ימים סתם מימים סתם ואין דנין ימים סתם מימים שנאמר בהן חדש
The Gemara asks: And let us say that “days” means a month, as it is written: “But a whole month of days” (Numbers 11:20), and the verse about Rebecca might then have meant that her family wanted to wait for a month, or at least for ten days. They say: One derives the meaning of an unspecified use of the term “days” from another unspecified instance of the term “days,” which means a year. And one does not derive the meaning of an unspecified use of the term “days” from an instance of the term “days,” about which the term “month” is stated. Consequently, it can be derived from the verse that the ordinary amount of time required for a virgin to prepare for marriage is twelve months.
אמר רבי זירא תנא קטנה בין היא ובין אביה יכולין לעכב בשלמא איהי מצי מעכבא אלא אביה אי איהי ניחא לה אביה מאי נפקא ליה מינה סבר השתא לא ידעה למחר מימרדא ונפקא ואתיא ונפלה עילואי
§ Rabbi Zeira said: It was taught in the Tosefta (Ketubot 5:1) with regard to a minor girl: Either she or her father may delay the wedding until she has reached majority. The Gemara asks: Granted, she, the girl herself, may delay the wedding if she feels she is not ready, as she is the one who will be directly affected, but why should her father be allowed to delay her wedding? If it is suitable for her to get married, what difference does it make to her father? The Gemara answers: He thinks: Perhaps she agrees to get married now because she does not fully know what she is doing. But tomorrow, she will realize the marriage was a mistake, rebel, and leave her husband, and then she will come back and become a burden to me. Therefore, her father prefers that she wait until she has reached majority and marry when she is completely aware of what is involved.
אמר רבי אבא בר לוי אין פוסקין על הקטנה להשיאה כשהיא קטנה אבל פוסקין על הקטנה להשיאה כשהיא גדולה פשיטא מהו דתימא ליחוש דלמא מעיילא פחדא מהשתא וחלשה קא משמע לן
Rabbi Abba bar Levi said: One may not finalize an agreement to marry a minor girl in order to marry her while she is still a minor, but one may finalize an agreement to marry a minor girl in order to marry her when she becomes an adult woman. With regard to the latter halakha, the Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious? If he will marry her when she becomes an adult woman, there is nothing unusual about this case. The Gemara answers: Lest you say that one should be concerned that she might become afraid of marriage from making plans now, and this will cause her resolve to weaken, and then even when she becomes an adult she will maintain reservations about the matter, Rabbi Abba bar Levi therefore teaches us that one need not be concerned about this. One may finalize an agreement to marry her as an adult even when she is a minor girl.
אמר רב הונא בגרה יום אחד ונתקדשה נותנין לה שלשים יום כאלמנה מיתיבי בגרה הרי היא כתבועה מאי לאו כתבועה דבתולה לא כתבועה דאלמנה
§ Rav Huna said: If she has reached her majority, even for just one day, and then she is betrothed, she is given her thirty days to prepare for her wedding, like a widow, since prior to reaching adulthood she presumably had already prepared everything needed for her marriage. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: If she grew up, she is similar to a betrothed woman who has been asked to marry her betrothed. What, is it not that she is similar to a virgin who has been asked to marry, and she has twelve months to prepare? The Gemara answers: No, it means that she is similar to a widow who has been asked to marry her betrothed, who gets only thirty days to prepare. Only young women who have not reached majority and who are virgins get a year to prepare; after majority, all women, regardless of whether they are virgins, get thirty days.
תא שמע בוגרת ששהתה שנים עשר חדש רבי אליעזר אומר הואיל וחייב בעלה במזונותיה יפר אימא בוגרת וששהתה שנים עשר חודש רבי אליעזר אומר הואיל ובעלה חייב במזונותיה יפר
The Gemara attempts another refutation of Rav Huna’s statement: Come and hear a proof from a mishna (Nedarim 73b): If a grown woman waited twelve months since betrothal and is still not married, Rabbi Eliezer says: Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he may also nullify her vows (see Numbers, chapter 30). It can be inferred from this that the waiting period for a grown woman is also twelve months. The Gemara responds by emending the text of the mishna: Say that if a grown woman waited thirty days or a young woman waited twelve months, Rabbi Eliezer says: Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he may nullify her vows.
תא שמע המארס את הבתולה בין שתבעה הבעל והיא מעכבת ובין שתבעה היא ובעל מעכב נותנין לה שנים עשר חדש משעת תביעה אבל לא משעת אירוסין ובגרה הרי היא כתבועה כיצד בגרה יום אחד ונתקדשה נותנין לה שנים עשר חדש ולארוסה שלשים יום תיובתא דרב הונא תיובתא
The Gemara attempts another refutation of Rav Huna’s statement: Come and hear a baraita: If someone betrothed a virgin, whether the husband asks to marry her and she delays the process because she says that she requires more time or whether she asks to marry him and the husband delays the process because he is not yet ready, she is given twelve months from the time the request was issued but not from the time of the betrothal, even if that was much earlier, and a grown woman is similar to one who has been asked to marry. How is this so? If she has reached her majority for one day, and she is then betrothed, she is given twelve months from the day of her betrothal, because it is the same as the day of her majority. One who was already a betrothed woman when she reached majority is given thirty days. Therefore, the refutation of the opinion of Rav Huna is a conclusive refutation.
מאי ולארוסה שלשים יום אמר רב פפא הכי קאמר בוגרת שעברו עליה שנים עשר חדש בבגרות ונתקדשה נותנין לה שלשים יום כאלמנה:
The Gemara asks: What is meant by the words: And one who was already a betrothed woman is given thirty days? Rav Pappa said: This is what it is saying: With regard to a grown woman who has been an adult for twelve months and is then betrothed, she is given thirty days, like a widow, and not another twelve months.
הגיע זמן ולא נישאו: אמר עולא דבר תורה ארוסה בת ישראל אוכלת בתרומה שנאמר וכהן כי יקנה נפש קנין כספו והאי נמי קנין כספו הוא מה טעם אמרו אינה אוכלת שמא ימזגו לה כוס בבית אביה ותשקה לאחיה ולאחותה
§ The mishna states: If the appointed time for the wedding arrived and they did not get married, she may partake of teruma. Ulla said: By Torah law, the daughter of a non-priest betrothed to a priest may partake of teruma immediately, even before the wedding date arrives, as it is stated: “If a priest buy any soul, the acquisition of his money, he may eat of it” (Leviticus 22:11), and this woman is also an acquisition of his money through the betrothal. Therefore, she is entitled to partake of teruma. What, then, is the reason the Sages said that she may not partake? It is lest someone pour her a cup of teruma wine while she is in her father’s house. Although she may drink it as the betrothed of a priest, since she is still living in her father’s house there is a concern that she will give her brother or sister to drink from the wine, which is prohibited, as they are non-priests.
אי הכי הגיע זמן ולא נישאו נמי התם דוכתא מייחד לה
The Gemara asks: If so, then if the time arrived and they did not get married, there should also be concern that she might give it to members of her family, as she is still in her father’s house. Why, then, does the mishna say that she is permitted to partake of teruma at that time? The Gemara answers: There, after the time for the wedding has arrived, he designates a specific place for her. Since her husband is obligated to provide for her sustenance, he will want to ensure that she receives her food in a particular place so that she not use it to feed her family. This mitigates the concern that she may inadvertently give it to her brother or sister to drink.
אלא מעתה לקיט כהן לישראל לא ליכול בתרומה דלמא אתו למיכל בהדיה השתא מדידהו ספו ליה מדידיה אכלי
The Gemara asks: However, if that is so, then the halakha should also be that a gleaner who is a priest and is employed by an Israelite may not partake of teruma, lest the other members of the household come to eat with him from the teruma. The Gemara rejects this: Now, even though the members of the Israelite household feed the priest from their food, as he is their employee, would they eat from his food? They would not. Therefore, there is no reason for concern and no reason to prohibit him from eating teruma. This is Ulla’s opinion.
רב שמואל בר רב יהודה אמר משום סימפון
However, Rav Shmuel bar Rav Yehuda said: The reason for the rabbinic decree is due to abrogation [simfon], cancellation of the contract. It may become known after the betrothal that she has blemishes that can retroactively annul the betrothal, and it would then become apparent that she had partaken of teruma unlawfully.
אי הכי נכנסה לחופה ולא נבעלה נמי התם מיבדק בדיק לה והדר מעייל
The Gemara asks: If so, if the rabbinic decree that prohibits a woman betrothed to a priest from partaking of teruma is due to concern for possible abrogation of the marriage, then a woman who entered the wedding canopy but has not yet engaged in sexual intercourse should also be prohibited from partaking of teruma, as the husband does not yet know whether she has blemishes. The Gemara answers: There, in that situation, he investigates her through the agency of his female relatives and only then enters the wedding canopy. Consequently, there is no longer any concern about abrogation.
אלא מעתה עבד כהן שלקחו מישראל לא ליכול בתרומה משום סימפון סימפון בעבדים ליכא דאי דאבראי הא קחזי ליה ואי דגואי למלאכה קא בעי ושבסתר לא איכפת ליה נמצא גנב או
The Gemara asks: However, if that is so, then according to this rationale, a priest’s slave whom the priest purchased from an Israelite should not partake of teruma, due to concern of abrogation. Perhaps the priest will discover a defect in the slave, resulting in the retroactive cancellation of the acquisition and causing the slave to return to his Israelite master after he had mistakenly eaten teruma. The Gemara answers: There is no abrogation with regard to slaves, since no type of defect could cause the cancellation of the transaction. The reason for this is that if the defect is external, then he sees it at the point of sale and accepts it. And if the defect is internal, since he needs him for labor, concealed defects do not concern him. With regard to other types of defects, e.g., if he was discovered to be a thief or