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Summary
Rabbi Ami rules that one is liable for placing a leavening agent onto a meal offering dough and leaving it to leaven on its own, just as one is liable on Shabbat for an act of cooking in the same manner. The Gemara questions this, noting Rabbi Yochanan’s ruling that on Shabbat, one who places meat on coals is generally only liable if they actively turn the meat. Rava explains that Rabbi Ami’s comparison means one is liable for the result even without active intervention, provided the leavening reaches a certain minimum level.
The Gemara delves into Rabbi Yochanan’s statement regarding turning the meat and establishes the case as one where the meat would not cook on both sides to the minimum level of ben Drosai (1/3 cooked) if not turned. Rava adds that if a portion the size of a fig-bulk were cooked fully on one side, in one place, one would be liable. A Mishna regarding building on Shabbat is brought as a difficulty for Rava’s statement, but the challenge is ultimately rejected. Some have a version where Rava said that even if not in one place, and the Mishna is brought to support, but the support is rejected.
A braita derives from Vayikra 2:11 that the leavening prohibition applies to the entire mincha, not just the kometz burned on the altar. However, it also derives that this applies only to a valid offering, not a disqualified one. This leads to two unresolved inquiries. Rav Papa asks: if one leavened a dough, took it outside the Temple courtyard, and then leavened it further, is there liability for the second stage? Or, is removing it not considered a disqualification since it was already leavened and invalid? Rav Meri asks if one is liable for leavening an offering already on top of the altar, or if the act of “bringing” is considered complete at that point.
The Gemara discusses which additional offerings are included in the prohibition. According to a corrected version, Rabbi Yosi haGelili includes the showbread, while Rabbi Akiva includes the mincha libation accompanying sacrifices. This dispute hinges on whether dry-measure vessels possess the inherent sanctity to disqualify an offering if it leavens within them. This is linked to a debate between Rabbi Yoshiya and Rabbi Yonatan regarding the sanctification of liquid versus dry-measure vessels in the Temple.
The Torah prohibits offering leaven or honey as a fire-offering, and Vayikra 2:11 further teaches that leftovers of various offerings cannot be offered on the altar if a portion has already been burned. Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Elazar disagree on whether one is liable for offering these prohibited substances on the ramp (kevesh) of the altar.
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Menachot 57
ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ: ΧΦ΄Χ Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΦ· ΧΦΈΦΌΧ©ΦΈΧΧ¨ Χ’Φ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ β ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦΌΧΦΉ ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ, ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦΌΧΦΉ Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ¨.
that Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan says: In the case of one who placed meat on top of coals on Shabbat, if he subsequently turned over the meat to its other side, so that both sides were roasted, he is liable for cooking on Shabbat. But if he did not turn over the meat he is exempt, as the meat is considered cooked only if both sides were roasted. If so, the same should apply to one who places leaven on the dough of a meal offering: He should be liable only if he turns the dough over. This contradicts the ruling of Rabbi Ami.
ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨ΦΈΧΦΈΧ: ΧΦ·ΧΧ Χ΄ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧΧ΄ Χ ΦΈΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ§ΦΈΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨? ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ’Φ²Χ©Φ΅ΧΧ Χ¦ΦΈΧΦ΄Χ Χ©ΦΆΧΧ Χ©Φ·ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧͺ.
Rava said: What does Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan, as well, mean when he says: He is liable to receive lashes for it, similar to performing a prohibited action on Shabbat? He means that one who places leaven on the dough of a meal offering, even if he does not turn it over, is similar to one who performs a prohibited action of roasting on Shabbat, meaning that he is similar to one who turned over the roasting food on the coals.
ΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ€ΦΈΧ, ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ¨ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ¨ ΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ, ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ: ΧΦ΄Χ Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΦ· ΧΦΈΦΌΧ©ΦΈΧΧ¨ Χ’Φ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦΌΧΦΉ β ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ, ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦΌΧΦΉ β Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ¨. ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ? ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΌ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ β Χ€Φ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΈΧ! ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΧΦ° ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ Χ ΦΈΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ, ΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧ?
Β§ The Gemara discusses the matter itself. Rabba bar bar αΈ€ana says that Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan says: In the case of one who placed meat on top of coals on Shabbat, if he subsequently turned over the meat he is liable for cooking on Shabbat, and if he did not turn over the meat he is exempt. The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this case? If we say that this was a situation where if he does not turn over the meat it would not cook, then it is obvious that if he does not turn it over he is exempt. Rather, it must be referring to a case where even if he does not turn over the meat it would nevertheless cook. But if so, why isnβt he liable for merely placing the meat on the coals, despite the fact that he did not turn it over?
ΧΦΈΧ Χ¦Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ·Χ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΧΦ° ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΌ β ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ ΧΦ΄Χ¦Φ·ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦΆΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ‘Φ·ΧΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ€Φ΅ΦΌΧΧΦ° ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΌ β ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ ΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΦΌΧΧ Φ΅Χ Χ¦Φ°ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦΆΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ‘Φ·ΧΧ, ΧΦ°Χ§ΦΈΧ ΧΦ·Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦ·Χ’ ΧΦ·Χ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ΄Χ¦Φ·ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦΆΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ‘Φ·ΧΧ β ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΌΧ.
The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary to state this halakha in a case where if he does not turn over the meat it would cook on one side only partially, roughly one-third of the ordinary process of cooking, like the food of ben Derosai. And now that he turns it over, it cooks on both sides like the food of ben Derosai. And Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan teaches us that any meat roasted on only one side like the food of ben Derosai is nothing, i.e., this is not a violation of the prohibited labor of cooking on Shabbat. If it was roasted on both sides like the food of ben Derosai this is classified as cooking, and he is liable for cooking on Shabbat.
ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨ΦΈΧΦΈΧ: ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄Χ Χ Φ΄Χ¦Φ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦΌΧΦΉ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ¨ΧΦΉΧΦΆΧ¨ΦΆΧͺ ΧΦ΄Χ¦Φ·ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ β ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ. ΧΦ²ΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ Χ¨ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·Χ ΧΦΈΧ©Φ΅ΧΧ: ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ β ΧΦ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧ Φ·ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΧΦΉ Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ©ΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧΧΦΉΧͺ β ΧΦΈΧ? ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧͺΦ°Χ Φ·Χ: ΧΦ·Χ§ΦΌΧΦΉΧΦ΅ΧΦ· ΧΧΦΌΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ β ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ!
The Gemara continues to discuss the case of meat roasted on one side on Shabbat. Rava says: And if a quantity of that meat equivalent in volume to a fig-bulk was fully roasted on one side of the meat and the roasted area was in one spot on the piece of meat, while the rest of the meat remained raw, he is liable for cooking on Shabbat. Ravina said to Rav Ashi: It can be inferred from Ravaβs statement that if the fig-bulk of meat that was roasted was in one spot, yes, he is liable, whereas if the amount of the fig-bulk was distributed over two or three separate spots he is not liable. But didnβt we learn in a mishna (Shabbat 102b): One who drills a hole of any size is liable for the labor of building or the labor of striking a blow with a hammer to complete the production process of a vessel?
ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦ΅Χ? ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ, ΧΧΦΌΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΧ ΧΦ²ΧΦ΅Χ? ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧ Φ·ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΧΦΉ Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ©ΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧΧΦΉΧͺ, ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ²ΧΧΦΉ ΧΦ°Χ¦Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΧΦΌΧ£? ΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°Χ’ΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ²ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ§Φ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ.
The Gemara analyzes that mishna: What are the circumstances? If we say that the mishna is referring to one who drills a hole in one spot alone, why is he liable? For what purpose is a hole of any size, which includes a very small hole, fit to be used? Rather, is it not referring to one who drills holes in two or three different spots, and the reason he is liable is that these holes are fit to be joined? Builders who require a large hole will often start by drilling a few small holes which they later enlarge and join together. By the same logic, if the meat was roasted in a few spots he should be liable, as these can join together. The Gemara answers: No; actually the mishna is referring to one who drills in only one spot, as one can say that the hole is fit as an entrance [levava] for the placement of the tooth of a key [aklida], which is very small.
ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ°Χ¨Φ΄Χ, ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨ΦΈΧΦΈΧ: ΧΦ²Χ€Φ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧ Φ·ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ©ΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧΧΦΉΧͺ. ΧΦ²ΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ Χ¨ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·Χ ΧΦΈΧ©Φ΅ΧΧ: ΧΦ·Χ£ ΧΦ²Χ Φ·Χ Χ ΦΈΧΦ΅Χ ΧͺΦ°ΦΌΧ Φ΅ΧΧ ΦΈΧ β ΧΦ·Χ§ΦΌΧΦΉΧΦ΅ΧΦ· ΧΧΦΌΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ. ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ? ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ β ΧΧΦΌΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΧ ΧΦ²ΧΦ΅Χ? ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧ Φ·ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ©ΦΈΧΧ ΧΦ°Χ§ΧΦΉΧΧΦΉΧͺ, ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ²ΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ°Χ¦Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΧΦΌΧ£? ΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°Χ’ΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ§ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ²ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ§Φ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ.
And there are those who say there is a different version of this discussion: Rava says: Even if the fig-bulk of the meat that was fully roasted on only one side was distributed over two or three separate spots, he is liable for cooking on Shabbat. Ravina said to Rav Ashi: We learn this halakha in the mishna as well: One who drills a hole of any size is liable. What are the circumstances? If we say that the hole is in one spot alone, why is he liable? For what purpose is a hole of any size fit to be used? Rather, is it not referring to one who drills holes in two or three different spots, and the reason he is liable is that these holes are fit to be joined? Similarly, in the case discussed by Rava, one is liable for the cooking of the meat in a few different spots which can join together. The Gemara answers: No; actually the mishna is referring to one who drills in only one spot, as one can say that it is fit as an entrance for the placement of the tooth of a key.
ΧͺΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦΌ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧ Φ·Χ: ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌ Χ ΦΆΧΦ±ΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ·ΧΧ³ ΧΦΉΧ ΧͺΦ΅Χ’ΦΈΧ©ΦΆΧΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ₯Χ΄, ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧͺΦ΄Χ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΉΧ ΧͺΦ΅Χ’ΦΈΧ©ΦΆΧΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ₯ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ Χ§ΧΦΉΧΦΆΧ₯ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ.
Β§ The Gemara returns to discussing the prohibition against leavening a meal offering. The Sages taught in a baraita: Concerning the deep-pan meal offering, the verse states: βNo meal offering that you shall bring to the Lord shall be made with leaven; for any leaven, and any honey, you shall not burn any of it as an offering made by fire to the Lordβ (Leviticus 2:11). The term βmeal offeringβ is apparently superfluous, and therefore the baraita explains: If the verse had stated only: Nothing that you shall bring to the Lord shall be made with leaven, I would say: I have derived only that the handful removed from the meal offering for burning on the altar alone is included in the prohibition: βShall not be made with leaven,β as only the handful is burned on the altar.
ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄Χ Φ·ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ? ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ΄ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧΧ΄. Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΈΧ¨ ΧΦ°Χ ΦΈΧΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦ΄Χ Φ·ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ? ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ΄ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Φ°ΧΦΈΧΧ΄.
From where is it derived that one is liable for the leavening of a meal offering whose handful has not yet been removed? The verse states: βMeal offering,β to teach that the prohibition includes a meal offering before the removal of its handful. The Gemara asks: Since this verse is stated in the context of the deep-pan meal offering, from where is it derived that one is liable for leavening the other meal offerings, which are not mentioned in this passage? Therefore, the verse states the inclusive phrase: βNo meal offering,β to apply this halakha to other meal offerings.
Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ·ΧΧ³Χ΄ β ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦΉΧ Χ€Φ°ΦΌΧ‘ΧΦΌΧΦΈΧ. ΧΦ΄ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ°Χ¨ΧΦΌ: ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯ ΧΦΆΧͺ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ΅ΧΧΧ¨ΦΈΧ β ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧͺ ΧΦ·Χ€Φ°ΦΌΧ‘ΧΦΌΧΦΈΧ β Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ¨.
The baraita continues to expound the verse. The phrase: βThat you shall bring to the Lord,β indicates that this prohibition applies only to a fit meal offering, but not to a disqualified meal offering, e.g., a meal offering that was taken outside the Temple or that was rendered ritually impure. From here the Sages stated that one who leavens a fit meal offering is liable to receive lashes, but one who leavens a disqualified meal offering is exempt.
ΧΦΈΦΌΧ’Φ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·Χ Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ€ΦΈΦΌΧ: ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¦ΦΈΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ¦ΦΈΧΧͺ, ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¦ΦΈΧΦΌ β ΧΦ·ΧΧΦΌ? ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ¦ΦΈΧΧͺ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ°ΦΌΧ‘Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΉΧ¦Φ΅Χ, ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯ ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ β ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧ Χ’Φ²ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯ ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅Χ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯.
With regard to the ruling that the prohibition against leavening does not apply to a disqualified meal offering, Rav Pappa raises a dilemma: If one leavened a meal offering when it was fit, and subsequently someone removed the meal offering and it emerged from the Temple courtyard and was thereby disqualified, and he again leavened it, what is the halakha? Is he liable for the second leavening as well? The Gemara explains the possibilities: Does one say that since it emerged it is disqualified in accordance with the status of a sacred item that emerges from its permitted area, and therefore when he again leavens it he is not liable for it due to the prohibition against leavening a meal offering after one who already leavened it?
ΧΧΦΉ ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¦ΦΈΧΦΌ, Χ€Φ°ΦΌΧ‘ΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ¦Φ΅Χ ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ²Χ Φ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌ, ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ²ΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯ ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ β ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧ Χ’Φ²ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯ ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅Χ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ₯? ΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ§ΧΦΌ.
Or perhaps, since one already leavened the meal offering, from this point forward the disqualification of a sacred item that emerges from its permitted area is ineffective with regard to removing it from the prohibition against leavening, as the prohibition against emerging from the Temple itself applies only to a fit meal offering. And therefore, when he again leavens it he is liable for it due to the prohibition against leavening a meal offering after one who already leavened it. No answer was found, and the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.
ΧΦΈΦΌΧ’Φ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·Χ ΧΦΈΧ¨Φ΄Χ: ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¦ΦΈΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨ΦΉΧΧ©ΧΧΦΉ Χ©ΦΆΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·, ΧΦ·ΧΧΦΌ? Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌΧ΄ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ·Χ§Φ°Χ¨Φ°ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ,
Rav Mari raises another dilemma concerning the leavening of a meal offering. If a priest leavened a meal offering while standing at the top of the altar, what is the halakha? The Gemara clarifies the possibilities: The Merciful One states in the Torah: βNo meal offering that you shall bring to the Lord shall be made with leavenβ (Leviticus 2:11), which indicates that this prohibition applies only to a meal offering that has not yet been brought to the Lord, i.e., to the altar. And therefore, as this meal offering has already been brought to the top of the altar, even though it has not yet been burned, perhaps it is not included in the prohibition.
ΧΧΦΉ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ‘Φ·ΦΌΧ¨ ΧΦ·Χ§Φ°ΧΦΈΧ¨ΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ‘Φ·ΦΌΧ¨ ΧΦ·Χ’Φ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦ΅Χ? ΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ§ΧΦΌ.
Or perhaps any offering whose burning has not yet been performed is considered like one whose action of sacrifice has not yet been performed, despite the fact that it has already been brought to the top of the altar. If so, this meal offering is included in the prohibition against leavening. No answer was found, and the Gemara states that the dilemma shall stand unresolved.
ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ ΦΈΧ€Φ°Χ§ΦΈΧ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄Χ΄ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Φ°ΧΦΈΧΧ΄, Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌ (ΧΦ·ΧΧ³)Χ΄ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄Χ? ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ°ΦΌΧ’Φ΅Χ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΧͺΦ·Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧ: Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌΧ΄ β ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦ·Χͺ Χ Φ°Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ₯, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ¨Φ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΄Χ. Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Χ’Φ²Χ§Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨: ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ₯.
The Gemara asks: And now that the tanna of the baraita derives from the phrase: βNo meal offering,β that the prohibition includes even a meal offering before the removal of its handful, why do I need the phrase: βThat you shall bring,β in the same verse? The Gemara answers: It is necessary for that which is taught in a baraita: The verse states: βThat you shall bring,β in order to include the meal offering brought with the libations that accompany certain animal offerings such as burnt offerings, peace offerings, and the sin offerings and guilt offerings of a leper in the prohibition against leavening. Unlike the standard meal offerings, from which a handful is removed, these are entirely burned upon the altar, and the additional derivation is necessary to include them in the prohibition against leavening. This is the statement of Rabbi Yosei HaGelili. Rabbi Akiva says: This phrase serves to include the shewbread in the prohibition against leavening.
ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦ·Χͺ Χ Φ°Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ? ΧΦ΅Χ Χ€Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦ΅Χ!
The Gemara clarifies these opinions: With regard to the opinion of Rabbi Yosei HaGelili, the Gemara asks: How is it possible to leaven the meal offering brought with libations? This type of meal offering is kneaded only with olive oil, which is a type of fruit juice,
ΧΦΌΧΦ΅Χ Χ€Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧ¦Φ΄ΧΧ? ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ΅ΧΧ©Χ ΧΦΈΧ§Φ΄ΧΧ©Χ: ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨ ΧΦΈΧΦΈΧ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΄Χ, ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦ·Χͺ Χ Φ°Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΌΧΦ°Χ©Φ΅ΧΧ¨ΦΈΧ.
and there is a principle that fruit juices do not leaven dough. Reish Lakish says that Rabbi Yosei HaGelili would say: Even though the oil of the meal offering brought with libations is plentiful, sometimes one might also knead a meal offering with some water, if he considers it necessary to add it, and it is fit. If so, it is possible for this meal offering to leaven due to the water, and therefore the verse: βThat you shall bring,β teaches that the prohibition against leavening also applies to this type of meal offering.
ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧΦ·Χ’Φ°Χ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Χ’Φ²Χ§Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨: ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΦΉΧ Χ Φ΄ΧͺΦ°Χ§Φ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©ΦΈΧΧ.
The Gemara asks: With regard to Rabbi Akivaβs opinion, the vessel into which a tenth of an ephah of flour for baking the shewbread is placed in is a measuring vessel for dry items, and we have heard that Rabbi Akiva said: The measuring vessels for dry items were not consecrated as service vessels. This means the shewbread becomes consecrated only when it is placed on the Table in the Sanctuary, after it has been baked. If so, at this stage, the prohibition against leavening is not relevant.
Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦ·Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Χ¨Φ°ΧΧΦΌΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΦΌΧΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ: ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦ° ΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ·Χ¦ΦΈΦΌΧ’ΦΈΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧ ΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΧΧ ΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧ€ΧΦΉΧΦ° β Χ΄ΧΦ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ¨ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌΧ΄ ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ₯, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ¨Φ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΄Χ. Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Χ’Φ²Χ§Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨: ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦ΄Χ Φ°ΧΦ·Χͺ Χ Φ°Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ₯.
In answer to this question, the Gemara states that Rabbi Reuven sent a letter from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, in which he cited a statement in the name of Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan: This is the correct version [hetzeβah] of this baraita, and one should reverse the names of the Sages in it: The phrase βthat you shall bringβ serves to include the shewbread in the prohibition against leavening; this is the statement of Rabbi Yosei HaGelili. Rabbi Akiva says: This phrase serves to include the meal offering brought with libations in the prohibition against leavening. Consequently, there is no contradiction between Rabbi Akivaβs statement here and his statement with regard to measuring vessels for dry items.
ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΦΌΧ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ’Φ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ, ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ: Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ‘Φ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΈΧ’Φ΅ΧΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ°Χ¨ΧΦΌ ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦΈΧ¨ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ·Χ ΦΌΧΦΌ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΉΧΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ.
The Gemara comments: And Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan, who holds that Rabbi Yosei HaGelili is the one who maintains that the measuring vessels for dry items were consecrated, follows [veβazda] his line of reasoning stated elsewhere. As Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan says: Rabbi Yosei HaGelili and one of the students of Rabbi Yishmael both said the same thing. And who is that student of Rabbi Yishmael? It is Rabbi Yoshiya.
ΧΦ°ΦΌΧͺΦ·Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧ, Χ΄ΧΦ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°Χ©ΦΈΧΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ°Χ§Φ·ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ©Χ ΧΦΉΧͺΦΈΧΧ΄. Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΉΧΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨: ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ·ΧΧ ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ₯, ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ°ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ°ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ₯.
As it is taught in a baraita: The verse states with regard to the consecration of the Tabernacle and its vessels before their inauguration: βAnd it came to pass on the day that Moses had made an end of setting up the Tabernacle, and had anointed it and sanctified it, and all its vessels, and the altar and all its vessels, and had anointed them and sanctified themβ (Numbers 7:1). Rabbi Yoshiya says: The measuring vessels for liquid items, e.g., oil, and wine for libations, were anointed and thereby consecrated both on the inside and on the outside. The measuring vessels for dry items, such as the flour for meal offerings, were anointed and consecrated only on the inside, but were not anointed on the outside.
Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ ΦΈΧͺΦΈΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ¨: ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ°ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ€Φ°Χ Φ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ°ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ₯, ΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΦΉΧ Χ Φ΄ΧΦ°Χ©Φ°ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΧΦΌΧ Χ’Φ΄ΧΧ§ΦΈΦΌΧ¨. ΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·Χ’ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΦ²Χ¨Φ΅Χ ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ°Χ§Φ·ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©ΧΧΦΉΧͺ, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧͺΦ΄ΧΧ Χ΄ΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧͺΦ΅ΧΧΦΆΧ ΧͺΦΈΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΌΧΦΌ ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧͺΦ°ΦΌΧ ΧΦΌΧ€ΦΈΧ Χ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ Χ©Φ°ΧΧ Φ΅Χ Χ’ΦΆΧ©Φ°ΧΧ¨ΦΉΧ Φ΄ΧΧ Χ‘ΦΉΧΦΆΧͺ ΧͺΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ₯ ΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧΦΈΧ€ΦΆΧΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ¨Φ΄ΧΧ ΧΦ·ΧΧ³Χ΄. ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΈΧͺΦ·Χ ΧΦ΅Χ Χ΄ΧΦ·ΧΧ³Χ΄? ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ©ΦΆΧΧ ΦΆΦΌΧΦ±Χ€ΧΦΌ.
Rabbi Yonatan says: The measuring vessels for liquid items were anointed on the inside and were not anointed on the outside, whereas the measuring vessels for dry items were not anointed at all. Rabbi Yonatan cites a proof for his opinion: You can know that the measuring vessels for dry items were not consecrated at all, because it is taught that these vessels do not consecrate items placed inside them. As it is written: βYou shall bring out of your dwellings two wave-loaves of two tenth-parts of a ephah. They shall be of fine flour; they shall be baked with leaven, for first produce to the Lordβ (Leviticus 23:17). When are they considered consecrated to the Lord? Only after they are baked with leaven. This demonstrates that when the flour is placed into the tenth of an ephah measuring vessel the meal offering is not yet consecrated.
ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΧ Χ§ΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ€Φ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΄Χ? Χ΄ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΉΧͺΦΈΧΧ΄. Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΉΧΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ΄ΧΦΉΧͺΦΈΧΧ΄ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ’ΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ₯, ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ ΦΈΧͺΦΈΧ Χ‘ΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΧΦΉΧ ΧΧΦΌΧ, ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄Χ¦Φ°ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΦ° Χ§Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ’ΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧ¦Φ°ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΦ° Χ§Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ’ΧΦΉΧΦ΅Χ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦ·Χ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ₯.
The Gemara asks: With regard to what principle do Rabbi Yoshiya and Rabbi Yonatan disagree? They disagree with regard to the interpretation of the word βthemβ in the phrase: βAnd sanctified themβ (Numbers 7:1). Both tannaβim agree that the term βthemβ serves to exclude something from the anointing and consecration, but they disagree over what is excluded. Rabbi Yoshiya maintains that βthemβ serves to exclude the consecration of the measuring vessels for dry items on the outside, i.e., only the inside of the vessels is consecrated. And Rabbi Yonatan maintains that the measuring vessels for dry items are non-sacred, i.e., not consecrated at all, and therefore it is not necessary for the verse to exclude them. Where it was necessary for the verse to exclude something, it was with regard to measuring vessels used for liquid items, to teach that they are consecrated only on the inside but not on the outside.
ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΈΧ Χ ΦΈΧΦ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ Χ’Φ²Χ§Φ΄ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΈΧ’Φ΅ΧΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ°Χ¨ΧΦΌ ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦΈΧ¨ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ·Χ ΦΌΧΦΌ? Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ ΦΈΧͺΦΈΧ, ΧΦ΄Χ©ΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧ Χ©ΦΈΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦ·ΦΌΧͺ ΧΦ·Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧΦ΅Χ.
The Gemara asks: Since the dispute between Rabbi Yoshiya and Rabbi Yonatan concerns the halakha of measuring vessels for dry items, let Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan say also, as he did with regard to Rabbi Yosei HaGelili and Rabbi Yoshiya: Rabbi Akiva and one of the students of Rabbi Yishmael both said the same thing, and who is that student? Rabbi Yonatan. The Gemara explains: Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan did not say this due to the fact that their opinions are not the same with regard to measuring vessels used for liquid items: Rabbi Akiva maintains that these vessels are consecrated both on the inside and on the outside, whereas Rabbi Yonatan rules that they are consecrated only on the inside.
ΧΦ²ΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ Χ¨Φ·Χ Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ€ΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΦ΅Χ: ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΧ‘ΦΈΧ, ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ ΧΧΦΌΧ. ΧΦ²ΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ: ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΉΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΦΈΦΌΧ©Χ Χ’Φ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ Χ§Φ·ΧΦ°ΧΦ»ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ.
Rav Pappa said to Abaye: How can it be suggested, according to the opinion that the measuring vessels for dry items were not consecrated, that the shewbread is consecrated only when it is placed on the Table? But before that there is the stage in which the dough is placed into the receptacle [bisa] in which it is kneaded. Since this vessel is used for liquid items, the dough should be consecrated at that point. Abaye said to Rav Pappa: This is referring to a case where he kneaded the dough on top of a flat leather spread [katavliyya], which does not sanctify the dough.
ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΈΧΦ΄Χ, ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ§ΦΈΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧ ΦΈΧͺΦΈΧ: ΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·Χ’ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΦ²Χ¨Φ΅Χ ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΦΈΧΦΌ ΧΦ°Χ§Φ·ΧΦΆΦΌΧ©ΦΆΧΧͺ, ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦΌ: ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·ΧΦ°ΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ’Φ΄Χ©ΦΈΦΌΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΉΧ.
The Gemara asks: If so, with regard to that which Rabbi Yonatan said to Rabbi Yoshiya as proof of his opinion, that you can know that it is so, as it is taught that these vessels do not consecrate items placed inside them, let Rabbi Yoshiya say to him in refutation of his claim: This is referring to a case where he measured the flour for the two loaves in a vessel used for measuring a tenth of an ephah, but it was a vessel that was non-sacred, and it is for this reason that the loaves are not consecrated.
ΧΦΈΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ·Χ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦΈΦΌΧ? ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧΦΈΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΧ‘ΦΈΧ β ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧͺΦ·Χ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΆΧ’Φ±ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΧ‘ΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧΦ·Χ©Χ ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΌ, ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΈΧ©Χ ΧΦ·ΧΦΌ Χ’Φ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ Χ§Φ·ΧΦ°ΧΦ»ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧ β ΧΦ΅ΧΧͺ ΧΦ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦΌ. ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ Χ’Φ΄Χ©ΦΈΦΌΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ, ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ: Χ’Φ²ΧΦ΅ΧΧ Χ’Φ΄Χ©ΦΈΦΌΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΧΦΌ β Χ©ΦΈΧΧΦ΅ΧΧ§ Χ’Φ΄Χ©ΦΈΦΌΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ§ΧΦΉΧΦΆΧ©Χ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ’Φ΄Χ©ΦΈΦΌΧΧ¨ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΧΦΉΧ?!
The Gemara responds: How can these cases be compared? Granted, one can say that the shewbread was kneaded on a leather spread rather than in a receptacle, as the Merciful One does not write in the Torah that one should specifically use a receptacle to knead the shewbread. Therefore, when one kneads the dough of a meal offering on top of a leather spread, we have no problem with it. But in the case of the two loaves whose flour was measured in a vessel used for measuring a tenth of an ephah, since the Merciful One states explicitly to use a vessel of a tenth of an ephah and measure with it, can it be suggested that the one preparing the meal offering should leave aside the consecrated vessel for a tenth of an ephah and measure with a non-sacred vessel for a tenth of an ephah?
ΧͺΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦΌ Χ¨Φ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧ Φ·Χ: ΧΦ΄Χ Φ·ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ’Φ²ΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ·ΧΧ¨ ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧͺ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ·ΧΧ¨ ΧΦΈΧ©ΦΈΧΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ©Φ·ΧΧ¨ Χ§ΧΧΦ°Χ©Φ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ·Χ§Φ³ΦΌΧΦΈΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄Χ§Φ³ΦΌΧΦΈΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧ Χ§Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦΈΧ’ΧΦΉΧΦΆΧ¨, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΉΧͺΦ·Χ¨ Χ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦΌΧΦ΄Χ©Φ°ΦΌΧΧΦΈΧ¨Φ΅Χ ΧΦ°Χ ΦΈΧΧΦΉΧͺ, Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΉΧ ΧͺΦ·Χ’Φ²Χ©ΦΆΧΧ?
Β§ The Sages taught in a baraita: From where is it derived that one who offers up outside the Temple courtyard a portion of the meat of a sin offering, or a portion of the meat of a guilt offering, or a portion of the meat of offerings of the most sacred order, or a portion of the meat of offerings of lesser sanctity, or a portion of the surplus of the omer offering, or a portion of the leftover of the two loaves, i.e., the public offering on Shavuot of two loaves from the new wheat, or the shewbread, or the remainder of meal offerings, that in all these cases he violates a prohibition, although these items are not meant to be sacrificed on the altar?
ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ·Χ¨: Χ΄ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΧ Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ¨ ΧΦ°ΧΧΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ©Χ ΧΦΉΧ ΧͺΦ·Χ§Φ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧ¨ΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄ΧΦΆΦΌΧ ΦΌΧΦΌ ΧΦ΄Χ©ΦΆΦΌΧΧ ΧΦ·ΧΧ³Χ΄, ΧΦΉΦΌΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦΆΦΌΧ ΦΌΧΦΌ ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ©Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΧ ΧΦ²Χ¨Φ΅Χ ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°ΧΦ΄ΧΧ¨ΧΦΌ.
The baraita answers: The verse states: βFor any leaven, and any honey, you shall not burn any of it as an offering made by fire to the Lordβ (Leviticus 2:11). The extra term βof itβ teaches that any item that has already had some part of it burned in the fire on the altar is included in the prohibition: Do not burn, stated in that verse explicitly with regard to honey and leaven.
ΧΦΌΧ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ, ΧΦ΅Χ©Χ ΧΦ΅ΧΦΆΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ©Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΧ? ΧΦ°ΧΦΈΧͺΦ·Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧ: ΧΦΈΧ¦Φ°ΧΧΦΌ Χ©Φ°ΧΧͺΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧ Φ΄ΧΧ Χ©ΦΆΧΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΅ΧΦΆΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ©Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΧ!
The Gemara asks: And with regard to the two loaves and the shewbread, is there some part of them burned in the fire? But isnβt it taught in a baraita: A portion of every offering is sacrificed on the altar, except for the two loaves and the shewbread, as no part of them is burned in the fire?
ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ¨Φ·Χ Χ©Φ΅ΧΧ©ΦΆΧΧͺ: ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΌΧ€ΧΦΉ ΧΦΈΧΦ΄ΧΧ©Φ΄ΦΌΧΧΧ.
Rav Sheshet said: Although no part of the two loaves or the shewbread themselves is burned in the fire, nevertheless, they are included in the prohibition against offering them up to the altar, since they are not viewed as independent entities but rather as parts of larger offerings. The two loaves accompany the sheep sacrificed as burnt offerings on Shavuot, and are permitted for consumption only once those sheep have been burned on the altar. Similarly, the shewbread is permitted for consumption only after the bowls of frankincense that were on the Table with it have been burned on the altar.
ΧΦ΄ΧΧͺΦ°ΦΌΧΦ·Χ¨: ΧΦ·ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ’Φ²ΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦΌΧΦΌΧΦΈΦΌΧ Χ’Φ·Χ ΧΦ·ΦΌΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ©Χ, Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨: ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ, Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΧΦ°Χ’ΦΈΧΦΈΧ¨ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨: Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ¨.
Β§ The Gemara discusses the prohibition against offering up on the altar parts of offerings after their sacrificial portions have already been burned. It was stated: With regard to one who brings up any part of any of the items listed in the baraita onto the ramp leading to the altar, but not to the altar itself, Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan says he is liable and Rabbi Elazar says he is exempt.
Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦΈΧ ΦΈΧ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ ΧΦ·ΧΦΈΦΌΧΧ, ΧΦ°ΦΌΧͺΦ·Χ Φ°ΧΦΈΧ: Χ΄ΧΦ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·Χ΄ β ΧΦ΅ΧΧ ΧΦ΄Χ ΧΦΆΧΦΈΦΌΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·, ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ©Χ ΧΦ΄Χ Φ·ΦΌΧΦ΄Χ? ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΧΦΉΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ΄ΧΦ°ΧΦΆΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ· ΧΦΉΧ ΧΦ·Χ’Φ²ΧΧΦΌ ΧΦ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ¦ΧΦΉΧΧ΄.
The Gemara elaborates. Rabbi YoαΈ₯anan says he is liable, as it is taught in a baraita: After the verse: βAs any leaven and any honey, you shall not burn any of it as an offering made by fire to the Lord,β the next verse states: βAs an offering of first fruits you may bring them to the Lord, but they shall not come up to the altar for a pleasing aromaβ (Leviticus 2:12). I have derived only that this halakha applies to an item that is brought on the altar. From where is it derived that the same applies if it is brought to the ramp of the altar? The verse states: βBut they shall not come up to the altar for a pleasing aroma,β to be accepted, and the ramp is the means to ascend to the altar.
ΧΦ°Χ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦΆΧΦ°Χ’ΦΈΧΦΈΧ¨ ΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ€ΦΈΦΌΧΧΦΌΧ¨, ΧΦ·ΧΧ ΧΦ·Χ’Φ°ΧΦΈΧ? ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦΈΧΦ·Χ¨ Χ§Φ°Χ¨ΦΈΧ: Χ΄Χ©Φ°ΧΧΦΉΧ¨ ΧΦΌΧΦ°ΧΦ·Χ©Χ … Χ§ΧΧ¨Φ°ΧΦ·ΦΌΧ Χ¨Φ΅ΧΧ©Φ΄ΧΧΧͺ ΧͺΦ·ΦΌΧ§Φ°Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧΧΦΌ ΧΦΉΧͺΦΈΧΧ΄.
And what is the reason that Rabbi Elazar says that one who brings up parts to the ramp is exempt? As the verse states: βFor any leaven, and any honey, you shall not burn any of it as an offering made by fire to the Lord. As an offering of first produce you may bring them to the Lord, but they shall not come up to the altar for a pleasing aromaβ (Leviticus 2:11β12).
Χ΄ΧΧΦΉΧͺΦΈΧΧ΄ β ΧΧΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧ¨Φ·ΧΦ΄ΦΌΧ ΧΦ°ΧΦΈ ΧΦΆΦΌΧΦΆΧ©Χ ΧΦ°ΦΌΧΦ΄ΧΦ°ΧΦ΅ΦΌΧΦ·, ΧΦ²ΧΦΈΧ ΧΦ΄ΧΧΦ΅ΦΌΧ ΧΦ·ΧΦ²Χ¨Φ΄ΧΧ ΦΈΧ β ΧΦΈΧ.
The Gemara explains: The term βthemβ indicates that this halakha applies only to those offerings that come from leaven or honey and which are called: βAn offering of first produce.β This category consists of first fruits, which are brought from dates and other sweet fruit and which are called: βThe choicest first fruits of your landβ (Exodus 23:19), and the two loaves, which are leaven and are the first meal offerings brought from the new crop each year. In other words, it is with regard to this category that the verse amplifies for you the halakha that the ramp of the altar is considered like the altar itself. But with regard to other items, e.g., the meat of sin offerings and guilt offerings, the ramp of the altar is not treated like the altar itself.






















