Today's Daf Yomi
November 5, 2021 | א׳ בכסלו תשפ״ב
Masechet Rosh Hashanah is dedicated anonymously in honor of Rabbanit Michelle Farber whose dedication to learning and teaching the daf continues to inspire so many people around the world.
This month's shiurim are dedicated by the Hadran Women of Minneapolis in memory of Monica Howell z"l.
This month's shiurim are also dedicated in memory of Dr. Chaya R. Gorsetman, Chaya bat Esriel V’Naomi z’l during the period of shloshim by her husband, children, and grandchildren.
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This month's learning is sponsored by Sami Groff in honor of Shoshana Keats Jaskoll and Chochmat Nashim.
Rosh Hashanah 27
Hadran Women of Minneapolis is sponsoring the month of Kislev in memory of our Daf Yomi study partner, Monica Howell. Most in our group were connected via our shul, our neighborhood, or just from around town. Monica showed up to our first Siyum pre-Covid and introduced herself to us, she was the only newcomer to our group. Soon after that Siyum the world turned virtual and we never saw Monica in person again, just over the zoom screen. Week after week Monica joined our group. We admired that Monica chose to be part of a group with folks she didn’t know and a topic she was just beginning to learn. Monica’s friend Andrew reached out to let us know that Monica was dying, he shared that even with her camera off, she found comfort in the words and discussion surrounding the Daf. May we all learn to be brave and fearless in our learning and may memories of Monica be for a blessing to all.
Today’s daf is sponsored by Emma Rinberg in loving memory of her mother-in-law Phyllis Rinberg – Fruma Sarah bat Reb Aharon and Mira on the occasion of her 50th yahrzeit which will take place tomorrow. “Phyllis died far too young, at age 45, and I was not privileged to know her. She was a talented teacher, headteacher, and lecturer in education. She was creative – loved gardening and sewing. She would, I am sure, be so proud of her son, my husband, and our family. She would certainly have appreciated the idea of us all learning Daf Yomi together, as education was very important to her. May her memory be blessed.”
Can the mouth of the shofar be covered in gold? How were they able to blow the shofar with the trumpets if one cannot hear two sounds at the same time? Perhaps that is why the shofar blasts are longer than the trumpet blasts. However, if we say that, it implies that one can fulfill one’s obligation by hearing half of the shofar blast. The is questioned by two different sources that seem to indicate otherwise. One can be explained differently, but the second cannot. Therefore the Gemara explains that it must be that one can hear two sounds from different people but not from one person. However, another source is brought that shows that two people reading the targum on the Torah cannot be heard at the same time. This question is rejected because our case (shofar) is more similar to the cases at the end of that source that speaks about many people reading the megilla or reciting Hallel which is permitted, presumably because it is special as it is said on a special occasion and therefore people will make the effort to be able to hear it. The shofar for Rosh Hashana adorned with gold and on fasts with silver – either because gatherings are done with instruments of silver as it says in the Torah or because the Torah did not want us to have to spend too much money so only for the sake of Yom Tov was gold required. The shofar and trumpets blasts were performed only in the Temple. From what verse is this derived? Rav Shmuel bar Yitchak pointed out that our prayers match Rabbi Eliezer’s opinion (that the world was created in Tishrei) as we say “Today is the day the world was created.” Does this match with our Mishna? Although Rav Shisha brings a different version of the discussion. What are the laws regarding a broken shofar? If one blows the shofar in a pit, cistern, or barrel, can one fulfill one’s obligation? If one passed by a place where they were blowing the shofar or reading megilla, one can fulfill one’s obligation only if one has intent. The Gemara brings some braitot that add several other laws about whether one can blow a shofar where different types of changes/fixes were made to it. If one blows the shofar in a pit, the ones inside the pit hear it directly and therefore fulfill their obligation, but anyone standing on the edge of the pit, outside the pit, hear only the echo and not a direct sound and therefore, do not fulfill their obligation.
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ופיו מצופה זהב והתניא ציפהו זהב במקום הנחת פיו פסול שלא במקום הנחת פיו כשר אמר אביי כי תנן נמי מתניתין שלא במקום הנחת פה תנן
§ It was taught in the mishna: And the mouth of the shofar that was used on Rosh HaShana was plated with gold. The Gemara raises a difficulty: But isn’t it taught in a baraita: If a shofar was plated with gold at the place where one puts his mouth, it is unfit for blowing; if it was plated, but not at the place where he puts his mouth, it is fit for blowing? Abaye said: When we learned in the mishna as well, we learned that it referred not to the place where one puts his mouth, but a little above it.
ושתי חצוצרות מן הצדדים ותרי קלי מי משתמעי והתניא זכור ושמור בדיבור אחד נאמרו מה שאין הפה יכולה לדבר ואין האוזן יכולה לשמוע לכך מאריך בשופר
§ It was taught in the mishna: And there were two trumpets, one on each of the two sides of the person sounding the shofar. The Gemara asks: But is it really possible to properly discern two different sounds, that of the shofar and that of the trumpets, at the same time? Isn’t it taught in a baraita: The two versions of the fifth of the Ten Commandments, “Remember the Shabbat day” (Exodus 20:8) and “Keep the Shabbat day” (Deuteronomy 5:12), were spoken by God simultaneously in a single utterance, something that the human mouth cannot speak and the human ear cannot hear? This indicates that it is impossible to take in two sounds at once, and so, due to the sound of the trumpets, it should be impossible to hear the blast of the shofar. The Gemara answers: For this reason they would sound a long blast with the shofar, to make it possible to hear the sound of the shofar on its own.
למימרא דכי שמע סוף תקיעה בלא תחילת תקיעה יצא וממילא תחילת תקיעה בלא סוף תקיעה יצא
The Gemara rejects this answer: Is this to say that if one hears the end of a blast without hearing the beginning of the blast he has fulfilled his obligation? In this case one hears only the end of the shofar blast, since the shofar was initially sounded together with the trumpets. If so, it would follow that if one hears the beginning of the blast without hearing the end of the blast, he has also fulfilled his obligation.
תא שמע תקע בראשונה ומשך בשניה כשתים אין בידו אלא אחת אמאי תיסלק ליה בתרתי פסוקי תקיעתא מהדדי לא פסקינן
This, however, is difficult. Come and hear that which was taught in a mishna: If one blew the initial tekia, a long, continuous shofar blast, of the first tekia-terua-tekia set, and then drew out the final tekia of that set so that it spans the length of two tekiot, it counts as only one tekia and is not considered two tekiot, i.e., the final tekia of the first set, and the initial tekia of the second set. But why is this so? Let it count for him as two tekiot, since as stated above, half a blast is considered a blast. The Gemara explains: If one hears only the beginning or the end of a shofar blast, he has indeed fulfilled his obligation, but nevertheless we do not divide a shofar blast into two.
תא שמע התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות או לתוך הפיטס אם קול שופר שמע יצא ואם קול הברה שמע לא יצא אמאי ליפוק בתחילת תקיעה מקמי דליערבב קלא
The Gemara raises another difficulty: Come and hear that which was taught in a mishna: With regard to one who sounds a shofar into a pit, or into a cistern, or into a large jug [pitas], if he clearly heard the sound of the shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, but if he also heard the sound of an echo, he has not fulfilled his obligation. But why is this so? If half a blast is indeed considered a complete blast, let him fulfill his obligation with the beginning of the blast, before the sound is confused with the echo, since the beginning of the blast was heard clearly.
אלא תרתי קלי מחד גברא לא משתמעי מתרי גברי משתמעי
Rather, we must retreat from the explanation offered above and say as follows: Two sounds coming from one source or person cannot be discerned, and this was the miracle at Sinai in which the people heard both “Remember the Shabbat” (Exodus 20:8) and “Keep the Shabbat” (Deuteronomy 5:12) in a single divine utterance. But two sounds from two different sources or people can be properly discerned.
ומתרי גברי מי משתמעי והא תניא בתורה אחד קורא ואחד מתרגם ובלבד שלא יהו שנים קורין ושנים מתרגמין
The Gemara raises another difficulty: But is it really true that two sounds coming from two different people can be properly discerned? Isn’t it taught in a baraita: With regard to the public reading of the Torah, one person may read and one may translate, provided that there are not two people reading and two people translating. Consequently it is clear that two sounds cannot be properly heard, even when they come from two different people.
הא לא דמיא אלא לסיפא בהלל ובמגילה אפילו עשרה קורין אלמא כיון דחביב יהיב דעתיה הכא נמי כיון דחביב יהיב דעתיה ושמע
The Gemara answers: This is not difficult, since our case is only similar to the case mentioned in the latter clause of that baraita, which reads: With regard to the reading of hallel and the Scroll of Esther, even ten people may read simultaneously. Apparently, since these readings are dear to their listeners, they direct their attention to them, listen attentively, and distinguish between the different readers. Here too, since the sounding of the shofar is dear to the listener, he directs his attention to the matter and discerns between the two sounds.
אלא למה מאריך בשופר לידע שמצות היום בשופר
The Gemara asks: But if it is indeed possible to discern the sound of the shofar even when it is sounded simultaneously with the trumpets, why does he sound a long blast with the shofar? The Gemara answers: This is so people should know that the mitzva of the day is specifically with the shofar.
ובתעניות בשל זכרים כפופין ופיו מצופה כסף מאי שנא התם דזהב ומאי שנא הכא דכסף איבעית אימא כל כינופיא דכסף הוא דכתיב עשה לך שתי חצוצרות כסף ואיבעית אימא התורה חסה על ממונן של ישראל
§ It was taught in the mishna: The shofarot that were used on public fast days were made from the curved horns of rams, and their mouths were plated with silver. The Gemara asks: What is different there that the shofar of Rosh HaShana is plated with gold, and what is different here that the shofarot of fast days are plated with silver? The Gemara answers: If you wish, you can say: Any shofar made for the purpose of gathering people together is made of silver, as it is written: “Make for yourself two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shall you make them, and you shall use them for calling the assembly and for the journeying of the camps” (Numbers 10:2). And if you wish, you can say: The Torah spared the money of the Jewish people and therefore allows these shofarot to be made of silver, which is less costly than gold.
התם נמי נעביד דכסף אפילו הכי כבוד יום טוב עדיף
The Gemara asks: If so, there too, the shofar of Rosh HaShana should be made with silver plating. The Gemara answers: Even so, the duty of honoring the Festival is given priority, so that it is proper to beautify the shofar of Rosh HaShana. On a fast day, however, since it is not a Festival, there is no need to use gold, and silver is sufficient.
רב פפא בר שמואל סבר למיעבד עובדא כמתניתין אמר ליה רבא לא אמרו אלא במקדש תניא נמי הכי במה דברים אמורים במקדש אבל בגבולין מקום שיש חצוצרות אין שופר מקום שיש שופר אין חצוצרות
It is related that Rav Pappa bar Shmuel thought to act in accordance with the mishna regarding all the details of the shofar and the trumpets. But Rava said to him: They said this only with regard to the Temple. This is also taught in a baraita: In what case is this statement said? Only in the Temple, but in the provinces, anywhere outside the Temple, the halakha is as follows: Wherever there are trumpets, e.g., on fast days, there is no shofar, and wherever there is a shofar, e.g., on Rosh HaShana, there are no trumpets.
וכן הנהיג רבי חלפתא בציפורי ורבי חנניא בן תרדיון בסיכני וכשבא דבר אצל חכמים אמרו לא היו נוהגין כן אלא בשערי מזרח ובהר הבית בלבד
And similarly, Rabbi Ḥalafta established the custom in Tzippori as it is described in the mishna, and so did Rabbi Ḥananya ben Teradyon in Sikhni, and when the matter came before the Rabbis they said: They acted in this manner only at the east gates of the Temple and on the Temple Mount.
אמר רבא ואיתימא רבי יהושע בן לוי מאי קראה דכתיב בחצוצרות וקול שופר הריעו לפני המלך ה׳ לפני המלך ה׳ הוא דבעינן חצוצרות וקול שופר אבל בעלמא לא
Rava said, and some say it was Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi that said: What is the verse from which this is derived? As it is written: “With trumpets and the sound of a shofar make joyful noise before the Lord, the King” (Psalms 98:6), from which it may be inferred: Only before the Lord, the King, i.e., in His Temple, do we need both trumpets and the sound of a shofar, but in general, outside the Temple, we do not need both.
שוה היובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות וכו׳ אמר רב שמואל בר יצחק כמאן מצלינן האידנא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון כמאן כרבי אליעזר דאמר בתשרי נברא העולם
§ It was taught in the mishna: Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer. Rav Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: In accordance with whose opinion do we pray today on Rosh HaShana, saying: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day? In accordance with whom? In accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, who said: The world was created in the month of Tishrei. We therefore mention on Rosh HaShana that it is the first day.
מתיב רב עינא שוה יובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות והא איכא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון דבראש השנה איתא וביובל ליתא כי קתני אשארא
Rav Eina raised an objection: It was taught in the mishna: Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer. But there are the words: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day, which can be recited on Rosh HaShana but cannot be recited on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year, which is neither: The beginning of Your works, nor: A commemoration of the first day. If so, how can one recite the same blessing on both occasions? The Gemara answers: When the mishna was taught, saying that the blessings of the Jubilee and Rosh HaShana are the same, it was taught with regard to the other parts of the blessings, but the line beginning: This day, is indeed omitted on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year.
רב שישא בריה דרב אידי מתני הכי אמר רב שמואל בר יצחק הא דתנן שוה היובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות כמאן דלא כרבי אליעזר דאי רבי אליעזר כיון דאמר בתשרי נברא העולם הא איכא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון דבראש השנה איתא וביובל ליתא כי קתני אשארא
Rav Sheisha, son of Rav Idi, taught the previous passage as follows: Rav Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: That which we learn in the mishna, Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer; in accordance with whom was it taught? Apparently it was not taught in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, as if it reflects the view of Rabbi Eliezer, there is a difficulty. Since he said that the world was created in Tishrei, then there are also the words: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day, which can be recited on Rosh HaShana, but cannot be recited on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year. If so, how can one recite the same blessing on both occasions? The Gemara rejects this argument: When the mishna was taught, it was taught with regard to the other parts of the blessings, but this line is indeed omitted on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year.
מתני׳ שופר שנסדק ודבקו פסול דיבק שברי שופרות פסול
MISHNA: A shofar that was cracked and then glued together, even though it appears to be whole, is unfit. Similarly, if one glued together broken fragments of shofarot to form a complete shofar, the shofar is unfit.
ניקב וסתמו אם מעכב את התקיעה פסול ואם לאו כשר התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות או לתוך הפיטס אם קול שופר שמע יצא ואם קול הברה שמע לא יצא
If the shofar was punctured and the puncture was sealed, if it impedes the blowing, the shofar is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If one sounds a shofar into a pit, or into a cistern, or into a large jug, if he clearly heard the sound of the shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation; but if he heard the sound of an echo, he has not fulfilled his obligation.
וכן מי שהיה עובר אחורי בית הכנסת או שהיה ביתו סמוך לבית הכנסת ושמע קול שופר או קול מגילה אם כוון לבו יצא ואם לאו לא יצא אף על פי שזה שמע וזה שמע זה כוון לבו וזה לא כוון לבו
And similarly, if one was passing behind a synagogue,or his house was adjacent to the synagogue, and he heard the sound of the shofar or the sound of the Scroll of Esther being read, if he focused his heart, i.e. his intent, to fulfill his obligation, he has fulfilled his obligation; but if not, he has not fulfilled his obligation. It is therefore possible for two people to hear the shofar blasts, but only one of them fulfills his obligation. Even though this one heard and also the other one heard, nevertheless, this one focused his heart to fulfill his obligation and has therefore indeed fulfilled it, but the other one did not focus his heart, and so he has not fulfilled his obligation.
גמ׳ תנו רבנן ארוך וקצרו כשר גרדו והעמידו על גלדו כשר ציפהו זהב במקום הנחת פה פסול שלא במקום הנחת פה כשר ציפהו זהב מבפנים פסול מבחוץ אם נשתנה קולו מכמות שהיה פסול ואם לאו כשר
GEMARA: The Sages taught in a baraita: If a shofar was long and it was shortened, it is still fit. If it was scraped out, so that only its outer layer remains, it is also fit. If the shofar was plated with gold at the place where one puts his mouth, it is unfit; if it was plated not at the place where he puts his mouth, it is fit. If it was plated with gold on the inside, it is unfit, as one does not hear the sound of a shofar but the sound of a golden instrument. If, however, it was plated with gold on the outside, the following distinction applies: If its sound changed from what it was before the plating, it is unfit, but if not, the gold plating is mere ornamentation and it is therefore fit.
ניקב וסתמו אם מעכב את התקיעה פסול ואם לאו כשר נתן שופר בתוך שופר אם קול פנימי שמע יצא ואם קול חיצון שמע לא יצא
The baraita continues: If the shofar was punctured and the puncture was sealed, if it impedes the blowing, the shofar is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If one placed one shofar inside another shofar and blew, if he heard the sound of the inner shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, because it is considered one shofar, but if he heard the sound of the outer shofar he has not fulfilled it, as the sound issues from two shofarot at once.
תנו רבנן גרדו בין מבפנים בין מבחוץ כשר גרדו והעמידו על גלדו כשר הניח שופר בתוך שופר אם קול פנימי שמע יצא ואם קול חיצון שמע לא יצא הפכו ותקע בו לא יצא
The Sages taught in a different baraita: If a shofar was scraped down, whether on the inside or on the outside, it is fit. Even if it was scraped out to the point that only its outer layer remains, it is still fit. If one placed one shofar inside another shofar and blew, if he heard the sound of the inner shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, but if he heard the sound of the outer shofar, he has not fulfilled his obligation. If he inverted the shofar and blew it, he has not fulfilled his obligation.
אמר רב פפא לא תימא דהפכיה ככתונא אלא שהרחיב את הקצר וקיצר את הרחב מאי טעמא כדרב מתנה דאמר רב מתנה והעברת דרך העברתו בעינן
Rav Pappa said: Do not say that this means that he softened the shofar and turned it inside out like a tunic. Rather, the meaning is that he widened the narrow end of the shofar and narrowed its wide end. What is the reason that this is unfit? It is according to the opinion of Rav Mattana, as Rav Mattana said that the verse states: “You shall proclaim [veha’avarta] with the shofar” (Leviticus 25:9), where the word veha’avarta literally means carry, thereby teaching that we need the shofar to be sounded the same way that it was carried on the head of the animal, and if a change was made, it is unfit.
דיבק שברי שופרות פסול תנו רבנן הוסיף עליו כל שהוא בין במינו בין שלא במינו פסול ניקב וסתמו בין במינו בין שלא במינו פסול רבי נתן אומר במינו כשר שלא במינו פסול
§ It was taught in the mishna: If one glued together broken fragments of shofarot to form a complete shofar, the shofar is unfit. The Sages taught in a baraita: If anything was added to a shofar, whether of the same substance, i.e., horn, or of a foreign substance, the shofar is unfit. If the shofar was punctured and sealed, whether with the same substance or with a foreign substance, it is unfit. Rabbi Natan says: If it was sealed with the same substance, it is fit; with a foreign substance, it is unfit.
במינו כשר אמר רבי יוחנן והוא שנשתייר רובו מכלל דשלא במינו אף על פי שנשתייר רובו פסול
The baraita stated: If it was sealed with the same substance, it is fit. Concerning this Rabbi Yoḥanan said: This applies only where most of the original shofar is intact and only a small patch was added. The Gemara concludes: By inference, if it was sealed with a foreign substance, then even if most of the original shofar is intact, it is unfit.
איכא דמתני לה אסיפא שלא במינו פסול אמר רבי יוחנן והוא שנפחת רובו מכלל דבמינו אף על פי שנפחת רובו כשר
Some teach this ruling with regard to the last clause of the baraita, in which it was taught: If it was sealed with a foreign substance, it is unfit. Concerning this Rabbi Yoḥanan said: This is only where most of the original shofar was missing, so that the patch constitutes the majority. The Gemara concludes: By inference, if it was sealed with the same substance, then even if most of the original shofar was missing, it is still fit.
ציפהו זהב מבפנים פסול מבחוץ אם נשתנה קולו מכמות שהיה פסול ואם לאו כשר נסדק לאורכו פסול לרוחבו אם נשתייר בו שיעור תקיעה כשר ואם לאו פסול
The baraita continues: If the shofar was plated with gold on the inside, it is unfit. If, however, it was plated on the outside, and if its sound changed from what it was before the plating, it is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If the shofar was cracked lengthwise, it is unfit. But if it was cracked along its width, the following distinction applies: If, of the portion above the crack there remains a measure sufficient to sound a blast, it is fit, but if not, it is unfit.
וכמה שיעור תקיעה פירש רבי שמעון בן גמליאל כדי שיאחזנו בידו ויראה לכאן ולכאן היה קולו דק או עבה או צרור כשר שכל הקולות כשירין [בשופר]
And how much is a measure sufficient to sound a blast? Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel explained: Enough that when he holds it in his hand, it can be seen protruding on one side of his hand and on the other side. If the sound of the shofar is high or deep or dry, it is fit for blowing, as the Torah does not require a particular sound, and all sounds coming from a shofar are fit.
שלחו ליה לאבוה דשמואל קדחו ותקע בו יצא פשיטא כולהו נמי מיקדח קדחו להו
It is related that the following ruling was sent from Eretz Yisrael to Shmuel’s father: If one drilled out the inside of a horn and blew it, he has fulfilled his obligation. The Gemara asks: It is obvious, for all shofarot are drilled, since after the horn is removed from the animal, the bone that fills the horn and connects it to the animal’s head must be removed. What, then, does this ruling teach us?
אמר רב אשי שקדחו בזכרותו מהו דתימא מין במינו חוצץ קא משמע לן
Rav Ashi said: Here we are discussing a case where he drilled the bone that fills the horn instead of removing it in the usual manner. Lest you say that even something made of the same substance interposes, and the sound that is produced is emitted from the bone and not from the shofar, the ruling therefore teaches us that since the bone and the horn are considered to be of the same substance, the shofar is fit and he has fulfilled his obligation.
התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות כו׳ אמר רב הונא לא שנו אלא לאותן העומדים על שפת הבור אבל אותן העומדין בבור יצאו
§ It was taught in the mishna: If one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has not fulfilled his obligation. Rav Huna said: They taught this only with respect to those standing at the edge of the pit, i.e., on the outside, as they can hear only the echo coming from the pit. But those standing in the pit itself have fulfilled their obligation, since they initially hear the sound of the shofar.
תניא נמי הכי התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות יצא והתנן לא יצא אלא לאו שמע מינה כדרב הונא שמע מינה
This is also taught in a baraita: If one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has fulfilled his obligation. But didn’t we learn in the mishna that in that case he has not fulfilled his obligation? Rather, isn’t it correct to conclude from here that the contradiction must be reconciled in accordance with Rav Huna? The Gemara concludes: Indeed, learn from here that this is so.
איכא דרמי להו מירמא תנן התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות לא יצא והתניא יצא אמר רב הונא לא קשיא כאן לאותן העומדין על שפת הבור כאן לאותן העומדין בבור
Some had a different version of the previous passage. There are those who raise the following source as a contradiction: We learned in the mishna that if one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has not fulfilled his obligation. But isn’t it taught in a baraita that in that case he has fulfilled his obligation? Rav Huna said: This is not difficult; here, in the mishna, we are dealing with those standing at the edge of the pit, whereas there, in the baraita we are dealing with those standing in the pit.
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Rosh Hashanah 27
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ופיו מצופה זהב והתניא ציפהו זהב במקום הנחת פיו פסול שלא במקום הנחת פיו כשר אמר אביי כי תנן נמי מתניתין שלא במקום הנחת פה תנן
§ It was taught in the mishna: And the mouth of the shofar that was used on Rosh HaShana was plated with gold. The Gemara raises a difficulty: But isn’t it taught in a baraita: If a shofar was plated with gold at the place where one puts his mouth, it is unfit for blowing; if it was plated, but not at the place where he puts his mouth, it is fit for blowing? Abaye said: When we learned in the mishna as well, we learned that it referred not to the place where one puts his mouth, but a little above it.
ושתי חצוצרות מן הצדדים ותרי קלי מי משתמעי והתניא זכור ושמור בדיבור אחד נאמרו מה שאין הפה יכולה לדבר ואין האוזן יכולה לשמוע לכך מאריך בשופר
§ It was taught in the mishna: And there were two trumpets, one on each of the two sides of the person sounding the shofar. The Gemara asks: But is it really possible to properly discern two different sounds, that of the shofar and that of the trumpets, at the same time? Isn’t it taught in a baraita: The two versions of the fifth of the Ten Commandments, “Remember the Shabbat day” (Exodus 20:8) and “Keep the Shabbat day” (Deuteronomy 5:12), were spoken by God simultaneously in a single utterance, something that the human mouth cannot speak and the human ear cannot hear? This indicates that it is impossible to take in two sounds at once, and so, due to the sound of the trumpets, it should be impossible to hear the blast of the shofar. The Gemara answers: For this reason they would sound a long blast with the shofar, to make it possible to hear the sound of the shofar on its own.
למימרא דכי שמע סוף תקיעה בלא תחילת תקיעה יצא וממילא תחילת תקיעה בלא סוף תקיעה יצא
The Gemara rejects this answer: Is this to say that if one hears the end of a blast without hearing the beginning of the blast he has fulfilled his obligation? In this case one hears only the end of the shofar blast, since the shofar was initially sounded together with the trumpets. If so, it would follow that if one hears the beginning of the blast without hearing the end of the blast, he has also fulfilled his obligation.
תא שמע תקע בראשונה ומשך בשניה כשתים אין בידו אלא אחת אמאי תיסלק ליה בתרתי פסוקי תקיעתא מהדדי לא פסקינן
This, however, is difficult. Come and hear that which was taught in a mishna: If one blew the initial tekia, a long, continuous shofar blast, of the first tekia-terua-tekia set, and then drew out the final tekia of that set so that it spans the length of two tekiot, it counts as only one tekia and is not considered two tekiot, i.e., the final tekia of the first set, and the initial tekia of the second set. But why is this so? Let it count for him as two tekiot, since as stated above, half a blast is considered a blast. The Gemara explains: If one hears only the beginning or the end of a shofar blast, he has indeed fulfilled his obligation, but nevertheless we do not divide a shofar blast into two.
תא שמע התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות או לתוך הפיטס אם קול שופר שמע יצא ואם קול הברה שמע לא יצא אמאי ליפוק בתחילת תקיעה מקמי דליערבב קלא
The Gemara raises another difficulty: Come and hear that which was taught in a mishna: With regard to one who sounds a shofar into a pit, or into a cistern, or into a large jug [pitas], if he clearly heard the sound of the shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, but if he also heard the sound of an echo, he has not fulfilled his obligation. But why is this so? If half a blast is indeed considered a complete blast, let him fulfill his obligation with the beginning of the blast, before the sound is confused with the echo, since the beginning of the blast was heard clearly.
אלא תרתי קלי מחד גברא לא משתמעי מתרי גברי משתמעי
Rather, we must retreat from the explanation offered above and say as follows: Two sounds coming from one source or person cannot be discerned, and this was the miracle at Sinai in which the people heard both “Remember the Shabbat” (Exodus 20:8) and “Keep the Shabbat” (Deuteronomy 5:12) in a single divine utterance. But two sounds from two different sources or people can be properly discerned.
ומתרי גברי מי משתמעי והא תניא בתורה אחד קורא ואחד מתרגם ובלבד שלא יהו שנים קורין ושנים מתרגמין
The Gemara raises another difficulty: But is it really true that two sounds coming from two different people can be properly discerned? Isn’t it taught in a baraita: With regard to the public reading of the Torah, one person may read and one may translate, provided that there are not two people reading and two people translating. Consequently it is clear that two sounds cannot be properly heard, even when they come from two different people.
הא לא דמיא אלא לסיפא בהלל ובמגילה אפילו עשרה קורין אלמא כיון דחביב יהיב דעתיה הכא נמי כיון דחביב יהיב דעתיה ושמע
The Gemara answers: This is not difficult, since our case is only similar to the case mentioned in the latter clause of that baraita, which reads: With regard to the reading of hallel and the Scroll of Esther, even ten people may read simultaneously. Apparently, since these readings are dear to their listeners, they direct their attention to them, listen attentively, and distinguish between the different readers. Here too, since the sounding of the shofar is dear to the listener, he directs his attention to the matter and discerns between the two sounds.
אלא למה מאריך בשופר לידע שמצות היום בשופר
The Gemara asks: But if it is indeed possible to discern the sound of the shofar even when it is sounded simultaneously with the trumpets, why does he sound a long blast with the shofar? The Gemara answers: This is so people should know that the mitzva of the day is specifically with the shofar.
ובתעניות בשל זכרים כפופין ופיו מצופה כסף מאי שנא התם דזהב ומאי שנא הכא דכסף איבעית אימא כל כינופיא דכסף הוא דכתיב עשה לך שתי חצוצרות כסף ואיבעית אימא התורה חסה על ממונן של ישראל
§ It was taught in the mishna: The shofarot that were used on public fast days were made from the curved horns of rams, and their mouths were plated with silver. The Gemara asks: What is different there that the shofar of Rosh HaShana is plated with gold, and what is different here that the shofarot of fast days are plated with silver? The Gemara answers: If you wish, you can say: Any shofar made for the purpose of gathering people together is made of silver, as it is written: “Make for yourself two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shall you make them, and you shall use them for calling the assembly and for the journeying of the camps” (Numbers 10:2). And if you wish, you can say: The Torah spared the money of the Jewish people and therefore allows these shofarot to be made of silver, which is less costly than gold.
התם נמי נעביד דכסף אפילו הכי כבוד יום טוב עדיף
The Gemara asks: If so, there too, the shofar of Rosh HaShana should be made with silver plating. The Gemara answers: Even so, the duty of honoring the Festival is given priority, so that it is proper to beautify the shofar of Rosh HaShana. On a fast day, however, since it is not a Festival, there is no need to use gold, and silver is sufficient.
רב פפא בר שמואל סבר למיעבד עובדא כמתניתין אמר ליה רבא לא אמרו אלא במקדש תניא נמי הכי במה דברים אמורים במקדש אבל בגבולין מקום שיש חצוצרות אין שופר מקום שיש שופר אין חצוצרות
It is related that Rav Pappa bar Shmuel thought to act in accordance with the mishna regarding all the details of the shofar and the trumpets. But Rava said to him: They said this only with regard to the Temple. This is also taught in a baraita: In what case is this statement said? Only in the Temple, but in the provinces, anywhere outside the Temple, the halakha is as follows: Wherever there are trumpets, e.g., on fast days, there is no shofar, and wherever there is a shofar, e.g., on Rosh HaShana, there are no trumpets.
וכן הנהיג רבי חלפתא בציפורי ורבי חנניא בן תרדיון בסיכני וכשבא דבר אצל חכמים אמרו לא היו נוהגין כן אלא בשערי מזרח ובהר הבית בלבד
And similarly, Rabbi Ḥalafta established the custom in Tzippori as it is described in the mishna, and so did Rabbi Ḥananya ben Teradyon in Sikhni, and when the matter came before the Rabbis they said: They acted in this manner only at the east gates of the Temple and on the Temple Mount.
אמר רבא ואיתימא רבי יהושע בן לוי מאי קראה דכתיב בחצוצרות וקול שופר הריעו לפני המלך ה׳ לפני המלך ה׳ הוא דבעינן חצוצרות וקול שופר אבל בעלמא לא
Rava said, and some say it was Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi that said: What is the verse from which this is derived? As it is written: “With trumpets and the sound of a shofar make joyful noise before the Lord, the King” (Psalms 98:6), from which it may be inferred: Only before the Lord, the King, i.e., in His Temple, do we need both trumpets and the sound of a shofar, but in general, outside the Temple, we do not need both.
שוה היובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות וכו׳ אמר רב שמואל בר יצחק כמאן מצלינן האידנא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון כמאן כרבי אליעזר דאמר בתשרי נברא העולם
§ It was taught in the mishna: Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer. Rav Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: In accordance with whose opinion do we pray today on Rosh HaShana, saying: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day? In accordance with whom? In accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, who said: The world was created in the month of Tishrei. We therefore mention on Rosh HaShana that it is the first day.
מתיב רב עינא שוה יובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות והא איכא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון דבראש השנה איתא וביובל ליתא כי קתני אשארא
Rav Eina raised an objection: It was taught in the mishna: Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer. But there are the words: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day, which can be recited on Rosh HaShana but cannot be recited on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year, which is neither: The beginning of Your works, nor: A commemoration of the first day. If so, how can one recite the same blessing on both occasions? The Gemara answers: When the mishna was taught, saying that the blessings of the Jubilee and Rosh HaShana are the same, it was taught with regard to the other parts of the blessings, but the line beginning: This day, is indeed omitted on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year.
רב שישא בריה דרב אידי מתני הכי אמר רב שמואל בר יצחק הא דתנן שוה היובל לראש השנה לתקיעה ולברכות כמאן דלא כרבי אליעזר דאי רבי אליעזר כיון דאמר בתשרי נברא העולם הא איכא זה היום תחלת מעשיך זכרון ליום ראשון דבראש השנה איתא וביובל ליתא כי קתני אשארא
Rav Sheisha, son of Rav Idi, taught the previous passage as follows: Rav Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: That which we learn in the mishna, Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year is the same as Rosh HaShana with regard to both the shofar blasts that are sounded and the additional blessings that are recited in the Amida prayer; in accordance with whom was it taught? Apparently it was not taught in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, as if it reflects the view of Rabbi Eliezer, there is a difficulty. Since he said that the world was created in Tishrei, then there are also the words: This day is the beginning of Your works, a commemoration of the first day, which can be recited on Rosh HaShana, but cannot be recited on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year. If so, how can one recite the same blessing on both occasions? The Gemara rejects this argument: When the mishna was taught, it was taught with regard to the other parts of the blessings, but this line is indeed omitted on Yom Kippur of the Jubilee Year.
מתני׳ שופר שנסדק ודבקו פסול דיבק שברי שופרות פסול
MISHNA: A shofar that was cracked and then glued together, even though it appears to be whole, is unfit. Similarly, if one glued together broken fragments of shofarot to form a complete shofar, the shofar is unfit.
ניקב וסתמו אם מעכב את התקיעה פסול ואם לאו כשר התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות או לתוך הפיטס אם קול שופר שמע יצא ואם קול הברה שמע לא יצא
If the shofar was punctured and the puncture was sealed, if it impedes the blowing, the shofar is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If one sounds a shofar into a pit, or into a cistern, or into a large jug, if he clearly heard the sound of the shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation; but if he heard the sound of an echo, he has not fulfilled his obligation.
וכן מי שהיה עובר אחורי בית הכנסת או שהיה ביתו סמוך לבית הכנסת ושמע קול שופר או קול מגילה אם כוון לבו יצא ואם לאו לא יצא אף על פי שזה שמע וזה שמע זה כוון לבו וזה לא כוון לבו
And similarly, if one was passing behind a synagogue,or his house was adjacent to the synagogue, and he heard the sound of the shofar or the sound of the Scroll of Esther being read, if he focused his heart, i.e. his intent, to fulfill his obligation, he has fulfilled his obligation; but if not, he has not fulfilled his obligation. It is therefore possible for two people to hear the shofar blasts, but only one of them fulfills his obligation. Even though this one heard and also the other one heard, nevertheless, this one focused his heart to fulfill his obligation and has therefore indeed fulfilled it, but the other one did not focus his heart, and so he has not fulfilled his obligation.
גמ׳ תנו רבנן ארוך וקצרו כשר גרדו והעמידו על גלדו כשר ציפהו זהב במקום הנחת פה פסול שלא במקום הנחת פה כשר ציפהו זהב מבפנים פסול מבחוץ אם נשתנה קולו מכמות שהיה פסול ואם לאו כשר
GEMARA: The Sages taught in a baraita: If a shofar was long and it was shortened, it is still fit. If it was scraped out, so that only its outer layer remains, it is also fit. If the shofar was plated with gold at the place where one puts his mouth, it is unfit; if it was plated not at the place where he puts his mouth, it is fit. If it was plated with gold on the inside, it is unfit, as one does not hear the sound of a shofar but the sound of a golden instrument. If, however, it was plated with gold on the outside, the following distinction applies: If its sound changed from what it was before the plating, it is unfit, but if not, the gold plating is mere ornamentation and it is therefore fit.
ניקב וסתמו אם מעכב את התקיעה פסול ואם לאו כשר נתן שופר בתוך שופר אם קול פנימי שמע יצא ואם קול חיצון שמע לא יצא
The baraita continues: If the shofar was punctured and the puncture was sealed, if it impedes the blowing, the shofar is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If one placed one shofar inside another shofar and blew, if he heard the sound of the inner shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, because it is considered one shofar, but if he heard the sound of the outer shofar he has not fulfilled it, as the sound issues from two shofarot at once.
תנו רבנן גרדו בין מבפנים בין מבחוץ כשר גרדו והעמידו על גלדו כשר הניח שופר בתוך שופר אם קול פנימי שמע יצא ואם קול חיצון שמע לא יצא הפכו ותקע בו לא יצא
The Sages taught in a different baraita: If a shofar was scraped down, whether on the inside or on the outside, it is fit. Even if it was scraped out to the point that only its outer layer remains, it is still fit. If one placed one shofar inside another shofar and blew, if he heard the sound of the inner shofar, he has fulfilled his obligation, but if he heard the sound of the outer shofar, he has not fulfilled his obligation. If he inverted the shofar and blew it, he has not fulfilled his obligation.
אמר רב פפא לא תימא דהפכיה ככתונא אלא שהרחיב את הקצר וקיצר את הרחב מאי טעמא כדרב מתנה דאמר רב מתנה והעברת דרך העברתו בעינן
Rav Pappa said: Do not say that this means that he softened the shofar and turned it inside out like a tunic. Rather, the meaning is that he widened the narrow end of the shofar and narrowed its wide end. What is the reason that this is unfit? It is according to the opinion of Rav Mattana, as Rav Mattana said that the verse states: “You shall proclaim [veha’avarta] with the shofar” (Leviticus 25:9), where the word veha’avarta literally means carry, thereby teaching that we need the shofar to be sounded the same way that it was carried on the head of the animal, and if a change was made, it is unfit.
דיבק שברי שופרות פסול תנו רבנן הוסיף עליו כל שהוא בין במינו בין שלא במינו פסול ניקב וסתמו בין במינו בין שלא במינו פסול רבי נתן אומר במינו כשר שלא במינו פסול
§ It was taught in the mishna: If one glued together broken fragments of shofarot to form a complete shofar, the shofar is unfit. The Sages taught in a baraita: If anything was added to a shofar, whether of the same substance, i.e., horn, or of a foreign substance, the shofar is unfit. If the shofar was punctured and sealed, whether with the same substance or with a foreign substance, it is unfit. Rabbi Natan says: If it was sealed with the same substance, it is fit; with a foreign substance, it is unfit.
במינו כשר אמר רבי יוחנן והוא שנשתייר רובו מכלל דשלא במינו אף על פי שנשתייר רובו פסול
The baraita stated: If it was sealed with the same substance, it is fit. Concerning this Rabbi Yoḥanan said: This applies only where most of the original shofar is intact and only a small patch was added. The Gemara concludes: By inference, if it was sealed with a foreign substance, then even if most of the original shofar is intact, it is unfit.
איכא דמתני לה אסיפא שלא במינו פסול אמר רבי יוחנן והוא שנפחת רובו מכלל דבמינו אף על פי שנפחת רובו כשר
Some teach this ruling with regard to the last clause of the baraita, in which it was taught: If it was sealed with a foreign substance, it is unfit. Concerning this Rabbi Yoḥanan said: This is only where most of the original shofar was missing, so that the patch constitutes the majority. The Gemara concludes: By inference, if it was sealed with the same substance, then even if most of the original shofar was missing, it is still fit.
ציפהו זהב מבפנים פסול מבחוץ אם נשתנה קולו מכמות שהיה פסול ואם לאו כשר נסדק לאורכו פסול לרוחבו אם נשתייר בו שיעור תקיעה כשר ואם לאו פסול
The baraita continues: If the shofar was plated with gold on the inside, it is unfit. If, however, it was plated on the outside, and if its sound changed from what it was before the plating, it is unfit, but if not, it is fit. If the shofar was cracked lengthwise, it is unfit. But if it was cracked along its width, the following distinction applies: If, of the portion above the crack there remains a measure sufficient to sound a blast, it is fit, but if not, it is unfit.
וכמה שיעור תקיעה פירש רבי שמעון בן גמליאל כדי שיאחזנו בידו ויראה לכאן ולכאן היה קולו דק או עבה או צרור כשר שכל הקולות כשירין [בשופר]
And how much is a measure sufficient to sound a blast? Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel explained: Enough that when he holds it in his hand, it can be seen protruding on one side of his hand and on the other side. If the sound of the shofar is high or deep or dry, it is fit for blowing, as the Torah does not require a particular sound, and all sounds coming from a shofar are fit.
שלחו ליה לאבוה דשמואל קדחו ותקע בו יצא פשיטא כולהו נמי מיקדח קדחו להו
It is related that the following ruling was sent from Eretz Yisrael to Shmuel’s father: If one drilled out the inside of a horn and blew it, he has fulfilled his obligation. The Gemara asks: It is obvious, for all shofarot are drilled, since after the horn is removed from the animal, the bone that fills the horn and connects it to the animal’s head must be removed. What, then, does this ruling teach us?
אמר רב אשי שקדחו בזכרותו מהו דתימא מין במינו חוצץ קא משמע לן
Rav Ashi said: Here we are discussing a case where he drilled the bone that fills the horn instead of removing it in the usual manner. Lest you say that even something made of the same substance interposes, and the sound that is produced is emitted from the bone and not from the shofar, the ruling therefore teaches us that since the bone and the horn are considered to be of the same substance, the shofar is fit and he has fulfilled his obligation.
התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות כו׳ אמר רב הונא לא שנו אלא לאותן העומדים על שפת הבור אבל אותן העומדין בבור יצאו
§ It was taught in the mishna: If one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has not fulfilled his obligation. Rav Huna said: They taught this only with respect to those standing at the edge of the pit, i.e., on the outside, as they can hear only the echo coming from the pit. But those standing in the pit itself have fulfilled their obligation, since they initially hear the sound of the shofar.
תניא נמי הכי התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות יצא והתנן לא יצא אלא לאו שמע מינה כדרב הונא שמע מינה
This is also taught in a baraita: If one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has fulfilled his obligation. But didn’t we learn in the mishna that in that case he has not fulfilled his obligation? Rather, isn’t it correct to conclude from here that the contradiction must be reconciled in accordance with Rav Huna? The Gemara concludes: Indeed, learn from here that this is so.
איכא דרמי להו מירמא תנן התוקע לתוך הבור או לתוך הדות לא יצא והתניא יצא אמר רב הונא לא קשיא כאן לאותן העומדין על שפת הבור כאן לאותן העומדין בבור
Some had a different version of the previous passage. There are those who raise the following source as a contradiction: We learned in the mishna that if one sounds a shofar into a pit or into a cistern, he has not fulfilled his obligation. But isn’t it taught in a baraita that in that case he has fulfilled his obligation? Rav Huna said: This is not difficult; here, in the mishna, we are dealing with those standing at the edge of the pit, whereas there, in the baraita we are dealing with those standing in the pit.
אמר רבה
Rabba said:
